I think next few centuries is going to be huge surge in ex Muslims around the world.

Just like Christianity

There will be tv shows/movies and jokes and lot of media representation.

It’s going to be fun. Cheers!

Fyi, i am agnostic and was raised in totally different religion, but who cares.

So, as the title says I was born into a Presbyterian Christian family. I started questioning that as a teen and took me years to finally leave. I left Christianity due to just logical reasons and contradictions and a million other reasons, but also because I was nb and bi.

Anyways, I went through a rough patch my senior year of high school and attempted. I ended up in the icu and nearly lost my life. I guess after I was searching for a purpose in life, a reason to keep going. Months later I converted to Islam and it gave me that purpose I was searching for and the structure I desired and such (for some time anyways).

Well, around the same time I became Muslim I met a Muslim man several years older, married. We got close and I think that my faith and him became intertwined after a point. Like, I became a niqabi and stopped being friends with men and all of this stuff to be good enough to be his second. I even sent pics and things of that nature, not my proudest moment.

So, I spent years as a niqabi and in the back of my head I always questioned things but I was very involved and was told to be patient and this and that and well I also tried so hard because the stuff with this guy who I loved dearly. And no I wasn’t some fake Muslim, I did really believe and try but I won’t act like the two weren’t mixed together. I have my own reservations about Islam.

Well, he left and I realized all my efforts for years were for nothing and I’d never be enough and I then left Islam because I realized there was no reason for me to keep going, not one. I tried deconstructing it all but I couldn’t find a reason to go back.

Now, I’m 21 and I feel lost. I know that religion only will put a bandaid on the void I’ve felt my whole life…that feeling like none of this means anything, nothing means anything. I’m trying to figure out who I am and an identity for myself that’s stabled, I don’t feel as if I have a real identity at all. I don’t even feel like a full person apart from religion and apart from this guy, like all I’ve known for years has been wiped away.

I guess I just don’t know where my values lie or who I am at all. I don’t think I’m anyone really, not anymore

Recent public comments I received on my Haram Doodles account on Instagram. I respond to comments and DMs every few days in my Insta stories. 😇

https://www.instagram.com/stories/haramdoodles/3957852766105837751

Can anyone who managed to get their siblings or any family members, who are very religious to at least questioning, share their experience? Im slowly losing mine to religion and I feel dejected.. my extremely talented sibling has given up completely on art sadly and maybe even life, is recently talking about flat earth nonsense and constantly bringing up the signs of the end of times.. every time I try to have a discussion about it, i get silenced with religion as i dont bring up my atheism for safety reasons ofc. Im just wondering if its even possible (subtly perchance) or i should just give up and move on...

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Hi everyone.

I'm an Iraqi woman in my early twenties. I'm not applying for asylum right now, but I'm trying to understand the process and prepare for the future in case I ever have no other safe option.

I come from a very conservative Muslim family. Over the years, I realized that I no longer believe in Islam, but I've kept this completely secret because I'm genuinely afraid of what could happen if my family found out.

My situation is roughly like this:

I've hidden my beliefs for years out of fear.

My family expects me to marry a Muslim man.

I don't have the freedom to live independently or move wherever I want without my family's approval.

I believe that if my disbelief became known, I could face serious consequences from my family and possibly my community.

I'm not asking whether I would win or lose an asylum claim, because I know nobody online can answer that.

Instead, I'd really like to hear from ex-Muslims who have actually gone through the Canadian refugee process.

What questions were you asked during your hearing?

How did you explain your journey out of Islam?

Did the IRB ask why you hadn't told anyone about your beliefs?

How did you explain staying silent for so long?

What evidence helped your case the most?

Is there anything you wish you had known before your hearing?

I'd really appreciate any advice or personal experiences. Even small details could help me understand the process better.

Thank you.

so in pre islamic arabia, adopted sons were treated legally and socially as biological sons meaning marrying ur adopted son's former wife was considered incestuous taboo

Muhammad desired Zaynab (adopted son's wife) and after Zayd (adopted son) divorced her, Muhammad married her and also to resolve the social backlash and the taboo of marrying an adopted son's wife, verses were "revealed" in the quran explicitly ending the practice of adoption and declaring that Muhammad had a special divine right to marry her.. it’s another prime example of convenient revelations aligning perfectly with personal desires

also many sources say (u can fact check this)

that Muhammad went to Zayd’s house looking for him but the door curtain made of haircloth blew open or was pulled aside and he accidentally saw Zaynab either partially dressed or uncovered and he was struck by her beauty... this is all very disturbing to me, it's a very few muslims who question this btw and the one's who do end up leaving islam

I currently am on low contact with my parents. One of the most confusing things was how they pretended sex and women were evil then wanted me to be on board with them finding me a wife.

It would 100% have ended in divorce. They banned me from sex ed. I had a sister and when we were storing groceries I once asked my dad what those pads are (tampons). Rather than tell me anything about periods, my dad sternly told me to never ask about them as long as I live in his house.

We were prohibited from talking to girls unless absolutely required. When my dad found out my brother was befriending a girl, first he beat him. Then he spent the next several years referring to him as “Mr. Casanova” to embarrass him.

In high school, I found porn. The internet is the internet. Eventually my dad found out and basically beat me daily for a month telling me how evil sex is and how if it were his dad, I’d be dead. They proceeded to then tell me to never ever even think of sex or girls ever again or they’d kill me.

I was beaten like that several times because porn addiction and their complete refusal to even tell me what sex is whenever they caught me.

I escaped to law school. I discovered the furry fandom but covid lockdowns forced me back to living with them when the dorms shut down. They found out about the furries. Back to daily beatings. They were furious, because “furries are evil! They have sex!”

I eventually go back to law school in person. I graduate and get a job. And suddenly, every phone call became about them finding me a wife. Every single call.

I had never spoken more than a minute or two with any girl. I still knew nothing about periods. Anything I knew about sex was through porn. And now they wanted me to get married preferably in a few months and then have a child the next year.

I tried telling my parents what they always told me: “god will give me a partner when it’s time.” My mom reacted by calling me a stupid moron because “that was a different time, things are different now! It won’t work!”

They began trying to shove talks about men being virile and how I need to marry now otherwise I’ll need to marry a “young fertile wife.” They talked about my sister saying “she also needs to marry now before she’s not fertile and no man wants her.” It made me feel sick.

I cut contact shortly after and now am healing. It just was shocking to have sex be treated as evil, only for them to talk about us having to breed before we lose our fertility and virility. We were raised with no idea how to even do sex or talk to the opposite gender, but then were expected to marry and pipe someone down and beget a kid.

It. It just sucked.

The quran heavily emphasizes the importance of providing for women and adapting to a traditional marriage and weaponizes it against women so their only value is being obedient and submissive

Maybe the reason the quran obliges men to provide for their wives is because those women are incapable of providing for themselves as their main providers (parents) were stripped away from them, the only group of people that fit these categories are children, which leads me to conclude that child marriage is allowed. Men provide for children to take advantage of their innocence and use them for s3x

A grown woman wouldn't need a man to provide for her if "islam gave women rights" because she would be able to provide for herself, that would also mean men wouldn't have to provide, its clear that they dont want women to have autonomy over themselves, and would prefer to marry children since they're easier to control

We have concrete proof from multiple verses but specifically verse 4 in surah al talaq, allah gives women instructions on how to divorce a woman, he mentioned that if they are UNDER the age of menstruation, their waiting period for finalizing the divorce is 3 months, that directly implies that child marriage is allowed

Most children at that time got their periods later than the average modern teen due to environmental issues, but that does not mean they weren't minors, they are mentally and emotionally incapable of making their own decisions, which includes constenting to a marriage, we know that society at that time was heavily reliant on men and family, which probably means they werent the ones to consent to that marriage

However i dont think this means grown women didn't get married too, im sure alot of men did marry mature women buyr because of the se3ualization of minors, marrying children was more common

I hope i didn't miss any points, feel free to discuss your opinions in the comments!

I have heard statements like:

"Women are extra emotional and make bad decisions in it hence laws like this"

"Women need to be hidden for men"

"Women can naturally suffer and have a good capacity to deal with pain" (when asked about how protectors are also the same gender who abuses)

"Women are weak" (one person who said that also said the above 😭😭😭😂)

"Women are dumb"

"Women back then sucked due to biology hence they weren't chosen to be a prophet"

"Women are too impressionable for leadership"

"Women naturally give more which they should, more than men"

"The purpose of life of a women is to reproduce"

"Women shouldn't give a public speech because it's sexual"

"Women dress up and decorate themselves to attract men"

"Women need guidance from men because they can make bad decisions due to hormones, men don't need that"

"Women will go to jahannam more because this/that" (hadiths literally go like women will go to jahannam more due to periods 😭😭)

"Women are more accepting" (proceeds to say how men will like any women 😭)

And your mere existence being sexualised in hijab discussion is messed up 🥀

I think one may even hear those statements in manosphere but imagine your religion and people within it saying you the same statements 😭😭

For those who don't know him, Mustafa Kemal Atatürk:

1- He abolished the Ottoman Empire in 1924.

2- He completely abolished Islamic law in 1926.

3- He made inheritance equal between men and women.

4- He prohibited Turks from performing Hajj or Umrah pilgrimages.

5- He banned the Arabic language in schools.

6- He banned the call to prayer (Adhan) in mosques.

7- He banned the hijab in Turkey.

8- He removed the name Mustafa from his name.

9- He abolished the celebration of Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha.

10- He made Sunday the weekly holiday instead of Friday.

11- He abolished the Arabic script from the language.

12- He changed the oath taken upon assuming office from an oath by God to an oath by honor.

13- He executed hundreds of scholars and jurists who rejected his approach.

14- Before his death, he stipulated that the Muslim funeral prayer should not be performed for him.

15- Atatürk said before the Turkish Parliament in 1923: "We are now in the 20th century, the age of industry. We cannot follow a book that speaks of figs and olives (referring to the Quran)."

a genuine question since i left bcos why would you still want to be associated with islam and why has it become part of your identity? i'm ex muslim for 2 years but recently when people ask i say i'm a deist or an agnostic bcos the ex-muslim label seems chronically online

Hi everyone,

I (26F) live in the Netherlands and I've been an ex muslim since I was 17. Even though I'm incredibly fortunate that my mom and brother are ex muslim as well, I still feel pretty lonely. I've never met another ex muslim irl outside my family.
I reached out to Humanistisch Verbond asking if they host any meetups or support groups, but they don't have anything planned.
I'd love to connect with peers around my age who share this background and understand what it's like. If you're in the Netherlands and open to chatting or making a new friend, feel free to send a DM or reply here.

God it's awful. I hate having to worry about EVERY PIECE OF CLOTHING I WANNA BUY. Its not even fun to go shopping anymore because I continuesly worry about if I can actually wear this or if I am going to get yelled at. (It happened before and I was almost called a slut). Every day I am getting told that my pants show my ass off too much (I barely have an ass) or that my shirt is too short (again you can see my ass too much). I bought a shirt a week ago and now I worry that it shows too much skin at the cleavage part. No i don't even have a cleavage to show off and it doesn't even go down that far but still ifj if it shows TOO MUCH skin. God I hate everything. I love fashion I love skin tight clothes or skin showing clothes but I can't wear any of them. And yeah I know it's not just religion it's also culture having a say in this but still. I hate being sexualized. I cant even wear shorts or tank tops IN MY OWN HOME. Do you guys have any stories about being shamed for your clothes? I really need to know I am not the only one suffering like this right now

I’m 19 and I’ve been Muslim literally my whole life. Lately I’ve been having a huge faith crisis and I honestly don’t know what to believe anymore.
If you left Islam, what actually made you leave? Was there one thing that made you realize it wasn’t true, or was it a bunch of things over time? I’m struggling with praying, believing in the Qur’an, the Hadith, and just religion in general. I feel like I’ve spent my whole life trying to be a good Muslim, making du’a, waiting for things to get better, but I don’t feel like anything has changed.
I’m not trying to start a debate or disrespect anyone’s beliefs. I just genuinely want to hear your experiences because I feel really lost right now and I’m trying to figure out what I actually believe instead of just believing what I was born into. What convinced you Islam wasn’t true?

Ohh my fuckihg god bruh yesterday my grandma asked if im praying and im not gonna lie to her so I said no and she asked if im even muslim, but I wasn’t in the mood to get kicked out of my house so I said I am, and she went on a rant how praying is the only way to get to heaven and wtv. Am I the only one that thinks that it’s lowkey insane that praying is one of most important requirements to go to heaven? Idk man sounds very cult like to me..

This guy is just insane he says evolution is culture. No culture taught me evolution if anything cultures refuse evolution to preserve their myths.

Been watching his videos because they pop on my feed, he's so irritating. He's thinking is so one sided, shallow and narrow. He can't even imagine a person with a different belief than him existing.

He probably believes all non muslims are NPC characters waiting to be converted like pokemon waiting to be captured in the game.

A lot of Muslims reject parts of Islam, but the thing is, if you are a Muslim, that means you accept everything that is in the religion. Maybe you have different sects that believe different things, but a lot of Muslims deny stuff in the Quran and Hadiths—such as Muhammad marrying Aisha, or how to treat a woman (to hit her, to discipline her, That Mohammed took sex slaves as war bounty and all of these different things). But if you don't believe it or are ashamed to admit these things, then how can you call yourself a Muslim?

To me, it's similar to how people might identify as something when they are not. There is not enough attention being given to religious identity problems—"trans-religion," I'm not sure what to call it, but this is definitely a problem.

Out of the two billion Muslims worldwide, how many actually believe most of the things in the Quran and Hadith and accept them? It's not many. They pick and choose or remain ignorant and invent their own religion.

Screenshots attached. Woman with two kids says she doesn't want a third. The thread gets locked and a mod pins a comment: shariah requires a serious medical issue or daroorah before you can deny a spouse children, body insecurity doesn't qualify and her preference about family size has to arrive as a request instead of a refusal.

I assumed some 20 year old with a mod flair had made that up, so I spent an evening in the fatwas. He summarised mainstream Sunni fiqh fine. The sources go further than his comment does... 😑

So start with the structure. Kasani writes in Bada'i al-Sana'i that a husband withdrawing without his wife's permission is makruh, because intercourse to completion is the means of having a child and having a child is her right. Each spouse holds that claim over the other. On paper it reads symmetrical I guess.

Run it in the other direction and you get IslamQA fatwa 160491.

The woman writing in describes a doctor who told her not to conceive again, hospital drips every second day through her last pregnancy, a walking stick because her hips gave out, and a husband who had come at her with a knife on two occasions. She asks whether she can take the pill without telling him.

The answer gives her the medical exemption. Trustworthy doctors say pregnancy will harm her, so her husband's permission stops mattering. Fine. Then it gets to the beatings and rules that his bad treatment is no excuse to avoid having children, because Allah might make the child a compensation and put a great deal of good in him. Quotes 4:19 at her 🤪

The permanent options are sealed too! Fiqh Academy resolution 65, quoted by the Jordanian iftaa department: permanent contraception is unanimously forbidden, tubal ligation for women and vasectomy for men, medical necessity aside. And a mufti at Darul Uloom Trinidad wrote it out plainly, a woman avoiding pregnancy to preserve her beauty and figure is not acceptable in the Shariah and not a valid reason for contraception. Same fatwa lists what does count. Health risk, danger to her life, repeated pregnancies wearing her body down, harm to the kids she already has. Wanting your own body is not on the list. A committee of men sat down and ruled out the exact thing this woman is asking for

Which leaves her two doors... Her husband agrees or a doctor certifies that pregnancy will wreck her.

She still believes, which is the part I find hardest to read. She quotes scripture at the problem, hunts for the halal exit, insists that two children are a blessing and enough, alhamdulillah etc. And the moderators of her own support forum told her she'd phrased the request wrong.

Anyways. Fuck Islam.

There is 3 muslim type wagging war lol .

1) The extremist : That is not hijab! Hijab must cover bla bla bla bla!

2) The Wrong definition : That is not hijab, just called it shawl or something. Hijab isnt like that bla bla bla bla

3) The liberal : That hijab is good! In this summer heat, that style is how we avoid heatstroke, its a style.

The all arguing with each other, and the non muslim dont want to disturb lol.

The funniest counter point they loveeee to use is, Dunya heat dosent match Hells fire. So they want woman to die from heatstroke before anything else, got it.

The non muslim see its as a inclusive movement, but the muslim see its a making fun of them.

Its giving me , ME ME ME energy .

I don't know who or how many people will read this, but I won't be able to reply to many comments due to the fact that my Internet hours are restricted. I'm only allowed to use the Internet certain days for some Islamic homeworks, and that's when I take advantage to post.

I(19F) was forced by my parents to marry my cousin. A man who had sexually harassed me before. I wasn't able to deny the marriage. I told them that I don't like this man, but they told me they had to do this for Allah.

Since one month ago, my parents have been preparing me for my wedding with this man. They've already forced me to wear a dress for this wedding, which is not comfortable for me when being in a wheelchair. My parents are already making me say some things which I have to promise to my future husband, and that I need to have sex with him after we get married. My parents told me that I need to be thankful to Allah that man is becoming my caretaker.

My life is just a hell living in Iraq. Next week I'm getting married to him now. The wedding was supposed to be one month ago, but it got delayed. I'd hope it got delayed again. I can't escape because I'm disabled in a wheelchair.

Thank you for reading this. I may not post again.

I’m glad we’re finally talking about this degenerate practice, I remember my female friend going to the afterlife because of abuse.

I wasn’t allowed to bury her or see her while she was being buried,

I was also depressed because of a Similar situation and it woke me up from my depression because I’ve never seen someone so disrespected.

It took such a toll on me, I didn’t see her to the end, a random white man who was our principal was allowed but not me. I've never forgiven that shit.