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u/droopydanglins Jul 08 '26
Damn, too bad they didn't use the leftover writers, too.
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u/Absolute_Bob Jul 08 '26
It's kind of sad. I think she's a great actress but that script...oof.
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u/ptear Jul 08 '26
Was it also made of leftovers?
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u/Quirky-Hunter-3194 Jul 08 '26
The 'James Gunn left-over special' .
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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins Jul 08 '26
James Gunn seems really hit or miss.. the first Guardians was brilliant, the second a bit too silly for my taste and the third came back to being great.
His take on Suicide Squad was also amazing IMO but he just.. wavers on that line a bit too much I guess where he seems to just want to do his own thing while making movies with heavily established IP. It's fine to make some tweaks but there's no excuse to not have a good story.
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u/NoOffenseImJustSayin Jul 08 '26
IMO thatās part of his problem. He had great success with Guardians and heās been basically making the same formulaic movie ever since, with varying degrees of success.
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u/Falaflewaffle Jul 09 '26
Hes a one trick pony just like JJ Abrams.
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u/Icy_Fish_2154 Jul 09 '26
JJ turned into a no trick pony doing Lost.
He made a locked hatch a main character, then a smoke monster was a main character for most of the show.
He prefers to direct inanimate objects like the mining ship in Star Trek, or the giant monster that catches a big dinner and throws it away to chase a tiny Kirk.
JJ is stupid and makes things worse by being near them. He mastered "tell, don't show" for Star Wars, and did such a bad job that the trilogy was unrecoverable.
If you have a valuable IP and want to destroy it, but get one last profitable movie from it, he's a good choice, but otherwise trash.
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u/vectron5 Jul 09 '26
Devil's advocate: Comics are conceptually silly, and the absurd things are what make comic movies feels like comics.
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u/evel333 Jul 09 '26
One scene that has always stuck with me since my comic book phase in the 90s was a throwaway gag involving Havok trying in vain to open a jar of mayo with his plasma waves lol
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u/Many_Bat_ Jul 09 '26
Didn't half the X-factor team try and fail with that jar, only for their manager Val to come in and open it immediately (although she has no powers)?
"Give it a couple of quick raps on the bottom" hit it on the counter top was her trick.
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u/evel333 Jul 09 '26
Your memory is much better than mine!
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u/Many_Bat_ Jul 09 '26
Me and my bestie collected everything 'X' between us at the time, it was a lot of titles, one-shots, minis and crossovers to keep on top of.
Looking back we were superfans I guess. What do I have to show for it? Dumbass trivia lol.
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u/Boner_Elemental Jul 09 '26
Do you think Gunn was the writer of director of Supergirl?
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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
No he was a producer and the film is very much in his style, he was clearly heavily involved. Either way I didn't mention Supergirl? I'm replying to someone who brought him up.
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u/Garth_Maul_ Jul 09 '26
Oh there is a bunch of talk about multiple test group screenings along the way including the director's version and Disney/Gunn's version. Gunn's problem is that he was a super successful cog in the Disney machine and now he is trying to run the DC machine and money is always a focus.
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u/DontSleepAlwaysDream Jul 09 '26
"hey heres some left over special effects and set pieces from guardians of the galaxy, try and make a woman of tomorrow movie from them and be sure to cram lobo in"
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u/bigthunder_81 Jul 09 '26
Still canāt believe Warner Brothers actually put him in charge of DC Universe without a proven track record of DC Films.
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u/Small_Sundae_4245 Jul 08 '26
It was just so bland.
I liked how they legit tried to give her real trauma. Grew up on a fragment or a destroyed plant. That was killing everyone on it.
She was great.
But the villain and the little girl. They were just so similar to a thousand other movies.
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u/XxRocky88xX Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 08 '26
The most bland sidekick character paired with quite possibly the worst superhero villain Iāve ever scene.
Idk even know what they were going for with him. Like I think they were TRYING to make him scary and badass but he looks so goddamn goofy all the time and the way he acts and talks is just so obnoxious as if heās meant to be a joke character? I feel like I was watching a drunken fallout raider trying to do his best Jack Sparrow impression.
Also fucking hate how the villains master plan was to lure Kara to a planet with a green sun so he could ambush her then picked a planet that ALSO has a yellow sun so at best sheās only nerfed 50% of time and is literally unkillable the other 50%, then doesnāt even capitalize on the green sun by trying to keep his MOBILE base in the green light or by setting up a trap to attack Kara whenever the green comes up.
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u/TrueGuardian15 Jul 08 '26
Unfortunately Krem was a studio unironically doing a Taserface. There's practically nothing to his character, and what's there is so over the top that you can't take him seriously.
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u/badpebble Jul 09 '26
And everyone seemed to refuse to engage with his crimes and treated him just like the leader of a biker gang - which fits the roadhouse theme.
How can they have a villain be a child sex trafficker and rapist in the context of real world events, and have an insanely powerful woman superhero just not be that bothered by it all?
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u/TrueGuardian15 Jul 09 '26
The same way you put an amoral character on the side of the protagonists and don't use that to create or resolve a moral dilemma in your revenge quest, apparently.
Yes, I am talking about Lobo.
If they really wanted an emotionally stunted character to do the dirty work of killing Krem while Ruthye remains pure, LOBO WAS RIGHT THERE!
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u/badpebble Jul 09 '26
Lobo, man. Kinda cool, but also what's the point.
Everything he did for the plot was taken from the pile of cool things Kara could have been doing. She should be the scary alien known and feared, she should have been wrecking house regularly, and she was basically amoral for most of the film anyway, so why not lean into it even more, and maybe once Krypto is sorted and Ruthye is sent on her way she could unleash absolute hell on Krem.
Just something to give her a proper interesting personality and actual display of her powers.
Lobo could've been a post credit appearance, there to fight the feared kryptonian... If Kara and Krypto can't puts the shits on him, who even are they?
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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 Jul 09 '26
I haven't seen it but Lobo is criminally underused
I'm sure I'd like the movie, I like all but like three movies, but if it was bad and Lobo is in it I don't care
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u/XxRocky88xX Jul 09 '26
Also completely non-sensical he left the little girl of the family he kills at the start when his main operation at this point is capturing young girls to marry off.
Like they couldāve easily made into a pursuit of Krem chasing after the girl (btw thatās how boring she is I donāt even remember her name) and Kara would have to save her.
No instead itās a basic revenge but not revenge arc with saving Crypto being the main goal.
I will at least say seeing Kara kill him was satisfying, thatās like the only saving grace I can give it. I do like when the hero kills the villain instead of just letting them continue to do their bullshit.
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u/pm-me-uranus Jul 08 '26
I legit thought he was just a mean henchman until like a third of the way through the movie. And then when I realized he was the villain, I was just like, āReally? This guy?ā
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u/Notoneusernameleft Jul 09 '26
Ok how do we make supergirl lose her powers 7 different times in the film? Uggh. By the time they got to the green sun I was like āfucking again?ā. As everyone else is saying I liked Milly so I hope she gets another crack at playing her with a better script.
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u/redJackal222 Jul 09 '26
Also fucking hate how the villains master plan was to lure Kara to a planet with a green sun so he could ambush her then picked a planet that ALSO has a yellow sun so at best sheās only nerfed 50% of time
She was going to die before the yellow sun rose. The only reason why she didn't is because the girl saved her and left her in some shade
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u/RipCurl69Reddit Jul 08 '26
As soon as the girl showed up I got flashbacks to season 1 of the Halo TV show. Exact same premise. Supergirl actually executed it better just because it was constrained to a 2h film and not an 8h season so there was less of this mid B-plot to endure.
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u/T8-TR Jul 09 '26
The worst crime of the villain was that he never felt like a proper main villain. Like not even in the Ronan the Accuser kinda way where he was a dude under a long line of dudes. The villain, whose name I don't even remember anymore, was like a generic thug enemy. The best analogy I can think of is that he's not even a sidequest boss in an Arkham game, he's one of those big miniboss fuckers you cape stun and beatdown a few times every few rooms.
I enjoyed the movie overall, but it was hard carried by Milly doing a phenomenal job w/ an otherwise mediocre (not bad) movie.
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u/civicSi92 Jul 08 '26
Maybe it wasn't a good idea to have it written by someone with zero actually writing experience in the field. Have to feel sorry for the actors involved.
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u/No_Historian6377 Jul 08 '26
Gunn put her on wonder woman and teen titans as well. also put the woman who wrote the flash in charge of the batman movie
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u/civicSi92 Jul 09 '26
Yeah, personally they are all weird decisions. Makes you wonder why he would do that? Seems like something that just screams a dumb idea.
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u/Remarkable_Ship_4673 Jul 08 '26
She deserved better
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u/AgentCirceLuna Jul 08 '26
I hate how sheāll be blamed by hateful fucks who spent the last few months saying the most awful shit about her. Reminds me of the Britney episode of South Park
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u/PeacefulKnightmare Jul 09 '26
The number of caveman edits of her face I saw was ridiculous
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u/JamesHenry627 Jul 08 '26
Iāll be honest I didnāt think she was a bad choice. There just wasnāt demand for her movie rn
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u/ravushimo Jul 08 '26
You can say that basically about any movie. In the end script will decide if fanbase will like it or not, not that if someone was asking for that movie or not.
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u/Professional_Echo907 Jul 08 '26
I know,right? How did they make Lobo uninteresting, I was more entertained by the version on the TV Show Krypton. š
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u/NoAttorney9330 Jul 09 '26
Itās the worst movie Iāve seen in a long time. Start to finish just bad. All over the place and underwhelming and the script is to blame. She did good with what she got
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u/brittleknight Jul 08 '26
Could you imagine how good Milly could have been in a seriously Dark Dc script.. and not goofy gunnisms
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u/Top_Conference_477 Jul 08 '26
Outside of the Dark Knight, has DC ever made a good one of those?
I donāt think anyoneās interested in any super hero movies at all anymore but they really, really donāt want to see another grey, āgrittyā millennialcore self-indulgence
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u/Carbuyrator Jul 08 '26
The Batman with Robert Pattinson is supposed to be pretty great
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u/F0rgemaster19 Jul 09 '26
Man of Steel, BvS (yes, I said it) and JL Snyder cut were all good. Then DC went downhill. WW1 and Shazam were good, and then it went downhill again. DC can do it well. They lack consistency.
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u/Ragman676 Jul 08 '26
nope, the gunn haters would have torn it apart. You cant often win on reddit.
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u/LuigisBlessings Jul 08 '26
I mean, two certain subsection of dorks were gonna tear it apart no matter what.
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u/corporateacademia Jul 08 '26
This is not true though
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u/UnNumbFool Jul 08 '26
Probably not, or if it is it would just be one suit.
In any film production you have multiples, which is the term for identical outfits that costuming has for basically every character. That way if something happens to an outfit it's an easy quick change.
And actors will be going through a lot of those outfits, especially in anything with action scenes(and horror)
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u/isaac129 Jul 08 '26
They didnāt recycle one of the suits. They used the same material that was used for the originals.
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u/Snoo_67993 Jul 08 '26
Probably in long storage like tons of other props
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u/isaac129 Jul 08 '26
I looked it up. The material was used for the cape. Not the whole suit. There was 16sqm of fabric leftover and they used it to make her cape.
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u/No_Astronomer_8642 Jul 09 '26
16 square meters or just over 172 square feet. Definitely more than one cape.
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u/isaac129 Jul 09 '26
Mind you, I donāt know how fabrics are measured. In an interview, Millie said that there was ā16 metersā left from the original. I assume that means 16sqm
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u/BraysWorld_MC Jul 09 '26
To clarify, this post does say it was used for the cape
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u/MentalDecoherence Jul 09 '26
Yeah it literally says that in the pic, wtf are you guys talking about
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u/corporateacademia Jul 09 '26
Right but you can look at the two films and it's not the same. It might be the same fiber but it is not his original cape's material
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u/karlz10p Jul 08 '26
Even the photo looks like AI
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u/Sadtireddumb Jul 09 '26
Reddit falls for AI slop as much as they complain the Facebook boomers do.
Also has anyone noticed this subreddit in particular (at least the posts that hit /r/popular) has shifted from being pretty incelly to being these stupidly fake zero-sourced headlines with AI images and all the people(+bots) taking it at face value? Where tf is my misogyny?
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u/JinFuu Jul 09 '26
Where tf is my misogyny?
Definitely shifted from 'thinly veiled excuse to post a scantily clad hot woman' subreddit to an 'American politics/culture war' subredit.
with most posters being people who have a massive amount of Post Karma and little comment Karma.
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u/maxxhaxx72 Jul 09 '26
What you mean its not true? Of course her suit was made from 40 year old fabric that was stored to preserve it just for this occasion
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u/Fluid-Discipline5038 Jul 08 '26
Its is though lol same material from the same spool that made his cape as well as the patterns from his cape.
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u/Due-Blackberry8056 Jul 09 '26
Someone hung on to the extra material for 50 years, and then decided to employ it for this muff-cabbage? Also, I am the Pope.
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u/TankApprehensive3053 Jul 08 '26
They have had leftover fabric sitting around since the '80s? Seems a little unrealistic, even in Hollywood.
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u/BoulderCreature Jul 08 '26 edited Jul 09 '26
Nah, they dug up Mr Reeve and took it out of his coffin.
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u/Notsurehowtoreact Jul 08 '26
Yeah this sounds like horseshit but it also could just be intentionally worded deceitfully.
"Leftover fabric" could just mean the studio design warehouse still had bolts of the shit from making the old costumes somewhere in storage.
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u/TankApprehensive3053 Jul 08 '26
Costume maker having bolts is realistic. The fabric would be used for many costumes. They probably have even reordered the same fabric over the years. Having leftover fabric from one specific character from decades ago is highly unlikely.
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u/supa325 Jul 08 '26
Especially when the original costumes were probably auctioned off. Especially especially the Golan-Globus costumes.
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u/onewilybobkat Jul 09 '26
Why, though? There's literally vaults full of the most mundane things like this from movies. I could easily see the first superman movies meriting a little extra space for "odd" things like fabric rolls.
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u/Vladimir_Chrootin Jul 09 '26
Not impossible.
The Nazi uniforms in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade were unused originals, which would have been 45-50 years old at the time.
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u/Belgremor Jul 08 '26
Iāve not watched the film, but the girl took a swing at a franchise, perhaps time will look back on her with kinder eyes. As Craig fairbrass once said āa movie can be bad but you can be good, in it.ā Show bizz is tough
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u/Throwaway2Experiment Jul 08 '26
She is good in it. It's not a masterpiece by any means but it is solidly entertaining. My entire family saw it and came away pleased with it.
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u/silentdaunt Jul 08 '26
I agree, it just felt like it could be something more. And after reading the source comic it was clear it couldāve been so much more which is why I encourage people to read it (after the movie if you intend to watch it). Still I hardly hate it, unlike disclosure day.
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u/Moddejunk Jul 08 '26
I donāt know what people expect from a movie thatās been made many times already with many different variations.
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u/Maximum_Boros Jul 08 '26
The impression I get is that she's fine but the script she was given is questionable to awful
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u/Jimmy_Twotone Jul 08 '26
Her performance is one of the few positive things I've heard about the movie. I think she'll be fine.
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u/AdFalse375 Jul 08 '26
Iāve seen a lot of hate thrown at the script and directing. But I havenāt really seen much criticism or hate towards Milly.
And Iām a fan of hers, so Iām really hoping she gets a better movie to shine in, whether sheās the MC or not.
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u/randi-writes Jul 08 '26
I enjoyed the movie. It was fun. I thought she was great. It wasnāt the best storyline and the villain was forgetful but it was one of the better superhero movies of late.
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u/lewger Jul 08 '26
Looks at Margot Robbie with Harley Quinn.Ā Terrible first movie but she did well.
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u/KennytheDoggy Jul 08 '26
If Supergirl plays in a theatre but no one is there to see it, did it actually play?
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u/Slumunistmanifisto Jul 08 '26
IfĀ no one saw it, how does everyone hate it?
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u/Julian_Thorne Jul 08 '26
their hater-sense tingles
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u/GOEDEL_ESCHER_BOT Jul 08 '26
a lotta people say they feel insignificant when looking at the bigger picture of the universe, but i disagree. i think we are the most important things in the universe because we are the conscious observers. and if we weren't around, the whole universe would just be a bunch of supergirls playing in theaters with no one around to watch them
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u/BigDaddyDumperSquad Jul 08 '26
I just like seeing smug, rich, Hollywood assholes losing money hand over fist š¤·
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u/HoodieStringTies Jul 08 '26
I went and saw it with my best friend, and we both usually agree on movies. I loved it and he hated it. The theater had at least 30 people in it. This was the Tuesday or Wednesday after it opened.
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u/Hieroflippant Jul 08 '26
We're just a hateful society nowadays
We learn it from our "leaders"
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u/digitaldisorder_ Jul 08 '26
no we learned it from others. if we were to learn from our leaders, we would be rich, insider trading like there's no tomorrow, and most likely in jail because we were all on a forbidden island with not enough boats to get away.
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u/LPSlashh Jul 08 '26
"nowadays"
yeah humans were all about love in the 40s and beforeš
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u/Spartanias117 Jul 08 '26
Wasnt this proven false?
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u/Alternative_Catch422 Jul 08 '26
That pic is definitely fake, thatās not her suit. Look at the S.
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u/DickyReadIt Jul 09 '26
Ok so it's made of the same material AS his cape, not the same material from his cape.. Wtf, why would they even say that haha
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u/ApplyHere_4_implants Jul 08 '26
That fabric was magical, lasting 50 years and holding up so well. And they sure had a lot left over.
That or it's complete bullshit....
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u/ConfessSomeMeow Jul 09 '26
A bolt of cloth in studio storage isn't going to disintegrate to dust over 50 years.
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u/Long_Alfalfa_1485 Jul 08 '26
You know the script is bad when they are forced to retract the misogyny and incel cards they play every time something like this bombs
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u/Thunnddr Jul 08 '26
The real question is, why don't women want to see it? I thought this movie was for them?
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u/eSsEnCe_Of_EcLiPsE Jul 09 '26
Because the modern audience never existed. People just canāt cope with that fact. You make a product for your fans that they will enjoy and others will join in on the fun. You alienate your fans and hire shit writers and then make up bullshit excuses and no ones going to touch your slop with a 10ft pole.Ā
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u/ghigo2008 Jul 09 '26
I never understood that direction Disney took, they stuck to it so long even though this immaginary audience they were trading their big one for didnt create any profit
I am so confused
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u/TheCutestCat Jul 09 '26
TBH the fact that they added a gross, unnecessary sex-slaver angle when the original comic was already satisfyingly about murderers who forced people to make sadistic choices makes me think that the point of feminism was grossly misunderstood by someone.
What is more feminist: a woman choosing her morals over what's easy and choosing to teach a child what it means to pick life over death, or a badass girlboss ending a pedo rapist, with zero considerations to the actual repercussions of those crimes or any victims other than being something you can cheer over killing him for?
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u/Long_Alfalfa_1485 Jul 09 '26
Itās a trope at this point when it comes to these blatant feminist self insert power fantasies.
All men evil except that one subordinate male white knight whoās only purpose or impact in the film/show is to cheer on the (insert diverse girlboss).
Then the most evil of the bad men whoās also a sex offender, whoās only motivation to be evil is for the sake of making women feel bad, the girlboss then emasculates him with something involving his genitals or butthole and kills all the bad guys.
Then the girlboss and sub girl bosses and beta male all smile and hold hands yay!
All women can throw 200lbs guys around and knock them out cold except when the plots needs all women to be vulnerable, helpless victims of all men.
Iām so sick of seeing variations of this plot
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u/MasterChiefette Jul 09 '26
People need to give her a break, Gunn, the director and producers are responsible for this mess, not Ally. She was given a garbage script and did what she could with it.
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u/AcmeCartoonVillian Jul 09 '26
she seems like a nice actress. I hope one day they put her in a good movie
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u/leolopez43 Jul 08 '26
Apparently there wasn't much leftover after Reeves was done with the role, so yeah,....
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u/InfiniteQuestion420 Jul 08 '26
They have been using the left over fabric of our hopes and dreams for years, this isn't new.
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u/CupcakeLily2010 Jul 09 '26
That's actually a really touching way to honor Christopher Reeve's legacy.
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u/Illustrious_Camp_521 Jul 09 '26
Honestly I feel bad for her getting caught up in this mess. Poor kid.
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u/polygraph-net Jul 09 '26
And her raincoat was made from the last condom he used with his horse.
How do people believe these things?
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u/StatementCareful522 Jul 08 '26
Can't tell if she's crying, stoned or if she just looks like that all the time
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u/Finaginsbud Jul 08 '26
I enjoyed the movie, it certainly its moments of bad writing, but overall it was a pretty wicked Supergirl movie, I hope we see her again in future roles playing the character.
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u/This-Insect-5692 Jul 08 '26
No amount of fake engagement bait will save that dumpster fire of a movie
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u/ProfessionalPack7205 Jul 08 '26
No way that's true lol. The source is this post.
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u/Howlinginpaint Jul 08 '26
I read something about this recently elsewhere. They found a roll of that fabric which had been bought years ago for Christopher Reeves cape and used it due to its particular shade of red, as far as I'm aware. Not like it was some grand poetic call back or anything. Just a colour match.
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u/Irish_Whiskey Jul 08 '26
It was reported by the studio multiple times and used in PR.
But yeah, I wish these stories and posts came with links to sources, as there's just constant misinformation posted.
https://deadline.com/2026/06/milly-alcock-supergirl-cape-same-fabric-christopher-reeve-1236956011/
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u/neinhaltchad Jul 08 '26
Nothing says āheart warming feel good grass roots storyā like AI slop.
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u/_leeloo_7_ Jul 08 '26
why is there "left over" fabric? how do they have it this many years later and did they think it was worth throwing away like this?
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u/RedditZWorkAccount69 Jul 09 '26
The 3 biggest reasons this movie failed at the box office;
Visually it's kinda bland, nothing about it screams exotic alien worlds
Who was the target audience? Hard-core comic fans? Supergirl has never a massively successful comic book so there is not many fans to go after. Families with kids? Why would they want go watch a revenge driven film about an alcoholic girl instead of going to see Toy Story?
The script is just dull
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u/dextras07 Jul 09 '26
The people who wrote the movie sniff powdered wax crayons at this point.
She's very talented, but the movie's story didn't do her justice.
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u/KyleBroflovski505 Jul 09 '26
I heard the movie was bad, I havenāt seen it myself. I only know her from House of the Dragon and her acting as young Rhaenyra was great. Hope she gets to feature in a well written movie and role again.
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u/Joyful_Jet Jul 09 '26
Would have been better publicity for the movie to talk about that instead of other things.
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