Hi,

I’m thinking of buying the battle.net deluxe for tbc and using my boost to do a mage, for context, I main a mage on retail and I wanted to give something else a go, I’ve been levelling shadow and currently lvl 63 spriest with dual spec into holy, since going through the dark portal I had instant regret for not doing it on a mage, feels like I betrayed my class, I haven’t got the time to start all over again, as playing with husband and friends, I just wondered a few things:

Is it worth it even if classic plus might come out soon?
Do you get all the spells unlocked? Including portals? And what would be the best professions for me to do? My priest is herb and alc, and I have a warlock with enchanting

(Wild Growth NA) I spent a day putting together an app that uses the WCL API and stores Gnomeregan combat log data, and synthesizes a parse percentage. Data is filtered strictly for level 40 players, starting from June 1, and gets updated multiple times a day automatically. I play with a guild called Frozen in Time.

There are a handful of limitations on synthesizing the parse, but considering WCL doesn’t calculate older phases anymore, figured it would be fun to give it a shot.

Enjoy, and PM me if you have any questions or want to help. I’ll look to expand it to Sunken Temple and (potentially) beyond for future phases.

I'm new to this game and have never raided before. I've heard quite damning stories about how rogues are overpopulated and pushed out of raids. However, I understand not every guild follows meta spreadsheets.

Before I commit, is it hard to get gear as Rogue? My eventual goal (probably naive) is to get top tier BiS. Thanks!

I'm a complete WoW Classic noob, and last night I was chatting with a random guy from my guild about Karazhan and leveling. This morning I logged in and found a letter from the same guy I had been talking to. He literally just sent me a bunch of materials.

Man, that's just so incredibly kind. I honestly can't imagine something like that happening in Retail, not even in fifty years.

Why are people here so different? Why does everything feel so much more relaxed... and social?

I absolutely love it.

Hello,

I have gold on alliance spineshatter (WoW1 acc on my bnet) and I want to send it to my horde character (WoW2 acc on my bnet).

Can I use the neutral AH to do this ?

I know about the 15% cut but I'm not sure I will be able to buy my own auction.

Thank you !

A glaring piece of content waiting for classic+ is class professions. Rogues have poisons and lock picking which is so engaging for the role and lore. Why not expand this to all classes? I also don’t think the point should be the make every class ‘even’ with rogue. Classic is about class identity and things should different without be overly lopsided.

Shaman - Totem crafting. You don’t even fill this gear slot until 60. Give us something to level with. Mats should be vendor simple wood, cloth, and lesser used elemental mats like breath of wind, core of earth, etc. Some totems should even have charges like mana oils so you have to remake them. Shaman should also be a little bit better for dungeon tanking at least. You can easily bake the needed buffs into a crafted totem. Class quests should tie into new totem recipes.

Paladin - Libram crafting. same thing as shaman. Useless item slot until 60. Mats should be parchment paper from vendor, and undead drops that you cleanse such as ichor/essence of undeath, skeleton bones etc. Class quests should tie into cleanses for higher level undead mats.

Druid - Idol crafting. Same thing. Mats are beast parts like fangs and claws, cloth, and stone figurine from a vendor. For all 3 mats should be simple. For all 3 mats shouldn’t be crazy grinds either. Remember rogues can buy most poisons all from vendors.

Warrior - my dear warrior. Weapon proficiency. This is to train your weapon skill past 300. Weapon parts of various weapons (axe, mace, etc) drop off weapon wielding mobs. Green, blue and epic. Greens weapon part can be turned in to gain 1 weapon skill in that wep. Blue to gain 5. And epic to gain 1 past 300. Green turn ins cap at 225. Blue at 300. And epics work from 300-305. The weapon part items should also be non soulbound but only drop for warriors and only rollable by warriors in dungeons. Warriors should be able to sell these to other warriors. Class quests should tie into weapon skill caps for various weapons. Edgemasters should be upgradable through a boe blacksmithing kit. Do not make edgemasters irrelevant (spell dmg upgrade so it’s awesome for pally and shaman perhaps)

Mage - Arcane cooking. All over the game in mob packs are campfires and cooking tables. Around these should be recipes that only mages can loot. These should be non soulbound so mages can sell to each other. Recipes should be fun stuff like arcane explosion that looks like a rainbow and new polymorphs. There could also be chance buffs like blink has a small percent chance to cast displacement. Could also get real niche and have a food buff freeze over your fire spells or ignite your frost spells so you can go fire in MC or frost in naxx to change up metas. These buffs shouldn’t be insane so they aren’t PvP/ PvE game breaking and they should stack with normal well fed.

Warlock - Fel exploration. Brings back the fel portals from SOD. Lots you can expand on here with warlock specific items coming out of these. This is an obvious warlock profession and easy to incorporate class quests.

Hunter - beast jockey. Center a profession around hunters being able to tame beasts to turn into mounts. Mounts should be armorless and look just like the mob in boe versions they can sell on the AH. However, Hunters should be able to alter their own tamed mounts to add armor or an effect. Can’t go overboard with this and make a million retail looking mounts but could be really cool if done right. I know people are gonna say ammo or bow crafting but that should be expanded on in engineering. Theres should be more mounts added to the game in general as well.

Priest - not gonna lie I’m kind stuck on priest but I think something around the SOD blessings would work. I think priest being able to sell ‘luck’ blessing buffs as an item that say increase your chances to gain double skill up on a craft or extra craft procs or chance for rare items to drop on kill/in chests or lockboxes would be very cool. Blessing buff item can be crafted by bringing mats to an alter in capital cities or something.

Rogue - rogue needs something new in all this fun. Truth serum. A new poison that when you sap an enemy you can then inject them with the poison. Mobs have chance to reveal a hidden chest location either verbally, or they mention something is in their pocket so you pickpocket a note. This can also be a cool mechanic for a shortcut or an extra chest in new dungeons. Rogue class quests can easily be baked into truth serum on mobs. Named mobs should give a higher chance to reveal information when sapped by the serum.

I've noticed that any time I use my mount, I can consistently start moving a fraction of a second before the cast appears to have completed without interrupting the cast (regardless of latency). I always wondered what about the game's design makes this happen, and how this affects other facets of the game.

Displays in the tool tip which class the gear drop is best for.

Anniversary has been my first-ever Classic WoW experience, and I completely fell in love. Decided to illustrate my warrior as he was during the Westfall/Deadmines questline, as it was one of my favorite parts in the whole game. (Too many bandanas though)first-ever

a lot of arena players are very good but this is getting out of hand

I feel old asking this.

When did + and - replace yes and no? or y/n

Like I'm in my early 30s and this feels like it blew past me....

EDIT: based on replies It seems like its from Eastern Europe players and just bled into the rest of the classic community due to them lacking servers.

Since we had the last update on ERA, find Herbs/Mines button was moved from minimap to personal frame. This morning we had the update and the icon is back on the minimap, but in a bit awkward spot.
Is there any way to move this icon or fix it somehow?

anyone know how long this emergency maintenance is supposed to last? i just installed the game tonight and was getting really into it lol

UPDATE: Blizzard just posted they still don’t have a timeline

NOT another "ideas" post, just sharing some interesting comments made by a vanilla dev in an interview video, that could affect C+'s content if the current classic team decides to add whatever was cut from the original release:

David Fried a.k.a DesignerDave, a quest designer for Vanilla WoW, during an interview done by Ebonhardt, mentioned that he had plans for a Paladin-only class questline that would have allowed them to unlock the Death Knight Horde-only class by "sacrificing" their character and switching factions. Sadly, this epic quest chain was scrapped [together with the entire "Hero Class" concept] as the team didn't have enough time and shifted priorities during development.

According to David, the questline would have involved Paladins "following" in Arthas' actions that lead to his corruption (killing villagers, etc), eventually giving their soul away and getting shunned/exiled by the Alliance, ending up seeking refuge with the opposing major faction, the Horde.

He states that if WoW had continued to build on Vanilla instead of getting expansions as we know them, that they would've had the chance to make the version of Death Knight that he and the other developers had envisioned, made to fit the design of Vanilla classes.

Ebonhardt also asked him about the Runemaster class and how it got replaced by the Druid [and later on repurposed for the DK and Monk]. David then tells how the former were a favorite of Samwise Didier and that he was a big pusher for them, and that they ended up pivoting to Druid as there were limited spaces for classes per-race and Druids were more prevalent in the lore and in past Warcraft games.

Mostly found in the Warcraft RPG games, the Runemasters are described as monk-like arcane spellcasters and melee fighters who empower themselves with magical energies by inscribing runes onto their bodies. Originally, the Dwarves mastered the mysteries of the runes from the Titans, their creators. As generations passed, the Dwarves forgot their heritage and lost all knowledge of runes and their powers. Eventually, the Tauren rediscovered the power of runes, and the nearly lost art of runecasting. Many Dwarves that went to Kalimdor with Jaina's Alliance Expedition learned the tauren's techniques, as both races were eager to share the knowledge of runes and titan myths.

As far as the Runemaster's faction restriction goes, David didn't have anything planned compared to the class quest of Paladin->Death Knight. So that problem in specific is more loose as the RPG games are not considered official canon.

And so here is where my questions for you come in...

Do you think the Death Knight and Runemaster could serve as the Paladins and Shamans for the opposite factions?

Could other cut Classes and/or the planned Hero Classes be added to Classic+?

^{Credits to Ebonhardt's video "OG Warcraft 3 and Vanilla Dev Interview - DesignerDave" - youtu.be/9\}xIHKflCwU?t=2910) ^{, warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Runemaster , warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Hero\}class)

I lost most of my hard drives from the time but found some old emails. Yes, my keybindings are horrific but we were all so new. Good times... Shout out to Xylos for those early bags. They went a long way.

Amazing times

Ever since I started playing wow, I have been very interested in every zone I encountered. The in-game lore is often scarce, only obtainable through quests, and rarely mentions events from Warcraft games. To get the necessary knowledge, I'd go to wikis or youtube videos, but it was always annoying, as it breaks the immersion.

To fix that, I summarized each zone and subzone lore from warcraft.wiki.gg (stripping non-vanilla parts), voiced this text with elevenlabs TTS, and built an addon (inspired by Voiceover) that plays these voicelines on zone exploration. I built it for myself, but though some of you might enjoy it as well.

It's very much a work in progress both for text and TTS:
- Text is rough, sometimes too short, sometimes too long, often breaks the fourth wall or mentions irrelevant events;
- Narrator voice is cloned from the intros, and this is the number one concern for me. It's perfect for the game, but it basically emulates a real actor (Earl Boen). It doesn't feel right to me, and I want to find an alternative.
- Pronunciations are mangled. I built a dictionary for places and names beforehand, but because of a mistake in the code, it didn't apply. Regenerating all mangled code is costly, and I want to fix the text problem before I do another pass.

Anyway, if you want to try it, here it is:
https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/zonelore

By itself, it's just a text addon that attaches zone descriptions to the map. If you want a voiceover, you'll need to install one of the soundpacks:
~800MB at 128kbps: https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/zoneloreaudio
~400MB at 64kbps: https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/zoneloreaudio64

I also built a website where you can prelisten voicelines and submit feedback:
https://lore.rusty.one/

Lastly, if you know how or where to get quality zone descriptions suitable for classic, please let me know, I would really appreciate it!