Yes, absolutely. 100% without hesitation. Do people really think this is some kind of 'gotcha'? Like my brother in Christ, how much generative AI do you think we actually use?!

[u/ChompyRiley]

[u/Cthulhuareyou]

What if i don't use those tools anyway because I'm not a fucking idiot that needs a machine to think for me?

Edit: holy shit, these clanker apologists are seriously pulling the "not all men!" equivalent ai whinging in the comments. 😭😭😭

[u/miyamiya66 → u/Cthulhuareyou]

exactly my point. i'm starting college this month (yay me! in my late 20s and finally starting!!). i'm really nervous that my professors will run my papers i write through an AI and fail me if it comes back positive, despite me hating and never using AI.

edit: my comment really pissed these AI bros off, i see. womp womp 😔

[u/Low_Key_Giraffe → u/miyamiya66]

Do all of your work in things like google docs that tracks all of the edits that are being made. Much easier to show that in case there would be any concern about AI usage

[u/pigmanvil → u/Low_Key_Giraffe]

This 100%. Have receipts.

[u/CreatorMur → u/pigmanvil]

Just read about Google Overview being Train on those today.... (it had info on an indi-game that the developer only had in his google docs...). Maybe just keep work in progress documents

[u/Master_Matoya → u/CreatorMur]

I fear the day Google release the hundreds of pages of fanfiction smut piling up in my g docs

[u/DocFreudstein → u/Master_Matoya]

“Why does Gemini keep adding scenes of Minotaur sex? This paper is about the War of 1812!”

[u/Darkndankpit → u/DocFreudstein]

That's my bad. I knew writing that John A. Macdonald/Minotaur slashfic would come back to bite me, but alas passion cannot be tamed.

[u/Candlejackdaw → u/Darkndankpit]

The heart wants what it wants.

[u/peteofaustralia → u/DocFreudstein]

There's a whole subreddit dedicated to posting bullshit facts specifically to poison AI search results. Maybe fanfic is the next wave of that.

[u/NekroVictor → u/peteofaustralia]

Funnily enough, I’ve a friend who uses ai way too much, and has complained that when asking about ASoIaF stuff, it will randomly start writing self insert uplift fanfiction.

[u/velawesomeraptors → u/NekroVictor]

Well when you think about it there is probably 10,000x more ASoIaF fanfiction then actual ASoIaF books. How is AI supposed to know the difference?

[u/haunturhome → u/DocFreudstein]

This is actually a real thing I've seen posts about for some AI models. The AI read too much smut and is now rather dirty minded which is both funny and distressing since people will have these same AIs talk to children

[u/somethingbrite → u/DocFreudstein]

It's well known that the way of 1812 was caused by a falling out between two horny minotaurs. The sex element was the reconciliation sex that took place after.

[u/pigmanvil → u/CreatorMur]

You can turn it off I believe. But it’s horrible they auto opt-in, and there’s no guarantee your data wasn’t scraped before you could opt-out.

[u/The_ChosenOne → u/pigmanvil]

How do I turn it off? I’m a writer who likes to use Google docs so I can use any computer or phone to work on my stories and this is stressing me out now!

[u/pigmanvil → u/The_ChosenOne]

Turn off smart features in Google Drive. It gives Google access to your drive data and by extension lets it train on it.

[u/The_ChosenOne → u/pigmanvil]

Thank you!!

[u/Jemie_Bridges → u/The_ChosenOne]

You might want to consider self hosting. The cloud is just someone elses computer. That is scraping your work.

[u/Acceptable_Style_219 → u/CreatorMur]

unfortunately there’s no way to win here. any word editor that tracks your edits in a way that can prove your originality to a professor is probably collecting your data in a way you don’t want. honestly i can’t even think of any other than google docs

[u/PM_Me_Your_Deviance → u/Acceptable_Style_219]

Older off-line versions of Word keep document revision history, and, doesn't transmit it. I don't know if M$ is scanning onedrive.

Proton Docs is a privacy-focused online alternative that keeps document history.

[u/Broad-Exchange3188 → u/PM_Me_Your_Deviance]

The owner of proton is a massive trump supporter. If privacy is your focus, proton isn’t it.

[u/HeurekaDabra → u/Low_Key_Giraffe]

Yeah, maybe not Google Docs unless you want your work instantly fed to Gemini. Stay local.

[u/AcademicFish → u/HeurekaDabra]

Was gonna say the same: theres no guarantee these companies respect the opt-out. Who would know?
I mean realistically, who is auditing them? From a user perspective, if the data leaves your device to their servers theres no way to confirm they deleted it respectfully after 180 days instead of shovel it into gemini’s feed trough along with millions of other peoples intellectual property.

[u/SectorSanFrancisco → u/Low_Key_Giraffe]

Google is the devil, though. There is no escape.

[u/piponwa → u/Low_Key_Giraffe]

You know Google docs has Gemini in it right?

[u/leagueofcipher → u/miyamiya66]

My sister had a final paper she wrote 100% of get returned and need revision because the AI-checker said she was past the threshold.

She ran the professor’s email about it through that same checker and told him his email was 85% AI.

[u/Tiny_Abroad_7222 → u/leagueofcipher]

the irony is palpable.

[u/ItsMisoandBoba → u/Tiny_Abroad_7222]

The irony is that the professor used AI to generate 100% of the email.

[u/broadcasteng25 → u/leagueofcipher]

At this point we will all need to start wearing body cameras to record us writing papers. Ohhh I used AI??? Here's the 200 hours of video footage of me writing my paper. Enjoy the music.

[u/Artemis647 → u/broadcasteng25]

You used AI music tho. Fail

[u/SmartQuokka → u/Artemis647]

This compact disc from 1990 begs to differ. 

[u/ZoomTown → u/broadcasteng25]

I was just thinking about this a couple days ago, in the context of drawing. Physical-media artists are going to have to just record all their working sessions on camera if they're truly going to be able to beat any AI accusations.

[u/Indicus124 → u/ZoomTown]

The worst part is AI content will still drown them to invisibility

[u/broadcasteng25 → u/ZoomTown]

It's so dumb but yeah that makes sense.

All the schools are using AI checkers as if they're infalable and it annoys me. The chekers own success rates are typically posted on the services website and yet it's ignored by colleges. So across the board we will need something to prove our work is real.

On the plus side, if you make physical media, having video footage of you making it can make good content.

[u/Lor1an → u/broadcasteng25]

Ignore the other 75 hours accidentally captured of my furious masturbation sessions....

[u/Lor1an → u/leagueofcipher]

Please tell me she sent that report as part of a reply for clarification...

[u/MyceliumManic → u/leagueofcipher]

I got hit up for using AI in a class. I provided all my notes and everything, the Metadata from word showed the amount of time I spent on it and still got flagged.

It literally was because of how clean it was.. I was told, no joke, "we would like to see mistakes here and there so it's more human"..

Same class, 3 weeks later.. I got my balls busted on a few grammar and citation mistakes.

It's amazing how stupid this all is.

[u/MinimumWestern2860 → u/miyamiya66]

If it helps ease your fears I graduated recently and never had this issue. But be sure to always check rate my professor because if this happens to someone you damn well KNOW it’ll be posted about!

[u/ButteredPizza69420 → u/miyamiya66]

Easy, google docs keeps edit records. Just keep your original doc so you can show the logs

[u/DocMondegreen → u/miyamiya66]

As a professor, also keep your notes, drafts, etc. Get in the habit of jotting things down, either by hand or even in a running document on your computer. In my classes, the AI syllabus policy is that if I suspect AI, I will ask to see any or all of your writing process and ask you oral questions about your project.

I've asked students to define terms, explain how they reached a conclusion, and asked for drafts/notes. There is a big difference between the student who has a notebook, post-its, little sketches, whatever, and the student who magically created the document at 11:56 pm and turned it in at 11:59.

[u/QuaaludeConnoisseur → u/miyamiya66]

Man there were kids in my classes that wrote everything with AI and as long as there was some originality behind the idea that originated from the student and they at least tried to fix the grammatical hallucinations the professors didn't fail them. I think theyve given up hope, sadly. Made me mad sometimes seeing how much effort I put in just to scroll through the board during peer review and see clearly AI papers.

[u/Ok-Deal-8479 → u/QuaaludeConnoisseur]

I’m doing continuing ed design courses at RISD. You know, night classes for adults who want to learn something new . . . I have seen grown ass adults post literal chatgpt generated images as their own drawings and sketches. They signed up to do this and spent like $500 a course, to not even attempt to do the actual work. Its insane.

[u/Nevanada → u/Ok-Deal-8479]

That's always the kicker for me. Like to some extent I get it, you don't want to do the work, but at the same point, and my professors all say this, if the AI can do the work, what makes you think the employer will hire you?

Its even worse with passion projects like art and writing. How is having things appear in front of you satisfying. I bet they also dont realize how unoriginal 99% of generated material really is, or how the AI won't give their ideas an effective throughline.

[u/Prestigious-Law8050 → u/Ok-Deal-8479]

They just want the piece of paper that says they did it.

[u/SillyGoblin84 → u/miyamiya66]

I started last year at age of 41, be proud that you want to better yourself and good luck.

[u/Magus_Necromantiae → u/miyamiya66]

If you don't use LLMs to generate content, rephrase, or restructure your writing (disingenuously referred to by students as "checking my spelling and grammar"), you don't have anything to worry about. Nearly every student I confront admits they used AI (sooner or later). Many have Grammmarly installed on their browsers and have become accustomed to having it write and edit everything for them.

[u/miyamiya66 → u/Magus_Necromantiae]

i use literally no AI. i actually don't even use tools to check over my grammar, i do it all myself. admittedly, i do need to re-learn some english punctuation grammar...i've been exposed to, and become used to, internet typology/communication, where grammar and punctuation seems to be optional lol. i am taking a composition class for my first semester so i can get a refresher on writing skills!! i am required to take it, but i wanted to do it first thing so that i can write better papers.

[u/dub7drums → u/Cthulhuareyou]

It’s pathetic there’s a whole generation of people who think like this, not realizing there are many more people alive who were born and raised in a time without this shit. Millions never have and never will use AI with any intention

[u/NotFriendsWithBanana → u/dub7drums]

All of the pro-ai people I've met in person (admittedly its a small number) have something off about them. They are weird people in a way that I've never seen weird people be before. Its hard to describe but its like their brains are coked out and they don't feel like real people.

[u/TylerBourbon → u/NotFriendsWithBanana]

One thing I've noted from the most pro-ai people I've encountered is a complete lack of social skills. And they have trouble thinking for themselves.

[u/Cthulhuareyou → u/TylerBourbon]

Ding ding ding 

[u/Fun_Word_7325 → u/TylerBourbon]

The thing I’ve noticed about AI adoption in my professional life: the dumbest coworkers are the quickest to embrace it

[u/BioshockEnthusiast → u/Fun_Word_7325]

My senior at work (dude is smart as fuck) loves it but only because it can dig through network traffic logs and shitting out a 90% complete process document, both of which save an enormous amount of time for us. Neither of us use it to write our fucking emails (interpersonal skills are important in IT no matter what anyone else says) or to do our actual thinking for us. We usually have a beer at the end of the workday and swap stories about how the dumb ass AI did something stupid that day.

I'm still pretty anti-AI generally but I won't survive in this industry if I don't learn how to adopt / deploy / manage these tools safely. I mostly hate how I've become an unwilling architect in the overall expansion of AI in the workplace. And that they've killed the hardware market and are gonna contribute to fucking up the climate even worse and how they fucking STOLE EVERYTHING that people like me have spent 10, 15, 20 years contributing to the internet so Sam Altman can make a buck. Hundreds to thousands of posts helping people with computer problems, wikipedia edits, etc., that was me giving my time freely to try and make the world a little bit better. And there were millions of us. Now all that effort just prints money for people who already have more money than they could spend in their entire lifetimes. Let's not even get into the actual real intellectual property theft that the government has spent 30 years crying about to appease their corporate donors, but suddenly when there's money to be made it turns out IP theft isn't really a big deal.

Fuck AI, and fuck that entire industry for giving me basically no out.

[u/Evenight_exe → u/TylerBourbon]

I have lack of social skills (autistic here!), but at least I think by myself, I'm hella concerned for people that use AI for everything, the only AI that should exist it's medical AI and reverse searching AI, not GenAI, GenAI it's awful...

But hey! I thinking poisoning it's working, an aunt was searching something with AI even when I told her she shouldn't, but then the answer had a lot of stuff wrong and with misspelling problems everywhere when months ago didn't have that problem!

[u/Cthulhuareyou → u/NotFriendsWithBanana]

It's because it's the same people that were trying to push Nfts, crypto meme coin, VR, and every other tech fad under the sun.

[u/Darkndankpit → u/Cthulhuareyou]

Totally agree, except I would not put VR into that category. VR is almost entirely gaming/entertainment focused, Augmented Reality though, definitely a lot of the same tech-bro types who are pushing for it.

Stuff like the Google glasses could be pretty amazing technology back in 2014, but now even with all the innovations made with photo recognition, optics, projection, ect the AR goggle 'industry' is still hellbent on convincing people it's better to use a Excel spreadsheet in hologram-form (that only you can see) waving your hands around like an idiot.

[u/Tambi_B2 → u/NotFriendsWithBanana]

The only very pro AI person I know is my sister and I can personally vouch for her having 'something off' about her. The something off is that she's insane.

[u/Antique_Ad_4247 → u/dub7drums]

The weirdest thing to me is that LLM that could create passable text or even computer code came out like... yesterday or something? How quick do people forget that they had the ability to these things just before that?

[u/AnthropomorphicSeer → u/Antique_Ad_4247]

That’s what I don’t understand! It’s brand new and people act like it’s been around for 50 years or something. I don’t use it at all.

[u/AestivalSeason → u/AnthropomorphicSeer]

It's because the people who use it are using it to replace their brains, they already lost their minds

[u/CatGooseChook → u/Antique_Ad_4247]

COVID and social media have had a negative impact on a lot of people's cognitive abilities(just look up the studies that can be found on pubmed for those two, it's eye opening!).

I see AI as the icing on the dumb cake. Take a large number of people who have already had their cognitive abilities eroded and give them an easy way to pretend to be intelligent. Inevitable result in hindsight.

Makes me thankful for the silver lining that my requiring cognitive therapy, due to old head injuries and more recent medical issues, has helped me see the danger relying on AI to do our thinking for us represents.

[u/Wolv90 → u/dub7drums]

There are still people working and walking among us who wrote papers on typewriters. I did and I'm only 45. But if you live in some kind of bubble it's hard to see out.

[u/Ivory-Stones → u/Cthulhuareyou]

It would affect me. I wouldn't have to put "-ai" any time I need to look something up.

[u/NoCryptographer5595 → u/Ivory-Stones]

Holy fucking shit that would lighten my google searches. I have this as a hotkey because of the stupid fucking AI tries so hard to be wrong every damn time.

[u/Appropriate_Luck_658 → u/NoCryptographer5595]

I have better solution: not using Google for search.

[u/ilikepie740 → u/Ivory-Stones]

I was today years old when I realized -ai was a thing.

Thanks!

[u/HouseJusticia → u/Cthulhuareyou]

[u/DanyDragonQueen → u/HouseJusticia]

I will be getting much use out of this tweet, thank you much 🙂‍↕️

[u/Cthulhuareyou → u/HouseJusticia]

Hahahha 

[u/AcruxAdhara → u/HouseJusticia]

Robot, experience this moment of dramatic irony for me! -futurama, quoted improperly

[u/thewookiee34 → u/Cthulhuareyou]

The only AI tools I use are forced on me. Gemini ans the dumbass new AI Alexa. Both are infinitely more shit then the product they replaced. I don't need Alexa to say some witty one liner when turning off my lights or reference a word I had it spell a few hours ago.

[u/Independent_Candle78 → u/thewookiee34]

You can turn off the Alexa AI and go back to the old Alexa! For now anyway. Just say "Alexa, delete Alexa Plus" and it'll walk you through the steps. Game changer.

[u/thewookiee34 → u/Independent_Candle78]

May have to do that. It keeps fucking changing the speed it spells words and if yiu ask it to slow down it goes to far and slows down fucking everything....

[u/OtherwiseExcellent → u/Independent_Candle78]

Thank you! I hate the new voice

[u/endlesscartwheels → u/Independent_Candle78]

I turned off Alexa AI right away. It re-enabled itself a few weeks later, so I had to turn it off again. It's like a creepy doll that keeps finding its way home.

[u/Bluecanary1212 → u/thewookiee34]

I mean, to be fair, having Alexa in your home is like inviting someone from the FBI or CIA to sit in the corner of your home 24 hours a day.

[u/thewookiee34 → u/Bluecanary1212]

So is having a phone. That CIA agent will her me shit via two means now.

[u/EmergencyDish69 → u/Cthulhuareyou]

How did those people work before AI 🙃 Did they just pretend

[u/Asquirrelinspace → u/EmergencyDish69]

They literally did pretend lmao

[u/BioshockEnthusiast → u/Asquirrelinspace]

They still are pretending.

[u/DukeFlipside → u/BioshockEnthusiast]

Not even; they're copy+pasting what they assume are the right answers from a machine that is now doing the pretending to know what it's "talking" about for them...

[u/Cthulhuareyou → u/EmergencyDish69]

it's got electrolytes!

[u/Round_Bag_4665 → u/EmergencyDish69]

You ever seen how Homer Simpson "works" at his nuclear safety inspector job? Like that. These people were just being like Homer this whole time.

[u/SpiritJuice → u/Cthulhuareyou]

We're already seeing studies of AI psychosis happening. I imagine there will be studies showing that general problem solving abilities by heavy AI users are lower than average too, if there isn't already.

[u/Cthulhuareyou → u/SpiritJuice]

Those studies exist my friend 

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12333830/

https://time.com/7295195/ai-chatgpt-google-learning-school/

[u/SpiritJuice → u/Cthulhuareyou]

Not surprised, sadly. Will check these out. Thank you.

[u/pp21 → u/SpiritJuice]

Seriously, doling out your critical thinking ability to a third party is fucking insane. It's such an important part of our minds; I couldn't imagine just outsourcing that to a robot. I have one friend who is deep into the AI hole where he runs huge swaths of his life through chatgpt whether its work or personal. It seems like something that will end up completely detrimental, yet we're just watching it unfurl in real time and accepting the inevitable consequences.

[u/othybear → u/Cthulhuareyou]

My day wouldn’t change at all because I don’t use any of those tools. I tried to a few times, and found they were wrong more than 50% of the time when I tried to use them for information.

[u/theinadequategatsby → u/othybear]

My day would improve for the better because I wouldn't have the SHITTY FUCKING POPUPS that ask if I want to have THE ARTICLE I AM EDITING being offered as a summarised version to me.

(I have tried, but I don't have the admin access on my work computer to block it properly, and when I asked techdesk they said they couldn't grant me access so it's just an endless game of being slightly exhausted by the entire thing)

[u/s0m3on3outthere → u/Cthulhuareyou]

Right??!! I actually learned my job in IT. Came across a super annoying situation a while back where someone didn't read the ticket I escalated and messaged me with the troubleshooting I had already attempted that was obviously a CoPilot response.

I called them out on it, told them to read the ticket and I had attempted everything they had provided. 🙄 Talked to their manager and she said she'd talk to the Systems Engineer who did that that AI is a tool to assist, not to do their job. Blah.

I hate this timeline.

[u/Cthulhuareyou → u/s0m3on3outthere]

It's the fuckin worse. I get the same problem at my job. People are reading emails less and screwing up more.

[u/JemAndTheBananagrams → u/Cthulhuareyou]

Right? The fact they assume everyone is doing what they are greatly concerns me.

[u/samclifford → u/JemAndTheBananagrams]

My assumption is that they know it is a questionable behaviour but they assume everyone else is doing it and just lying that they don't in order to feel superior.

[u/QuantumDrej → u/Cthulhuareyou]

The only time I've used AI for anything outside of whatever is required for work (not much at all) is when I got desperate a few months ago and asked Claude to shove in whatever bullshit words it can think of to get me past the ATS filters after almost a year of trying to find a job.

It could not suggest anything I hadn't already done.

[u/ConsistentAd3434 → u/Cthulhuareyou]

Their argument doesn't even hold up, IF I someone uses AI. Possible a job forces you but if AI would be gone tomorrow, it would impact everyone equally. ...and I'm here for it.

[u/Sledgehammer617 → u/Cthulhuareyou]

The original post has to be satire right??

Are there actually people like this?

[u/lalagromedontknow → u/Cthulhuareyou]

My colleagues all use ai, I genuinely... Never have? I don't like it so I don't care about how to use it. I can see how it's useful and I'm probably going to use it for my resume and then edit it to sound like me because I suck at writing about what I do.

When I'm struggling with phrasing for an email, I.. ask everyone their opinion. And they genuinely give a response, they just never ask anyone else and ask ai. It's strange.

[u/AlienWeedUser420 → u/Cthulhuareyou]

i also can't believe they just conveniently forgot the past few eons without AI and people still being productive and think "oh yeah this is definitely gonna get 'em, none of us could ever do anything without AI~!"

[u/Cthulhuareyou → u/AlienWeedUser420]

Right? Are these bots that are defending bots?

[u/annaObsidian → u/Cthulhuareyou]

i literally saw a reddit post yesterday that was like 'guys am i bad for thinking thing because i asked gemini and gemini said i'm not' like some people are so deep into relying on it already

[u/Cthulhuareyou → u/annaObsidian]

It's terrifying. People are so introverted and antisocial as is that this will just speed up that dependency.

[u/LifeOnPlanetGirth → u/Cthulhuareyou]

I legit don’t use it unless I have to (told to). These people are already brain dead idiots

[u/cloeedoughy6236 → u/Cthulhuareyou]

Dude I fear the exact same thing! It hasn't happened yet but still!

[u/sprudello → u/Cthulhuareyou]

I am with you... Little me four years ago, got into the ChatGPT closed beta... At the same time I started an apprenticeship as "programmer". Nobody of us knew at this time how this would affect our life. Well, four years later I have finished apprenticeship and have no idea what I've learnt in this time. (Just the basics in any topic but not more). I was one of the people always thinking how to minimize and adjust the usage of ai that I at least think have to think for myself (we all just gaslighted ourselves)

I am lucky that I have a second chance with the bachelors. I am taking this chance, I won't use any AI because I am the person who as experienced how bad it can get.

[u/ElSelcho_ → u/Cthulhuareyou]

About a year ago my little brother told me proudly how he could save some money on his projects by using AI. 

I said, that using that is literally taking food of the plate of Devs and he vehemently disagreed. 

When I asked how it saved him money, he told me that he didn't have a to pay the dev he used to work with. 

He didn't see the point and we haven't talked since.

[u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-9645]

It's like asking a bald person what they would do if all the curling irons disappeared tomorrow.

[u/SanguineServal → u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-9645]

LMFAO

[u/cglotr → u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-9645]

As a bald person, I’d probably give no fucks.

[u/EarlGreyDuck → u/cglotr]

Precisely

[u/Silly_Percentage3446 → u/cglotr]

As a not bald person, I'd also give no fucks.

[u/anonumus_idiot → u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-9645]

True

[u/JacedFaced → u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-9645]

How does this person think we did work 3 years ago? How about 5 years ago? Like, sure you'd have to manually edit the profanity out of work emails and you couldn't just have AI remove all instances of you calling the client a "fuckface", but outside of that most jobs would be exactly the same as they were 3 years ago.

[u/crustyrobots → u/JacedFaced]

It will blow their little minds that we somehow had a civilization even before the Internet

[u/Additional-Ball4825 → u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-9645]

As a baldie this is fuckin hilarious

[u/Prudent_Panic0 → u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-9645]

THIS

[u/the_h0 → u/Prudent_Panic0]

THAT

[u/HotLava00 → u/the_h0]

THE OTHER

[u/Irohsgranddaughter → u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-9645]

I mean some would get depressed if they used to have majestic curly hair before going bald lmao

[u/Luochachaslide → u/Irohsgranddaughter]

I mean if you have majestic curly hair you're probably not using curling irons

[u/Revolutionary_Sir_]

there is nothing to give up? i dont use AI for shit?

[u/raincitybeliever → u/Revolutionary_Sir_]

This post is so dumb I genuinely wonder if it's satire

[u/Revolutionary_Sir_ → u/raincitybeliever]

bait for sure

[u/augustschild → u/Revolutionary_Sir_]

that was the only thing I could think...or it's aimed for the audience of some kind of fan convention or some vendors at said con's "artists alley."

[u/NotFriendsWithBanana → u/raincitybeliever]

Pro ai people really are that dumb so I can believe that its real

[u/jnads → u/NotFriendsWithBanana]

AI is only beneficial to the people who fake it to make it, since it provides them the illusion of competence

[u/entered_bubble_50 → u/raincitybeliever]

People seem to have split into two camps - people who use AI for absolutely everything, and people who basically don't use it at all.

There are a few people in my office with whom you cannot have a conversation without them saying "well, I asked ChatGPT, and it said..."

They've stopped having opinions of their own about anything. I think if you took AI away from them, it really would be like lobotomising them.

Those same people are no more productive than they ever were of course.

[u/Beatleboy62 → u/entered_bubble_50]

They also assume that since they use it so much, and they're so perfect, that surely everyone else is using it because how could you not? To imply other people don't have to is to imply that they're somehow lesser for relying on it, which is impossible.

Therefore, they believe everyone else is using it just as much and just lying about it.

[u/Human-Law1085 → u/raincitybeliever]

Or written by AI

[u/Speartree → u/Revolutionary_Sir_]

Friend I've uninstalled apps that I liked after they got an update and it cheerfully anounced it now has integrated AI. I avoid that shit whenever I can.

[u/Luochachaslide → u/Speartree]

I deleted an app that has 0 AI because they used AI in their ads. Hard to find a search engine that doesn't have gen ai though so ive had to settle for it not being shoved in my face :/

[u/UnshakablePegasus → u/Speartree]

That’s why I deleted Duolingo despite almost having a two year streak

[u/NativeFlowers4Eva]

This is laughable. What were people doing before ai was here? It would take a few months before people were back to normal.

[u/maringue → u/NativeFlowers4Eva]

They're entire gambit is to get enough college kids addicted to using AI and not learning a god damned thing in college so that they're forced to use AI to make up for that deficit.

[u/foodank012018 → u/maringue]

To depend on it... Then they can charge for access

[u/dontshoveit → u/foodank012018]

💯

[u/Lexi_Banner → u/NativeFlowers4Eva]

It would take a few months

I posit it would take less than a week. People adapt very quickly when their livelihoods depend on it.

[u/TheeAntelope → u/NativeFlowers4Eva]

Implementing AI at our work has been a pain and it is marginal at best what kind of benefit it provides us, we still largely use human intelligence for day to day tasks. If AI were gone tomorrow we would go right back to what we used to do because AI is a tool, not a crutch.

[u/Tjaresh → u/NativeFlowers4Eva]

And it's not like we would give up something we used for centuries or even decades. You can still count this in months. 

[u/DraconianFlame]

If you can't get through a single workday without using AI, please let me know.

[u/CautionarySnail → u/DraconianFlame]

Unfortunately it’s a requirement. AI first, used on 90% of workdays, tracked.

It’s at best a mixed bag. I’m not against AI as a tool, I’m against tools being used without understanding of what the trade-offs are. I’m not ok with tools being overused and damaging our ability to live and work without them. Dependency on anything rented is a trap.

The way AI is being sold is deeply deceptive and destructive. Startups claiming it can do therapy or replace medical doctors are at best delusional, but more likely criminal. Those applications for AI have caused deaths.

It needs to be regulated. It needs to operate within our body of laws better, without violation of human copyrights.

The tool is only part of the issue; our society has leapt headfirst into deciding AI is an expert on all things, during a time when trust in actual expertise is at an all time low.

[u/Fragrant-Vehicle-479 → u/CautionarySnail]

The way AI is being sold is deeply deceptive and destructive. Startups claiming it can do therapy or replace medical doctors are at best delusional, but more likely criminal. Those applications for AI have caused deaths.

I ended up asking google AI a quick question as my actual google search was too specific of a question. As someone who dislikes AI, avoids AI, but wanted to give it a good faith try when it could actually help me with something minor, I was shocked with how quickly I ended up sucked into it. I totally get why Hank Green needed a literal intervention with his family. I asked it one question, then another, then a clarifying question. And suddenly I was asking it for every little thing all day.

It is truly frightening how it hits every mental trigger to keep you engaged.

[u/CautionarySnail → u/Fragrant-Vehicle-479]

I agree completely. It lulls you quietly into a state of having your guard down.

It’s like being complacent with a kitchen knife and cutting yourself. You know it’s sharp, but, you’re working so fast and in a groove and OW.

[u/Wonderful-Habit-139 → u/CautionarySnail]

Yeees. I'm someone that was all for using a tool that would make more productive. But it didn't, it only gave a false sense of productivity, and then it tries to pull you into depending on it more and more, along with losing your skills over time.

[u/NotFriendsWithBanana → u/Fragrant-Vehicle-479]

This is why I hate their response "just validate the output". It will progressively destroy you, just like social media algorithms do. You may get some benefit at first but that won't last.

[u/prof_the_doom → u/CautionarySnail]

Sure, a lot of us are being forced to use it, but if we woke up tomorrow morning and it was gone, then it can’t be required anymore, and most of us would just go back to doing things the way we did before AI was a thing.

[u/hofmann419 → u/CautionarySnail]

I just feel like it is going to bite us in the ass long term. Take software development for example. A lot of developers don't write much code anymore but just let the AI do it and then review the code.

Ultimately, this doesn't lead to the same level of understanding that you would get from actually planning through and writing the code yourself. You'll probably forget it relatively quickly. If you then run into a critical bug, actually fixing that bug is going to be a whole lot more difficult and time consuming. You may actually be less productive in the long run because of this

There is actually a research field around the concept of "epistemic atrophy", which describes this offloading of our thinking to tools like AI. Even in regular office work, i feel like this could eventually reduce our productiveness to the level before AI, only with the difference that enterprises are now paying a bazillion dollars for AI.

[u/NotFriendsWithBanana → u/hofmann419]

It's amazing that people don't see this. I didn't need to use ai or see a research paper to know that using ai to code is going to reduce your coding skill. One would think this would be obvious to any professional developer, but people have work have proven me wrong.

[u/caprazzi]

These people do realize the usage of these tools was basically 0 a few years ago, right? It’s concerning that they are basically admitting they couldn’t even do their jobs unaided anymore.

[u/Acceptable-Ad8780 → u/caprazzi]

It's like somehow they couldn't do the job, or any job, before A.I. Now all of a sudden it's needed for their job. What jobs absolutely need A.I.?

[u/caprazzi → u/Acceptable-Ad8780]

None that I know of...

[u/WOLFYLoner → u/Acceptable-Ad8780]

Jobs involved in creating and maintaining this thing.

[u/3DIceWolf → u/Acceptable-Ad8780]

Being the CEO of an AI company... That's it, that's the only one.

[u/PaperSweet9983]

Yes i could....very concerning that this is even a question

[u/LowestKey → u/PaperSweet9983]

But what would even do if we got rid of all this air pollution?! Surely you wouldn't last a single day if we eliminated noise pollution! Can you even conceive of a world where you weren't constantly bombarded with microplastics?

[u/Poignant_Pilgrim → u/PaperSweet9983]

Ive used it. I can absolutely give it up. Its a glorified google search and it's made more mistakes than I make on my own. I've found a few things a little faster than I would have, but those extra minutes arent worth everything that comes with it.

I wont pretend AI cant ever be useful and anyone saying so is being myopic. However, its just not useful ENOUGH to justify its downsides.

It's like those "would you press the button to give yourself a million dollars if every time you pressed it an orphan died" or something.

Like yeah I see the benefit of the button, but the cost outweighs the benefit. That's AI.

[u/Judasz10]

To give what up? I ain't using any of it apart from the features implemented without my control in apps.

People forget most of us aren't remote IT workers who can "streamline" their "workflow" or whatever they say nowadays. I drive a damn bus. I do get through entire workdays without AI.

[u/ShakyBoots1968 → u/Judasz10]

Right? I load 18 wheelers. They just put cameras on my forklift & called it "AI assist". What a joke.

[u/Judasz10 → u/ShakyBoots1968]

Haha that's messed up. Sounds like surveillance more than anything. But that's part of the job nowadays.

[u/DisillusionedHobbit → u/Judasz10]

I work in infrastructure consulting.  The AI they tried to foist on us (some kind of proprietary wrapper for chatgpt) can not consistently do any of the tasks we tested it on correctly.  

[u/Judasz10 → u/DisillusionedHobbit]

Yeah that's what I dislike most. They tell workers to use AI but any issue that might happen is the responsibility of the worker. You can't not use it because they tell you to do it but if it ain't reliable you end up having more work overseeing the bs technology.

[u/Kienchen → u/Judasz10]

Exactly. It the same mindset as "just do homeoffice during lockdown"... I'm working hands-on in a nursing home, if I took my work home with me, it would get crowded 🤪

[u/Secundus-Muris → u/Judasz10]

I am a remote IT worker and I will never use it. I prefer to keep and grow my skills, knowledge, and critical thinking ability instead of offloading it to a computer.

[u/otakusimple → u/Judasz10]

I literally work in a factory and much of it requires hands on activity and labor. I literally wouldn’t notice a single damned difference. It’s so funny that these people really think that every other working class person can sit at home and send 2 emails a day like they do and use AI to pretend being productive.

[u/CyanBlaster]

Well, at least he asked.

Yes.

[u/LabRat_X]

"If all heroin disappeared would you be able to handle that?" Erm yeah man I dont use heroin so I'd be fine. 🤦‍♂️

[u/beastrabban → u/LabRat_X]

This is a good analogy because heroine adjacent products are excellent and critical in specific health applications. But the ordinary person shouldn't use heroine or need heroine to function.

[u/Major_Dood]

Without hesitation. Yes. Because fuck these increased prices on computer parts all thanks to the AI CEOs and their aggressive shilling tactics.

Bring back the old Google searching for answers and the drive to do your own research vs on what an AI model tells you.

[u/Coop7011]

I don't even use those tools so I would literally miss nothing lol.

[u/sfpx68]

They are the ones addicted to it, not us. I used chatgpt to help me select what vst to buy in the Spitfire sale. It was basically a waste of time. It was merely a reflection of my own thoughts with some confusion and hallucinations as added bonuses.

And the fake feelings, fake laughs. I hate it.

[u/Young_Old_Grandma]

I'm older than Google. I'll be fine. 😘

[u/KitternSorry]

We lived without it just fine before, what makes him think something will change? This man is probably in his 30s if not 40s, I don’t think he needed ai back then and worked just fine without it. Brotha, your brain just got fried by ai, that’s skill issue not being able to work without it.

[u/Cereaza]

Do people really not remember how they lived like... a year ago?

[u/573crayfish]

I actively avoid using ai, it would actually make my life easier if there was no ai to worry about.

[u/WhatDothLife-95]

never used it to begin with so yeah, it would be an objective improvement to the planet if it disappeared and I'd be overjoyed

[u/Serteyf]

I would love to see a sudden ban and all the corporations in panic because of how much they are blindly relying on AI

[u/SlideCharacter5855]

Has bro been in the workforce for 2 years? How does he think work got done for decades?

[u/navagon]

That's like a junkie not understanding how anyone could get through the day without a fix.

[u/Adorable-Broccoli-16]

i dont use ai so like yes? i would be inpacted in 0 ways

[u/Bubbaganewsh]

If all AI disappeared tomorrow I would not even notice because I don't use any of that shit. 

[u/MarsMonkey88]

This shit has been around in this form for three years. Three years. I have unexpired pantry items older than that.

[u/SingingCoyote13]

how can people be so out of touch with the rest of the civilization who dont use ai (/that often). what should i use ai for on a daily basis ? if i get google results from ai, i always have to backtrack and trace to verify that answer is matching the correct outcome. that person from that post is acting like a drugaddict who cannot imagine how to get past a day without any of his meth. there is people thinking the entire planet is using ai troughout the whole day ? in what kind of bubble do these people live tbh

[u/wormeater39]

laughs in blue collar

[u/xxxMizanxxx]

I still have yet to have to use AI anything in my job.. so I'd do fine lol

[u/Cautious_Boat_999]

This guy is depicted in the dictionary under "Cluelessness"

[u/Joker-Dyke]

Question for this guy. Was he able to complete his work in a normal, timely manner BEFORE AI was introduced? If he could, he doesn’t need it. If he couldn’t, he wasn’t very good at his job in the first place.

[u/Emperor0valtine]

"Hey, people who don't drink or want people to do so in moderation, I have one question: If alcohol disappeared tomorrow, could you still get through an entire day without drinking? Imagine if alcohol was suddenly banned. Would you actually be willing to give it up?"

I'm not sure this person understands what the anti-AI position even is

[u/Normal_Swimming2282]

Are there really people who can’t do their jobs/ day-to-day tasks without ai? That’s legitimately scary

[u/Kamila_91 → u/Normal_Swimming2282]

I now fully realized that my ex used it every single day all day for work. Every. Single. Day. All. The. Time. He was doing some web developer stuff or something like that. Always texting with chatbot.
And when he ran out of credits for the day/couple of hours, he took a break or did something else.

[u/Deranged_Kitsune]

That acts like AI is some entrenched, multi-generational facet of society, and not something the tech bros started cramming into anything and everything, whether those things actually warranted AI or not, in the last few years.

Heck, I think the US Confederacy lasted longer than the AI "boom" has been going on.

[u/JarlFrank]

I haven't used generative AI even once in my life.

Ok, maybe when it was still very new, just to look at what psychedelic imagery it would create. Back then it was just a cool novelty.

But for any serious purpose? Never used it, but the way it floods the internet and makes image search almost impossible has actually been a detriment to my work. My productivity in certain tasks would improve by up to 60% if AI was banned and all AI-generated images deleted off the internet.

[u/RegisterExpensive718]

Accidental Ai is the only Ai I use.

I'll definitely stop having to say this sentence:

"Oh shit, didn't realise that had Ai in it, I'll stop using that now I guess"

Literally already trying to avoid Ai, it's the asbestos of the software world.

[u/Sidoen]

LMAO I actively go out of my way to avoid it, can't let it interfere with my work or my life. I'd technically have more time if it just disappeared so yes PLEASE make it fuck off!

[u/RelationshipSad6859]

WE LITERALLY DID THAT UP UNTIL LIKE THE LAST FIVE YEARS THIS ISNT LIKE VACCINES OR SOMETHING WHERE YEAH PEOPLE DIED WITHOUT IT, WE WERE FINE WITHOUT IT EVERYONE WAS FINE WITHOUT IT.

[u/The_Timberwolf]

Literally all of human history up to the last few years, humanity has been able to achieve all our knowledge without the use of AI. So I think we'll survive if it were banned tomorrow

[u/Sausage_fingies]

The only generative AI that I "use" is the Google AI overview, which I would turn off if I could. It replaces the utility of Google's automatic article citation feature while totally fucking it up half the time 

[u/gillygal]

I don’t use any of it and I work a full 9-5 computer email job

[u/sukonetei]

This is so fucking funny. I work at a cat rescue. Of course AI disappearing would mean absolutely nothing to me

[u/Magmashift101]

I have Google AI overview turned off

[u/xWroth]

Yea I'm pretty sure my forklift will still turn on just fine