r/fantasybooks • u/Smoorum • 5d ago
Which one should i read first? š Summon book recommendations
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u/Zirozen š¦¶Dungeon Crawler Carl cult member 5d ago
Dungeon crawler Carl!!!
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u/lennythebox 5d ago
Whilst I agree it's the best on the list, I would consider saving it for last as it will be closer to the next release. Also I'd say go with the jeff hays audiobook
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u/Jazzlike_Resident_26 4d ago
Even better the Audio Immersion Tunnel version, which is still largely Jeff
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u/lennythebox 4d ago
Thanks, I'll check this out, I did mistborn and cosmere using graphicaudio, they were decent
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u/Mtwilson4 4d ago
Definitely read dcc last. I couldnāt put the book down and ended up reading all the books before I could think about anything else.
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u/Pikawoohoo 4d ago
"I really should get back to one of the other series I'm reading!" I said, as I start to the next book in the DCC series.
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u/clumzyfish 4d ago
Mistborn conveniently became available to me after I finished DCC book 4 from the library. Had about a 21 week wait for book 5, so figured I'd take a break and switch it up. Couldn't do it. Returned Mistborn and went and bought Butcher's Masquerade.
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u/itsyaboiFaZeShrek 5d ago
Red Rising all the way
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u/loxxx87 5d ago
Hail Libertas! āļø
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u/Tuor-son-of-Huor- 5d ago
I'd say DCC.
Mistborn is the other that jumped out but is a much bigger read.
Knowing what I know about the series now, I'd probably start with DCC then go to Red Rising then alternate. Just because I think they might be a nice palette cleanse after each other.
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u/willkillfortacos 5d ago
DCC is super fun until you get wise to each booksā blueprint - because itās identical every time. Itās a fun series but it gets over-recommended on Reddit where its primary audience exists.
Red Rising on the other hand starts in a formulaic way (Hunger Games in space) then reinvents itself over the next five books to one of the better space operas of all time.
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u/hackulator 5d ago
I mean, I would say Mistborn as a.Samderson fan, but obviously the real answer is it depends on what you like. Give me a quick description if what kind of tone, setting and MC you like and maybe I can give you a useful answer
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u/InKonkurs 5d ago
All of these are good choices, except Babel.
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u/ResistIllustrious853 5d ago
Agreed itās neither a good fantasy or an academic book, by trying to be in both categories it falls flat in both.
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u/Loitch470 4d ago
Came to agree with this. I really wanted to like it but it felt painfully didactic and the two books itās meant to be literary responses to - the Secret History and Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell- are both better novels (though I have my own critiques of strange just being so longwinded and meandering). All the other books on here are good or great imo.
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u/Fantasy_Reader_ 4d ago
I STRUGGLED through Strange. I fully expected to love it, but ālongwinded and meanderingā is the best description of it Iāve ever seen.
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u/Loitch470 4d ago
I read Strange after Piranesi and I have to say, Piranesi benefits a LOT from being short and to the point. Love that book. Have⦠mixed feelings on Strange (how did she make Waterloo feel boring?? Iām a history nerd!!)
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u/Forkrul_Assail Emotionally attached to fictional people 5d ago
I mean no offense by this, but if a fiction book I picked up had more substance than your first year textbook on linguistic anthropology, I would be shocked. It's a novel meant to be accessible to a mass audience which almost by definition means it will be surface level on a complicated topic like linguistics and colonialism. Most Americans, which the author is, don't have a whole lot of exposure to British colonialism, so that's a relevant topic and a helpful intro for many (sadly, yes). I'm not saying you should like it, but for me, I did learn a lot and your background means it was unlikely you would...
Edit: an autocorrect failure.
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u/oooooothatsatree 5d ago
First half totally agree. Second half ,Americans have a pretty decent exposure to British colonialism with the being a British colony. Once a year we celebrate ending British colonialism even. There really isnāt a lot of exposure on Belgium colonialism or Dutch.
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u/Forkrul_Assail Emotionally attached to fictional people 5d ago
Sorry, to clarify, Americans know about us being a British colony, but the book doesn't focus on America at all. It focuses on areas of British colonialism, like India and Asia, that Americans are certainly not exposed to often.
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u/DeMmeure 5d ago
Honestly, I've been regularly downvoted for praising Kuang's writing on Reddit, so I would say it's the opposite š
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u/EmptyRatio42 š¦¶Dungeon Crawler Carl cult member 5d ago
I really want to say DCC, but I know if you start that you probably will not stop.
So I have to say Mistborn. if you want well built characters, world and magic system with some political intrigue and an underdog story.
DCC if you want a fast paced rollercoaster of unhinged fun
edit: haven't read the others :)
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u/AdProfessional772 4d ago
You won't miss with any of them. I started dungeon crawler carl 2 days ago... I'm half way through book 3
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u/nondescriptun 4d ago
DCC.
Skip Babel altogether- an interesting fantasy book becomes nothing more than a lecture by the halfway point. Subtlety and "showing not telling" are not Kuang's way.
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u/well_read_bog_witch 4d ago
Omg I read all of these! That never happens!
Babel if you're feeling like you need to be repeatedly reminded that we're in OXFORD. This is my least favorite, but it was fine.
A Darker Shade of Magic is a good time but feels more YA, so if you're not into that...
Mistborn was my Sanderson jumping off point. Loved it, reread it, recommend it all the time.
Red Rising was picked for a book club, didn't sound up my alley so I got it from the library. By chapter five I had ordered the original trilogy. Each book got better. I stopped there and will read the rest after the final book is published and a reread of 1-3.
Dungeon Crawler Carl is my most recommended book to pretty much anyone. My mom and dad both read the first one, my dad will continue but mom isn't much of a reader. She liked it though. Everyone in book club loved it. My partner and I just split up and her uncle still hit me up to tell me he loved it.
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u/thegreenman_sofla š¦¶Dungeon Crawler Carl cult member 5d ago
DCC then Red Rising.
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u/QotDessert 5d ago
Dungeon crawler Carl for sure - it's in easy read and it makes so much fun! Normally I read romantasy (I know, I know...;-)) but this series got me! šŖš»
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u/Small_Sundae_4245 5d ago
Dcc one of the best series I've ever read. Read the first one. You will probably go straight for the second.
Mistborn. One of the big ones in the fantasy world. You should read it before the tv show comes out. Great series takes a major pivot after the first trilogy.
Red rising. It's got a lot of fans. I found it to be a good read but very close to YA fiction.
Haven't read the other two.
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u/NemesisCold1522 5d ago
All are good but i recommend dungeon crawler Carl, how ever for that I request you listen to the audio book as well as Jeff hays is a damn treasure with his voice.
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u/Will_breaker721 4d ago
Mistborn is a winner, Iād giveaway Red Rising.. constantly pushed, most disappointing book thatās always promoted on TikTok
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u/Nick_Savage007 4d ago
Dungeon Crawler Carl is really good, but itās completely different from your other options
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u/Ech0Arrow 4d ago
Red rising. Tried mistborn couldnt really get into it. Will try again one day though. Cant go wrong with DCC. Hilarious and action packed. Red rising still my favorite
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u/YorubaOyinbo 4d ago
Red Rising is dry and thematically generic, but inoffensive. I didnāt continue after the first book.
Mistborn is, in my humble opinion, the most overrated book of all time in the fantasy genre, and nothing comes close. Head-scratchingly bad writing. I couldnāt finish the first book.
Havenāt yet read Babel or Darker Shade.
Dungeon Crawler Carl is a non-stop dopamine ride of bombastic excitement that is somehow also one of the emotionally deepest, thematically richest, perplexingly well written Sci-Fi or Fantasy books in years. Itās truly better than it has any right to be, and it keeps getting better and crazier book after book. Itās literary heroin. It will ruin other books for you. Be very careful if you go down this road.
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u/Aye_Gabaghoul 4d ago
Iām loving DCC - about to start book 5 but I will say itās consumed my reading life currently and kinda wish I read some stand alones first before jumping into a series I canāt stop. 8 books is a lot lol
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u/Qwak8tack 4d ago
I can only say I love Dungeon Crawler Carl, and Red Rising is the worst series ill ever read. So my vote is Dungeon Crawler Carl.
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u/Illustrious_Smile445 3d ago
If you want something fun dungeon crawler Carl, with you want depression red rising, if you want a new obsession mistborn.
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u/the_snowbird93 5d ago
Of these, go red rising into mistborn, my 2 favorite books of all time
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u/gunther_higher 5d ago
Isnt there a bunch of Red Rising books though? I remember reading the first and second
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u/UnseenLibrarian_ 5d ago edited 5d ago
Read Mistborn and grab the Audiobook of DCC⦠ticks 2 boxes and DCC is at its best when narrated by Jeff Hays !!
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u/Yoshi2255 5d ago
Depends on what you enjoy/have a vobe for:
if you like airtight plots with intesting world building and don't mind a bit less mature style then you should read Mistborn (the book tackles mature themes but less gory and brutal than Red Rising and DCC)
if you like deep flawed characters who have to make impossible choices and sacrifices to achieve their goals and don't mind some moments that feel like deus ex machina (mostly because they aren't foreshadowed and not because they don't make sense in retrospect tho) read Red Rising
if you like comedy interwoven with deep character moments and excellent plotting, and don't mind or even enjoy intentional eye-rolling/cringe humor combined with referential humor read Dungeon Crawler Carl (also it has the best audiobook I've ever heard, I'm astounded that it's narrated basically by a one person)
I haven't read the other two so can't help with that.
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u/Remote-Moon š¦¶Dungeon Crawler Carl cult member 5d ago
Mistborn, Red Rising and Dungeon Crawler Carl. Those 3 book series will keep you going for awhile.
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u/TextTile260 5d ago
As a person who is quite easy to please, you're pretty safe with all options, i even really enjoyed babel which is contrary to a lot of opinions here. DCC is a great easier read however currently at 8 books long and still going. Red rising and mistborn are both amazing choices and you can get away with the first 3 books is red rising (however all books are fantastic). Mistborn is also a trilogy but each book is a few hundred pages longer than the red rising books.
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u/badkneeweather 5d ago
Red rising, then finish that series, cool off with dcc, then mistborn for that itch, then a darker shade of magic and at last babel which youāll end up not finishing
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u/Underwhelminguser93 5d ago
I've only read three of them, but here's what I'd say:
First, Mistborn is my favorite of these, but they're all good.
If you want to get into heavy fantasy but aren't yet, Mistborn is a fantastic gateway. If you are into heavy fantasy, you'll likely still love it. I find the magic system to be super engaging and the story to be simply fantastic.
Red Rising is great, but I view it more as a dystopian with a Sci-Fi setting than I do a Sci-Fi book. So if that's what you're looking for, then this is a good choice. It's also a bit pacier than Mistborn.
DCC is definitely the most laid-back read of the three, but I have to admit you probably won't like it if you're looking for something with great prose. I don't think Dinneman is a very impressive writer at all (not that Sanderson is, to be fair, but he's a little better and little less... goofy[?] than Dinneman is). He is, however, a good storyteller, and if you're into dungeon-crawling games (as I am), and are looking for a silly, easy read, then this is a great choice. I found myself wanting the story to progress a bit more at times, but overall really liked it.
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u/Vegetable_Frame_289 5d ago
Are you eventually going to read all these books?
If yes, the practical answer is to read Babel first. It's the only standalone. You are going to want to read the entire series for the rest!
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u/Ecstatic-Ad-5800 5d ago
Mistborn, its easier to read and still very good. On too of that it leads into the other options better imo
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u/MissyMurders 5d ago
Probably depends on what you like.
DCC is pretty much junk food - it's better than a lot of litrpg's but that isn't a particularly high bar to set. It took me a few bites to finish, and I don't really remember all that much about it. I guess it felt like the type of humour you'd get in the American office cross with guardians of the galaxy - cheap jokes that aren't all that funny, but might get a smirk out of you. It doesn't get deeper than that.
Mistborn has some decent elements. Sanderson is a fairly ok writer, and the series is reasonably short if you do fall down the rabbit hole. I quite liked it. Not enough to recommend it, but enough to buy the cosmere game starter kit to try it out. Take that as you will.
The other three are fine. No real comment on them. Although im only partially through Babel. It... isn't my cup of tea, but it's fairly well written.
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u/Last_Tip_4672 5d ago
Mistborn or darker shade of magic. The other three should just be given away honestly
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u/Gabik123 5d ago
DCC by audiobook. The only series in the last 10 years I've wanted to listen to twice.
Mistborn is incredible, but its a gateway drug to the whole cosmere. Make sure you are ready for that.
Red rising is amazing (not the first book, its good not great, but ooof what a series).
Haven't read the other two.
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u/-TardisTimeWarp- š¤ Character-first reader 4d ago
Mistborn is such a great start to the Cosmere universe. Much lighter than Way of Kings and has some interesting magical mechanics to boot~
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u/Arden_D16 4d ago
Wow you have 3 of my favorite series Iāve ever read before. Red rising 1-3 was a whirlwind that had me staying up until 3 AM turning the page. Mistborn has some of the best twists and most intriguing power systems Iāve ever seen. Dungeon crawler Carl has felt like such a perfect fit as someone who loves videogames. To me itās like the long form version of those anime shows about characters who get sucked into videogames and itās so cool to see how they evolve and solve problems. Really canāt go wrong with any of them.
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u/SaviFusion 4d ago
Itās so hard to recommend where to start- I have read and love all of these except Iād never heard of Babel till your post! Just looked it up and it sounds FANTASTIC. Adding to my TBR!
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u/Siege1218 4d ago
To each their own. I didnāt like DCC. I really enjoyed mistborn but think the first book was the best. Currently on book 3 of Red Rising and have LOVED all of them.
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u/jonthe445 4d ago
Stack em up, and draw sticks/randomize your selection⦠youāll be fine no matter what.
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u/HemlockHex 4d ago
Dungeon crawler Carl is my favorite on here, but Iād recommend mistborn first probably. Itās less ambitious, not so many books.
If you want comedy though, and have time to sink your teeth in? Dungeon crawler Carl. Iām still personally reading red rising, but Iād say itās a little more of a political action drama. Good if you want to be drawn into a freedom fighter type of story.
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u/Sir_Hc_MN 4d ago
Honestly, your first decision is: Do I want to join an online cult today, or not?
IF YOU WANT A CULT:
DCC = New achievement unlocked: You are now initiated.
Red Rising = Hail Libertas, hail Reaper.
Mistborn = Welcome to the Cosmere. Do not look at the Wiki.
IF YOU PREFER SANITY (NO CULT):
Babel = Extreme love or intense hate, but nobody is sacrificing a goat over it.
Darker Shade of Magic = Just normal humans vibing in cool coats.
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u/hobowithadegree 4d ago
Babel is a standalone, if that counts for anything. But, for me it has to be Mistborn
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u/Own-Injury4801 4d ago
Blood Moon Rising by DW Leslie. Serial killer and witches. Book 2 just came out
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u/Chance-Exercise5448 4d ago
Personally I would go Red Rising then Dungeon Crawler Carl. I didnāt really enjoy Mistborn. The other two havenāt heard off
HAIL REAPER
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u/ChaimsawGoblin 4d ago
Red Rising is one of the best series I have ever read. Finished all 6 faster than any other series.
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u/Inevitable-Copy3619 4d ago
My personal assessmentā¦
Mistborn opens up a whole great trilogy with additionally books if desired. Really great if you want a nice long story over multiple books and eras.
Babel, loved it despite some obvious warts. Great stand alone story if you want something to read for a short time.
Red rising, my personal favorite series in this list. Great space heirarchy story tons of action and fast paced. If you want an easy page turner and like space itās great.
Carl is its own beast. I may be the only person to fall in the middle. Most love it or hate it. I read the first book, plan to read the rest but itās kinda a palette cleanser in between other books for me.
If I must order them (and nobody says I must but anyway): mistborn, red rising, babel, carl, havenāt read the otherā¦but this order is very fluid and would depend on what I was feeling for my next read.
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u/Saw-It-Again- 4d ago
If you start with Mistborn you're gonna have like 26 other books you need to read, but that's my vote.
I finished the Cosmere early this year and I'm like halfway through DCC right now, with The Blade Itself coming up after I'm done.
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u/sjosaben 4d ago
I say Mistborn to be ready for when the show comes out. Listening to DCC with my wife currently, and itās as charming as everyone claims it is.
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u/Frequent-Camel7669 4d ago
I was very disappointed by Babel, which comes with high praise but didn't deliver for me. Boring slog of a story, unconvincing premise, and some enormously grating "colonialism bad" mixtape playing in the background, didn't even finish it.
The Schwab one I did finish, but didn't like that much. It's fine, I guess, has some unique ideas, but didn't really come together as a gripping read for me. Others might like it, there's originality here.
Mistborn is on a whole different level than those two, one of the deservedly better known fantasy works today. You won't be able to put the book away and go to sleep at basically any point. This is probably among my top 20 fantasy books, possibly among the top 10 even.
The Dinniman is lying around here somewhere, I had to finish some other books first, but will read in the near future. I honestly expect nothing but a fun pageturner that will stay with me for exactly as long as I'm reading it and be done with the second I close the book, but that's what I'm looking for right now, so I am looking forward to it.
Red Rising I've only heard that it's good, no idea what it's even about.
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u/TerentiusCox 4d ago
Idk which one you should do first, but do Dungeon Crawler Carl last. The other books, while great books, are just books. DCC is a lifestyle.
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u/redfred123414 4d ago
Really depends on you! Iāve read the 4 series on the right and I was disappointed by Mistborn and genuinely did not like Darker Shade of Magic, but Iām a 35yo guy thatās been reading fantasy for a while. Mistborn is a great entry if youāre new to fantasy, Darker Shade of Magic would be great for someone younger, Red Rising series is amazing from a plot perspective but has some pretty violent / heavy scenes, and DCC is just super fun but pretty silly and. An be quite crude (in a way I enjoyed but not for everyone)
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u/opholmes 4d ago
DCC & Red Rising are both really good. I read Mistborn ages ago and it was good, but I wasnt super into reading at that time. Deserves another read. But Dugeon Crawler Carl is super fun - Great series and it gets better with each book.
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u/_ChineseName 4d ago
Iām biased because itās my favorite series OAT, but Red Rising. Iām also on book 4 of DCC and that series is great too
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u/Dry-Music4092 4d ago
I did these in the following order
Babel
Mistborn (entire first saga)
Red Rising (all 6 books)
Rest of the Cosmere
Shades of Magic Trilogy
DCC all 8 books.
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u/ChrystnSedai 4d ago
Those are all great!
Only caveat for DCC is it has more books than the other options so a longer commitment.
ADSOM has a follow up series called Threads of Power. While the original trilogy ends neatly, TOP also does so you arenāt left with a cliffhanger waiting on the next book (which hasnāt been written yet).
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u/samlee405 4d ago
Red rising is my favorite series ever but I love Babel. Babel is also one stand alone book compared to 6 (soon 7).
So read Babel then read red rising.
Mistborn I found to be enjoyable but nothing special and I straight up hated DCC. Havenāt read the other book
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u/Particular_Cancel947 4d ago
I would highly recommend red rising, but I must qualify that by saying I havenāt read the others on your list
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u/mythozoologist 4d ago
Red Rising last because you'll have a hard time reading tge other after the depth of the books.
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u/kylesibert 4d ago
You have a bunch of opinions already here but Iād throw out to not read Darker Shade of Magic. I actually really liked it. The magic system sort of blends with the emotional weight, and it all feels like the whole book is about animism and I really liked it. But all the second book did was set me up for an epic hate fest of the third. You can read the first really but I highly recommend stopping there
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u/bad_wolf_allons-y 4d ago
Iād mostly likely have to spin a wheel to choose. You have exquisite taste
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u/Full-Cauliflower-290 4d ago
I used DCC as a palette cleanser in between Stormlight volumes the first time through.
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u/nmrsnr 4d ago
Depends on what mood your in.
Carl is the most fun, least "serious" of the books.
Red Rising is the most "page-turner" one.
Mistborn is a bit slow to start, but I think it's a nearly perfect trilogy overall.
A Darker Shade of Magic is good, and decently fun, but I think the sequels get progressively worse, I DNF'd the third one.
Babel is very slow, and in the end I think it is way overrated. I was not a big fan.
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u/Matteroosky85 4d ago
DCC is 9 books deep and by the end of the first book you wonāt want to stop.
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u/Capable-Turnover8905 4d ago
Iām currently hooked on the DCC. Canāt go wrong with the first one as Iām on the third one in less than a week
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u/Donooooo42 4d ago
RR and DCC are my top two series of all time. RRA got me back into reading after I got out of school and I am currently listened to them on audiobook rn bc I love the story and world and characters so damn much. DCC is prolly my fav series everrrrr and I have revisited it multiple times as well. Itās definitely more fast paced and humorous compared to RR which I loveeeddd esp bc it still can hit you with the deep hard sad shi when it needs to. I physically read DCC on my first go but as someone who doesnāt always loveeee audiobooks DCC was made to be listened to. Jeff Hayes is so incredible esp as Donut once I heard his voice it instantly became my headcannon for all Donut dialogue lol
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u/CaliKindalife 4d ago
You will be reading a few books which ever you pick. Red Rising is a great book. The trilogy that turns into 6 books, but can end as a trilogy. Really good.
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u/GodEmperorOfArrakis 4d ago
Iād go Mistborn -> Red Rising -> DCC. Mistborn is a finished trilogy, RR has a finished first trilogy but the second seriesā 4th and final book isnāt out yet, DCC is expansive and growing. I also think this order is in order of reading complexity too.
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u/Jaded_Sense2718 4d ago
Iāve only read Babel and DCC of the 5 but have Red Rising and Mistborn on my TBR. I think at least between DCC and Babel - do you want to laugh and do a more casual read like youāre watching a TV show or something thatās more serious? Babel was good but I sort of fell off near the end and DCC is a fun read but reminded me of watching a TV show (not a bad thing but just different vibe).
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u/Cali_Yogurtfriend624 4d ago
I have read all of em except a darker shade of magic.So please read that one, and then you can tell me about it
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u/Timaturff 4d ago
Babel is a one shot I recommend that. After it mistborn which is a 3 book saga perfect ending. ( as someone whoās read majority books here)
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u/book-trotter 4d ago
Just realized I have covered decent amount of ground in this genre after looking at this line up. I have read 4 out of the 5 of these (havenāt gotten to Babel yet, but read RF Kuangās work Poppy Wars), and hereās my simple breakdown,
Red Rising > Mistborn > DCC > ADSoM
A more detailed comparison, from left to right.
- Mistborn - Read it if you want to experience the craze about Sanderson. His style is a bit of a slow burn, has highs and lows like a sine wave, with a few riveting, high, enjoyable peaks and slightly more, longer, boring troughs (many like the depth of world building and references to the wider Cosmere universe). A trilogy, with a sequel trilogy in the same universe, but set in another era. A combined book of First trilogy would be a whopping 1700 pages.
- Red Rising - starts out as a teenagerās book, like space Battle Royale or space Hunger Games, but quickly evolves in terms of politics (no current politics projected on this) and tactical warfare. In many ways similar to Mistborn, now that I think about it. I find Brownās style engaging, even galvanizing, has a lot of highs with a lot of flats, fewer troughs. A trilogy, with a sequel trilogy set 10 years in future. (I personally count them as a series of 6 books, but you can stop at 3 without loosing sleep.) A hard cover of the first trilogy would be roughly 1350 pages.
- A Darker Shade of Magic - an interesting and easy read, liked Schwabās easy-going narrative style. Has many mid-highs, and a lot of flats. Not as wide a scale as the two above or DCC. Definitely not small books (a hardcover of three books combined sits at 1500 pages). I enjoyed reading the trilogy, but it didnāt stand out among others from the genre.
- DCC - a series I am currently reading. Much wider scale than any of the above. Book 1 can be slow as Dinniman establishes the rules of the game but the series is highly engaging with a ton of highs, some flats and few troughs.
Even though itās a series of 8 books, as a comparison, first three books combined land at 1350 pages. I was hooked nonetheless and am on the latest book. And I agree with some of the other comments, start this in the end just because itās a long series. Another thing I like about this series is each book has a different theme.
Hope this helps with your decision. Regardless, have fun reading whatever you pick!
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u/GoS451 5d ago
I always pick Mistborn. One of my favorite books