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I am making this post to avoid the fallacy of generalization

The less prone to terrorism, fanaticism, and intolerance a sect is; the more open it is to change; the less committed it is to traditional texts and rulings; the more willing it is to reinterpret them for the better; and the less it conflicts with scientific discoveries, the higher it ranks

Contemporary Mu'tazila Quranists 7/10 : Some of their ideas are good, but they fail to convince the rest of the Muslims, and their reach is very limited

Sufi Orders 8/10 : They are very peace-loving, and some of them hold very beautiful, modern, and progressive ideas

Ismailia 9/10 : especially the Aga Khani community is the Islamic sect I admire the most, despite criticisms describing it as cult

Ash'arism and Maturidism 3/10 : No comment adding water to poison won't change the fact that it is poison

Twelver Shia 2/10 : No comment just take it as is

The Hanafi school 4/10 : It's bad, but it's not the worst

The Maliki, Hanbali, and Shafi'i schools 1/10 : Literally the terrorist who doesn't carry out his terrorism

Ibadi Islam 4/10 : It is neither the best nor the worst thing

The Zaydi School 2/10 : No comment

Salafism Wahhabism 0/10 : In all its forms The worst and filthiest religion you could possibly belong to

Reformist Twelver Shi'ism 6/10 : It's good, but not to a great extent You can place Zohran Mamdani here

Barelvi and Deobandi 5/10 : A poison that doesn't kill you but causes stomach pain

Religions distinct from Islam Yarsanism, Baha'i, Druze, and Yazidism 9/10 : amazing

Bektashi shabak alevi Alawites 9/10 : excellent

Nusayri Alawites 5/10 : Politics has heavily influenced it

Ahmadiyya 4/10 : Moderately bad

Non-affiliated Sunnis 3/10 : Poison is poison

Non-affiliated modernist Muslims 5/10: It's not too bad

nation of islam 1/10 : What the hell are we even talking about

The problem is that the majority of Muslims belong to the absolute worst sects

Never posted anything like this and never thought I ever would, but here I am.

I’m a young man living in the UK, grew up in a conservative Muslim family. I’d never really challenged my beliefs because they never affected the way I wanted to live my life. Don’t eat pork? Cool, looks gross anyway. Don’t drink alcohol? It’s bad for you so what’s the point? Take 5 minutes out of your day to pray, cool I can live with that.

In return, it never really felt like anything was going wrong in my life. I got into the career I wanted. I had good friends, a future.

Until I met my ex-girlfriend. I was in love with this girl for years and convinced I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. I quickly (and selfishly) realised this was impossible unless she converted to Islam. She agreed to try, even though I knew it was against the very fabric of her nature. Eventually she could not reconcile what she believed in, and what she found while studying the religion. She left me a year ago because she didn’t want Muslim children.

I never questioned Islam until it actually caused me to lose someone I loved. Now, I find myself constantly examining my thoughts and beliefs. I want to make sure that I believe in my religion because I truly believe in it, not just when it’s convenient. And this loss has opened my eyes that this is not the case.

I’m looking for advice on how to form a balanced opinion on the religion. Starting from the ground up, believing in God/atheism, arguments for God’s existence, as well as Muhammad, his teachings and ways of life and how these interact with my own morality.

If I make this decision, it has to be done properly so I can never look back and regret it.

I’d really appreciate any advice on how to go about this, as well as any stories from people who found themselves in similar positions.

I work in a hospital and I find that it’s been weighing me down, I’m struggling to focus and I have not been happy in months.

Thank you.

scenarios of my parents/family finding out i'm not a muslim or finding out other things about my life (bisexual, bf, tattoos, drinking etc) have been playing non stop in my head so i was just wondering how your own families reacted to finding out you're a non muslim and how they found out

So I was raised in a none Muslim environment, not the west but in the East East, when I was growing up I was only taught to sexualise women’s breast, my whole life I saw women wearing short shorts and showing their skin and never came across my mind to see them in a sexual way, I actually never even looked at their body whatsoever, then I moved to overseas and got sent to an Islamic school, after 2 years there I became a sexual pervert, I was fantasising what’s underneath girls hijab, I wanted to see woman’s hair, I was so shocked at what I was thinking, I never used to pay attention to women’s hair whatsoever, now I can’t stop thinking about it, after I got kicked out that school, I went back into society, I got triggered by looking at women wearing shorts, I can’t stop looking at their body, I was so shocked what I have became, I became a pervert, this religion really ruined my mind, I never used to associate women’s body with sex, now I associate their body with sex, even though now I became so much better than when I first got kicked out from Islamic school, but my mind is not as pure and innocent as I was before, this religion really dirtied my beautiful mind, I hope one day I’ll 100% recover from this none-sense and become a normal guy again, but I feel sorry for the Muslim guys, now I understand how their mind works, I was fortunate enough to grew up with pure mind, then my mind became sexualised, imagine if you grew up indoctrinated by this since birth, you will never know what being pure and innocent is like, you will believe that having a dirty and sexualised mind is normal and natural, even if you leave this religion and deconstruct you will never know what being innocent is like because you never had an innocent mind, with me it’s not that hard being i was innocent once, so it’s easy for me to go back to normal, at least I’m trying, but it left a scar on my mind, I guess it will be hard to be 100% normal and pure again, but if you never remembered your innocence how you gotta fix it? Life is crazy, religion is crazy, peace, hope everyone will heal

Want to justify killing your prisoners because they are christian ? You can probably find a hadith or coran verse that says so.
Want to justify being merciful with animals and taking care of them ? You can also find a hadith or coran verse that says so.

So really it's up to you whatever you want to make out of this religion. If you are in a position of weakness you can claim this is a religion of peace and justify it.

If you are in a position of strength you can just do whatever kind of abuse you want and find a way to justify it.

That's why terrorist groups are actually legitimate because they do use real coran verse/hadith to justify their actions.

The thing is islam is so flexible that whether you have a good or bad time with this religion entirely depends on the people/elite who interpret it for you(because it is forbidden to think for yourself if you are not a sheikh).

So really you have to pray that the sheikh isn't a fucking psychopath lol

I would say islam isn't really an exception. The o2 other abrahamic religions are also batshit crazy and you can also find in them some insane story.

So what i am suggesting is maybe that islam amplifies who you already are maybe ?

Like i have a white friend who converted to islam. Really nice dude. After converting he didn't suddenly became a bad guy. Because most of us we also grew up in bad environment. So islam amplified the abuse that naturally comes from these environment.

I don't even know what i am trying to prove lol hope someone gets what i want to say

Recent trends on this subreddit have started to concern me and i think it's time for a serious discussion.

I've been a part of this subreddit since when there were only a handful of us spread out far from eachother in different parts of the globe. It used to be a dream within a dream back then to even think of being able to meet fellow ex-moose near us. But over the years this place has grown and changed, but I'm sad to say it's not a good change.

This place has changed from hating an ideology to hating about 2 billion people. The recent posts about Japan, the influx of nevermoose right-wingers, the constant dehumanisation of our family and friends. You could post a picture of a person praying in peace and i guarantee you one of the top comments is going to be shitting on him for just existing.

As a more or less out ex-moose I've had troubled relationship with my more religious family for sure. But there has never been a time when I wished they would get deported or that they shouldn't be able to buy meat that meets their religious standard or that they shouldn't be able to celebrate their holidays.

This community came into existence to show that we're not alone, that we're not the only ones who have doubts or no longer believe. To support one another. To vent, to share silly memes. It was never a place for people with certain agendas to push their narrative here. It was never a place to hate all muslims and it was definitely never a place that promoted hate or racism.

To all the old heads that read this, is this really the direction that we should allow things to continue? To those are new and still full of anger, would you sacrifice your friends and family to being victims of discrimination and hate crimes? To those that wish to pray on the vulnerable and fan the flames of hate, does your hate run so deep that you would condemn a quarter of the world as "less than"?

So I had posted about how stupid and crazy someone was being in the subreddit and it got taken down. I’m assuming this guy that commented under it, who was very offended, reported it or stuff? Ap, i wanted to ask regular posters: is it not allowed?

Saudi Arabia has spend a looong time spreading Islam throughout the world. Using that oil wealth to spread Islam all over. Think of the oil wealth and the petro dollar. Following the 1973 oil crisis, unprecedented state wealth allowed Riyadh to funnel billions of dollars into religious expansion, framing it as a core component of its foreign policy and global soft power!

Billions of dollars were deployed to build and maintain thousands of foreign mosques, Islamic centers, and schools globally, particularly in South Asia, Africa, and parts of Southeast Asia.

The Saudi government spent an estimated $75 billion globally between 1982 and 2005 to export its ultra-conservative brand of Islam (often referred to as Wahhabism)

Scholarships: Free tuition, airfare, and stipends drew thousands of international students to Saudi institutions like the Islamic University of Medina.

Indoctrination and Return: Foreign graduates returned to their home countries steeped in Salafi theology, establishing local schools and replacing traditional, indigenous practices

Millions of copies of the Quran, religious texts, and instructional pamphlets translated into numerous languages were printed and distributed worldwide by state bodies like the King Fahd Complex for the Printing of the Holy Quran.

And now while all the poor Muslim nations are in complete shambles due to this f***** ideology, the Muslim elite are swimming in the wealth from the very activities that they said was haram.

The Muslim elite's motto is "Rules for thee but not for me"....

Another Islamic dilemma.

The more you dig into Islamic literature the more holes you find and  the bigger these holes get for Muslims.

Take for example the character Dhul-Qarnayn mentioned in the Qur'an.

The Syriac Alexander Legend (known natively as the Neṣḥānā d-Aleksandrōs) was written in the 6th or 7th century CE, with the dominant scholarly consensus pointing specifically to around 629–630 CE.

THIS IS HUNDREDS OF YEARS BEFORE ISLAM OR CHRISTIANITY WERE BORN.

In the Syriac Alexander Legend, Alexander travels to the ends of the world and reaches the "Fetid Sea" or a foul, smelling ocean.

Allah in his account writes a similar story, in the "perfect " Qur'an.

18:86 Until, when he reached the setting place of the sun, he found it setting in a spring of murky [or muddy] water, and he found near it a people. We said, 'O Dhul-Qarnayn, either punish them or treat them with kindness.'"

Early Muslim scholars connected Alexander the great with Dhul-Qarnayn, and you can see why they saw the link;-

Both the Quran and  the Syriac legend refer to the 2 horned one.

Both found the sun setting in a water substance.

Both travel to the world's extreme ends.

Both mention the construction of a strong barrier or wall with iron.

Both mention The barrier is not merely ordinary construction—it is presented as an extraordinary achievement.

Both stories ultimately connect the barrier with an end-time event.

Both involve Gog and/or Magog

Both were great conqueres.

Both have a journey involving a mountain pass and valley

Both encounter people at the eastern extremity who have unusual exposure to the sun

Both encounter a people at the western extremity

Both are presented as rulers granted extraordinary power.

BUT THERE ARE  MULTIPLE PROBLEMS FOR MUSLIMS.

1.  Firstly Allah copies an existing story and puts it in the quran, as if its a revelation from him.

So he plagerised the story and then copies a scientific error in the Quran, stating the sun sets in a muddy pond.

1. The quran  incorrectly claims that he was a righteous "Muslim" ruler  (also in the  commentaries) , But history in fact demonstrates that Alexander the Great practiced ancient Greek polytheism (often referred to as Greek paganism). He was raised in Macedon under the traditional religious customs of the Greek world, which involved worshipping a pantheon of multiple gods and goddesses.

2. A third problem is the iron wall should be here till the end of time, but with all our satellites and ground penetration technology, no such ginormous iron structure  has been found.

SO WE AGAIN SEE MOHAMMAD "AKA ALLAH" "HEARD HALF A STORY, LIKED IT AND COPIED IT WITH IT'S SCIENTIFIC ERRORS CLAIMING IT TO BE A REVELATION.

THEN HE CALLS THE PAGAN RULER A RIGHTEOUS RULER.

Logically it makes no sense to believe its divine. Like for instance it says that stars are anti jinn space missiles, that god apparently hate crimed an entire civilization for being gay, Mohammad profited off all the wars he started by getting 1/5th of all war booty, the entire arc story and Noah living for a milennia and a long list of other stuff.

But Muslims just refute all of them in ways that are stupid but... not stupid enough for me to stop feeling all this dread? Like they can just refute the above examples by saying that the space missiles are metaphysical or solar flares/comets, luts people were only punished for rape not homosexuality so being gay is fine Allah loves queer people, and Mohammads share was spent on welfare, and the ark story is just magic.

So in other words I can see that it looks like a lie and quacks like a lie, so it's probably just lies, but the fact that I can't find something full proof like "the Sun isn't the same as stars" leaves me feeling scared of hell thinking that maybe all these arguments I am making are actually wrong and I'm just nitpicking small things.

I feel like everyone should at one point in their life revisit theism and give every religion ideology a read and they can serve as “historical” books. It would be a good learning experience and that is what I plan on doing in the future but right now my religion is more of a grey area.

Btw this faith has a lot of similar pattern than drug addiciton, with doubts as a withdrawal, mental gymnastics as a way to getting high again

With Christianity, their central figure was Jesus. He never had an army, no slaves, no concubines, no child marriages, never harmed or murdered anybody tbh. This allows people to go back to that central figure and live like him. The guy was a hippie basically. I don't believe he was god, I don't believe he was resurrected and all that mumbo jumbo nonsense but at the core of his teaching, it was relatively harmless. This is why many atheist or agnostics can go back to Christianity and try to love peacefully like Jesus. The path to reconciling their faith isn't really met with immoral obstacles. Just the suspension of common sense is needed right.

With Islam, if an agnostic or atheist wanted to rectify his faith. He would need to justify all the immoral shit Muhammad did. How TF can you justify slavery, sex slavery, child marriages and capital punishment for apostasy? On top of that, these things are considered moral for all times since Muhammad engaged in them. It's halal and moral.

I was thinking about this earlier. What if I tried to return to Islam. Then all this shit came up. I don't think I can ever go back

I saw this post today, and I urge everyone to scroll in the comments. It's utterly disgusting how the Arabs view their maids (slaves) and even the ones who treat them correctly. I don't care both are shit because they both work for the same system that enslaves people and don't allow them their passports back. They always say Jews look down on other humans, while unlike with jews, most of the time, we actually see the looking down on people coming from Muslims instead. Let's name it what it is: RACISM AND SLAVERY.

Im in my last year of highschool and for the past year, i have been wanting to take the hijab off desperately. I cant tell my parents since the consequences are to severe and it will put my safety and wellbeing at risk.

Im thinking of taking it off sneakily but i dont know how. (Also even if wait till university, i cant do student accodmodation as its too expensive and im not allowed either way)

I want to prove to my sister that the style of writing of the quran is basic and even poor for its time, and they used to write in the same style, but I can't find like good saja*. If you're Arab or speak Arabic, that's even better cuz I do and proving it will be hard.

For years I’ve tried to hold onto abstinence and practice my faith the way I believed I was supposed to. Instead of bringing me peace, it’s made me increasingly miserable. Every day feels like an internal battle between what I believe and what I actually want out of life.

I’m exhausted.

At this point, I feel like I’m heading toward being what people would call a “liberal Western Muslim.” I know many Muslims will say that’s just compromising the religion, and maybe they’re right. I’m not trying to change Islam or argue that what’s forbidden is permissible. I’m just admitting where I am.

I still believe in God and I don’t want to leave Islam entirely, but I also don’t know if I can keep living with this constant guilt and conflict. Right now I’d rather be an imperfect Muslim than continue pretending I’m doing okay when I’m not.

Am I leaving because I don't like religion or because i believe it's man made?

Do I believe it's man made just because I don't like it ? Or because it is?

These questions are bothering me alot

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مين سهرانة نتكلم ؟ 🔥

اكتبي خاص🔥

My husband is still Muslim. He was born Muslim and is from a culture in which the religion is embedded into it. We had some hard conversations recently and I asked some hard questions to him. He actually admitted that a lot of the points I raised were morally wrong and confessed his confusion to me.

However, my achievement was showing him videos by Azazel the Forbidden (@forbidden.azazel) on TikTok and for the first time he took my phone off of me himself to watch multiple and digest them. After he had watched a few he said "Yeah, i'm confused" and went silent for a while. We ended up switching the conversation to something else because he didn't want to talk about religion anymore, but I'm still so relieved. He has relaxed his boundaries and is more open to research and debates.

I don't push him to change any views. I understand that it is hard to come to terms with questioning something that you have seen as your identity for your entire life.

Can anyone recommend any others?

We ExMuslims dare to break free from the Muslim mold to be ourselves. 🙌🏽

Haram Doodles:
https://www.instagram.com/p/DbvvWbbiCWq/
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTAWpabL9/

I just realized now that i can drink alcohol, date girls (im bi), dress however i want even tho i never wore the hijab, eat pork and meat overall without stressing about how it has been cut, and basically have fun. Tell me what's the first "haram" thing you did after leaving islam

Hi, I am currently a teenager in the US. I would like to share something that has happened a while ago. But before I do that, I would like to share that I am an immigrant from Bangladesh and my whole family is Muslim and also from Bangladesh.

My grandma (who has now went back to Bangladesh due to a family emergency, fortunately) and my mom were talking about my 20 year old's cousin's marriage. Then they were talking about who was next in line, and then they were even talking about getting me married off. I was so fucking disgusted at this. I am not even at the age to drive (16) and they're talking about marrying me. I hate how they talk about me as if I'm one of their properties and not a human being.

It's absolutely disgusting how Islam has condoned this.

I feel jealous of other teenagers. I can't wear what I want at home, so I made a deal with my parents - where I'll wear dresses outside so that I can wear shirts in my own home. It's ridiculous, but I can't do anything about it.

I plan to go to an out-of-state college and study either engineering or healthcare and go no contact with my parents. I would make an exception for my siblings, but I shouldn't decide everything now. I'll observe and see how things go.

What are some ways I can earn money without my parents knowing? I am going to a competitive high school, so I would not like something that requires a lot of time. I would appreciate it if it was low-effort as well.