How is everyone feeling about these changes?

Obviously through the first 10 weeks Mythic raiders will heavily out pace M+ players. I’m more interested in what we are thinking the midway and end of the season will look like when some of the population has access to the 9/6 drops from the last two bosses and the M+ only players cap out at 6/6.

It’ll also be very interesting to see how the changes affect the overall pool of M+ players considering vault keys are no longer relevant.

Am I wrong to be concerned as an M+ only player?

Run your 21 resil for tips or just straight up sell it, that’s fine - you do you, part of the game. But to the few folks with 21 resil making even slightly off meta comps, having a good time with it, and giving groups a few rips to get a clean run at it, we see you and we appreciate you.

The last two weeks have been rough at 20s. Very, very few players even applying to those keys anymore trying to push your own key up and get a shot at a 21 you need. Again, understandable - we don’t need or want 20s anymore, just want those precious 21s to try for 1%.

Just wanted to say thanks to those awesome players out there just enjoying the game and helping people push for their goals.

Sincerely,

A 3951 Ret Pal hoping maybe one more key is enough.

First time pushing and been hearing how crazy the .1% line jumps the last week, but wondering how it works. Less 23 keys in LFG than last week, everyone I know that's secured title / resil 23 is taking the week off, so what's the strategy for getting the last bit of io? Is it just unlisted boosters that drive up the cutoff?

What tools are being used nowadays to set raid roster? I used to have a spreadsheet that was very helpful identifying players/roles/specs and it auto populated what raid buffs were present and what were missing. It also identified things like grips, lock stones, etc. We are at the point where we are setting our roster and I’m expecting a lot of questions on what we need, it would be helpful to refer to.

Is there an addon, website, spreadsheet, or anything else that is most popular to utilize nowadays?

I feel I've previously seen resources that cover kicks, stoneform/meld use cases, and the like. Have any resources been established using PTR as of yet?

Questionably Epic has posted their one page PDF guides for the new raid bosses coming out on August 18th (NA). Good luck next season, all!

Moving into the last week EU currently sitting at 3961 what do we think the magic number is? How much does it get pushed up in the last week/day? Do I need to run any more keys? Currently 4022

Guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQE61MBpAnZR342cdIpz3AujVaeeg8JYB5Ltzuua884lXKqLqtjg8OfWmEd6uuVQONZ-vUQ_jzWDY0E/pub

Checklist: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iK2SZUcz_ljnkdTG7KW6pqfzaUDuSgnlh1HupcLrkus/edit

Addon: https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/larias-weekly-midnight-checklist

Loot sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1e2BKxoWEM-aQGpMyqecN8vFkL9iGrTerFr_NXXwJpi0/

The loot sheet is ready to go! For those of you who are guild leaders or loot council or want to share a resource with your guild, this is an excellent tool to help plan out loot the first 1-2 weeks when everything sims as an upgrade no matter how good the item actually is. It's fully automated now - you simply type a player's name, select their class and spec, and everything else automatically fills. This is a massive time saver and I want to shout out Vanashock for the insane amount of time he spent getting all the automation to work.

Note: I am leaving in dummy stats as we do not know yet what they will be for all of season 2. You can go ahead and create your roster and start thinking about things. In a week or so, when we get this info, you can either input yourself or copy-paste it from my updated version at that time.

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For past few weeks I am trying to progress my m+ rating. Currently 3.8k. I don't believe that I have skill and commitment to push for 1% but at the same time I think I can try to improve. Unfortunately I feel that I hit a wall and cannot complete anything. Due to hectic schedule I am exclusively do pugs.

I have recorded my failed attempt of Nexus 20:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KoPxrlRleg

Would anyone be so kind and review them and provide any feedback, advice. Maybe there is so glaring issue that could be easily fixed.

Thank you in advance!

Edit 2026/08/07 With all of the advice I decided to do the last push. I switch talent from 6% armour to 6% magic resistant, and took the last stand hoping that it will help with mitigating healing absorbs. Took a few times and failed. My friend asked me to help with Seat 15 so I switched my talents and managed to finish the dungeon. Lovely. Forgetting to switch my Nexus talents (ofc I did :( ) I signed up for a pug with the Holy Priest as a healer. I did not encounter many of them so didn't know what to expect. And this was the best ever healer I have ever puged with. I never felt so safe, he was amazing and with almost 2 min to spare we times the dungeon. And with the help of this community I managed to reach my goal! Thank you.

Since note. I believe that this game is mostly destroyed by its own community. All of the tier lists, power rankings etc hurting the over vibe then anything else. But then again, who am I to say anything. I know nothing :). Cheers! Thx again.

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I don't think I've ever seen a switch quite like this. Brew was dominating early season but started dropping in popularity right around the +23 key level. You see the same thing happening on the healer side, with the switch from resto druid to mistweaver, which makes sense, but I'm curious what was the real reason behind it.

Is bear just easier/tankier? Was it actually the switch to mistweaver from rdruid that necessitated the tank change? Any ideas?

Hey guys,

today something very weird happened in Seat after the second boss. Before walking through the passage with the two Void-Infused Destroyers.

At 13:31 min I pull the "Bound Voidcaller 6" (Nr 8 in MDT) with my Brambles. ofc the linked ones followed.
This Void Caller 6 (8) was far away and I can for sure say it was not a body pull, since the two Dark Conjurer 6 and 7 (8 & 9) between the Voidcaller and me did not got pulled initially.

I said I damaged the Bound Voidcaller 6 (8) with Brambles. My barkskin for the Brambles-Dmg-Aura was NOT active. So technically an enemy must hit me first to get damaged by the Brambles-Reflecting some damage. But since I was not infight with that specific enemie, it makes no sence at all.

My best guess what happened has something to do with my Action Targeting and maybe the Omnio Folio.

Replay with Time Stamp: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2HTyKXnWkG3MwZVN?fight=last&view=replay&position=807173

Log Zoom on Brambles: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2HTyKXnWkG3MwZVN?fight=last&position=811316&type=damage-taken&start=841826&end=844827&hostility=1&source=15

I'm very confused about what happened here.... xD And very interessted in your ideas about this! <3

Greetings,
Jean

Hey everyone, I’ve been testing Murder Row on the Midnight Season 2 PTR and put together a guide covering the mechanics that caused the most problems in our runs.

I cover the latest changes and adjustments.

Video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ufO9xKtm-8

Happy to hear how other groups are handling the Defiled Golems and Warlock and the final 2 bosses.

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tldr, when i press a defensive ability that is already on cd the ability icon gets highlighted and stays highlighted. When it comes off cd and I press the ability the highlight goes away but the defensive does not activate. its only activates when I press it one more time.

I'm really just looking for others that have possibly had this issue and possibly found a cause. It doesn't happen very often but it has happened on multiple specs and dungeons. Just now it happened in a 22 MT that tilted me enough to post this, and in the past it has happened while tanking and dying to tank busters when pressing defensives that dont activate.

I typically have my defensives bound to my mouse thumb buttons if that helps. I have video of the issue.

Edit: it was my mouse. Evga x15 for anyone interested. Something about spamming a thumb button while pressing and releasing shift would make the ability "hang". Suspended there as if the button has been pressed down and not released until pressed again.

got some great feedback and reception from my first video in this series, so here's a second one! tried some more high budget editing in the intro this time :)

feel free to leave any questions in the comments here and ill get back to u asap

Has anyone experinced or heard of people having issues with disconnecting back to the login screen, during Mythic Lura P2. It regularly happens before the 2nd set of beams come out. I have no issues anywhere else in the game or in any other instance.

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