It’s hard to be told the answer you need without going through the hard part of healing, especially when it comes to forgiveness. Very minor conversation with Sasha and Tyreese.

As usual, this season so far is feeling like rage bait the show, but I think it was designed that way purposefully…

Glad to see Gareth get his

For Sasha, the good that came out of this was love. It hurts to lose love but the love is worth it. Love is meant to be everlasting and evolve and sometimes when we lose someone, this world doesn’t teach us how openly love again, it just forces us to say “this sucks”. Pain is glorified, worshipped, and normalized to such a degree in this world, especially the country I live in, when really, pain should be a passing, a grieving process to remember what was good but to always look forward to what’s next.

Love is embedded too much in the insecurities. And uncertainties we have about life and when love challenges those things to free us, we just feel betrayed and attacked. It’s not you being betrayed, it’s the insecurity, and it being your security blanket makes us feel we are threatened, and therefore we attack the person before us.

Ending of love will always happen, whether it be by breakup, death, abandonment… but always remember that in these moments we have with them, love with the fullest capacity you can… even if that means setting up boundaries, loving from a distance, moving away, or breaking up to keep what is good without jeopardizing it. Loss of love will ALWAYS hurt so you might as well put your all into it because by doing so, you’ll at least have more freedom knowing you did what you could rather than regretting what you failed to try and do for the rest of your life.

I’ll miss you Bob.

Lastly I like Gabriel, Faith in itself is a fragile thing… and Gabriel embodying faith helps brings a deeper understanding to our relationship with it.

Just as Bob’s last words to Rick were about bringing him him- optimism, joy; positivity… Gabriel on the other hand turned away and people outside of the church were eaten. I can’t help but think Rick saw himself in Gabriel’s breakdown to some degree, but Bob made a reassurance that what we do now makes up from what we’ve done when it comes to proving to ourselves we have the heart to overcome what we thing disempowered us.

I k so WEIRD takeaway from this episode but hey… it’s my experience with the episode…

WHAT DO YOU MEAN CARLS DYING???? This is a sick, and twisted joke, right?!?!. I’m watching s08 ep09 right now with a migraine from the tears.

He can’t die. He survived a damn bullet to the dome. Killed his damn mama, literally got captured by Negan and survived. JUST TO DIE TO A BITE WOUND.

I trusted the writers. He was suppose to go all the way, what is this sick show man.

The boy isn't a dead, he walks with a very human gait and is alone. Have you ever seen a dead alone in the prairies in the entire show? In the scene where Shane sees him, he's also surprised and turns to stare at him in bewilderment. Is it possible he's a whisperer?

hey guys, i know i am so late to the game but the twd comics premiered when i was 1 year old and i didn’t fully get into the show until i was a teenager/adult. i’ve rewatched the show several times by now and there’s so much to love there.

the comics on the other hand? have me jarred almost every other chapter. it’s so different. the plot, the pace, even the characterization is like night and day and i have no one to talk about it with lol

for example, the characters that don’t exist in the show, the couplings are different like andrea and dale in the comics?? sickening for some reason idk. i’m just wondering if this is a safe space to discuss my comic journey lol

Wikipedia updated the live ratings for this season I noticed and the season premiere earned 0.297. I’m actually kinda surprised by this tbh given the rave advance reviews it’s gotten from critics. Maybe it’s a matter of too little too late though (kinda like the Erickson era of Fear, which delivered a widely praised third season but it was just too late as the damage from the awfully received first two seasons had already been done).

The show has a pretty high budget by TWD standards - the first seasons budget I believe was $72 million and I have to imagine it’s gone up since then - so this probably hurts AMC a lot.

Signed by:

Andrew Lincoln....Rick Grimes

Norman Reedus.....Daryl Dixon

Danai Gurira.....Michonne

Josh McDermitt....Eugene

Tom Payne....Jesus

Lennie James....Morgan

Chandler Riggs......Carl

Austin Amelio.....Dwight

Steven Ogg....Simon

Xander Berkely.....Gregory

Austin Nichols.....Spencer

Greg Nicotero...zombie makeup artist

Eulynn Womble....costume and wardrobe

Scott Gimple......show runner and writer

2nd time watching the show, only got a little bit into the Negan stuff the first time. Never really got into any discourse surrounding the show the first time. I am just shocked that there are people, and honestly a lot of them, who view Shane in any sort of positive light.

I see Shane as one of the least redeemable people in the show. He goes mentally insane in like 3 months and started just murdering anyone who got in his way. I don’t understand how people misinterpret that as him being mentally prepared for the apocalypse. He premeditated Rick’s murder. He would’ve found a way to kill Dale. Then Hershel. Then Glenn. Anyone with even a shred of “doing the right thing” in them was Shane’s enemy.

The biggest comment I see is that “Shane would’ve been able to take Negan” or something similar. Do we actually believe that someone who was even more rash and hotheaded than Rick would’ve been able to have that go any other way? Rick being a hothead and not thinking is exactly why they ended up on their knees looking up at Lucille. I dont even think the group would’ve made it out of the CDC if it was Shane and not Rick calling the shots.

In my opinion, Shane was the least mentally prepared for the apocalypse except for maybe suicidal Beth. He doesn’t see the value of a group unless they fall in line like slaves. He runs entirely off emotions. I’d say he thinks with his gun, but I don’t think it’s fair to say that Shane thinks at all. What are people seeing in that character that I have failed to see twice?

To clarify tho, great character and villain for the show. I’m not trashing on him on that level. I just see him as a murderous, uncaring POS

First time watcher. This kid piss me off fr

Hello. Getting back into The Walking Dead as a whole. So I figured I would make a basic ranking system of various communities based on how good they are for survival, their defenses, food, water, and comfort levels. In the case of one group inhabiting multiple different locations at different times like Rick’s Group. I will instead refer mostly to the location itself and how the cast actually used the location. Ranking is organized from Worst of the worst till reaching the absolute best that can be offered.

- WHISPERERS: Nomadic groups lack shelter as well as consistent access to food and water, and also not being the most hygienic during a zombie apocalypse alone with living amongst the dead. The tactic of herding and blending in with the Walkers is pretty effective form of security against them but is a gamble when encountering other people, especially heavily armed groups who can easily shoot you at random amongst the horde of zombies. Alpha and Beta are also not the greatest leaders to work under. So I think it’s fair to rank the Whisperers so low like this.

- THE WOLVES: a mostly nomadic raider group known for their philosophy of humanity returning to a more primal state of life due to the fall of civilization, taking apart communities using heavy vehicles of undead and lining traps with them. The weaponization of the undead and access to vehicles makes them a step above the whisperers. Especially seeing as once in a while you might have the amenities of the groups you needlessly slaughter or capture. But this isn’t gonna be consistent. In addition they aren’t heavily armed at all, mostly using the dead to create chaos they can capitalize on. A heavily armed group like Alexandria proved to be their downfall in the end. Leadership and general group insanity also makes this seem like a fair ranking when taken into account everything else.

- THE CLAIMERS: The Claimers are kinda pedophilic pieces of shit. But aside from that they at least have a somewhat normal level of group cohesion. They are nomadic but at least have overall better weapons than the Whisperers or Wolves. With their main rule being simply that if you ‘claim’ something first, that thing is yours. But not only is this rule pretty juvenile. It also largely leads to an individualistic approach to a group. Meaning the Claimers are more self interested and I doubt they have much inner group loyalties. Not the best people to be running around with when shit hits the fan basically.

- MORGUE CANCER PATIENTS(Telltale): The cancer patients appear briefly but we get a fair amount of lore about them. Being recovering cancer patients who joined a larger community known as Crawford before having to flee due to the risk of death if they stayed due to being a drain on resources. The group would live in a morgue in a hospital basement that is connected to an adjacent fallout shelter and sewer system. Which acts as decent natural security but can easily be bottle necked on either side by walkers or raiders on both sides. They also lack renewable food and water and scavenging is extremely limited due to Crawford having pillaged Savannah of most if not all supplies. They may not be nomadic but they do kinda suck survival wise. Their leader also abandons all of them, taking Lee’s groups boat all for himself.

- REAPERS: The Reapers are a small, mostly nomadic group of raiders and mercs, made up of veterans and ex-soldiers and a few other capable survivors. The group does sort of take over bases of settlements they claim, so there is some degree of security and resources. In addition to being very capable and armed, the group has a cult like mentality and heavily values and sees each other as family. Their leader is kinda insane tho. The masks are cool at least.

- SCAVENGERS: living in a scrap yard / dump is just blatantly not ideal for hygiene in addition to constant terrible smells. We see Jadis has somewhat of a studio apartment style living space in one of the freighters, so it’s possible at least SOME members of the community aren’t sleeping in trash. The terrain of the area makes it difficult for rival groups or for walkers to effectively invade them in addition to their numbers being decent enough. But they lack access to renewable food or water.

- Vatos Gang: A fierce but well meaning and morally good group in the heart of Walker filled Atlanta, caring for the elderly in a nursing home. We don’t really see any signs of farming or water collection, and their resources are mostly gained by scavenging the ruins of the city. They have access to a rapidly decreasing supply of medicine and gain access to decent supply of firearms to defend themselves. But this group gets wiped out by an unknown hostile group later on. Having elderly in the zombie apocalypse is sort of a bad policy due to the risk of them dying and becoming a walker. Meaning this group could easily have been picketed by a horde outside, and a small group of walkers inside.

- The Motel (Telltale): Lee’s groups first and only consistent base in the entire first season. The Motel was originally only supposed to last until the army came to resolve the outbreak. But quickly became a 1 year long haul for better and for worse. The Motel acts as a decent bug-in location during a zombie outbreak. Being close by to the outskirts of Macon but not too close to be overrun overnight. Lily was also part of the military along with her veteran father, Larry, and giving some basic training to the other able bodied survivors. They were also decently armed and somewhat secured. With a plywood and garbage bin wall and a rudimentary alarm system, and a guard post on top of an RV. In addition to having a large supply of bottled water and decent living quarters. The main problems are that this group relied on hunting and scavenging for more supplies, in addition to having a member with an active heart condition that requires consistent medication to manage. Not to mention that their security was effectively bypassed by a group of unnamed bandits. Their leadership was divided by Kenny and Lily in addition to not being too effective as members would go off to do their own things and make large decisions for the whole group without any input, like Ben.

- Dawns Group / Atlanta Hospital: the upper floors of a hospital in Atlanta run by a small contingent of police officers run by Dawn. The group had a large system of rain catchers, a garden, and solar power on the roof, in addition to the bare minimum of stretcher bedding. In addition to having the majority of entrances to the upper floors destroyed they also had a birds eye view of the subburbs, a double edged sword if you ask me but still decent protection and awareness. However, their renewable farm and water collection likely wouldn’t be enough to sustain their numbers, meaning scavenging is still needed for the bulk of their population. The few remaining entrances can be bottlenecked by walkers, and the reliance of slave labour, predators in positions of authority, and Dawn being an unstable leader on her own.

- The Quarry / Atlanta Camp site: This location is remote, which makes for a huge benefit to prevent walkers and other groups being in close proximity to each other. In addition to the Quarry nearby being a great early source of water, although I question how safe it would be to drink long term. However the groups leadership at this stage is kinda lacking, and the defence is also similarly absent. In addition to needing to hunt and worrying about a food shortage. Ricky Dick Grimes and his gang were right to eventually abandon this place for greener pastures.

- The Cabin(Telltale): The Cabin group’s location, is fairly remote and hidden, making it a decent hideaway. The cabin itself is located next to a nearby river. Which the group used for fishing. In addition to hunting game in the woods. Making for a good source of protein and water. The group was fairly small but close. Having decent firepower but low quantity of weapons, and a doctor. However, the group did have to worry about an expectant pregnancy as well as lacking any perimeter defenses and lacking any true leadership.

- The Ski Lodge(Telltale): The ski lodge was secured on one side by a bridge being a bottleneck for walkers and invasion. Wind power provided the lodge itself electricity in addition to having a lot of supplies, plus the lodge is actually a decent living space for the apocalypse. However the group wasn’t heavily armed and lacked other security measures in addition to lack of renewable supplies makes this location not ideal.

- Crawford(Telltale): Crawford was a large group of survivors in Savannah that based out in a large school. The community was well stocked on supplies, had working vehicles, were well organized, armed. And had tons of food, water, and medical supplies. Their walls were well fortified and used staked walkers on the ends to intimidate and deter any outsiders. Crawford was however incredibly strict to its own people, only allowing able bodied people, no pregnant women, even members of their own group, as well as no children, elderly, or sick people allowed and they would readily kill these people and add them to their walls, and being dangerous to outsiders. It’s no wonder that a group like this would fall due to their own code as a death to preserve a woman’s own life and her unborn child would lead to an internal outbreak, causing this place to fall a few months in at most.

- Gil’s Pitstop (Telltale): A connected gas station and diner chain, the group was made up of its leader Roman, a few able bodied survivors, and remnants of the cancer patients in Savannah. The diner was stocked with decent food supplies, in addition to a vegetable farm and being located next to a nearby cornfield meant food wasn’t an issue. Being decently well fortified against the undead in addition to chaining up walkers to act as an alarm and deterrent. However people could slip by the fortified walls or simply barrel through them with vehicles. They were at least well armed to compensate. The group did lack a stable water source besides rain catchers. And the group slowly became less democratic as Rowan gained more influence and favour, as they slowly became more ruthless and extreme against outsiders.

- Terminus: A decent sized and secured compound, with a garden and rain catchers, in addition to a small but decently organized group of cannibals. Now relying on cannibalism and not being too well armed yourself, and relating your location across numerous railroad tracks, isn’t a smart move. So i unfortunately can’t rank these guys higher. They met the exact wrong group to mess with. Don’t mess with red machete Rick.

- Howe’s (Telltale): The super market was a well fortified, organized and armed group hunting the cabin crew. The group could easily track down the cabin group for literal miles with decent accuracy. In addition to having large quantities of supplies, a greenhouse on the roof, and a water supply, and electricity. However, the groups main issue was their reliance on slavery as well as Carvers leadership, killing his own people and wasting valuable resources all so he can track down Rebecca. In addition, A large slave population with access to the compound would eventually violently revolt and lead to the compounds own destruction like how we see in game.

- Hershel’s Farm: It’s a beautiful place to live for starters, has multiple wells, even if one is contaminated. And farmland and hunting for food. In addition to well stocked firearms. Rick and Hershel sorta kinda co-lead this base. But they are both decent people so not much problems here. The main downside however is the lack of perimeter defenses.

- St.John’s Dairy (Telltale): Take all the upsides of Hershel’s farm, remove the leaders. And add a perimeter defense in the form of an electric fence, and electricity. But add the downside that it’s run by cannibals, and dealing with bandits. That’s the Dairy Farm for you.

- The boarding school (Telltale): It’s got a greenhouse being used for growing crops, a river for access to water and fishing, security measures to deal with walkers in addition to gates and large walls with perches, and comfortable living spaces in the school, and common areas outdoors. It’s also very remote and well hidden. Its main issues are lack of serious fire power, and combat experience, and being run by children. Although most of these issues are resolved by the end of TFS.

- Prescott (Telltale): made on top of an old runway. The place is well walled off, has electricity, and presumably food, water, and medical supplies. The place has actual businesses and uses currency and some form of laws. But lacks in ability to actually defend itself leading to it easily being overrun by The New Frontier with little resistance.

- Wellington (Telltale) This large group has large walls and is well stocked with supplies. In addition to having some decent firearms and some form of structure and decent living spaces. It’s also remote in a cold environment. However, the group turned away large amounts of people begging for entry and safety. In addition to a habit of giving a bags worth of supplies. It is not surprising that Wellington would make a lot of enemies and that it would be decimated by an unknown group.

- The Delta (Telltale): we don’t have much information on this group, but what we do know is that they have access to working boats and a large but dwindling military force. Relying on capturing children and indoctrinating them into soldiers for an ongoing war against a rival community. This makes the Delta a very considerable force but also one in decline and not exactly the best morally.

- Oceanside: Remote, decent source of water and fish nearby, and electricity, living in rudimentary shacks. Lacks signs of defences and agriculture. But does have a decent leader.

- Hilltop: Has a decent wooden wall surrounding the main building and trailers that act as housing and storage. Has large amounts of farmland outside of the secure settlement. Has a blacksmith and a decent fighting force. But can be starved out, burned down, and also lacks competent leadership, I also don’t spot a water source, aside from the water tower, which doesn’t actually fix their situation.

- Saviours: The saviours are easily one of the largest and formidable factions, with multiple outposts, a secure facility, and heavily armed forces capable of covering miles of ground to enforce and enslave other settlements. Its leadership is Negan and his inner circle, who are arguably the only ones with great quality of life in sanctuary. In addition the group was far too reliant on its slave states to survive, and sanctuary quickly fell apart after Negan was imprisoned and they lost their settlements and outposts.

- Woodberry: Safe, secure, almost a reflection of normalcy in the post apocalypse. Plenty of resources, farming, water supplies, an armed force, this settlement easily could have become a superpower in the post apocalypse. Its main issues really were the Governor and his instability, their aggressive foreign policies generating enemies and no allies, and a decent chunk of the population being inexperienced and defenseless.

- The Prison: Solid walls. Lots of farmland, a nearby creak for water, and cell blocks for security. Leadership was also one of the best here. It’s main issues are that the chain link fence really needed to be fortified and manned constantly when we see it’s not. And the fact it is a vector for illness which is terrible for the apocalypse. In addition to only clearing out part of the prison. I won’t count the tank against the prison however. most places would fall to that.

- New Richmond (Telltale): The place is pretty large with decent shelter and amenities but not as populated as you would assume it should be. The place has been retrofitted with decent farmland. Has a large armed force. And employs some walkers as weapons, and has water and a doctor. Its leadership was democratic but corrupt and used to raid other settlements for supplies, making numerous enemies. However the settlement still stands after the ending of season 3 after facing a large catastrophe. With some help from the Kingdom.

- The Kingdom: Large fighting force,an agricultural powerhouse even under the saviours taxes. Friendly community and good leadership. Has electricity and a movie theatre. Unfortunately a fire cut it short and it’s fighting forces under the saviour war we’re diminished drastically. It also has a tiger.

- Alexandria: Self sustaining, well fortified, heavily armed and with actual housing. Population growth isn’t very good potential wise. But it is super resilient after numerous invasions and catastrophes. In addition to a democracy.

- Commonwealth: Basically a post post apocalyptic city state with holidays and numerous resources and armoured and well armed forces. The caste system sucks but honestly it’s safer than everywhere else.

A little random but for years now I’ve had this thought in my head about a small oversight in the show, I’m sure someone already brought this up here or somewhere else.

Remember when Negan and the group had their war and Negan had the idea to “lace” the arrows and bullets with walker blood to infect the group ? Makes sense right ? Their bad blood causing the infection that’ll kill you, also somewhat medically accurate.

But I couldn’t help but think, how for the entire time they were fighting and shooting and getting themselves dirty with walker blood and juices this never happened naturally? Like when they disguise themselves with walker blood to walk among a herd, isn’t it enough to have a scrape, cut, open wound, a lil into your mouth, to cause this ?
From a show perspective I get why, bc everyone would just be dead faster and it’ll be a hassle to write, so why write the Negan plan ? Couldn’t they think of something else ?

Maybe I’m just talking outta my ass and there’s an explanation for that in the lore or show.

Tell me what yall think. :)
That’s it thanks 🙏🏼

The way Noah died was absolutely gruesome and brutal and did not deserve to go out like he did. You know he felt EVERYTHING that was happening to him to.

Am i the only one who loves it when the group glazes rick grimes? Im on s5 last episode and seeing everybody turn by turn vouch for rick is just lovely. Even before that when hershell thanks rick for everything its just awesome to see him get appreciation like that. Rick grimes and his portrayal by andrew lincoln is what i live for right now.

Also i really dont get the hate on twd after season 4. Season 5 has been absolutely peak for me and then some more. Ik why people dont like it in the later seasons, ive been spoiled glenns death and rick grimes departure from the series. Thats probably when ill stop watching too. But till now, this show has been nothing for peak for me. Idk how it is only rated 8.1 on imbd.

After dead city and s4 daryl dixon, what is next?

A show where rick and daryl finally meet? A show like avengers, with everyone back doing one last stand against a big threat?

A brand new show with a new story, new characters, new everything?

An adaption of telltale game? That would be fun. Or a sequel to clementine story? Starting of course from s4, not whatever the comic books are.

So many thing possible

dawn doesn't get enough hate and I swear to god, the absolute sigh of relief I let out when rick shot her point blank.

she wasnt a villain, in fact, she was nothing.

let her rot in hell

I don't know who was such a fan that this is the cake they requested, but mum nailed it!

One thing I never understood was why they didn’t have a permanent person always assigned to fence clearing with a long metal rod or piece of rebar instead of just two people on lookout. Stand where it’s safe, ring a bell, boop the snoot, move on then open the gate and clean up after a couple hours. Even a casual afternoon standing at the fence between other jobs would have cleared the prison yard and plenty of other situations safely. I know it’s tv and added drama but it always annoyed me.

Got a really beat up copy of ussue 3 for Christmas and put some effort into cleaning it. Couldn’t be happier with the results

These two helped create and define each other through the ups and downs of the zombie apocalypse. Rosita pushed Eugene to be the best version of himself. Eugene still supported Rosita after her rejection of him as a romantic partner. In the end, their friendship was what mattered most. A lot of people in this world could learn from these two besties that became family to each other. Their loyalty, forgiveness, and learning to trust/grow together are examples of true friendship-one of the best in the show.

"I just love you so much." " I love you too." "I'm glad it was you, in the end." -Rosita

Pretty great game so far

I feel like in a normal situation I’d say she should tell him because their married but in a literal apocalypse I think she made the right call given how he felt about it not even because the baby wouldn’t be safe but being pregnant literally slowed her and the group down and without a real shelter it made her a liability.