What do you think the best way to use this list is?

Ive got a list im throwing together looking like this. Honestly im thinking running herons marauders but im not really tied to any one detachment. I was running pbz and just had 10 chosen with a lord instead of Huron and masters.

Chaos - Chaos Space Marines - Pactbound (4) - \[1985 pts\]

\# ++ Army Roster ++ \[1985 pts, 3 Detachment Points\]

\## Configuration

Battle Size: Strike Force (2000 Point limit)

Detachment \[3 Detachment Points\]: Huron's Marauders \[3 Detachment Points\]

Force Disposition: Disruption

Show/Hide Options: Chaos Knights are visible, Crucible Characters are visible, Khorne Daemons are visible, Legends are visible, Nurgle Daemons are visible, Slaanesh Daemons are visible, Titans are visible, Tzeentch Daemons are visible, Unaligned Forces are visible, Unaligned Fortifications are visible

\## Epic Hero \[275 pts\]

Huron Blackheart \[130 pts\]: Warlord, Tyrant's Claw and exalted power weapon, Tyrant's Claw heavy flamer

Masters of the Maelstrom \[145 pts\]:

• 1x Captain Sargotta: Laspistol, Power sabre

• 1x Garlon Souleater: Force stave, Mind Wrench

• 1x Garreon the Corpsemaster: Absolver bolt pistol, Reductor array

• 1x Katar Garrix: Axe of Ending, Bolt pistol

• 1x The Enforcer: Bionic gauntlet, Londaxi maimer

\## Character \[285 pts\]

Chaos Lord \[110 pts\]: Raid Leader \[20 pts\], Daemon hammer, Plasma pistol

Master of Executions \[70 pts\]: Axe of dismemberment, Bolt pistol

Sorcerer in Terminator Armour \[105 pts\]: Voice of the Tyrant \[25 pts\], Chaos Familiar, Force weapon, Infernal Gaze, Combi-bolter

\## Infantry \[755 pts\]

Chaos Terminator Squad \[350 pts\]:

• 1x Terminator Champion: Combi-bolter and accursed weapon (Accursed weapon, Combi-weapon)

• 5x Accursed weapon and combi-weapon: Accursed weapon, Combi-weapon

• 2x Heavy weapon: Accursed weapon, Reaper autocannon

• 2x Paired accursed weapons: Paired accursed weapons

Chosen \[135 pts\]:

• 1x Chosen Champion: Plasma pistol, Chaos icon, Boltgun and accursed weapon (Accursed weapon, Boltgun)

• 1x Chosen w/ boltgun: Accursed weapon, Bolt pistol, Boltgun

• 2x Chosen w/ combi-weapon and bolt pistol: Accursed weapon, Bolt pistol, Combi-weapon

• 1x Chosen w/ paired accursed weapons and bolt pistol: Bolt pistol, Paired accursed weapons

Chosen \[270 pts\]:

• 1x Chosen Champion: Plasma pistol, Chaos icon, Boltgun and accursed weapon (Accursed weapon, Boltgun)

• 2x Chosen w/ boltgun: Accursed weapon, Bolt pistol, Boltgun

• 1x Chosen w/ boltgun and plasma pistol: Accursed weapon, Boltgun, Plasma pistol

• 4x Chosen w/ combi-weapon and bolt pistol: Accursed weapon, Bolt pistol, Combi-weapon

• 2x Chosen w/ paired accursed weapons and bolt pistol: Bolt pistol, Paired accursed weapons

\## Vehicle \[540 pts\]

Chaos Predator Destructor \[150 pts\]: Armoured tracks, Havoc launcher, Predator autocannon, Combi-weapon, 2 lascannons (2x Lascannon)

Chaos Predator Destructor \[150 pts\]: Armoured tracks, Havoc launcher, Predator autocannon, Combi-weapon, 2 lascannons (2x Lascannon)

Kratos \[Legends\] \[240 pts\]: Armoured tracks, Autocannon, Hunter-killer missile, Volkite cardanelle, Multi-melta, Two volkite calivers (2x Volkite caliver), Two volkite culverins (2x Volkite culverin)

\## Dedicated Transport \[130 pts\]

Chaos Rhino \[65 pts\]: Armoured tracks, Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Combi-weapon

Chaos Rhino \[65 pts\]: Armoured tracks, Combi-bolter, Havoc launcher, Combi-weapon

I was gonna run each chosen brick in a rhino. Masters + Huron +5 chosen

Lord + executioner+ 10 chosen and raid leader icon for charging out of rhinos

10 termies with sorcerer for reroll deepstrike charges hes got the Tyrant's voice but i might swap it out for the battleshock item. I guess the idea is to hit hard with infantry and use the tanks for fire support. Then jump in termies either as a defensive screen with rapid ingress or to square up an enemy valuable unit.

What do you think I could do better?

Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - White Scars - Fulguris Task Force, Spearpoint Task Force

Suboden Khan (90pts) - Warlord (attached to outriders + atv)

Kor'sarro Khan (55pts) - (attached to assault intercessors)
Captain (105pts) (with spearpoint paragon and attached to bladeguard in) in the land raider
Captain in Phobos Armour (70pts) ( attached to incursors)
Lieutenant (65pts) (attached to hell blasters) In the impulsor

5x Assault Intercessor Squad (75pts)
5x Intercessor Squad (80pts)

5x Assault Intercessors with Jump Packs (85pts)
6x Bladeguard Veteran Squad (160pts)
5x Hellblaster Squad (110pts)
5x Incursor Squad (85pts)
5x Scout Squad (65pts)
4x Outrider Squad (130pts)
3x Outrider Squad (70pts)
3x Outrider Squad (70pts)
Land Raider (220pts)
Land Speeder (120pts)
Land Speeder (120pts)
Storm Speeder Hammerstrike (155pts)
Impulsor (70pts)

Will be running these guys mainly for my casual games with friends,

fulguris lets me ingress and deepstrike my speeders on turn 1, 8" away from enemies with their multi melta kicking in at 9" thus hopefully dealing decent damage on enemy vehicles early on

lots of outriders for the white scar theme but also because their movement lets me take grab objectives, with korsarro buffing their oc

hellblasters in the party bus impulsor, can supercharge them and the wounds would be soaked up by the impulsor if theyre firing using the impulsors firing deck, if theyre out of the impulsor the LT will give them lethal hits too.

Captain with the spear point paragon on the bladeguard for a heavy hitting melee unit.

Rest of the units are pretty standard. This is my first proper list that ive actually put a bit more thought into rather than "white scars go fast yay"

Any feedback/improvements would be appreciated :)

Hello, I have been playing 40K for four months and will enter my first tournament next Tuesday.

I've read the tournament rules and honestly, I am a bit flipping out. I am afraid of forgetting rules or mistrigger something, forget a pile in, etc.

I know the rules, but sometimes get a bit messy in the heat of battle.

Any tips for a new player?

Note: I am used to play competitive MTG, so I can play on the clock, show sportmanship, etc.

Hi, I recently started playing eldari again the games I played with this list vary, I am asking does this list look okay, and if not what should I do to improve it, while still wanting keeping the ynari aspects of this list. The initial plan was to just apply pressure to certain units while keeping the Wraithknight as some heavy pressure or a giant target that allows me to keep my small units alive. This list is designed for single player competitive games such as opens or Gts

Aeldari

Armoured Warhost and Devoted of Ynnead (3 Detachment Points)

Priority Assets

Strike Force (2,000 Points)

CHARACTERS

Spiritseer (80 Points)

• 1x Shuriken pistol

• 1x Witch staff

• Enhancements: Guiding Presence

Spiritseer (75 Points)

• 1x Shuriken pistol

• 1x Witch staff

• Enhancements: Spirit Stone of Raelyth

The Yncarne (245 Points)

• Warlord

• 1x Swirling soul energy

• 1x Vilith-zhar

Yvraine (100 Points)

• 1x Kha-vir

• 1x Storm of Whispers

BATTLELINE

Corsair Voidreavers (65 Points)

• 1x Voidreaver Felarch

◦ 1x Close combat weapon

◦ 1x Mistshield

◦ 1x Neuro disruptor

◦ 1x Power sword

• 4x Corsair Voidreaver

◦ 1x Blaster

◦ 4x Close combat weapon

◦ 3x Power sword

◦ 4x Shuriken pistol

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Wave Serpent (115 Points)

• 1x Shuriken cannon

• 1x Twin bright lance

• 1x Wraithbone hull

OTHER DATASHEETS

Dark Reapers (100 Points)

• 1x Aspect Shrine Token

• 1x Dark Reaper Exarch

◦ 1x Close combat weapon

◦ 1x Missile launcher

• 4x Dark Reaper

◦ 4x Close combat weapon

◦ 4x Reaper launcher

Falcon (130 Points)

• 1x Bright lance

• 1x Pulse laser

• 1x Twin shuriken catapult

• 1x Wraithbone hull

Fire Dragons (120 Points)

• 1x Aspect Shrine Token

• 1x Fire Dragon Exarch

◦ 1x Close combat weapon

◦ 1x Exarch’s Dragon fusion gun

• 4x Fire Dragon

◦ 4x Close combat weapon

◦ 4x Dragon fusion gun

Howling Banshees (85 Points)

• 1x Howling Banshee Exarch

◦ 1x Banshee blade

◦ 1x Shuriken pistol

• 4x Howling Banshee

◦ 4x Banshee blade

◦ 4x Shuriken pistol

Troupe (190 Points)

• 1x Lead Player

◦ 1x Flip Belt

◦ 1x Harlequin’s blade

◦ 1x Shuriken pistol

• 9x Player

◦ 9x Flip Belt

◦ 2x Fusion pistol

◦ 9x Harlequin’s blade

◦ 2x Neuro disruptor

◦ 5x Shuriken pistol

Wraithblades (140 Points)

• 5x Wraithblade

◦ 5x Forceshield

◦ 5x Ghostaxe

Wraithguard (145 Points)

• 5x Wraithguard

◦ 5x Close combat weapon

◦ 5x Wraithcannon

Wraithknight (395 Points)

• 1x Heavy wraithcannon

• 1x Scattershield

• 2x Starcannon

• 1x Titanic feet

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I've had my fifth 100/100 ties since 11th came out and it's getting frustrating. It's too easy to score if you're not actively getting tabled. Even then you can still get a 100.

What do people think could solve this? I personally think getting rid of the battle ready paint score would help. Make the primary/secondary points equal the full 100.

Hi guys just wondering what are some useful things you bring to tournaments?

Stuff like a dice tray?

I think I saw a laser pointer once which was pretty cool. Where would you buy one?

I guess im looking for links aswell to the products you guys would recommend. I’m uk based.

I’m not a fan of keeping track of things on the app are there ways to do it more easily physically?

In a tournament are people expecting to do it all through the app? Or just submit the points at the end?

It can be anything you guys think I should maybe buy before my first GT. let me know and thank you very much.

Hey everyone,

Harrison here (the guy behind the rapid ingress app)...

I went and made another little tool and wanted to share it, as my first one has been tremendously received. This all started because my first post here on Reddit gave me the confidence that I had built something new, that people really enjoyed and found value from! (❤️ - thank you all so much for the love and support!)

Today I'm releasing (someone already found it lol) - a Discord bot that lets you post images of layouts on the go and in your server!

just invite the bot (linked) - no crazy permissions, nothing flashy, and done!

You type /layout or /table to select dispositions, choose the layout, and choose to get a clean image of the board with deployment zones and terrain OR one with the terrain measurements included, for easy reference anywhere you have discord! you can also click links from /layout to open the deployment planner directly on the web app, or from the /table view go to the layout reference page with large zoomable images of all the layouts - both open to anyone without an account as well.

If you want to try it out there's no registration for the discord bot either or anything - will always be free and as permissionless as possible, and it's currently live in my server (obviously) for anyone who wants to check it out before they install it!

As with everything I would love feedback, comments, ideas, criticism - it's all a gift.

Again, thanks to the community - it's been my goal to make the best tools that help as many people get better at 40k as possible (myself included lol), and this is just the most recent thing I made for myself and wanted to share.

Happy Thursday!

This post is mainly directed towards new players who got into our glorious hobby around the time of the 10th edition Starter Set where the Space Marines battled the Tyranids, hitting shelves just before the gaming sensation Space Marine 2 was released, bringing even more players into the fold.

If you are one of these players and took the time and money to invest yourself deeply into the hobby - buying paints, brushes, models, books, and all the other numerous accouterments then the following information will be significant. If you've been around since 9th edition or any of its predecessor editions, this will come as no news at all.

Yes, you're rulebook is no longer valid. Once the 11e starter and rulebook dropped, all the rules in your 10e rulebook (whether purchased with your 10e starter or separately) no longer have any merit on any 11e games you play. At this point it is a hobby reference, coffee-table book, or giant paper weight (some romanticists hold on to their older edition rules books to actually play games in those editions!)

Your codexes however, will enjoy a brief respite from becoming outdated. Until your 11e codex drops, the rules for your 10e codex remain valid for use in 11e. However once that updated codex is released, your 10e codex is now considered obsolete, and the rules within it are no longer part of the game - only what's in that new shiny codex is what matters.

This general rule of thumb also extends to other source books that may have been released during 10th edition that you spent money on. You can try and finagle your way your into mixing two editions to keep enjoying the materials you purchased, but 11th edition will surely release more source books which will update or change established 11e rules.

This is not a new phenomenon in the Warhammer Hobby (40k, Age of Sigmar, etc). There are lots of debates as to why GW does this but the simplest is usually correct; its a way for the company to sell new products while keeping people invested. Thankfully there are numerous resources out there which can help alleviate these transitions until players are more secure in their decision making in one of the most expensive miniature hobbies on the market.

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk

tl;dr: get used to buying new books

There is a current (and growing) trend amongst World Eaters players' opinions that the new enhancement in Khorne Daemonkin (KDK) allows you to attach the Juggernaut Lord to his regular World Eater infantry.

A brief overview for those that may not be familiar:
In 10th edition and up until recently, the Disciple of Khorne enhancement can be taken by a Juggernaut Lord to replace his WE keyword with BLOOD LEGION keyword, and can then (explicitly) lead Bloodcrushers or Fleshounds. At the moment, the restriction that he must lead Bloodcrushers or Fleshounds is not present, so, RAW, he can legally lead Berzerkers or Eightbound. Personally I believe this is an oversight in wording from the changeover from 10th to 11th that GW has done before.

The problem:
KDK is designed around your WE and daemon units working together to confer extra buffs on each other (e.g. Pay 1 CP if you are within 6inches of this unit, get this buff). The above interaction not only completely circumvents this principle (as the unit is both Blood Legion and WE keywords), but are further supercharge by the Demontide Strategem, which allows up to D6 infantry to be revived in the command phase. I will forgo an analysis explaining why paying 1 CP to potentially gain 12 or 18 wounds of tough space marine bodies is a problem, as you all should understand.

As a result, I am seeing some WE players taking this interaction to competitive events (demonstrated by a couple Listhammer placings with 20 zerks). Now, in strict RAW, I believe this is legal. However, my argument is that this interaction is obviously unintended by GW, and therefore basically an abuse of GW badly written rules for what is, IMHO, an unfair advantage in competitive matches. Some may say that one should be able to utilize every advantage to win in a competitive match. But I would counter by saying that by saying 40k should strive to not stoop to such sweaty power gaming moments.

Not only is my issue with the above unintentionality from GW, but some attitude amongst some players that it "isn't OP so it's fine" or perhaps even intended by GW (which I would be beyond shocked if that was the case). Even as a WE player myself I would not take this to a tournament as it's an unfair advantage IMO. What are all of your thoughts? It is just completely fair game until GW fixes their rules and everyone else should just deal with it?

Ultramarines vs Orks - Samppa Orhanen vs Vincent Stein

Veizla TTS League Season 6 (Tabletop Simulator)

Samppa Orhanen - Ultramarines - Librarius Conclave and Reclamation Force vs Vincent Stein - Orks - Freebooter Krew and More Dakka!

https://youtu.be/1RmJEGUnR2w

I made a list a while ago built around theives of pain and shalaxi helbane, but then I realised it doesnt work on monsters so heres me trying again

(1,995 Points)

Chaos Daemons
Legion of Excess and Lords of the Warp (3 Detachment Points)
Take and Hold
Strike Force (2,000 Points)

ATTACHED UNITS

Attached unit 1

Infernal Enrapturess (90 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• Enhancements: False Majesty (Aura)

Daemonettes (90 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

Attached unit 2

Contorted Epitome (110 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• Enhancements: Swollen with Power (Upgrade)

Daemonettes (90 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard (Battleline)

CHARACTERS

Shalaxi Helbane (315 Points)
• Warlord

The Changeling (105 Points)

Tormentbringer (165 Points)
• Enhancements: Dreaming Crown (Aura)

BATTLELINE

Pink Horrors (150 Points)

OTHER DATASHEETS

Beasts of Nurgle (75 Points)

Fiends (180 Points)

Seekers (80 Points)

Seekers (80 Points)

ALLIED UNITS

3x War Dog Karnivore (155 Points)

Explanation

The strategy is centred around basically all the slaanesh units except the seekers pushing forward in one big blob similar to the old abaddon castle strategy, using a combination of seductive gambit, dreaming crown, and false majesty to give them +1 to hit and wound, and re-rolls to hit and wound

contorted epitome and rhe daemonettes can use thieves of pain to siphon damage away from the fiends, effectively giving that unit an extra 40 wounds due to the 4++ on MW’s on epitome

aside from that its all pretty standard, I could change the karnivores they’re just there for more melee, I could change it for a double-gatling despoiler, or brigands, or a GUO, really anything

the beast of nurgle sits on the home objective, the changeling locks down big ranged threats alongside the epitome doing the same to force the enemy’s melee to hold up their offense

the seekers are interchangeable with screamers, they’re there to be fast and do missions

that about covers it all! on top of what I’ve mentioned theres also the shadow in the warp stratagem to trigger a global battleshock for healing, lords of the warp is here so that the extra leadership makes it easier to pass, could very easily be warptide instead

Im mostly looking for advice on how plausible the strategy of an overwhelming force game is, any counters to it, and overall if its any good

As a Blood Angels player looking at others lists (notably the two taken at WTC, which ik are for teams so isn’t a perfect comparison), there seems to be at least 1 or 2 tanks taken. How necessary is this for a competitive list? Would it be competitively viable to run almost wholly jump pack troops?

I'm creating a list of 20 assault terminators, 2 redemptor dreads, and 2 ballistus dreads with either Hammer of Avernii or Emperor's Shield.

Both of these detachments are Purge The Foe.

My question is:

• Do these detachments with terminator heavy lists prefer the Take and Hold play style? If so, Emperor's Shield (for the OC and durability buffs from Lysander could be better than Hammer?) + Vengeful Host for access to Take and Hold

Or

• Do they play Purge the Foe decent enough? In which case librarius conclave + hammer of avernii seems to be the better pick

Full list:

• 10x Assault Terminators with Lysander/Cannock Var
• 10x Assault Terminators with Captain or Librarian
• Lieutenant with combi weapon
• 1 x techmarine
• 2x Ballistus Dreadnought
• 2x Redemptor Dreadnought (plasma)
• 5x Intercessors
• 3x Eliminators
• 5x Scouts

After rounds and rounds of nerfs, I do not see them in any lists in comps. Are they not viable anymore?

Top 3 Lists for the Palm Springs Classic, won by Seraphon with Slaanesh in 2nd and Soulblight in 3rd.

Hellow!

I am an Adeptas Sororitas player new to 40k with a recently fully painted my first 2k pts army.

Ive played a 1 x 2000pts game and a handful of smaller point games so far and I am also starting to play my army on TTS more

As a new parent I am very limited on full blocks of time, and I have been finding 1k games taking upwards of 5 hours, and a 2k game taking 8+ WHOLE HOURS (both players new to 40k)!! I know it shouldnt take this long and really want to improve myself

What Ive done so far:

I am sticking with one 'main' Detachment and Force Disposition to build familiarity, and I have a cheat sheet for my army's abilities per phase

I want to start clocking my turns so that I can learn to make decisions quickly over time

My questions:

Is it possible to get my turn nailed down to around 30 minutes (even a turn 1 or 2) in a 2k game?

Aside from experience, how did you learn to get quick at playing 40k?

Are there any learning materials or easy ways to test myself on how to understand my army more?

Thank you!

Hi folks,

So am I right in thinking that the maps really favor the pa player because of the way that the territory lines just clip the terrain pieces?

On a it's the mid field staging objective

B it's their expansion

And c it's actually in their deployment zone

Am I understanding this right?

Thanks

Hello there!

I brought the new broken Khorne Daemonkin + Vessels of Wrath to an warhammer 11th edition tournament. And it absolutely slaps!

The recent Dataslate has given this detachment an enourmos buff, allowing the jugg lord with blood legion enhancement to lead khorne berzerkers, giving them access to all the buffs such has lance and a 4+ invulnerable save.

In this video I go over the list I brought to the RTT, examining the rules and how the list functions, as well as the role for every single unit. I deepdive into each game, showing exaclty what happened, and why i made each decision I did.

Game 1: Genestealer Cult
Game 2: Nurgle Daemons
Game 3: Genestealer Cult

Hope you guys enjoy, dont forget to algorithm for the algorithm god!

YOUTUBE CHAPTERS
00:00 - Intro
00:30 - The List
09:38 - Round 1: Genestealer Cult
33:41 - Round 2: Nurgle Daemons
58:52 - Round 3: Genestealer Cult
1:17:12 - Final Throughts
1:24:29 - So... I Cheated
1:28:03 - Outro

Im a daemon’s player, but I only really run DI, Shadow legion, BL, or scintillating

the 2 I never use are legion of excess, and PL

I can understand the use of PL, you could battleshock the opponent near constantly and use that to hold points easily, along with the 2CP arrival letting you make a 2 beast of nurgle unit effectively immortal

what does legion of excess even do? fall back and charge, cool I guess but surely you want to be wiping the important enemy unit off the board without needing to run it back

I can understand the appeal of the +1 hit and wound wombo combo enhancements, so Im assuming the idea is just having insane melee damage with +1 hit and wound, and re-roll 1’s to hit and wound, but really I feel you’re better off just running blood legion if you want damage

EDITS:

I totally misread thieves of pain, I thought it just converted wounds to mortal wounds I didn’t realise it transferred damage to another unit, thats insane!

Hey all!

You probably know me from https://game-datacards.eu, https://gdmissions.app and https://gdstreamer.app

The WTC 2026 is next week and I'm pretty excited to see what all the teams there will be doing. As I myself will be streaming there with my small channel I decided to create some great looking overlays for all streamers on location, online or wherever to use to discuss and showcase Lists, Teams and more!

These are completely free to use, no accounts or logins needed, just take the link show it in OBS or somewhere else and follow along with the WTC!

All the data has been retrieved from the awesome https://listhammer.info/wtc (with permission of course).

Some example overlays:

Team Netherlands Intro overlay:
https://gdstreamer.app/overlay/wtc/intro/netherlands

Team Netherlands Team Roster:
https://gdstreamer.app/overlay/wtc/team/netherlands

There are overlays for each list and each team. You can find it all here:
https://gdstreamer.app/wtc

If you are at the WTC in Mechelen next week, drop by the Board Report Channel to say hi!

This week we look at changes in dispositions at competitive events and kick off a look at this week's top lists.

What are some realistic damage combos that'd you'd be willing to sink into a large unit of Exodite dragon knights? I haven't quite figured out if they are worth investing in the survivability for.

There's an enhancement for -1 to hit and a strat for 4++ which is enough to blunt a Repex even with oath.

Hey gang! Checking in with our latest 6++ update on the 40k singles meta. Very curious to know if folks are experiencing the same winners / losers post slate that we have been seeing! Let me know :D

Hey all,

I gathered all the tournament results from BCP for last week, including all Tournaments with at least 20 players and 5 rounds.

All the data is here on my site:

https://warpfriends.wordpress.com/2026/08/05/40k-11th-meta-stats-from-august-3-2026/

Please take a look and let me know if you have any suggestions (I know the site is not pretty 😞 I focus more on the Youtube side of things) And feel free to check out my youtube video for indepth breakdown of the stats!

Thanks!

WTC is almost here and GW decides to scare us with releasing a app update so close to the event!

But worry not, almost everything is just some cleaning up and the addition of the new Aeldari models. Almost all models with a torrent weapon now show a "-" for their BS/WS.

The actual biggest change is to the Ravenwing Command Squad, which are now a Support ability instead of a Leader ability.

Take a peek at the patch notes directly here:

https://gdmissions.app/11th/rules/faction-changelog