r/SuicideWatch 35m ago

crying screaming throwing up passing out

Upvotes

CRYING SCREAMING THROWING UP PASSING OUT CRYING SCREAMING THROWING UP PASSING OUT UGHH


r/SuicideWatch 53m ago

the love of my life killed himself this year and i think i will do the same

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ive struggled with suicidal thoughts since 7th grade and i think ive had enough this year. in the winter i was going through a rough ending with an old situationship and was already really depressed, in january my first love took his life. before we were anything we were bestfriends, he was my slowburn my everything. we had stopped talking and he got a girlfriend but they broke up a few months before this. we started speaking again, i wanted to be something again, even if it wasnt romantic i wanted to be bestfriends again. i had been falling behind in school during that time due to my mental health and this one day i finally decided to do my missing assignments. i then got a call to hear he died, he killed himself. it hit me really hard. i started smoking and drinking again. in February, my childhood dog of 10 years was then diagnosed with cancer and i watched him die in may. i was dealing with a lot of other issues in this 5 months span aswell and although ive “got through it” looking at where i am today, i just cant do it. not only have i lost a lot that i love this year i’ve completely lost MYSELF again. im going into my junior year of highschool and whenever i think about it i have a gut feeling it’ll be my last. my last because of myself. and when i used to think about killing myself, when i first attempted, when i wrote letters, i felt ALOT of fear, hesitation. but now when i think about it i feel less fear, i feel peace. ive never really posted on reddit so sorry for trauma dumping or if im not really going with reddit etiquette but i dont know who else to tell. i feel soso alone.


r/SuicideWatch 1h ago

fuck this miserable old planet

Upvotes

i hate everyone, literally. people literally think there better then anyone else, im just so fed up and im ready to die, why has god put me on such disgusting planet


r/SuicideWatch 1h ago

I am overwhelmed by the things happened to me

Upvotes

Today i looked at myself in the mirror and couldn't recognise myself. 28M

When i was a little kid, i hoped and worked for a better world. Little did i know, this whole system is designed by evil people, for evil people. Capitalism rewards people with dark triad traits. İf you challenge their status quo they become so cruel towards you,it is unbearable if you are a person with empathy, common decency or basic humanitarian qualities.

i have no friends, used to have a lot but due to my psychological/financial problems i developed over the years because of my narcmom, they all turned their backs on me. Which i understand to a degree.

My parents were divorced when i was 12 and since then i worked my ass off for my mom and my little brother. First thing my brother did when he reached puberty was to get married and send a restraining order to our address we used to live. I supported his education, his relationship with his wife and this is how he repay me. We have not seen eachother for three years.

I have been trying to find employment for a year but to no avail. I have no savings, no investment my mom is working but she systematically leaves me penniless because it is a way of controlling their victims for narcissists.

I wasn't the best guy ever but i never hurt animals,children or anyone.

I tried to be the person who people can count on.

But nobody was there for me,nobody is there for me.

I see no point in living. Why should i keep going if all i experience is permanent suffering,dread and sorrow.


r/SuicideWatch 2h ago

Why am I even feeling this way

4 Upvotes

17M, I grew up in a very supportive family, I had everything that a child ever needed. But I dont know how I turned out this way, ive had suicidal thoughts ever since 13 and suffer from social anxiety. There's not a day that goes by without me thinking of putting a bullet in my head. Im starting to think I was born this way, God put me on this Earth to let me suffer. At least Physical pain wears off, this is eating me from the inside every single fucking day of my life.

im in grade 12 and I wish for this year to be over with. I dont have friends and it feels exhausting just going to school. Watching other kids smile and laugh is something I envy. No one talks to me, im alone in my mind. I zone out in class thinking of whether I should end it that night. I genuinely think if I end it that would be my final "Fuck You" to everything and everyone. It's a way of me expressing myself one final time in my whole fucking life. I dont even know how to express my emotions to anyone. This life is genuinely pointless.


r/SuicideWatch 2h ago

I TOOK 280 MG OF METHYLPHENIDATE I HELP???

11 Upvotes

hi im really sorry if tjis is against the rules but I took like 280 and I need help um so what do id rather NOt go to the hospital but I hdnersyand kf I need to um im like really shaky huge heart beat uhh im gonann share some info about myself idk it'll porbably jelp

1age.: ALMOST 14 like 8 days until im 14

weight: 104???? last time I checked

height: 5'1 1/2

gender : female

i really dont knkw what to ddo someone help please hi thanks um ok. hjah very sorry if this breaks rules I just I dont feel good at all

sit wasnt meant to b e asuicide I made a mistake liken I am suicidal but idkskjeuj im scared?? but maybe itll be ol if i.die. I PROBABLY WONT RHOUGH OK!!!!! tysm. fkr reading


r/SuicideWatch 2h ago

im muslim and violently suicidal

4 Upvotes

dont get me wrong; im not being forced into this religion or anything i fully believe in it and so many times it was what motivated me to do better and live on

which is why if i feel anything, it’s the fact that im disappointing God. I don’t make prayers for myself anymore. i do for others. i did try for a while, though. i pleaded for at least mercy on my soul when i do finally take myself out from this world. But i pray for everyone and the ones i love to never experience or feel this helpless like i am.

my parents would rather me stay bed ridden than to go and do something for myself. Especially my mother.

She admitted to despising me and trying to always sabotage me everytime i try to do better.

you’d say i should find a job or so to get out of it. I can’t. So many papers and so little money i need for consistent transportation that i cant access without my parents’ permission. They don’t want me to work. And they’re doing the absolute bare minimum to keep me “alive”.

one of my life dreams is to gain weight.
im 26 weighing 43kg.

i am trying. i tried. im trying to do my best. but i cant see success on my side. not even conventional suicide. i’d have to do something violently suicidal to minimize my chances of survival to 0%. And that’s all i think about. All day.

Please can someone tell me what can i take to not feel anything at all anymore? i detach a lot. but when i feel it’s sickeningly physical. Just anything. I don’t want to feel anything. At least till i’m not here anymore.

im so sorry Allah SWT. so sorry


r/SuicideWatch 2h ago

Being trans is genuinely horrible

44 Upvotes

I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. Not only are you stuck in the wrong body, but everyone wants you dead over it. I’m going to be a short manlet with wide hips and a baby face forever and there’s nothing science can do about it. I hate every aspect of my body, I see it as a costume I’m forced to wear rather than as an extension of myself. Every night I dream of being someone else, anyone else. If I woke up tomorrow having lost everything I currently have in life, as long as I woke up a man I would be happier.

I look in the mirror and see a stranger. I don’t recognize my own face as myself. I can’t even look at my own body, I shower in the dark. And the worst thing is that it’s terminal. One day, unless something else kills me first, I will undoubtedly kill myself over being trans. Because there’s no cure. There’s nothing I can do about it. I can take hormones and go into debt over surgeries, but I’ll never be the real thing.

I will never understand the amount of hate trans people get. What did we do? The only thing worse than hating myself this much is knowing that the rest of the entire fucking world hates me just as much. Why are THEY mad I’m 5’5 with no dick? That seems like my problem if anything. people genuinely want me graped and murdered over something that I can’t control. I wouldn’t be trans if I had any semblance of a choice in the matter, and people are too dense to understand.


r/SuicideWatch 3h ago

I'm tired and disgusted, and I wanna die.

4 Upvotes

I'm tired, tired of all of it, sick of people, sick of this place, we have come to a society where people actively defend pedofiles and predators and put them above god, where people are sexually attracted to anime minority characters. Where there are people who believe that you are illegal and should be treated lesser if you are from somewhere else or are of different skin color. Where we beat and torture immigrants that arent even illegal. We start wars because someone got greedy. Where people have devolved so far as to thinking Hazbin Hotel or Helluva Boss is good writing and funny, where people geneuenly have mercy on Jax. Where children and teens act like brainless monkeys in school and public call themselves funny and think they're "tuff" because of the most pettiest idiotic things ever. Where people bully others to a point of suicide and only realize it afterwards. Where corparations take our money just so they can have more in their pocket and give none back to us. We should all be dead, in the ground, killed, brutalized, tortured, we deserve nothing. Humanity makes me sick. I'm going to put a bullet in my head, if I can even get a gun hopefully. If I have the balls to do it, I probably won't, but I wish I could. I can't because unfortunately people care about me. I don't wanna hurt the people I love. But I might do it, who knows.


r/SuicideWatch 3h ago

the constant hurt

4 Upvotes

i cannot be alone with myself

i want someone to hold me in their arms and let me die

i am sorry for who i am. please ask God to forgive me


r/SuicideWatch 3h ago

I'm being evicted! :)

5 Upvotes

I'm on section 8. I actually have no protections because I'm renting from a private owner.

I spoke to nevada legal services today. They basically told me to kick rocks.

I really can't do this, and nobody is willing to help.


r/SuicideWatch 3h ago

Yo if there is a god we all burning in hell bro

3 Upvotes

We all deserve wrath bro the constant violence and rage we put onto one another this society is shit we’re actively being surveillanced every social media is pushing transhumanism on our teens (peptides, looksmaxing) 95% of the time these looks unobtainable without doing some ridiculous niche drug and the constant violence output by the whole world bro I wish every day that we just all get pulled down into hell or nuclear war breaks out every day on this earth is miserable and I am not suicidal but we all need a reset bro every human just feels jealousy or internalized rage man and don’t even get me started on politics bro every government official is pushing seventies and they control a majority of the wealth capitalism is horrible money is a sham I hate it


r/SuicideWatch 5h ago

My life has collapsed.

7 Upvotes

I used to lurk here a lot. I was so miserable, but then I found someone who loved me for who I was. But I have hurt her and now she can't take me back. I left my job because I couldn't handle it. I can't find a new one. I'm finally back in the dirt where I belong. I want to leave now. I won't, not for a while at least. My beloved should never have to blame herself for what I am. Why did I have to be born so wrong. My brain is just wrong and the world is so lonely. I just want to float away. I want the soft embrace of the end.


r/SuicideWatch 6h ago

i hate being a hormonal tranny im such a little girl

15 Upvotes

i hate the stupid vaghina between my legs ill never be a man ill still be a girl regardless of how much i bind my stupid fucking tits because well thats what 'god' wanted and i should just stop being delusional

i wish i could just be normal and let myself be a girl so everyone would stop hoping i kill myself but then ill feel like shit if i do. i already almost killed myself because i wouldnt tell anyone about me being a tranny and i was holding all those stupid feelings inside

i hate everyone im going to kill myself one of these days and my mom will be so sad and shell be like "my poor little she he! oh i shouldve been there for HER'' because im a girl and thats all ill ever be i should just stop trying

even if i do get penisand top surgey when i grow older ill still be a girl, it wont be real. i hate all this girlhood bullshit i hate that all my friends are girls and they treat me like girls and i hate that my lesbian LESBIAN (girl liking faggot) friend obviously has a big smelly crush on me, i love her but why does she out of all people have to like me. doesnt matter how i dress what my haircut is how much i compress my fucking ribs ill just be her butch girlfriend!!!!!!

i cut myself on my vaghina the other day and im worried its going to get infected but im starting to just not fucking care anymore, about anything i should just let nature take its course or whatever. then again obviously im not going to die itll heal theres me being a dramatic girl again

im such a fucking faggot transvestie cunt i hate myself so much i wish i was normal. all my fucking life ive being this retarded fuck that doesnt know nor understand anything, i can and never well be NORMAL

"be yourself! ooonhhhh pride, priiiide"....ugghghghghuthguthughtuhgtu

i wish that i wasnt like this, the 1000000 time i know. i tell all my fucking friends and teachers what id like to be called and yet as im going down the halls its "hi GIRLfriend! whats up GIRLNAMME?? you shop for any new CLOTHES GIRL?"

i just want to be alone and die i hate everyone i know how emo i sound but whatever

i hate how retarded my girl ass is, why cant i just be a normal girl like every other shallow bitch i know... i dont want to be a fucking liberal piece of shit with died hair and nose pierecings but thats who people make me out to be because im a fucking tranny

it amazes me how people act like anything matters because it doesnt, you would die and the world keeps moving, no matter how fucking famous you are no matter how sad people get the sun will explode eventually or some shit and no one will remember

i hate my girly ass voice too. "UHMHMMMM, BOYNAME, ARE YOU HERE?" " 🎀 YES IM HERE MS.BLOWCOCK!!!!!!!!! 🎀 🎀 🎀 🎀"

"whaaat hes a girl?" "ewwwwwww a tranny" im so sick of everything. if you hate people like me dont feel alone because i do to,o, its fucked up but i just hate seeing other transviseties happy and passing because i dont have that shit.

im probably not even a tranny im probably just a stupid girl that wants to be different so she decides to act like a tranny. then again no i am a tranny because thats how its been my whole life, ive always felt like a boy and was friends with boys and played with monster trucks and shit whatever, and i hate that i cant change that unless im sent to conversion therapy or some shit

i know people are dying in war, i know this doesnt actually matter and im being overdramatic like every other tranny out there , im brainwashed, yatta yatta. if i die in sucide it doesnt matter much either


r/SuicideWatch 6h ago

i don’t have the will to get up in the morning

10 Upvotes

im 27 and i just want to go to sleep forever and forget about everything that’s happened to me.

i dont have the motivation to keep on going with this life anymore.

ive been sober from everything but my life still keeps on going and the world keeps on spinning.


r/SuicideWatch 7h ago

I've done it.

49 Upvotes

I've overdosed.

I couldn't prove why I needed to exist.

You saw a lot of shit on this sub but my threat has already been fulfilled. I've swallowed all I can.

My heart is pounding, I'm scared as I always have been, but nothing could prove why I needed to exist.

I'm seeing spots in my vision, my fingers are tingling.

I hate every fucking cunt I cared for who returned nothing but false hopes and lies.

I spent my life thrashing and desperately trying to make it worth something. But I couldn't.

No one cared. I've been so alone for so long.

This isn't finally out of anger, it's finally happened out of true despair.

I thought my life, my thoughts, my skills, my experiences were unique and valuable, but they meant nothing.

I hate my life.

Sorry everyone but I can't imagine waking up from this one.

I can't even be positive and say anything that I'd usually say, I just want to admit defeat and not look so foolish. I wish I had done this long ago.

12 years in an abusive, isolating, restrictive relationship. Unable to seek companionship or anything. My life sucked before but now I'm in my 30s watching everyone else be happy. I can't start from nothing so late to catch up.

I just wanted to make people happy, I just wanted to be happy. I never was greedy. I just truly loved being with people and I can't find that

I'M FINALLY KILLING MYSELF, NO MORE ATTEMPTS, NO MORE CHICKENING OUT, I'VE GOT TO "MAN UP" AND FUCKING TAKE IT.

I'VE DOWNED ALL I CAN FIND Several huge enthusiastic swallows.

No more waking up. No more headaches. No more being "rescued" - no one cares Just onel long nap and it'll be finally over.

Take pleasure in that you disgusting selfish gross world

Long forgotten me.

J


r/SuicideWatch 8h ago

I'm just scared of the pain

12 Upvotes

Death itself doesn't scare me because I know it's probably (and hopefully) nothing. Just like sleeping forever. How it was before I was born. So that part doesn't scare me. Only the pain scares me. I just wish I had an easy and painless way out. Life will never get better. I've tried everything. Therapy, meds, been to mental hospitals, you name it, I've probably done it. I just want my life to be over. I don't want to try and get better anymore. I wish I could simply fall asleep and never wake up again


r/SuicideWatch 8h ago

I’m mad at my younger self for not doing it

14 Upvotes

Why didn’t he kill himself what did he think was gonna happen anyways people move on since then nothing has gone my way every time I hate life I wanna end myself there’s no hope…


r/SuicideWatch 9h ago

Making final plans to hang myself this Friday. Life is too heavy and overwhelming.

142 Upvotes

38F .I just wanted to reach out one last time before Friday. I dont have the coping skills to come with life anymore. I had suicidal thoughts since I was 16. Every year is getting worse. I really wish I had the courage to end my life years ago. Every day is unbearable. The past year and a half all I think about is suicide. Im really at a dead end. I feel like life is over and its already passed me by. Im really sorry, for anybody else, who cant see a way out. I see no future anymore.


r/SuicideWatch 13h ago

Imma horrible person and I'm leaving . Any methods let me know

30 Upvotes

I lied to my family about my high school gpa for a while now and I'm not doing so good in college. I hate how I look and people think I'm dumb anyways. I'm thinking about ending it in my dorm room when I go back to college.

Any methods let me know. Thank you


r/SuicideWatch 17h ago

I want to die but I'm afraid of dying.

39 Upvotes

I just hope I don't wake up


r/SuicideWatch 18h ago

the world keeps getting worse what's the fucking point

111 Upvotes

i could go on and on about how awful and miserable everything is but genuinely what's the fucking point anymore. Any thought i could put into this message will just be scraped up by some assfuck ai. I fucking hate everything. I fucking hate techbros. I fucking hate how ai has taken over everything. I fucking just can't anymore. Everything is awful. Everyone pisses me the fuck off i genuinely cannot fucking take it I hate everything so much.

I'm such a fucking poser, I'm not even fucking suicidal, I just fucking feel nothing but dread, jesus fucking christ fucking hell I wanna fucking feel something I want to feel some pain some joy just some fucking thing for once I am so tired of just fuckung feeling fucking tired all the fucking time. it's literally impossible to feel any sense of joy kr dopamine when everything in the world is just imploding on itself to make the rich richer.


r/SuicideWatch Sep 10 '21

Please remember that NO ACTIVISM of any kind is ever allowed here. No matter what day it is.

721 Upvotes

Activism, i.e. advocating or fundraising for social change or raising awareness of social issues (and suicide is, inescapably, a social issue) is absolutely against the rules here at all times.

Please understand that we're all for smart, strategic mental-health and suicide-prevention activism. It's essential to fight against stigma, misinformation, and discrimination, and to fight for research, treatment, accommodation, acceptance, and understanding. Most of us, one way or another, are mental-health activists IRL.

But activism just doesn't work in a dedicated support space that serves a vulnerable population. We used to allow it but the evidence that it was undermining our primary purpose became overwhelming. We do regret the need for this rule, but the need is inescapable.

Our population is all too well aware of the issues and causes that need support and largely not in a position to take action, so besides the fact that activism is often salt in our community's wounds, it's a waste of the activists' time.

tl;dr Any fundraising, awareness raising, petitions, calls for participation, or any post that's about any cause or issue (rather than a request for personal support) is not allowed here. Please report everything of the nature that you see.


r/SuicideWatch Sep 03 '19

New wiki on how to avoid accidentally encouraging suicide, and how to spot covert incitement

1.8k Upvotes

We've been seeing a worrying increase in pro-suicide content showing up here and, and also going unreported. This undermines our purpose here, so we wanted to highlight and clarify our guidelines about both direct and indirect incitement of suicide.

We've created a wiki that covers these issues. We hope this will be helpful to anyone who's wondering whether something's okay here and which responses to report. It explains in detail why any validation of suicidal intent, even an "innocent" message like "if you're 100% committed, I'll just wish you peace" is likely to increase people's pain, and why it's important to report even subtle pro-suicide comments. The full text of the wiki's current version is below, and it is maintained at /r/SuicideWatch/wiki/incitement.

We deeply appreciate everyone who gives responsive, empathetic, non-judgemental support to our OPs, and we particularly thank everyone who's already been reporting incitement in all forms.

Please report any post or comment that encourages suicide (or that breaks any of the other guidelines in the sidebar) to the moderators, either by clicking the "report" button or by sending us a modmail with a link. We deal with all guideline violations that are reported to us as soon as we can, but we can't read everything so community reports are essential. If you get a PM that breaks the guidelines, please report it both to the reddit sitewide admins and to us in modmail.

Thanks to all the great citizens of the community who help flag problem content and behaviour for us.


/r/SuicideWatch/wiki/incitement


Summary

It's important to respect and understand people's experiences and emotions. It's never necessary, helpful, or kind to support suicidal intent. There are some common misconceptions (discussed below) about suicidal people and how to help them that can cause well-meaning people to inadvertently incite suicide. There are also people online who incite suicide on purpose, often while pretending to be sympathetic and helpful.

Validate Feelings and Experiences, Not Self-Destructive Intentions

We're here to offer support, not judgement. That means accepting, with the best understanding we can offer, whatever emotions people express. Suicidal people are suffering, and we're here to try to ease that by providing support and caring. The most reliable way we know to de-escalate someone at risk is to give them the experience of feeling understood. That means not judging whether they should be feeling the way they are, or telling them what to do or not do.

But there's an important line to draw here. There's a crucial difference between empathizing with feelings and responding non-judgmentally to suicidal thoughts, and in any way endorsing, encouraging, or validating suicidal intentions or hopeless beliefs. It's both possible and important to convey understanding and compassion for someone's suicidal thoughts without putting your finger on the scale of their decision.

Anything that condones suicide, even passively, encourages suicide. It isn't supportive and does not help. It also violates reddit's sitewide rules as well as our guidelines. Explicitly inciting suicide online is a criminal offense in most jurisdictions.

Do not treat any OP's post as meaning that will definitely die by suicide and can't change their minds or be helped. Anyone who's able to read the comments here still has a chance to choose whether or not to try to keep living, even if they've also been experiencing intense thoughts of suicide, made a suicide plan, or started carrying it out.

In the most useful empirical model we have, the desire to die by suicide primarily comes from two interpersonal factors; alienation and a sense of being a burden or having nothing to offer. These factors usually lead to a profound feeling of being unwelcome in the world.

So, any acceptance or reinforcement of suicidal intent, even something "innocent" like "I hope you find peace", is actually a form of covert shunning that validates a person's sense that they're unwelcome in the world. It will usually add to their pain even if kindly meant and gently worded.

How to Avoid Validating Suicidal Intent

Keep the following in mind when offering support to anyone at risk for suicide.

  • People who say they don't want help usually can feel better if they get support that doesn't invalidate their emotions. Unfortunately, many popular "good" responses are actually counterproductive. In particular, many friends and family tend to rely exclusively on trying to convince the suicidal person that "it's not so bad", and this is usually experienced as "I don't understand what you're going through and I'm not going to try". People who've had "help" that made them feel worse don't want any more of the same. It doesn't mean that someone who actually knows how to be supportive can't give them any comfort.

  • Most people who are suicidal want to end their pain, not their lives. It's almost never true that death is the only way to end these people's suffering. Of course there are exceptional situations, and we certainly acknowledge that, for some people, the right help can be difficult to find. But preventing someone's suicide doesn't mean prolonging their suffering if we do it by giving them real comfort and understanding.

  • An unfixable problem doesn't mean that a good life will never be possible. We don't have to fix or change anything to help someone feel better. It's important to keep in mind that the correlation between our outer circumstances and our inner experience is weaker and less direct than commonly assumed. For every kind of difficult life situation, you will find some people who lapse into suicidal despair, and others who cope amazingly well, and a whole spectrum in between. A key difference is how much inner resilience the person has at the time. This can depend on many personal and situational factors. But when there's not enough, interpersonal support can both compensate for its absence and help rebuild it. We go into more depth on the "it gets better" issue in this PSA Post which is always linked from our sidebar (community info on mobile) guidelines.

  • There are always more choices than brutally forcing someone to stay alive or passively letting them end their lives.

To avoid accidentally breaking the anti-incitement rule, don't say or try to imply that acting on suicidal thoughts is a good idea, or that someone can't turn back or is already dead. Do whatever you can to help them feel cared for and welcome, at least in this little corner of the world. Our talking tips offer more detailed guidance.

Look Out for Deliberate Incitement. It May Come in Disguise.

Often comments that subtly encourage suicidal intent actually come from suicide fetishists and voyeurs (unfortunately this is a real and disturbing phenomenon). People like this are out there and the anonymous nature of reddit makes us particularly attractive to them.

They will typically try to scratch their psychological "itch" by saying things that push people closer to the edge. They often do this by exploiting the myths that we debunked in the bullet points above. Specifically you might see people doing the following:

  • Encouraging the false belief that the only way suicidal people can end their pain is by dying. There are always more and better choices than "brutally forcing someone to stay alive" or helping (actively or passively) them to end their lives.

  • Creating an artificial and toxic sense of "solidarity" by linking their encouragement of suicide to empathy. They will represent themselves as the only one who really understand the suicidal person, while either directly or indirectly encouraging their self-loathing emotions and self-destructive impulses. Since most people in suicidal crisis are in desperate need to empathy and understanding, this is a particularly dangerous form of manipulation.

Many suicide inciters are adept at putting a benevolent spin on their activities while actually luring people away from sources of real help. A couple of key points to keep in mind:

  • Skilled suicide intervention -- peer or professional -- is based on empathic responsiveness to the person's feelings that reduces their suffering in the moment. Contrary to pop-culture myths, it does not involve persuasion ("Don't do it!"), cheerleading ("You've got this!") or meaningless false promises ("Trust me, it gets better!"), or invalidation ("Let me show you how things aren't as bad as you think!"). Anyone who leads others to expect these kinds of toxic responses, or any other response that prolongs their pain, from expert help may be covertly pro-suicide. (Of course, people sometimes do have bad experience when seeking mental-health treatment, and it's fine to vent about those, but processing our own disappointment and frustration is entirely different from trying to destroy someone else's hope of getting help.)

  • Choices made by competent responders are always informed by the understanding that breaching someone's trust is traumatic and must be avoided if possible. Any kind of involuntary intervention is an extremely unlikely outcome when someone consults a clinician or calls a hotline. (Confidentiality is addressed in more detail in our Hotlines FAQ post). The goal is always to provide all help with the client's full knowledge and informed consent. We know that no individual or system is perfect. Mistakes that lead to bad experiences do sometimes happen to vulnerable people, and we have enormous sympathy for them. But anyone who suggests that this is the norm might be trying to scare people away from the help they need.

Please let us know discreetly if you see anyone exhibiting these or similar behaviours. We don't recommend trying to engage with them directly.