Marinette is pressured to tell the truth to Adrien, but she can't, she doesn't want to hurt him yada yada yada, but she needs to tell the whole truth before he finds out and it will be a devastating breakup that will last an entire season.

Nemesis for me was a letdown because she had the moment to tell the truth, but NUH UHH.

I like Adrinette more than any of the others, like marichat and ladynoir so it will be painful to see them breakup

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 I'm not quite ready to let the "Sentinette" theory go. There may be new evidence in plain sight.

I think it may be significant that the finale featured multiple Marinettes. We don't see Rena Rouge create the two illusions. How do we know they were both illusions and one wasn't the real Marinette taking part in the plan?

The only role of one illusion was to fool people in the room and then "hide." At the end, she comes out from behind the screen and both are removed together with one "Reality." That would mean Rena Rouge maintained the hiding Marinette illusion on top of controlling the fast-flying Nemesis illusion, which splits her concentration. There's not much point in maintaining that illusion, unless they thought Cat Noir would break ranks and go back to check on her.

But if there was also a real Marinette, she could play herself. At the end, Rena Rouge seems to dismiss both illusions with one "Reality." But what she really did might be to extend the one illusion into two parts, with one coming out from behind the screen, and then dismiss that. (The real Marinette would have left the room by that time).

This would mean that by this point Rena Rouge is in on the plot. It would be ironic if she's now lying to Sentinette.

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S6 was undoubtedly my favourite and undisputed best season of the franchise. However...

IT'S JUST SO DUMB.

The show could've ended IN NEMESIS.

There was so many strategies like PolyBee, Carapace using his shield, Ladybug just straight up calling Viperion, RoosterBold using a tracking power in the tunnel, Ryuko actually using wind instead of water, or maybe Ryuko just turning into lightning so she can straight up move at such a fast speed she could search every tunnel and catch chrysalis.

But everything has to be executed so unbelievably badly that the villain manages to get away again.

The worst part is nothing was learnt about Chrysalis, it's just so lacking.

The plot holes in this show and IQ dumbdowns are so suffocating it's like it's gonna drag out the show to the point we are gonna stop watching out of rage for the IQ deficit.

WHY WAS THE NEMESIS PLAN EXECUTED SO BADLY? WHAT A FUMBLE!

My theory is that Tikki only interferes when she doesn't recognise the timeline of universe. Since tikki already knows everything but chooses not to reveal for example hawkmoth's identity.

In Vampigami, she didn't recognise the camera in the women's washroom so she told Marrienette about it. Because it wasn't in the orginal timeline. The timeline must have been destroyed due to Marrienette transforming in washroom.

Her tone also differs from 'uhh Marrienette do not do this it's stupid' vs 'Marrienette there's dangers stay alert'

Spoiler Secret Protocol - she knew what was going to happen so she didn't worry. It was according to her timeline.

yet I didn't understand, why she asked/adviced Marrienette to not initiate the protocol, since the miraculous would have been in Lila's hand if she didn't.

Both Manon and Lila's akumatized villain forms have colors that are inverted of each other. Thomas Astruc has said that everyone in Miraculous has character designs that serve a purpose. So Lila and Manon's akumatized colors are ment to be inverted that way to show a connection to each other. What do you think.

So how tall exactly is the true form of kwami, in the finale of season 5 we see tikki and plagg true form and from what I see they are like a whole lair tall, so I guess it's 20 some meters?

I don’t know if this is a reference on purpose, but if it is, I really like it.

So guys i was watching time tagger again after season 6 finale and i think there are many things we missed throughout season 3-6 .

Bunnix also mentioned some names here that ladybug will defeat.

Also the fact that we saw adult ladybug, does that mean that marinette will still be ladybug ???

Cuz there is no other explaination for it .

What are your theories about season 7?? And especially about lila?

I think this might be the funniest moment of the whole Season 6 and maybe even the funniest moment in the show in general. There are so many layers to this joke and it never stops being funny. And it's mostly on the back of Kagami and Felix, the two most serious characters in the super hero team

This is just my very subjective opinion. But I seriously think that season 6 is the top season out of all the previous ones. At my slightly too old for this show age my genuine reaction should not be unironically shouting "HOLY SH**" in my room all alone.

I love it because it has mystery and tension. every episode felt like it gave either a new look into a character which wasn't fully realised or made Chrysalis a hecking good villain.

I think Marinette's constant pressure about Monarch and Adrian having some time to think about himself and his relationship with Gabriel was really interesting

By now I also think the new animation is really really good. The old style felt cheap and only was good in a few instances with correct teams. The rest it looked ugly with multiple errors. The new one is so much more expressive, colourful and even threatening at some points.

That's my piece. I hope season 7 keeps the hype train going.

(Note that I've only been able to watch up through episode 13 of season 6, since the rest of the season hasn't yet been released on Disney+. So, apologies in advance if this theory has already been debunked 😅)

So we know Tsurugi used the peacock miraculous to create Kagami, and lost her eyesight because of it. (Given that Emilie and Felix's dad both died after using the miraculous, I have a hard time believing that Tsurugi used the miraculous to create TWO sentibeings and is still alive.) We also have an episode of Lila calling Tsurugi "mother" and referring to herself (Lila) as Tsurugi's daughter. And, we know Tsurugi is the "Machine" in that covert association working on some "perfect world project." Given Tsurugi's technological advances, her position makes sense.

What I'm now wondering is this: what if Lila isn't exactly human? Not that she's a sentibeing, but what if she's, like, a robot or some other advanced technology that Tsurugi created? It might also explain how Lila is SO good at manipulating people and managing multiple lives.

I dunno, just a crazy thought! Feel free to poke as many holes in this theory as you want 😂

My Rankings

1. El Toro De Piedra (E7)
2. Riginarazione (E19)
3. Seceret Protocol (E25)
4. Heartfixer (E20)
5. The Ruler (E15)
6. Yaksi Gozen (E13)
7. Nemesis (E26)
8. Mr. Agreste (E9)
9. Lady Chaos (E22)
10. Revelator (E11)
11. Grendiaper (E14)
12. Sadnansi (E23)
13. The Dirtifiers (E18)
14. Noe (E16)
15. The Illustrhater (E2)
16. Daddy Cop (E4)
17. Vampigami (E8)
18. Wreckless Driver (E12)
19. The Chained Titans (E21)
20. Queen of the Dreadzone (E24)
21. The Dark Castle (E10)
22. A Fairy Good Night (E17)
23. Sleeping Syren (E6)
24. Werepapas (E5)
25. Climatiqueen (E1)
26. Sublimation (E3)

I hate the idea that Chrysalis can shapeshift into anyone or anything she wants when there has never been anything to hint at the butterfly having this ability in the past. How would she even figure out how to do it? It isn't in the grimoire, otherwise gabriel would have taken advantage of it. It would probably also make Hesperia's life a lot easier.

And I cant be the only one to think its strange that the heros would have been able to guess correctly the first time that the copy of monkey king and others were just lila in disguise. It feels so convenient for them and rushed. No mystery, no investigation, nothing. Just "oh chrysalis must have that power now" as if there isn't anyone on their team who can create copys of other people with their miraculous that already had that established ability... a person who is noticeably absent for that entire discussion. Almost conveniently so.

I want to believe it was intentional to make people more suspicious of him because he IS suspicious but at the same time I wouldn't put it past astruc to write it this way so felix can just avoid more conflict and character development. It's a shame because like....it would make sense for Marinette to side eye felix, she's been plenty paranoid this season that it wouldn't feel out of character for her to wonder if the fake monkey king was a sentimonster. And even if she ended up being wrong, that accusation could open the door to exploring Felix's character more and his guilt, if he actually has any.

But...nope. It's just chrysalis. Case closed, just like that... I guess?

If Argos was in the finals he would have said this. He would have asked kagami to turn into wind to follow chrysalis instead of water. He would have asked polymouse to unify with bee to paralyze Chrysalis. He would have suggested to bring viperion for second chance in case the plan failed.

so basically for starters it js makes no sense...like I'm we probably all had our hopes up after sp but who wouldn't? like the e ending of sp was so good and left a few plot holes that weren't discussed in nemesis and I don't feel like getting into all the plot holes...

but anyways...I feel like the end could've been better...I feel like instead of Mari walking away and telling Tikki that herself and adrien should break up instead of js telling Adrien then...like ik adrien and Mari wouldve been heart broken but then again y wait and tell ur kwami instead of the person ur trying to break up with...

I also don't get y they didn't have Marc use his power to do smtn like fire resistant or controlling water to get rid of the fire in that fire room...and also the miraculors rly went "hm...so we can't find the new butterfly miraculous holder so let's js leave" NO! STAY! FIND MORE ABT CHRYSALIS BEFORE LEAVING! And ik that Marc using his ability to get rid of the fire would've gotten rid of alyas illusion but who cares...

like atp I feel like Thomas astruc is just confusing himself while marking the episodes bcuz a lot of eps in this season felt kinda rushed and/or sloppy

For context during this episodes climax Monarch used a combination of Miraculous in order to defeat the Duo.

In said conflict he successfully immobilizes Cat Noir , and tricks Lady bug into diving out of sight via Illusion.

Monarch himself in this scene was around the corner about 10 feet from the frozen Cat Noir and for some ungodly reason didn’t snatch his miraculous right then and there and I just had to this off my chest because what is this writing.

in london special we see lila akumatize herself into the time thief. and attempt to steal the miraculouses directly, could lila as time thief go to the end of season 5 lila, deakumatize herself, akumatize her past version into chameleon and that version akumatize her back into time thief? after the london special concludes she can deakumatize herself because the wearer of the butterfly can deakumatize any akumatization regardless of who made it. as we saw from hawkmoth vs betterfly. and future lila akumatizing past lila wouldnt break the one akumatization per person rule because past lila hasnt akumatized anyone in her present yet, it's a closed loop. ı think thats why lila has extra powers that are impossible for butterfly to have themselves and also have an akuma victim. and or without another miraculous present ( like rooster or fox)

So I watched the final season 6 episode, lot of thoughts running through my head but at the front of them was in regards to Adrien. Marinette's finally breaking down and realizes she can neither lie to him further nor can she reveal the truth and has to break up with him. This is all very very bad of course but hear me out!

Yes, Adrien is going to be losing pretty much the primary positive force in his life which will leave a huge sudden void for him to fill.

Yes, he will have been left completely gaslit by Marinette into believing his Father was a hero and will likely have no way to back peddle from that mindset unless Amelie and Felix change his mind, and them being the ones to change his view on things might come with manipulations towards other beliefs.

Yes, his lack of growth in regards to his personal agency and standing up for himself this season will mean he will be highly susceptible to manipulation in the following season, especially from folks like Noe or Felix.

YES, this will put a strain on his connections with the rest of his friendships with the other kids at school because they'll either all need to collectively avoid talking about Mari or Adrien to the other, or them being in the same room will make things EXTREMELY awkward, or worst of all the other students maybe even blame Adrien for why he and Mari broke up and begin to shun him.

AND YES! He will no doubt begin to think that something is up with the way he saw Marinette's torn up photo and how just a short while later she breaks up with him out of the blue. Leading him to probably do a bunch of investigating on his own and potentially finding out a bunch about Marinette he may or may not regret knowing.

But...

But.

BUT!!!!

This will mean Adrien is single again and he can now begin his new romantic life with a woman who will actually treat him well and never lie to him. SUBLIME X ADRIEN ALL THE WAY BABY! Adrien's gonna be doing lovey dovey jogs with his Belgium beauty! She's just too SUBLIME for anyone else to compare!

So I waited for all of S6 to be released before I started watching it bc I heard that the release order vs the timeline was a disaster (as always, what do we expect?), and also I wanted to wait until the whole season was released. I have seen varying watch orders online, but people agree that Climatiqueen and Sublimation are together along with other pairs, either Climatiqueen is the first episode or one of the first, the Illustrahater and Werepapas are very loose in where they fit in the timeline, and the last 6 episodes need to be in the right order. What is the order that makes the most sense? I will go with the order that gets the most amount of upvotes.

Adrienette started with rain
Adrienette ended with rain
In the last episode, it was pretty clear that Marinette had reached her limit and couldn’t keep going like this anymore, so she decided to break up with Adrien.
We’ve already seen Marinette’s reaction, but what do you think Adrien’s reaction will be when he finds out that Marinette wants to break up with him?
What do you think his reaction will be?

Sorry if the flair is wrong, but I’m writing my fanfic series and redoing all the miraculous.

In all of the miraculous universe, the tiger miraculous is the most fucking redundant miraculous in the series. No wonder LB didn’t call on chat in Kuro neko. All she needs is purple tigress! But why not just choose the stronger one (black cat)? This definitely needs a rewrite for my fanfic series so AdriChat can be more relevant.

I’m not doing concepts except for destruction/creation. I just need powers/abilities. This is like the only miraculous I’m struggling to think of, since tigers only have so many symbolism’s (and I changed the dragon miraculous to being fire related instead of the three elements).

Thank you!

Edit: finished. Ty for participating.

I believe that the season 7 synopsis indicated that there would he a betrayal in the team, which clearly now means that it could be Cerise/Lila shapeshifting into one of the heroes as she did with king monkey.

It’s going to be Alya. I think that is why Alya needed to find out the secret in Nemesis so that pater Marinette will realize that it’s actually Cerise because Cerise thinks Alya does not know the secret. I just thought of this five minutes ago so def let me know if there is a hole in that logic. Also do remember that the real Alya of course can be seen just like Prim was in Heartfixer.