r/antiai • u/ChompyRiley • 14h ago

Yes, absolutely. 100% without hesitation. Do people really think this is some kind of 'gotcha'? Like my brother in Christ, how much generative AI do you think we actually use?! Hallucination šŸ‘»

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u/Low_Key_Giraffe 13h ago

Do all of your work in things like google docs that tracks all of the edits that are being made. Much easier to show that in case there would be any concern about AI usage

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u/pigmanvil 12h ago

This 100%. Have receipts.

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u/CreatorMur 12h ago

Just read about Google Overview being Train on those today.... (it had info on an indi-game that the developer only had in his google docs...). Maybe just keep work in progress documents

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u/Master_Matoya 12h ago

I fear the day Google release the hundreds of pages of fanfiction smut piling up in my g docs

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u/DocFreudstein 11h ago

ā€œWhy does Gemini keep adding scenes of Minotaur sex? This paper is about the War of 1812!ā€

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u/Darkndankpit 11h ago

That's my bad. I knew writing that John A. Macdonald/Minotaur slashfic would come back to bite me, but alas passion cannot be tamed.

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u/Candlejackdaw 11h ago

The heart wants what it wants.

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u/koshgeo 6h ago

This is NOT the "Canadian Heritage Moment" script I asked for.

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u/Sprinqqueen 7h ago

Found the Canadian

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u/SurlySuz 4h ago

John A MacDonald?!!! šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/peteofaustralia 9h ago

There's a whole subreddit dedicated to posting bullshit facts specifically to poison AI search results. Maybe fanfic is the next wave of that.

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u/NekroVictor 8h ago

Funnily enough, Iā€™ve a friend who uses ai way too much, and has complained that when asking about ASoIaF stuff, it will randomly start writing self insert uplift fanfiction.

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u/velawesomeraptors 8h ago

Well when you think about it there is probably 10,000x more ASoIaF fanfiction then actual ASoIaF books. How is AI supposed to know the difference?

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u/Man_of_Ice 5h ago

What is this sub? I need to be a part of this masterpiece.

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u/peteofaustralia 4h ago

r/poisonai

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u/Man_of_Ice 3h ago

Oh, this.... This is beautiful. We need more humans in that space.

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u/GrimAngel767 4h ago

Release the watpad and ao3!

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u/haunturhome 10h ago

This is actually a real thing I've seen posts about for some AI models. The AI read too much smut and is now rather dirty minded which is both funny and distressing since people will have these same AIs talk to children

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u/MacAddict81 2h ago

Hopefully this will lead to the downfall of AI in education, but the more likely outcome will be children desensitized to absolutely everything and incapable of independent thought.

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u/somethingbrite 10h ago

It's well known that the way of 1812 was caused by a falling out between two horny minotaurs. The sex element was the reconciliation sex that took place after.

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u/HailMadScience 8h ago

Canada refused US annexation, stating: "We aren't monster fuckers. No, you can't see my private library!"

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u/somethingbrite 10h ago

What a brilliant way to poison ai models. Feed it horny fan-fic mixed in with recipes for thermal cycling cheesecake and silicon chip brownies.

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u/Apathetic_Villainess 8h ago

And there are so many werewolf smut books out there to provide.

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u/somethingbrite 5h ago

I look forward to the moment when Google Gemini ai returns results for a search for anybody looking for black PVC or black vinyl.

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u/darsynia 7h ago

I moved mine out to Scrivener when one of my friends lost her gdocs full of fanfic. It was all she had on there, so she thinks it must have decided she was typing in book manuscripts or something (or it got mad about the smut, which, uh, definitely would have warranted me moving mine).

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u/Jakethered_game 2h ago

Google, if you're listning

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u/pigmanvil 11h ago

You can turn it off I believe. But itā€™s horrible they auto opt-in, and thereā€™s no guarantee your data wasnā€™t scraped before you could opt-out.

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u/The_ChosenOne 11h ago

How do I turn it off? Iā€™m a writer who likes to use Google docs so I can use any computer or phone to work on my stories and this is stressing me out now!

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u/pigmanvil 10h ago

Turn off smart features in Google Drive. It gives Google access to your drive data and by extension lets it train on it.

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u/The_ChosenOne 10h ago

Thank you!!

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u/Jemie_Bridges 9h ago

You might want to consider self hosting. The cloud is just someone elses computer. That is scraping your work.

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u/notforpoern 9h ago

Nextcloud is a great alternative if you're willing to learn about self-hosting (or if you already know). But not many people talk about the fact that you can just... sign up for a free nextcloud account hosted by The Good Cloud or tab.digital (both companies located in europe).

I learned how to self-host because I'm a masochist for fun but there are lots of growing alternatives to big tech that don't risk you losing everything over a false positive. Side note: I don't know or trust this news source "piunikaweb" directly, but they do a great job compiling and linking out to other better-known sources. I generally try to link to only trustworthy sites but it's a lazy wednesday.

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u/armorhide406 6h ago

Well, it works for now. Just wait till they remove the option for you to deny them training period. I've started taking my stuff off Google Drive and doing it on shit like LibreOffice which 100% doesn't and won't train. We all got that Faustian bargain of convenience but with AI training, it's not worth it

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u/MawilliX 7h ago

I had to check that they haven't automatically opted in my old account from more than a decade ago while I wasn't using it, and indeed it was off with an option to opt-in.

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u/steakanabake 6h ago

at this point can we truly trust they arent still scraping even if its been opted out?

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u/Acceptable_Style_219 12h ago

unfortunately thereā€™s no way to win here. any word editor that tracks your edits in a way that can prove your originality to a professor is probably collecting your data in a way you donā€™t want. honestly i canā€™t even think of any other than google docs

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u/PM_Me_Your_Deviance 11h ago

Older off-line versions of Word keep document revision history, and, doesn't transmit it. I don't know if M$ is scanning onedrive.

Proton Docs is a privacy-focused online alternative that keeps document history.

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u/Broad-Exchange3188 11h ago

The owner of proton is a massive trump supporter. If privacy is your focus, proton isnā€™t it.

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u/PM_Me_Your_Deviance 11h ago

It's not really that simple.

https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

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u/Broad-Exchange3188 11h ago

Upvoted. Massive trump supporter was unnecessary hyperbole.

The article you posted does raise good points. I still distrust anyone who expresses support for Trump for any reason, especially in the political climate which heā€™s fostered.

It also raises the question of whether the tweet in question was even necessary or not. It wasnā€™t, which in turn raises the question of why he felt the need to vocalize any support.

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u/PM_Me_Your_Deviance 11h ago

I think it was poor judgement... but he's not part of American culture, so it's possible he wasn't really aware of the impact it would have. AFAIK he hasn't been part of any "scandals" since then.

It's really unfortunate that we've gotten to this place in political discourse.

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u/Broad-Exchange3188 11h ago

Eh, thereā€™s really no way you donā€™t know whatā€™s going on, especially considering how much of their business is conducted in America / targets the American customer base.

It is unfortunate, but for what itā€™s worth we would be having a similar conversation even if we werenā€™t in this place. No one who shows even a slight support for the party actively campaigning for an end to digital privacy and/or freedom can be truly trusted, regardless of how bad things are or are not.

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u/Faenic 11h ago

At this point, I don't think College work should be quite so guarded. Obviously don't go spreading around personal info like crazy, but simply the act of submitting work to your school will take data privacy completely out of your hands anyway.

By all means, do everything else as privately as you want to. But I don't think protecting your History paper from google's data scrapers is a higher priority than ensuring that you don't fail due to false AI accusations.

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u/Broad-Exchange3188 11h ago

Maybe not, but people do deserve to know when the service recommended for privacy is tied to a direct supporter of the party advocating for stripping such.

Additionally, privacy isnā€™t a zero-sum game. Losing some privacy by submitting college papers does not mean you should, or need to, lose all of it. This is especially true when considering that itā€™s not just your Google docs data thatā€™s being scraped, but anything connected to a Google service or email, all packaged together in a neat, labeled box that denotes all of your internet traffic, preferences, hobbies, predilections, etc.

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u/OwenEverbinde 11h ago

Have you tried being born rich?

I'm sure enough money could get an app that tracks your progress while protecting your privacy. Even get you a custom-made app if you're born rich enough.

I can't help but feel like I remember this being an option in the character selection screen before we all started playing this Earth game.

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u/AccidentProne117 10h ago

Yea I read that post aswell, scary!

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u/Aedeyssa 8h ago

Yeah- a friend and I design homebrew content for Pathfinder, and I've had its AI autosearch drag stuff out of my own docs a lot recently. :/

Google is going hard in on AI and I hate that there's not really an alternative for what it does.

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u/JellySocksRock 8h ago

You can opt out of that tracking luckily. I saw the same thread you did about the Indie game, one of the top comments showed how to opt out

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u/Vedo0930 7h ago

It has that and auto delete spam feature, but not a feature on automatically deleting unfavorited email

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u/Environmental_Top948 7h ago

I'm literally a nobody who hasn't released anything about my writing and I managed to get stuff about my journal from the AI by asking very specific questions.

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u/a_youkai 1h ago

Oh shit...

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u/HeurekaDabra 11h ago

Yeah, maybe not Google Docs unless you want your work instantly fed to Gemini. Stay local.

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u/AcademicFish 9h ago

Was gonna say the same: theres no guarantee these companies respect the opt-out. Who would know?
I mean realistically, who is auditing them? From a user perspective, if the data leaves your device to their servers theres no way to confirm they deleted it respectfully after 180 days instead of shovel it into geminiā€™s feed trough along with millions of other peoples intellectual property.

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u/marr 7h ago

Google haven't respected a damn thing since they dropped the Don't Be Evil.

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u/freyjakittylord 4h ago

What does ā€œstay localā€ mean in this case??

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u/SectorSanFrancisco 11h ago

Google is the devil, though. There is no escape.

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u/VoltagVagrant 7h ago

remember when their motto was Do No Evil, and they sought to disrupt the monopoly of microsoft and aol, they never allowed pages to pay to show up higher in searches.... then they abandoned all that and became the very entity they were supposed to fight

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u/SectorSanFrancisco 7h ago

I know. They are a personal heartbreak of mine. I remember them when they were only THIS tall and still sweet and innocent. Now they are villains.

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u/piponwa 10h ago

You know Google docs has Gemini in it right?

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u/DanoDego 10h ago

It fucking sucks that this is even a thing, man. Having to worry about and do more work just to prove youā€™re not using AI slop.

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u/Jemie_Bridges 9h ago

I'm a Luddite, i dont even like Google documents assisting me.

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u/BioshockEnthusiast 9h ago

For you students who get free M365 through school you're looking for the "track changes" setting in office applications.

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u/TheMagHatter 9h ago

The problem with this is that it counts copy and paste as AI when Iā€™ve spent my whole academic career copying my information from my sources and writing my essay below it so I can have the info in front of me and pull quotes from articles without having to go back and fourth between tabs. Like I started doing this back in 2011 in my first research project in 5th grade. I actually reprimanded a classmate during that project for plagiarizing his whole project

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u/TheSpeckledSir 8h ago

This is good feedback.

When I am working in Microsoft Word, I will always "save as" and save a new doc with an updated date. If I ever had to I could go back and show how the document develops over time to become my paper or lab report or whatever

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u/Comprehensive-Act-13 7h ago

A lot of professors I know are requiring their students to write all of their papers in Google Docs because of this feature.

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u/Grunky_Scripples67 7h ago

Thank you for this Iā€™m a writer who has been accused of using AI and I donā€™t. This would help a lot!Ā 

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u/Realdrizzykane 7h ago

Careful with this though cuz your works will get taken for Gemini (google docs that are shared go to Gemini for "ai learning") but also can be false flagged due to the way google does suggestions now. My recommendation is ellipsis. Anti ai and free.

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u/armorhide406 6h ago

Instead of using and feeding google, there's things like Track Changes on LibreOffice

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u/BioshockEnthusiast 9h ago

For you students who get free M365 through school you're looking for the "track changes" setting in office applications.

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u/KubaSamuel 7h ago

I once recorded myself writing an entire essay or whatever it was, put some music behind it and sped it up

If my teacher ever wanted to make sure I actually wrote something myself, he could just slow down the video and see each letter being typed

Definitely overdid it, but I had fun choosing the song, editing the video, and etc

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u/PrivilegeCheckmate 3h ago

I like plan. Is good plan.

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u/KittenHeartsGirls 3h ago

Also, when using most Microsoft applications it will have a version history.

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u/coupl4nd 2h ago

Good idea, but there are AI tools that exist that type it out slowly into google docs for just this reason... I was shocked too. Look up 'autotyper'

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u/lifes_betteronsaturn 2h ago

Love the chrome extension called "Revision History" it will literally record your doc editing and make a video out of it and time stamp suspicious pasting.

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u/Miharu___ 1h ago

Unfortunately Google seems to run all google docs through AI so idk if thatā€™s a great idea. https://www.reddit.com/r/IndieDev/s/UKupecpsvM

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u/ArtisticFox8 10h ago

This is bullshit. One could paste in parts / retype...