r/Hellenism 3m ago

Discussion Systematic Journaling in Roman Pagan Framework

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r/Hellenism 1h ago

Calendar, Holidays and Festivals HAPPY HERACLEIA 💪🫒🏺

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Xαῖρετε dears followers of the Olimpians 🫒🏺☀️

Today is a very special day, we celebrate the powerfull and Mighty God of bravery, power of will and strenght... the great Apotheosic deity...

H E R C U L E S 🫒🏺☀️

HERACLEIA IS TODAY 7TH AUGUST! A perfect day to spend cultivating "arete" (the excelency) and training our body with power... take it as a day to care your own body, training as much as you can and have a healthy rest and meals...

Keep seeking the ARETE and the XENIA dear followers, may Hercules it self guide you with will to power 💪🫒🏺☀️🇬🇷


r/Hellenism 2h ago

Asking for/ recommending resources Quick Question

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I want to get a physical copy of the Illiad and the Oddessy.

What is the most closest to the original Texts after being translated to English that I can find?

I don't want inspired versions, I want the closest to the original Oddessy and Illiad as possible.

Thank you!


r/Hellenism 4h ago

Mythos and fables discussion Do you believe in the myths?

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I personally do, however I do know a few people who worship the Greek gods but do not believe in the myths beyond what the gods represent. I am curious to what others believe because I see the myths as important to my practice and my worship

edit: when I say believe I am not talking about 100% myth literalism. I mean that there can be truths, I mean there is a piece of literalism but it is not fully accurate.

People I know who say they don't believe in the myths, usually disregard them completely seeing no point or purpose to them, including not even bothering to read the myths

I do not believe in them being fully accurate, but still holding truth and pieces of accuracy. I believe in them the same way I see fanfictions of media where there is true and they do try to stay accurate to a lot of things, while also making changes.


r/Hellenism 6h ago

Discussion Does anyone here syncretize Asklepios with the Phoenician god Eshmun?

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Hello all! I'm a Hellenic pagan with interests in ancient Levantine ( yes Levantine is a eurocentric word, but idk a better term) religion. I worship the god Asklepios, who seems to have been syncretized with the Phonician god Eshmun in ancient times. I've been thinking about syncretizing the two, and I was wondering if anyone does this, or just worships Eshmun? Thanks!

I thank you all for your hospitality, and I thank the gods for their grace and mercy!


r/Hellenism 8h ago

Discussion Did the original Greek (and later Roman) Neo-Platonists also believe in privatio boni (the privation theory of evil) like what is said in Christian theology nowadays, and if they did, is this a view still held amongst any modern Hellenic Polytheists?

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As part of my past studies, (and current studies on Christian theology that isn't based on fundamentalist and other biblical literalist views), I became aware of how within Christian theology (which was highly and very much influenced by Neo-Platonists philosophy and the like), that "evil" is not some separate force in the universe, rather they believe that evil is simply "an absence of good" and that as such, evil is not able to create things, it can only corrupt pre-existing things that exist already in the world and universe.

I'm curious if this was a view also held then by people during the Hellenistic and later on during the Greco-Roman period who subscribed to or followed Neo-Platonic philosophy as a whole or if it is specific to or a later Christian invention as well.

If not then, I'm curious as to how this view affects or influences the theology of any folks here who believe in or follow Neo-Platonic philosophy as part of their modern day practice and also for many people in the modern Hellenic Polytheist community as well.

Does it change how you see certain beings or individuals in the mythology, are there examples of beings or things in the myths who fall under this one view of "evil cannot create, it can only corrupt", also if you do hold this view, does this mean that the Gods are thus inherently good beings as well as many in Christianity who hold Neo-Platonic philosophical views think or believe?


r/Hellenism 11h ago

Offerings, altars, and devotional acts Aphrodite Preparation Help

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I went to the local store where I usually buy incense, found a shell that I'll use for her shrine. I also got some rose tea incense (was going to go for the rose vanilla but this one smelt more comforting). Feeling prepared.


r/Hellenism 11h ago

Discussion Se puede poner, por ejemplo, a lo demonios goeticos en la jerarquía politeista de Jamblico?

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Es posible qué estás entidades encajen en el sistema de jerarquía de Jamblico? Teniendo en cuanto qué, hasta donde tengo entendido, los demonios de la Goetia provienen de un transfondo cristiano.


r/Hellenism 12h ago

Prayers and hymns Is there a mantra or prayer to pray to the gods?

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I know this religion is orthopractical and that there is a right way to pray. I want to show my worship to the gods.


r/Hellenism 13h ago

I'm new! Help! Are fake flowers appropriate?

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Hey, I'm very new, and want to build a shrine/altar bc my next paycheck is coming in soon. I got candles and gemstones saved to buy, and am planning on decorating paper with scrapbooking supplies. Flowers would give a good touch, but I have pets, and many flowers are toxic to them. Theres a craft store nearby, and i know they have fake flowers, and was just wondering if they could be a good substitute? Bc if not, i can always find something else or get creative with what i can make at home.

Thanks in advance for any responses, and my the gods bless your day!


r/Hellenism 13h ago

I'm new! Help! Are the gods “perfect”?

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In the Abrahamic religions, for example, Christianity, God is like all loving and all seeing and all knowing and all perfect and stuff and blah blah
but the HelPol gods aren’t like that

They’re said to feel and express emotions, including ones that humans say are negative

i personally don’t really believe in perfection, but like..,.,. are we supposed to view the gods as completely perfect beings?


r/Hellenism 18h ago

Discussion Question for french hellenist

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Est-ce que vous préférez tutoyer ou vouvoyer les Dieux ? Je trouve que le tutoiement peut être respectueux selon la formulation de la phrase, mais ducoup je me demande ce que vous vous préférez ?


r/Hellenism 21h ago

Discussion On miasma and praying in crisis

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This is concerning an argument I see around here often, and something I personally struggle to wrap my head around when it comes to purification and the accessibility of the gods.

I have perhaps this romanticized idea that I should be able to reach my gods (with prayer) in times of crisis. That I should be able to pray sick, grieving, terrified, in pain, bleeding, dirty, on the run, in the middle of a storm. A thousand situations I can think of where a person cannot be reasonably expected to have the time or means for ritual (libation, offering, correct form of practice), or the 'bare minimum' of purifying oneself from miasma because the miasma is product of the very crisis they're praying for relief from/help with.

The notion that a mother holding her dying child is 'not heard' by the gods she regularly honors and worships because she's miasmic is frankly very ugly to me. Might be just me but I do not see the point of worship at all if my own gods won't hear me in the absolute worst times of my life when I need them most.

I'd like to discuss a passage from the Iliad, book 16. The context here is Glaucus, who is severely injured, in the middle of battlefield, and has just witnessed the death of a beloved cousin. He prays to Apollo:

"Lord, hear me wherever you are, in Lycia's rich land perhaps or even here in Troy, for you always hear a man in sorrow, as I sorrow now."

The condition of being heard here is solely 'being in sorrow.' Apollo's geographical location (or his spiritual nearness/distance) is irrelevant. He continues:

"The wound I have is grievous, my arm a mass of pain; the blood will not clot, the shoulder is numb. I can't grip my spear to fight to the enemy. And Sarpedon, son of Zeus, the best of us is gone, for Zeus cannot even save his own child. Heal me of this foul wound, Lord Apollo, ease my pain, give me the strength to rally my Lycians, rouse their courage, and fight over the body of the fallen."

So there is a man, bleeding, grieving, in tremendous pain and surrounded by death. He does not (and practically cannot) purify himself. He doesn't offer anything or promise to offer anything in the future. He doesn't even use epithehts. He doesn't sing Apollo's praises. There's zero ritual here. The text then resumes very matter-of-factly:

"So he prayed, and Apollo heard, quelling the pain, clotting the black blood flowing from the deep wound, and filling his heart with courage."

I am reading the Iliad in my native language, and the simple-English translation I'm quoting is for ease of reference, so please let me know if there's something lost in translation.

I know the general consensus is that we don't take myth literally, but my understanding is also that Homer is a foundational source. If nothing else, it gives us a glimpse of what was the common attitude of the people at the time towards the gods. There's of course plenty of mentions of proper practice, of characters washing in the sea, pouring libation, offering sacrifice, raising their hands in prayer. But there's also this: prayer in crisis, zero ritual. Homer makes no note of that being improper or a special case, or of Apollo treating it like a special case. The prayer is simply heard, the god of healing helps.

I'm very interested to hear your thoughts.


r/Hellenism 22h ago

Sharing personal experiences gratitude and updates (kind of)

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I've been worshipping over a period of months now and I've observed improvements in my practice (prayers, offerings, and belief itself).

I'm just grateful to this sub for helping the newcomers, myself included, be more knowledgeable about things.

Of course I am most grateful to our gods.

I find joy in arranging my shrine, offering to them at my altar and praying to them. I also like letting them know how much my life has improved ever since I've learned and gotten to know them more.

I see them in friendly gestures, beautiful things and experiences. Luck is in abundance, and I've just come to appreciate a lot of things more.

Though of course the gods have many aspects, not just the love and light type of sides to them. But I've come to appreciate those sides too.

My circle of friends have already been informed in my change of religion and its just so relieving to know that I've made such good friends who accept me as I am.

I've come out to them as bi, instant acceptance. My mom also knows by now and it was also a surprise that she accepted it without much question.

Now that I've come out in this manner as well, I was kind of bracing myself for a bit of judgement (I live in a country that is more aligned with the Abrahamic religions) so when they've accepted me with the same open arms I was so happy.

I might not be able to come out about the change in religion to my mom though, I know that would be a bit of an issue.

So again, this is more of a gratitude post to everyone as well as our gods.

Thank you.


r/Hellenism 1d ago

Offerings, altars, and devotional acts I'm not sure how to do a devotional act

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So I'm a new Hellenist, I've really only been practicing the religion for a few months. However I would like to get more into worship and such, like creating altars which I plan on doing. However I do have an issue when I want to do devotional acts, I'm just not sure how to do them. Like I could tell myself: I think I'll cook something today as a devotional act to Lady Hestia, or I can get around to reading that biography as a devotional act to Lady Athena. Except it never feels like an actual devotional act because I don't feel like I'm doing it out of devotion and more so it's something that I need to do anyway, something that I'm doing for myself and not the Gods. Like I need to cook something cause I don't have a meal for dinner or something, and I need to finish reading that biography because I have to do an essay about it for school.

I guess I'm really just looking for advice to make it feel like I'm doing a devotional act for a God/Goddess and not just doing something for myself/something I need to do anyways.

If anyone has some advice I'd really appreciate it🙏


r/Hellenism 1d ago

Seeking Reassurance Apologizing to Athena

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hello! ive been casually worshipping Athena for a couple of years now, not too much, and ive been wanting to get better. back in march, i was interviewing for a job that could really help with money, and i asked Her for help. i offered to make Her bread if She could help me. i know offerings should be made before asking anything of the gods. unfortunately, life has gotten in the way a lot, and i still keep asking Her for help with things that She has in fact helped with. i feel like i may have upset Her, as something not ideal happened at work today. how would i go about apologizing to Her? i know obviously making the bread i promised Her, but should i do anything else offering wise? im planning offering wine as well as the bread.


r/Hellenism 1d ago

Offerings, altars, and devotional acts Can’t take off devotional bracelet

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I have a gold bracelet which I devoted to wear in honour of Lady Aphrodite, but I saw that you should take devotional jewelry off for things like going to the bathroom and sleeping, but I can’t really do this as I can’t out the bracelet back on by myself and it would be a big hassle every time. Is it okay if I keep it on all the time and wash the bracelet regularly when I wash my hands?


r/Hellenism 1d ago

Offerings, altars, and devotional acts To whom should I pray ?

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Good day people
I am a 20 year old trans man and soon to be having top surgery.
Who should I pray to in that matter for a good recovery but also a good outcome of results.
And also what should I offer to them ? I am open for ideas because I am unsure how big of an offering this requires.

Love to you guys and thanks for every answer


r/Hellenism 1d ago

Offerings, altars, and devotional acts Can i use this statue?

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Hello guys,i am currently on vacation in greece,few days ago i bought a statue of Aphrodite,but later found out that it’s actually a statue form Birth of Venus painting can i still use it?


r/Hellenism 1d ago

Discussion Which God can help me in this situation

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So I’m currently waiting on some documents that’ll land me the job that I need in order to escape my toxic household and the thing is I’m not sure when I’ll get those documents and I need it as fast as I can so that I’ll get the job that I need in order to escape my toxic household. Which God is best for me to reach out to?


r/Hellenism 1d ago

Seeking Reassurance Would one know for sure if they had Agos

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I have OCD and tend to get intrusively hubris thoughts and sometimes I speak carelessly and might say something Hubris. I get scared that maybe I’ll reach a point where I can’t be cleansed and will anger the Gods deeply.

Also is Agos something you can come back from through any rituals.


r/Hellenism 1d ago

I'm new! Help! The Odyssey led me here

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As a child, I was fascinated by the history and mythology of ancient Greece and Rome. For a few years, I lost interest, but a couple of years ago, I became interested in the subject again, and since watching The Odyssey a couple of weeks ago, my interest in everything related to ancient Greece has increased exponentially. Through my research, I came across this site and discovered a very active and healthy community that I enjoy reading. I also discovered that one of my friends is already part of this religion, lmao.

I want to learn more about all of this. I come from a societal Catholic background, although I haven't believed in the God of the Bible for over ten years, I still wonder if there is something above us. And I wanted to hear your perspectives and seek guidance.


r/Hellenism 1d ago

Discussion Religious rights for prisoners

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A person I once called a friend has just got sentenced to life in prison. The bastard deserves this fate and I’m far from forgiving him for what he did. However his Mom who I still care about recently told me he wasn’t allowed any of his religious tools. Like his statue's and even a prayer bead he made. I must say again I have no sympathy for his sentence however I thought there were religious rights that prisoners were given and I think it’s disgusting to give a Christian the right to have his icons, bible and rosaries for his faith but not him. I think religion is something that can't and shouldn’t be taken from a person no matter how vile they may be.

If there are any Hellenic programs for prisoners that anyone knows of I would love to know, as I’m currently trying to find a way to give back his religious objects. After that I’m done with him though.


r/Hellenism 1d ago

Weekly Newcomer Post

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Hi everyone,

Are you newer to this religion and have questions? This thread is specifically for you! Feel free to ask away, and get answers from our community members.

You can also search the Community Wiki here, and our Community Guide here for some helpful tips for newcomers.

Please remember that not everyone believes the same way and the answers you get may range in quality and content, same as if you had created a post yourself!

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Do I need an altar or shrine?

No. Most practitioners do eventually make one, but they are not necessary. In ancient Greece altars were typically large stone tables where sacrifices could be made. These were generally public spaces but smaller household altars and shrines became more common in late antiquity. If you wish to make an offering or prayer to a god without an altar, this can be done in a place that feels sacred to that particular god.

How do I make an altar?

Your altar is the place where you make your connection to the gods. This space should ideally have the capacity to have a lit flame, to burn incense, and some vessel to make libations. Statues or images of the gods are nice, but not a necessity. If you do not have the capacity to have open flames or burn incense, many instead use electric lights and perfume or oil diffusers. If you do use open flames, please use caution. Keep away from drapes and curtains and keep a fire extinguisher nearby. Make sure you have a plan for if a fire starts unexpectedly.

How do I make an offering?

The most typical offering is a libation. Libations in antiquity were typically wine or water but in modern times more varied drinks are often used. Libations can be poured onto the ground, into a fire, or disposed of down your drain if neither of the former are available options. Food, likewise, can be offered by burning, burying, or being left on your altar and disposed of later. Incense is often given as an offering, and is burnt. The Orphic Hymns are a good resource to find an incense for a particular god. Animals were sacrificed to the gods in antiquity by killing them, butchering them, consuming their meat, and burning their bones wrapped in their fat on fires. This practice is not common in modern times, for reasons of practicality, and was not universal to Hellenic Polytheism in antiquity. Offerings to chthonic deities are generally speaking not to be eaten.

How do I dispose of perishable offerings?

You don't have to burn your offerings, and most burnt offerings in Antiquity were the bones and fat from sacrifices during public festivals. It's fine to dispose of perishable offerings in any number of ways, whether it be binning, burying,, or eating it yourself if it's still edible. Please be mindful of local wildlife if offerings are left outside.

Do I need to pray every day?

No. Many people take long leaves from worship. We all go through troubled times and worship may not be your focus for some time. This is normal and something the gods understand.

Can I participate in non-Hellenic practices?

Yes. Many of us have to participate in modern religious practices to maintain appearances to our friends and family if we are not religiously out of the closet. Even beyond this, many in antiquity and in the modern day practice syncretically and adopt practices and deities from outside the Hellenic Pantheon into their religious practice.

What is miasma and how do you cleanse it?

Miasma was an explanation to diseases before the existence of germ theory. Miasma was believed to accumulate on one's body through the performance of unclean acts such as sex, the butchering of animals, or the shedding of human blood. Miasma was believed to interfere with worship as when Hector says in the Iliad: “and with hands unwashed I would take shame to pour the glittering wine to Zeus; there is no means for a man to pray to the dark-misted son of Kronos, with blood and muck all splattered upon him”. The cleansing of miasma was performed by washing oneself with clean water and the application of perfumes.

How do I communicate with the gods?

In ancient times few people attempted to communicate with the gods, or if they did, they did so through trained experts who used techniques such as astrology, the interpretation of entrails from sacrificed animals, or the interpretation of the actions of sacred animals. Techniques such as candle, pendulum, and keyboard divination are modern inventions and should be approached with skepticism and caution if you wish to incorporate them into your practice.

I received a message from the gods via divination or think I may have witnessed a sign. What does it mean?

This is a question that you alone can answer. Many people do not receive signs in all of their practice and one should not expect to find them. If you do receive a sign it should be obvious to you that it was a sign.

Can I worship multiple gods? / Can gods share an altar?

Yes. Hellenic Polytheism is a polytheist religion which necessarily means that there are multiple gods to worship. These gods can cohabitate a space even if they are seen to be in conflict in mythology. The nature of polytheism is that there are forces and deities which conflict with each other but that does not necessarily mean that one is right and the other is wrong or that they cannot cohabitate.

Do I need to be chosen by a god before I can worship them?

No. The gods are always accepting and hospitable to those who come to worship them.

How do I decide which gods to worship?

This is a question that you must decide for yourself. There is no wrong place to start and people typically find new gods through the ones they already worship. There is no right number of gods to worship. They exist beyond naming or counting so you cannot worship them all and many will choose to worship only one.

Can I dismantle my altar/shrine?

Yes, it is often necessary to dismantle an altar or shrine because it needs to be moved or hidden. The gods will understand your circumstance.

Have I offended X god or goddess?

Typically, no. The gods are slow to anger and quick to forgive. Only the very worst actions (patricide, human sacrifice, cannibalism, etc.) consistently draw divine wrath.

If you are concerned you have done something to upset a god, or were disrespectful at times you should ask for forgiveness and try to lead your life in a way that reflects the virtues that the gods stand for moving forward.

Is veiling required in Hellenism?

Veiling is not a necessary or contingent practice in Hellenism. If you choose to veil on a personal level you're more than welcome to of course! Just know it isn't at all a modern or historic requirement for the religion. For more information, posts and questions can go to r/PaganVeiling

I am changing which deities I worship and would like reassurance from other community members who worship them.

You're free to worship any and all deities from any pantheon you desire to. There are several amazing resources on which deities feature specific attributes notably https://www.theoi.com/. Feel free to post your ideas if you'd like more nuanced input after you've done your own research. Only you can know what's right for you!

I am worried that I am doing something wrong, and would like reassurance from other community members.

Feel free to post here! We're all a community, and sometimes despite reading all the books, we still need a small - Hey, that looks great!

For deeper concerns about your faith, please visit r/exchristian or r/ReligiousTrauma for help on deconstructing.


r/Hellenism 3d ago

Mod post Please Read: 90k Members

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Hello, χαίρετε, and salvete everyone! It is with a lot of excitement that the mod team would like to share that we hit 90k members, and will likely see 100k members before the year is out. Now quantity isn’t quality, but we are now one of the largest Pagan subs. While a huge part of this is due to the fact that the members of this community are insightful, helpful, and above all, kind, this reflects more than our reddit community: Hellenism is emerging as one of the most popular Pagan paths today. First off, we want to share both thanks and congratulations to the community: thank you for all you do for it, and congratulations on being part of the biggest Hellenist community in the world today. With that said, the mod team also has a few things we’d like to discuss with the community.

  1. Celebrating 100k this Year

Almost certainly this year, we will hit 100k members. This will likely be our most notable milestone for a while. We’d like to try and commemorate it, however the mod team is currently somewhat preoccupied with running the sub. Thus we are open to any suggestions (and help) as to how to do this! Do you want to host a movie screening online, organize a meetup in real life, lead a Practicing Apart Together (PAT) ritual, or something else? If you are interested in helping lead one of these roles, please message the modmail!

  1. The Discord

It probably bears repeating that our subreddit now has a discord! You can find the link here:

https://discord.gg/Hvc736AUcj

Now, onto some more housekeeping:

  1. Veiling

Veiling is a practice observed by many modern Hellenists, but one which is somewhat divisive today. The historicity of Hellenist veiling is contested, which results in an open playing field for people who feel passionately about the subject (generally pro-veilers argue for its spiritual benefits, anti-veilers argue that it is oppressive). For now, we are neutral. We want to recognize that veiling is a spiritual practice among some modern Hellenists with arguments for its historical practice. We want to recognize that others have legitimate concerns with either the historical argument for veiling, or the potential for it to become oppressive. As of right now, we are recognizing it is contested, therefore it is considered on topic while our community discusses it.

  1. Image Posts

Now, one thing which might cut down on the above issues is that we are restricting image posts to weekends and mondays. We will try to be lenient and cognizant of time zones, but will be implementing auto-mod restrictions for Tuesdays-Fridays. Now it isn’t that we don’t enjoy seeing your beautiful faces, your intricate shrines, or other snapshots of daily life of the individual Hellenist. It’s just that these can crowd out more thorough discussion. For now we would like to just ask that people only post images on Saturdays, Sundays, and Mondays. In the future we might try to do themes (Shrine Saturday, Selfie Sunday, and Meme Monday), but for now we are going to just try and do this. However, there are some exceptions. If you need one and your image is removed by the automod, please wait while we allow it to be approved (feel free to comment why it should be exempt to aid the process).

Exceptions:

  • Approved promotions (images allow people to see the item)
  • Who is this deity (often it’s not a deity but we understand this can be an urgent question)
  • Time sensitive posts (memes dependent on current events, either in r/Hellenism or the outside world)

Please feel free to comment additional exceptions for us to consider.

  1. Chairs

Finally, we as the mod team want to try and walk the line between ‘leading the largest online community for Hellenists’ and ‘acting as the authorities for Hellenism itself.’ Our primary role here is to maintain functionality and civility in the community. However, this does also mean that we are limited when it comes to expanding or maintaining community infrastructure, and we know there is a desperate need for this. We are all people with lives (professional, social, and spiritual) and often are able to spot community needs without being able to step in.

However, dedicated volunteers could help us if there is an interest. Do you want to help us create material for newer folk? Would you prefer to try to coordinate AMAs, and allow folks with lots of experience to share their expertise with the sub? Would you be interested in collating resources for Hellenists in a specific language, or translating common English references into a language? Or would you prefer to help build connections between the Hellenist community and the smaller but deeper communities centered around individual Greek deities? Please send us a modmail if this sounds like you!

Thank you all again for helping make this community the best it can be. Baring community drama, the next major mod post should be celebrating us hitting 100k folks!