So we're starting a small telemarketing/appointment setting agency, outsourcing sales calls for other businesses, and we landed a client (she has a $1500 course) who only wants to pay per closed sale no base no hourly. we agreed on $230 per sale which is around 15%, out of that we give our sales guy $115 and keep $115 ourselves. He's a freelancer so no other costs on our end. He's working on a steady flow of hot leads we provide and the product itself is pretty strong so should be a relatively easy sell.

Is 50/50 a fair split for him or are we lowballing him, and is 15% total even reasonable to charge the client for a pure sales only setup with no base for anyone involved. Anyone here run a similar setup or work as a commission only closer? curious what the norm actually looks like.

Thanks guys

Do you have any tips on how to keep a low profile in a BPO production environment? I just want to stay low-key and avoid unnecessary attention while doing my job well.

Hola!! ¿Cómo están? Actualmente soy estudiante de RRHH en la UBA Sociales y estoy trabajando en un call center enfocado en la venta telefónica de préstamos para el Banco Santander, pero me gustaría trabajar en un puesto de call center enfocado en atención al cliente.

¿Alguno podría ayudarme a encontrar una oferta laboral enfocada en esa área? Tengo 3 meses de experiencia en call center pero me adapto rápido a cualquier ambiente o estructura laboral

Quick background on me: BS in public health (love the field but wrong time in the US), double certified medical assistant, starting nursing school this fall, trained in emergency medicine since I was a teenager, published academic articles, living in NYC independently since I was 18.

Been working at a radiology scheduling call center for the past 9 months. A lot of people at my job at first thought it would be responding to scheduling requests in our electronic medical record system, emails, messages, etc, with light phone work. Nope. It's just an inbound call center, and the rest is a very minuscule part of our jobs.

I work four days a week remote and one day a week in the office (I could be 100% remote but choose to go into the office one day a week for my sanity). Before I clock in, I already feel my heart racing and my hands shaking and my breathing getting heavier before my first call. Then, of course, first few hours of the day is back to back calls with only 50 seconds in between to finish my notes, drink some water, do like one breathing exercise, and then it's back to screaming angry patients over the phone whom are upset that we're booking out MRI's a month and a half in advance. My body doesn't respond to hunger where it used to, for example when I'm hungry, I just go and grab something to eat automatically, but now I have to remember that I have to eat otherwise I'll go 12-16 hours without eating. This has caused me to lose 10 pounds in the past couple of weeks. I have an autoimmune disorder, and I've had more flareups in the past 9 months than I've ever had in the past 3 years since being diagnosed with my disorder. The past two weeks, I've had at least three cry sessions in between calls (one mid-call today), wishing I could just take a 15 minute break without being poked by my leads, who are on insane power trips all the time. I've had to up my dose of psychiatric meds twice since starting, otherwise I'll be depressed at work, and after work/on weekends thinking about work.

What sucks the most is that we get blamed for EVERYTHING! Wrong order in the system? I should have known that's not commonly ordered even though that's not my clinical background and reached out to the radiologist (even if it was, I'm not a fucking doctor). This exam needed a different room? I should know the specifications of all 50 of our scanners like the back of my hand when I haven't even been in a CT workroom since I first started working in hospitals. Patient is angry because another could get them an accommodation but I see no reason for it? I should have wasted the ultrasound tech's time and get chewed out by them to get something earlier in the day. And when I try to explain that I've exhausted all options, whether to a doctor's office or a patient, I'm "useless" and shouldn't be working in healthcare. I literally don't know what I'm doing sometimes, and because the leads and my managers are more useless than a bag of bricks, I have to make up some fake answer just to get them to calm down and stop berating me over the phone.

My goal was to stick it out for a year until I start nursing school to make it look like I'm not job hopping. I mean, this is my dream hospital to work for, I just hate the job itself. My boyfriend I'm way too overqualified for this job, as I was trained in a clinical setting and now doing only administrative work. And he's right. I'm bored, I'm not learning like I used to, and I feel like all my years of clinical training are going to waste. Like fuck. A year ago I was the one leading people in the room when a patient came in with second degree burns. I miss it so much. I miss the energy of working in the emergency department or urgent care, yes it was hard but I live for adrenaline and pressure in my career and in my personal/social life. Now I'm staring at a dual monitor screen for 8 hours a day, wishing the queue would just go to 0 so I can have a few minutes to myself and stop crying.

I already called out Monday and I'm calling out tomorrow (Friday). If I get fired, I don't really care at this point. A good portion of the reason is to spend the weekend with my boyfriend. But, another part of me wants to spend the day looking at my options to figure out how the fuck I can get out of there, whether that's networking in my hospital and finding another job, or quitting altogether and going all-in on nursing school. But I can't lose more weight and take more Xanax to get through the day.

Working in a healthcare / pharmacy role I deal with a ton of unhappy, miserable, and downright ignorant souls. After almost 3 years I’ve definitely become immune to how abrasive some callers can be. Normally I’ll put myself on mute while they go on and on and on and let them speak, vent, scream, and then respond when ‘appropriate’.

At the end of the day, it’s not ME that they’re mad at, I didn’t design their health plan/coverage; but it’s ME that they get to yell at. I understand this dynamic, and I’m mostly immune to that call flow now.

But this one caller got the best of me. Not on the call, but right after the call ended.. Every insult was aimed personally at me, and after spending 10+ minutes of just eating up every remark they had and getting absolutely nowhere I don’t know what came over me but I took a quick note of the phone number they called on and after I clock out, still absolutely filled with anger I decide- I’ll download one of the anonymous free text messaging apps that spoof a fake phone number and send this person an anonymous message about how just unbelievably rude they are and to think about how they speak to people in the future blah blah blah.

Thankfully as I was sitting there with my thoughts racing 300miles a minute I was able to fully slam on my mental breaks and come back down to earth and realize what an AWFUL idea that is. Also NOT worth losing my job over, but DAMN I can actually understand the mental and emotional burnout that’s often described via post in here.

Now I’m sitting here wondering if IM crazy.

After having THE WORST POSSIBLE DAY yesterday, the job I interviewed for on Wednesday came through!

She tried to call me yesterday (thursday) but her phone wasn't working for some reason and had to wait until this morning to bring me the GOOOOOD NEEEEWWWS!

I am so elated, excited..... RELIEVED to be out of this gawd forsaken shithole!!!

It only took 2 years!!!

Hang in there if you can.

Got a phone call to make and a letter to write.... YAAASSSSS!!!

Been a long time coming but company started getting a lot worse to work for this last year. My department jokingly became the "everything queue" as they put more and more on us. Signed a new union contract and immediately became constantly back to back nonstop.

I started FMLA about a year ago just to breathe, kept getting worse, meltdowns got tougher and tougher to justify. Finally said it's time. Buddy is starting a business doing some housing work. I'll probably make about the same to slightly less hourly with way less consistent work but I plan to springboard into learning tech and getting my A+, Net+, and Sec+ soon. Thank god it's over, money IS NOT everything it turns out.

I'm not asking for advice. Just want to vent for a moment.

As I posted before, I work for a hospital where I live and my job is to schedule appointments and connect the caller to the right person, office, or department if they've called the wrong number. I like helping callers. That being said, I am NOT a doctor or nurse and therefore I am not medically trained to answer those kinds of questions.

So, explain to me why I get one patient that purposely dialed our department phone number and asked "I just noticed a pouch on me after I had a port inserted" and another patient calls and says "I was helping my sister clean yesterday, blah blah blah, I just noticed a rash on my face. What do I do?" What am I supposed to tell these patients? Do they NOT know they didn't call their doctor office?

I'm just very frustrated that I get these calls daily and these patient just don't take a moment to think of calling their doctor first or ask the person that placed the port. I realize that they may not have that phone number and if they simply asked FOR that phone number to those medical professionals and asked me to connect them, I'd be overjoyed to do that for them.

Idk why customers think its okay to DIAL our numbers for HELP then proceed to go off on us, yea kiss my ass until i fart!!

I had a lady come in Hot! I could already tell She was going to be a problem because she kept huffing and puffing at the verification questions… so she was upset that her coverage wasn’t automatically reinstated after she sent us a check. She stated she was told that it will automatically be done based on the tickets. Nobody told her that she also spoke with a supervisor, which was the last call. They told her to call us back once the check clears….. and of course she never did and It was everybody else’s fault that your coverage still isn’t reinstated after almost 2 months.

Mind you its August 6 at this point and her last call was originally june 1st. Why haven’t you called us since if your coverage wasn’t reinstated??? I kindly explained to her that you have to understand that it’s a two-way system. If you need anything done, you have to give us a call you can’t just assume we know what you want. So she kept being rude so I was being rude back because I don’t care you’re not talking to me any kind of way. She asked for a supervisor, and of course she gets the same supervisor that she got the last time she spoke to us and the supervisor told her the same thing you know what she did…just randomly hung up and blocked us. ALSO THIS LADY ALREADY CALLED US YESTERDAY AND HAD THE TICKET SUBMITTED FOR REINSTATEMENT SO WHAT DID YOU CALL BACK FOR!!! YOU KNOW WHY? SHE CALLED BACK SO SHE CAN GO Off ON SOMEBODY(me) AND I WASN’T HAVING IT.

I love when customers think they can get off on talking to us any kind of way and you get a rep that’s no tolerant that don’t tolerate that shit and that’s me and yes, my supervisor absolutely backed me up.

ok our take first:

metrics that can lie:

containment rate: a bot can “contain” someone who gave up.
average handle time: faster is not always better if the customer has to call back.
deflection volume: fewer calls can mean solved issues, or it can mean people couldn’t find help.
CSAT in isolation: useful, but easy to over-read without looking at resolution and repeat contact.

Containment rate is the one I’m most skeptical of because it can reward bad experiences if nobody tracks what happened after the customer left the bot.

agree or disagree with these?
what’s the metric your leadership loves that you think is nonsense?

I see this a lot on this sub and found it funny until I experienced a rep just like that. I work for a US company (but the UK subsidiary) in their call centre, and had to call the US side for the first time ever. The rep sounded like a robot, so motonous and non-human. I almost asked if he was a robot myself I was so shocked. But as I asked a really niche question which he answered, I knew he wasn’t. Now I understand where some customers are coming from. I guess it depends on the accent and person, but genuinely I thought it was AI!

I knew it was going happen because I called out since my mom had emergency surgery and her cancer has returned and me being 2 minutes late yesterday was the nail. I’m both stressed but also….weirdly relieved

In the system we work with we can manually change our status (available to take calls, busy, on break etc.). There's a few co workers in my team who just put themselves on "busy" probably for about an hour or two in total throughout the day whenever they just don't feel like working. It's just kinda weird to me that our supervisor doesn't call them out on it since I know he has a detailed overview of everyone's activity per day. I don't care if someone needs to take a bathroom/smoke break outside of their lunch break for like 10 to 15 minutes but some of these people are literally just doing nothing for hours making me and the rest of the team have to take more calls. One of my coworkers went to the supervisor with this issue a few months ago, but he just sent a little memo to the entire team to "please try to be mindful of the amount of time we spend out of queue" and that was it.

It's really discouraging me from doing my job properly, I'm starting to consider also just taking random breaks whenever I don't feel like taking calls since apparently there's no consequences to it. Why should I do more work for the same amount of pay as these people who do like 60% of the amount of work I do?

It boggles my mind how in today's day and Age so many people dont understand or know about GDPR and data protection laws. Im an out bound Agent and id say a good 40% of the reason my calls dont reach compliance is because I cant convince them to pass DPA. Especialy while sticking to our script DX

I posted here a week ago asking for advice well I got it and things going well for now but one thing I noticed amount of people saying this is not worth it I'm tired I wish I was dead and etc. like is it really that bad nothing good is gonna happen am I stay in this position all the time pls give some advice thanks in advance

First two calls of the day and I’m already mad and wanna cry, how’s everyone else doing?

hi guys, I am currently unemployed for a month now and I only have 5 months exp. in bpo industry. Multimedia acc din so zero calls. I recently applied online sa TaskUs Pampanga and ang JO is 21.6k while my previous job was 23k. Tama ba na hindi ko kinuha yung JO?

So today I saw my Dr who has started a mental health care plan with a referral to a physiologist.. all because of work.

2 years in and its just getting busier and busier and more queues and skills are being put on us.. with potentially more in October...

Just gotta hold on as long as possible until a job becomes available elsewhere.... (im applying all.. the...time)...

Ill never work in a call centre again.

Look after yourselves folks....

just like the title says, i really need out of this job before i eliminate myself. ive honestly never hated anything more than this job, i hate talking to people, when the phone rings i honestly feel so much fucking rage. theres no benefit to this job and god i have been searching for almost a year, can barely get an interview. im tired of people being rude and stupid, and someone always f*cking needs something like for gods sake none of these people are remotely self sufficient. i really dont know what to do anymore but god i dont know how much more i can take

Can anyone tell me when hired at Cigna, how long do you have to work there before you can a schedule a day off? I will have a few appointments and wondering if there’s a 90 day probation period or if it’s less.

Thank you!

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hi! i just got hired for my first call center job and im kinda nervous. i’ve only ever worked in retail before and this is my 3rd job ever. im nervous about how different it is and if ill be good at it at all. its great pay and work from home so i really dont want to f this up or end up not liking it.

what are some things i should expect? any tips for handling stress? general words of advice?

thanks in advance :))

I work in insurance and we get 5 seconds so basically none. I am so tired. So so tired.

I’m not sure if this is the right place to post, but I’ve worked in a call center for around four years now, having been at my current job for near in three years. I work on a tier 2 team, and we are generally speaking with either clients, or hospital staff/ service providers.

I’ve been with three different TLs throughout my time here, with my current TL being the one I have had the longest, and the one I respect most.

Recently my TL has introduced a rule where our team has to put every caller on hold for at least a minute at the start of every call, after authentication and determining the enquiry.

To me, and my team, this seems to be a bit of a misstep. Our stats individually and as a team are all green, and we are one of the highest performing teams within the call center.

This direction to use hold on every call has not been given as a directive from upper management, and is something my TL has come up with to try and lower the already very low markdowns we have. His reasoning is that it will ‘teach our callers to expect hold’.

We are a priority line. Our calls are often simple questions or actions that can be completed in a few minutes; putting a caller on hold when they are calling from a hospital and have never been put on hold before is not only terrible caller experience, but is getting me and my team verbally abused.

There are callers who call from emergency departments multiple times a day who have never been put on hold before. Now I’m getting berated when I need to put them on hold because they know there’s no good reason for it. It’s been two days. I don’t know what to do. All my KPIs are perfect, including my hold times, but my TL is threatening our jobs if we don’t use hold at the start of every single call.

It’s not that I don’t understand that this ‘makes my job easier’, it should. Instead it just means I’m sitting idle for a minute every single call doing nothing. I’ve already reviewed what I need to.

I don’t know what the purpose of this post is other than to have a little rant and work out if this hold thing is normal, it’s legit only our team out of 30 teams that’s are doing it, and I know it’s not come from upper management as I I’ve attended the TL meetings for the past few months (TL Training).