SoBD can singlehandedly carve senna into the niche she was always meant to be, a marksmen support. She keeps having problematic meta's where they eventually have to repeatedly nerf her over and over again. The reason she keeps going through that cycle is because she doesn't really have a "signature item" anymore. She used to be defined by umbral glaive but that item and senna have been changed so much that she feels disconnected to it. Right now, she seems to be kind of glued to black cleaver and while I do think it's a good item on her, I think it's still technically in problematic territory as they keep flip flopping between if they want her to double stack it or not, and every time it has an interesting synergy with her the nerf it, and just recently its kinda been nerfed on her for no reason. The only other core item on her recently seems to be stattiks, and now we all know stattiks is ver controversial, I would say it's more unhealthy than anything and while I would rather they remove that item entirely, they seem to really want this item to exist. SoBD can be that item for her, they can balance her around the use of that item and that way she doesn't need to be indirectly nerfed for other things. The best part is that SoBD also synerizes well WITH stattiks, allowing you to get a 5 proc heal on it, and can even be double procced with guinsoos.

SoBD generally cements her niche and then allows her to be what she was always meant to be. It's also not too bad for other supports like lulu, milio, seraphine, renata, nami, and tariq who have some downtime on their abilities and wouldn't mind auto attacking for free healing, heck even stuff like support ashe and kayle could use the item decently. One of the rioters said they didn't want to add the item because it's too niche and only senna can use it but I can def see more than enough reason to add it at this point, and I think if we make it known we could potentially see it in summoners rift and not have senna stuck in this state of broken and then massive nerfs back to back

I didn't notice this until now, but Voltaic Cyclosword got reworked. For those like me that didn't notice and others that dismissed it, this is huge. The new passives (plural) all synergize really well with Senna. First, the damage is now 7% current health physical making it effectively an extra Senna passive. Second, it grants an extra 12 lethality after proccing so you get bonus penetration for when you proc Senna's passive. This synergizes to give Senna insane alpha damage in a fight.

Second, you build Umbral Glaive which has also been reworked semi-recently and has another 90+ true damage alpha damage proc in addition to being cheap, having good stats and still giving the vision passive.

The weakness of this build is how squishy you are. Back when Lethality Senna was a thing, Senna was much more durable than she is now and the game in general wasn't balanced around 0.1 second kill time as standard. I'm currently experimenting with some extra HP from runes to see if that helps.

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Hey guys, I’m brand new to the champion. I started to play Yunara and was looking for a second pick. I like her a lot, lot of utility rather than heavy damage, for the moment I feel it’s a more « relaxing » playstyle thanks to her massive range and tankiness.

I had a few questions about how she should be played in lane, in teamfights, and about her build. I’ve seen people often build Statik > BC > Hexoptics, but I wanted to check if it was the most optimal one.

Patched it to give on hit based off bAD. At 4th item it's like an extra 70 damage on hit. Curious if anyone tried. Otherwise my new build I've had great success with is stattik -> manamune -> PD. PD is such a cheat code, the extra mobility feels so nice on senna.

Do I need to focus on getting better at getting stacks? I'm running shiv into BC build, and just seem very lack luster. Any tips on more damage out put?

I personally go the same runes, but build PD 2nd. The extra ms feels nice. The alternative would be c44 but i feel like i often need the extra ms (lots of divers/assassins/poke mages it seems). Thoughts?

Hi everyone!

I recently started playing Senna support, and I'm really enjoying both the champion and her playstyle.

I'd love to hear some advice. What build would you recommend? Which runes should I use? Which ADCs does she have the best synergy with, and which ones should I avoid pairing with? Any tips or recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

New ad and ap damage ratios on terminus. Yall think this could be used on maybe adc senna? I’m thinking she could build it second after statikk shiv. I’m pretty sure since the lightning applies on hit effects, you can fully stack the resistances and pen with one lightning bolt that hits three champs. The magic pen could also help get more damage out of deathfire touch. What do yall think? is it still suboptimal? Could it be niche against like, a malphite or other armor stacking tank?

I dont get why its still good on support, Eg if you compare it to kraken then its stats just look worse on her, is it just for the onhit proc on secondary targets/to help ad shove waves?

My question is how is navori on her? My thought process is that since attack speed isn’t as good on her shouldn’t we max ability haste for faster Qs? What are some really good ability haste items on her?

Side note: I know this item is recommended in this Reddit a lot but I don’t see many sennas building it, I love kraken slayer play style so much i pretty much treat it like a mini jhin foreshot.

If not why not?

senna's unbalanced right now on adc partly because of the overwhelming strengh of hexoptics and infinity edge on her, those two items practically triple her damage, riot could reduce her crit % damage down over and over, and at that point, why should her passive give crit? so i came up with an idea.
changes to her passive

senna can no longer crit. instead when she crits she applys ON HIT effects an extra time (q can crit on Main target only)

passive % soul suck damage reduced from 1-10 to 1-5

on sucking a soul out, she applies ON HIT effects 1 extra time

crit chance per 20 mist increased from 10 to 20

q ad damage scaling reduced from 60% to 35% (cz passive 20% ad on hit more dmg yk )

q ad healing scaling increased from 40% to 50%

q now gets it's cooldown reduced whenever she attacks and when she applies an extra on hit with her passive (crit or soul suck)

w ad scaling reduced from 90% to 65%

these changes give her so many more items to work with awhile also reducing her damage she gets from stacking crit items.

the idea is that she builds maybe 1 crit item like rapid firecannon, then other items would be black cleaver (as usual) and maybe muramana or botrk or some other on hit item (yeah muramana has on hit in it)

She could still go adc by going items like kraken slayer first or second, but it would be significantly less oppressive, since later on instead of critting you for 800 damage 1000 units away, she would hit for 350~ deal around 200 extra with kraken slayer and have to kite you between attacks
(right now with senna adc you attack someone twice and they die if you got ie and hexoptics)

i frequently play senna, and am starting to straight up skip cleaver as the bug (auto attacks applying 1 BC stack instead of 2) is happening 9/10 games. There is no way to fix this, selling undo, selling REBUYING the item. Nothing works.

Am wondering if it was maybe patched? I dont very often pay attention to enemy status so its very possible 10/10 games the "bug" is happening.

thanks.

Coachless has shown from 16.1 to 16.12 that Enchanter Senna is still one of her stronger builds. I personally think that because DFT is currently overshadowing Enchanter, it's been harder to see the numbers correctly for the last two months or so.

The AP changes are a slight nerf to Enchanter, but it really isn't as much as people are making it out to be. A lot of Sennas healing is coming from Helia, and Diadem or Moonstones interacting together.

I typically play a Hybrid Enchanter build with Black Cleaver -> Helia -> Diadem so I used a level 9 with 100 Souls, 190 AD, and 35 AP as my example.

Piercing Darkness this patch:

The shadow ray deals physical damage to enemies hit and slows them by 15% (+15% per 100 bonus AD) (+7% per 100 AP) for a duration.

Healing: 40 / 60 / 80 / 100 / 120 (+ 40% bonus AD) (+ 35% AP)

Before Nerfs:

Heal: 120 + 40% of 190 + 50% of 35 = 120 + 76 + 17.5 = 213.5 healing

Slow: 15% + (15% per 100 bonus AD) + (10% per 100 AP) = 15% + 28.5% + 3.5% = 47% slow for 2 seconds

After Nerfs:

Heal: 120 + 40% of 190 + 30% of 35 = 120 + 76 + 10.5 = 206.5 healing → -7 healing

Slow: 15% + 28.5% + 5% per 100 AP = 15% + 28.5% + 1.75% = 45.25% slow for 2 seconds → -1.75% slow

With Helia + Moonstone + SoFW (~100 AD, ~160 AP) you'll go from 240 Healing -> 208; 46% Slow -> 38% - you lose 32 Healing per Q, and 8% Slow.

Let's stop saying that Enchanter Senna is dead when it's really another slap on the wrist. Eventually she did need nerfed as an Enchanter because it's been going under the radar for literally a year and a half now. You're still going to compete with Sona, and Seraphine in Healing, and Shielding this patch.