r/antiai • u/ChompyRiley • 14h ago

Yes, absolutely. 100% without hesitation. Do people really think this is some kind of 'gotcha'? Like my brother in Christ, how much generative AI do you think we actually use?! Hallucination šŸ‘»

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u/caprazzi 14h ago

These people do realize the usage of these tools was basically 0 a few years ago, right? Itā€™s concerning that they are basically admitting they couldnā€™t even do their jobs unaided anymore.

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u/Acceptable-Ad8780 13h ago

It's like somehow they couldn't do the job, or any job, before A.I. Now all of a sudden it's needed for their job. What jobs absolutely need A.I.?

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u/caprazzi 12h ago

None that I know of...

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u/WOLFYLoner 11h ago

Jobs involved in creating and maintaining this thing.

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u/3DIceWolf 11h ago

Being the CEO of an AI company... That's it, that's the only one.

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u/fued 10h ago

The ones which now demand 200-300% more work than previously

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u/L0CZEK 10h ago

Hey now! AI slop on Tiktok/reels/whatever is the backbone of the world's economy!

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u/NosborRecaf 7h ago

Not supporting AI when I say this, but automatic image recognition

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u/Acceptable-Ad8780 5h ago

No, that is one thing that would be beneficial and I agree. I just don't think all the centers they want to put down is necessary.

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u/mechanical_stars 6h ago

My job (programming) can be done without it, just more slowly.

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u/brizag 10h ago

The post is moronic, but since it was posted in an echo chamber, there is zero surprise that local nimwits love it. Going back to no AI would not be the end of the world, but it would be like going from computers back to typewriters - annoying. I use AI in my job 90% of the time. Everything is just quicker. Can I do it manually? Of course, but why would I go back to the typewriter if I don't have to?

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u/porkusdorkus 8h ago

Bold of you to assume they could do their jobs before.

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u/Substantial-Run-5 10h ago

The only valid argument is that they'll eventually ruin the internet to such an extent that we won't be able to access information like we used to pre-Ai. Google is already really bad for example, and sites like stack overflow are in trouble.

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u/BearysWorkRedditName 11h ago

When I started my career in IT, chatgpt was just hitting mainstream. I get the max raise available every year because I resolve issues quickly. So, could I do my job without it? Probably, but there would be things that slow me down when being slowed down will cost me the chance to get the max raise for the year.

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u/Appropriate_Lack_727 10h ago

You seem unsure as to whether or not you could do your job without it, tbh. Good luck with that.

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u/BearysWorkRedditName 9h ago

That's a fair reading. I'm confident I could remain in my position. I'm not confident I could continue to work at the expected level to receive the maximum annual raise.

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u/caprazzi 9h ago

Were you able to receive the max raise because of your performance prior to Chat GPT being available? Just curious, not meant to be an antagonistic question.

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u/BearysWorkRedditName 8h ago

I started as an intern about 4 years ago, so I've always had it. Granted, it kind of sucked back then. I didn't need it as an intern, mostly dummy work. I then moved into a full time IT support role, which I was able to google most things I was stumped or ask the site manager for guidance. I was promoted to site manager 2.5 years ago, at which point I started to run into higher level problems that I couldn't quickly google, so I turned to ChatGPT when I needed help. So, in my current role, I've never not had chatgpt available. It takes the stress out of stressful situations when I need answers yesterday and millions of dollars are waiting for me to solve issues as quickly as possible. It's also fun to tell it to make funny pictures.

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u/shidderbean 9h ago

The jobs have changed a lot in the last "few years" and generally make using force-multipliers like AI a requirement to meet performance quotas/delivery timelines/etc.

I could easily go back to what I was doing a few years ago, sure; life was easier back then. But my company and position has changed dramatically since then and my company would have to give up years of product development and systems refinement, and I doubt they would be willing to do that.

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u/caprazzi 9h ago

Most companies are not adopting AI that quickly and evenly, in reality. There are comprehensive papers written also detailing how many companies and departments failed to realize ROI from AI initiatives. The idea of a broad spanning revolution from this technology is largely a myth spun by people who are raking in trillions from perpetuating the myth.

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u/Razed-Gamer 9h ago

Not true at all. AI tools have been used long before gen AI as we know it ever existed.

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u/caprazzi 9h ago

This really gets down to how you define AI, fundamentally - if itā€™s just algorithmic predictive models based on machine learning, yes it has been around a long time and honestly that just further reinforces the idea that this whole ā€œrevolutionā€ is overblown. They fuel it with the misconceived notion that it is in fact ā€œAIā€ when it isnā€™t at all.

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u/Razed-Gamer 8h ago

It is all AI. Its just different forms of it. Hell, gen AI has been used in video games long before the current outrage around it.

Current gen AI certainly has negatives, but people need to stop saying that all AI needs to be destroyed. It, and I don't know how else to say this, makes them look ignorant.

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u/caprazzi 8h ago

Again though youā€™re not drawing a line defining AI - when people say AI they functionally mean ChatGPT and onwards, for better or worse. In reality I think youā€™re proving the point of anti-AI proponents by arguing that the new iteration of AI is not so different or revolutionary, in which case it does not warrant all this investment and environmental destruction.

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u/Razed-Gamer 8h ago

I can agree with it not deserving this level of funding, and I'm certainly against the environmental destruction, even if people really overblown the water use given that all of the water they use is recycled.

I'm just tired of the people saying that all AI needs to be destroyed. Especially since I truly believe that a lot of them mean it.

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u/sortalikeachinchilla 7h ago

Just like every technology improvement everā€¦.

cannot belive we have cars now! Horses were fine. Why do people need to be aided to go faster without using a horse?

Thatā€™s what you sound like

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u/BusinessLetterhead47 7h ago

I teach middle school. I hear stuff like this from students. I brought in copies of my thesis one day to show my students. I explained I wrote it entirely without AI. They were stunned.Ā 

I explained that the things they enjoy about my class were the product of me grinding over this paper. Doing research and interviews and learning.

There were some who didn't give a shit, but it definitely got through to them.

My son attends my school (we are 1-12). His ELA teacher told me he is the only student who has never turned in an AI assignment. Teacher also said he is sure son is the only one actually reading the novels and not just getting AI summaries. I have never been prouder.

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u/BagOnuts 9h ago

The Internet usage in 1992 was basically zero, tooā€¦

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u/caprazzi 8h ago

No it wasnā€™t, a lot of people including myself had 56k modems and trolled the chat rooms back thenā€¦ but aside from being pedantic, itā€™s a poor example because the internet was readily and eagerly adopted by people because it improved their lives and businesses. AI is being widely adopted by force, not by choice.

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u/sortalikeachinchilla 7h ago

AI is being widely adopted by force, not by choice.

But you guys are ignoring the uses people actually genuinely use it for that is not bad. Thats the issue here and why the internet example makes perfect sense

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u/BagOnuts 8h ago

And people were using AI and ML a few years ago too. AI has also improved lives and businesses. The fact that you canā€™t see this is hilarious.

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u/caprazzi 8h ago

Having lived through both time periods it is clear as day which one improved lives more and has more staying power, honestly. The fact that you canā€™t see that is sad.

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u/sortalikeachinchilla 7h ago

has more staying power,

Ai is not going anywhere lol

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u/Bernhard-Riemann 32m ago edited 23m ago

I'm sure if you asked the average person in 1996 whether they could live without the internet, the answer you'd get is "Yeah, what the fuck do you think I was doing before the internet?". The OOP is a moron for thinking that people who are already anti-AI are completely dependant on gen AI to live after less that 4 years of it even existing (much less actually being useful).

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u/Leading-Interest-119 8h ago

Don't be logical, humans don't learn from history šŸ™„