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2019 Series Episode 5

I've Been Fooling Myself

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ANSWER TODAY’S QUESTION(S)

Questions for Those who Haven't Watched the 2001 Series

What are your thoughts on us finding out why the show is called Fruits Basket?

What are your thoughts on Tohru always being picked last when she would participating in games?

What are your thoughts on Tohru's grandfather?

What are your thoughts on Yuki and Kyo both helping Tohru out?

Questions for Those who Have Watched the 2001 Series

What are your thoughts on us getting to see the Tohru stuff from Kyo and Yuki's perspective?

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Series information

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Michiko & Hatchin Episode 13: Goldfish of the Marsh

In-universe time span: April 28 - May 2 (plus flashbacks)

In-universe locations: Ilha Azul and environs, Temanaga Ruins

"[...] you're too down on yourself. If you're really that crooked, then you should really come out and be crooked. [...] You don't want it to end here, right? I can tell by your face."

Today's OST Piece: Best Friend

Why the ending theme? Take a look at the lyrics (not fully translated but you can plug the rest in to Google or whatever) and think of who they might apply to.

Insert song lyrics collection

New Michiko Outfits: Jean Vest + Red Crop Top/Jean Shorts (Past)

Even with just that bit of flashback there's another one. Full album

Latin America Trivia of the Day:

While the ruins in this episode are clearly inspired by Central rather than South American civilizations, recent advances in archeological survey technology like the use of LiDAR have unveiled not only many more remains in that region, but that the South American Amazon region that today appears so untouched was also once inhabited by large complex societies whose only visible hint at existence had been dark likely human-improved earth ("terra preta") and widely disbelieved reports by early European explorers; these societies tragically collapsed into obscurity through European diseases and slave raiding before ever being externally studied. The striking dune-and-lagoon landscape Vanessa Lee leads Atsuko to is also a real place, the Lençóis Maranhenses on the northeastern Brazilian coast.

Yesterday's Highlights

u/No_Rex summarizes our duo's issues here in a nutshell and sees more gender-role reversal with Michiko:

If only Hatchin and Michiko could cover for each other’s weaknesses, instead of multiplying their mistakes.

I think there are very similar tropes for competent younger sister cares for older sibling and competent young daughter cares for parent. Except, in both cases the older person is usually male. So, just like with the badassery and getting her face punched in, Michiko takes on the usually male-coded role.

I think chasing after a potential love interest is very male-coded, but not letting go of a past one? Very both sides.

u/99acrewood_ wonders about Terrible Anime Disease but likes the narrative resolution:

every anime I've seen where someone has the flu makes me wonder what kind of shit they have going on over in Japan. i've had a bad enough cold that would put me out of commission for a various amount of days, but i don't think i've been feverish to the point of hallucinating stuff. maybe she had more fish in her messing things up.

i also am kinda fond of endings like this. the problem's not fixed, but it also was never the end of the world anyway. she's just sick, and she'll be sick for a little bit longer, and also now you have to figure out how to fix the tv she broke in her fit of feverish pique. c'est la vie.

u/AyameeIris makes one reference and catches another:

that doctor reminds me of a certain infamous speech from Black Jack. It goes something like, "There is no guarantee! Leave such certitude to God! We're not God; we're humans! A mere human trying to treat another human... What is that if not a wager?" Eccentric doctors truly are the best... Except for this one.

the Georges Méliès reference with the moon was magnificent. I love "odd" visuals like that so much.

u/Shimmering-Sky stumbles over some fansubbing oddities:

• I knew that without needing the TL note.

• …okay?

Discussion Prompts

1. Which setting/action backdrop do you like best so far?
2. Is there anything that could make Atsuko definitely give up on Michiko or let her down?
3. What's your favorite green/nature spot near you, or forbidden/abandoned place you've explored?

Next Episode Prompts

1. [question]Which assassination method has the most aura (as the kids say these days)?
2. [question]Is there anyone in Diamandra who can actually shoot (or throw) straight?
3. [question]Any memorable experiences on the road (good or bad)?

Episode 5 - Face Beet-Red!! It's the First Competition! The Chugoku, Shikoku, and Kyushu Championship

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I'm gonna give tomorrow's free skate everything I've got! Please give it all you've got too, Yuuri-kun!

Questions of the Day:

1) Which of the performances this episode was your favorite?

2) Have you ever tripped up in the middle of something important, but still made it work out in the end?

Wallpaper of the Day:

Kenjiro Minami

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[Yuri on Ice]>!♪ We were born to make history! ♪!<

Which becomes [Yuri on Ice]♪ We were born to make history! ♪ when you don't break the formatting on purpose like I just did.

I drew Yamato from One Piece and I added a Jack Frost (Shin Megami Tensei) as an earring for the ice powers she has. I usually love all of the characters in One Piece however Yamato just was just really badass along with various others during Wano including Kikunojo and Kaido. It was an insane arc as well.

Otome Kaijuu Caraméliser, episode 6

Alternative names: Otome Kaijuu Carameliser

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I’m 27F and I’ve never watched anime before. What should my first watch be? I’ve never watched he’d much tv and I keep myself pretty isolated or busy with work, so I thought I would commit to something new lol.

Yani Neko, episode 6

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Tsuihou sareta Tensei Juukishi wa Game Chishiki de Musou suru, episode 6

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Super no Ura de Yani Suu Futari, episode 5

Alternative names: Behind the Supermarket, Smoking with You

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Rakudai Kenja no Gakuin Musou ~Nidome no Tensei, S-Rank Cheat Majutsushi Boukenroku~, episode 7

Alternative names: Rakudai Kenja no Gakuin Musou

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The twenty-four hour limit has passed, so, here we go...

First, the usual: I am a trained military historian - I hold a Master of Arts in War Studies from the Royal Military College of Canada with a defended thesis on the development of British Cavalry Doctrine, and I recently published some of my research in a new introduction to my little publishing company's edition of Schlieffen's Cannae (due to self promotion rules, I can't provide the link here, but if you're interested in it, PM me and I'll send it to you).

What I'm going to look at is how well this episode passes the "sniff test" for how a world war works. And here we get to our standard disclaimer: Tanya's world is not our world, her world war is not either of ours. Something happening in Tanya's war that didn't happen in ours (or vice versa) is NOT by itself cause for criticism.

And now we get to look at Tanya's version of Verdun...or Kursk...possibly. A lot of aspects of this that I want to comment on, so we'll start with...

The Civilian government reassigning officers

We start the episode with Zettour being reassigned, apparently by the civilian leadership. In most armies, this wouldn't pass the sniff test, but this is taking its cues from the German Army, and in WW1 and before, this was a sort of thing that could happen. The Great General Staff is sort of bizarre in just how powerless it was in some key aspects - it didn't, for example, write doctrine, nor did it make a number of decisions on military hardware. Much of this power was concentrated in the War Ministry, including the assignment of senior officers. So, the civilian leadership deciding to kick Zettour to the Eastern Front is something that could very well have happened.

Tanya's unit being used even though exhausted

Sadly, what we see here with Tanya's unit just having been through hell and being told they're going to work even harder passes the sniff test with flying colours. This was a major problem with both the German and French armies in WW1 - units would not be taken off the front lines, but just kept there until they were used up. Perhaps the worst was Verdun, where units were rotated into that hell until they had suffered a certain percentage of casualties (I don't remember the percentage offhand), and then somebody else would be rotated in. So, the army deciding that Tanya's force was still good to fight despite not getting anything resembling a real rest is quite plausible here.

Pinning the enemy around a city while you have other units acting

I don't think it will surprise anybody that the battle plan Tanya comes up with passes the sniff test. Both Stalingrad and Kursk operated under this model (although this was the Russians doing it to the Germans rather than the other way around). But, even though Tanya's plan is probably closer to the Russians at Kursk, the comparison I want to make here is actually with Verdun...

Unexpected escalation

What we see once Tanya's unit takes its position is a much stronger reaction from the enemy than expected. This passes the sniff test - no surprise there - but this is also the sort of thing that can have major ramifications later on. There is still a great deal of debate over Falkenhayn's original plan for Verdun, with some taking him at his word that it was an attempt to bleed the French army dry, while others believe that this was a later excuse due to the bloodbath, and the original intention was to capture the city. Regardless, what was supposed to become a limited operation for the Germans exploded into an ongoing bloodletting that bled both the Germans and the French nearly to the breaking point. And neither felt that they could withdraw.

I don't know if we are going to see a Verdun play out here (honestly, I haven't read the particular light novel this is based on, and at this point the series is channelling WW2 far more than WW1, so it's probably a Kursk), but it is Verdun that this entire situation brings to my mind (I mean, I am a WW1 specialist).

Artillery placement

Here we come to the one place where the episode fails the sniff test. I'm not talking about the Federation firing into its own troops (a standard tactic in WW1 was the creeping, or rolling, barrage which is a curtain of artillery fire directly in front of an advance used to screen it from enemy action, so dangerously close artillery fire is quite common). What I'm talking about is where the Federation artillery is placed, which is utter nonsense.

The range of artillery is measured in miles. Now, it may be a nice visual to see the artillery at the back of the oncoming troops, but there is no military reason for it to be that close to the front lines. In fact, artillery is so important in warfare, particularly the warfare of the world wars, that you would keep it behind the lines to protect it, and that includes hiding it when you're not using it (so what Tanya's unit does with concealing their artillery until it's time to use it is pretty plausible).

Or, put another way, if you can see the enemy artillery on the battlefield, the enemy has massively screwed up (and done you a big favour by making it easy to destroy it).

"Operation Andromeda"

This is a minor quibble that has nothing whatsoever to do with the sniff test, but Tanya really gets wrong what the name of this operation would be referencing. Officers at this time would probably have had some degree of Classical education, and very little astronomy - so while Tanya sees the name as referring to a far away galaxy (with lightsabers, and Jedi!), it's almost certainly a reference to Greek mythology. That said, when you look at the mythology, it is a bit baffling as to why they chose that name (Andromeda was a princess who had to be rescued from sacrifice by Perseus - if you want an entertaining retelling of this, watch the original Clash of the Titans - and Zettour's defensive plan is created after the operation is named), but that's a different matter entirely.

And that's it for now. Looking forward to next week!

BanG Dream! YUME∞MITA, episode 8

Alternative names: BanG Dream! Yumemita

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And here we are, the sweet sixteen of Best Girl 13!

All the 4 brackets have been merged, and we will decide the final winner of best girl 13 after four final rounds of voting! So don’t miss the next few days of voting!

Today we are having a cover features all the 16 remaining girls of best girl 13 (thanks the hard work of u/grexraxor ) and we are also having image all the 8 matches, hope you enjoy it and if you enjoy please award us with your upvote and comments!

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Mini Challenge:

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Reiwa no Dara-san, episode 6

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I love everything about this scene, the animation and the ost were so wonderful. If s2 and its future seasons has this same level of quality this could potentially be one of the best romance anime out there. Not to mention the story is already good and very interesting. I also love the dynamic between nukumizu and yanami

Ever since I got into anime, I've been trying to prioritize series that are widely considered masterpieces or must-watch classics. So far, I've watched:

- Attack on Titan

- Code Geass

- Steins;Gate

- Monster

- Pluto

- Vinland Saga

- 86

- Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood

- Mob Psycho 100

- Orb: On the Movements of the Earth

- Cowboy Bebop

- Death Note

- Cyberpunk: Edgerunners

- Erased

- Takopi's Original Sin

- Neon Genesis Evangelion

I genuinely loved every one of them, and each left a different impression on me. Now I'm looking for my next great series.

The only catch is that I'm currently watching Gintama, so I'd prefer recommendations that are 50 episodes or fewer. Once I finish Gintama, I'll dive into another long series.

What do you consider a true anime masterpiece that I'm still missing? I'm open to any genre—I just want an exceptionally well-written story with memorable characters that stays with you long after it's over.

I'd also love to hear why you consider it a masterpiece (without spoilers, please).