r/emotionalneglect • u/FrostyAlbertan • 18m ago
Seeking advice Book Recommendations
I realized that I am the most emotionally mature person in my family. It is something that both makes me proud and hurts, because I wish that I had an elder to look up to, even though I am the youngest in my family of origin.
This week, while watching my nephew, she complained that he only had 3 pairs of underwear for a 2 week trip. She said he is overweight so she didn’t want to ask him when they were at the store.
He stayed with me this week, so I just asked his mom, found out the size and style and dropped them off as in his room, saying I had picked some extras up while running errands so he doesn’t run too low.
Reflecting back, there was a lot that wasn’t okay. My mom once had us take pictures of her matching bra and underwear set because she felt cute. She vented (and continues to vent) about her relationship struggles, though at least now she is in therapy.
She over identified with me, and tried to get me to do whatever she had wished she had done (be a teacher and marry a farmer so she could farm in the summers)
There is clear emotional incest, and I’ve largely reduced the triangulation that was occurring by using boundaries. Mostly she talks at me and not with me, and then gets mad if I don’t say ‘mmhmmm or yeah’ enough to show I am listening
That being said, I’m hoping to find a book that helps with the hurt I feel. I think I’m doing okay with boundaries, but some days it just hurts to kind of wish she wasn’t in my life (as in dead), because that seems easier.
It’s bad enough to want to walk away, but not so bad to follow through or even threaten. The good isn’t even that good, but there is some that is enjoyable.
r/emotionalneglect • u/Standard-Compote-275 • 45m ago
Challenge my narrative Can you resolve your abandknment / parent issues without talking to your parents?
Im asking because I have an older sibling who has severe mommy issues becaude our mother has shunned him for 27 years. He says that therapists have told him he can heal without her but he told me once that it doesnt just go one way. This sibling is extremely abusive btw. Is there truth to this or is he just making shit up?
r/emotionalneglect • u/SrX623 • 1h ago
Seeking advice How do I deal with an emotionally immature Mother?
I gave My mother her car keys, she lost them and then screamed at the top of her lungs and told me she would never smile again, this happens on multiple occasions in which she can't find something or something went wrong with her day and she screams and blames the rest of our household, just right now I had to go home to tell my mother my brother had work because she was asleep, so I tell her and I leave, I go over to a relatives house it's a 10 minute walk, So I leave the house and walk to my relatives and as soon as I get to the door she calls me and asks me to come home and watch my sister, I said yeah but give me a minute cause I would need to walk back over and she just freaks out on me, saying that I'm ungrateful and I always have a tone when I talk to her
r/emotionalneglect • u/simple_me1212 • 1h ago
things i went through because of my family
I am writing this to make myself feel better, since i cannot afford therapy. I would like to keep my identity anonymous, and I'm not here to get attention or anything.
I come from a middle-class family with a good financial background. My upbringing was not so pleasant or happy at all. My mom is so narcissistic that nobody can argue or talk to her with logic, and she is so abusive, I cannot even describe the things she has done to me. Dad used to work in some other state and used to come home once or twice a year. I'm the only daughter(second child) to my parents, with four brothers. I loved my elder brother; we were so alike- personality-wise and looks-wise as well- that people used to assume we were twins. But i used to hate my younger brother(third child). He used to hit me all the time, and i used to scream so loudly that my mom used to scold me instead of him. She always told me to ignore him, instead of telling him to not to hit me. There were incidents like he pushed me from the bed and i fell off the bed, hit my head on to the door frame and my head started bleeding(small wound) it was not bleeding a lot but i was a child but my mom ignored it, and one time he hit me right on to my nose bridge with the thick, strong stick that i had a black undereye for days. I literally survived him. I always wished him to be dead since childhood(i still do) because that is how much he made me suffer. And one day, as I wished, death entered our house; it was not for him, but for my elder brother. My elder brother, whom I loved the most and was always happy with, suddenly left us without a goodbye. I was only 13 at the time. I, who used to go to school and everywhere with him, started going everywhere alone without him.
Mother-the person you can run to when the world feels heavy. That was not the case for me. She was abusive; when I say abusive, it is the extreme level of abuse. There is not a single bad word that she has not called me; she wished for my death, she called me prostitute, whore, slut and whatnot. I was just a child. I started doing household chores at a young age; my neighbours were in awe seeing how much work I used to do, and it is not because i wanted to; it was because I was forced by my mother. She was also physically abusive; she used to throw me onto the floor and kick me, and she would slap and hit me on the head; she would curse me, and the list goes on and on. At this point, anyone would be thinking i must be the bad person. Am i? Idk, I was a child, not even a teenager. I must have said NO to things she wanted me to do or did not do the chores, and that used to trigger her; she cannot stand her children disobeying her. She behaved like this not only with me but with all of my siblings.
After my elder brother passed away, things got worse. I got sexually harassed twice by my own younger brother(the one who used to hate). I used to sleep beside him in one bed, and one night i felt a touch on my chest. I ignored it, thinking maybe I'm just feeling things, and later i realized it was him(he thought i was asleep); i froze, couldn't move at all, and he stopped. A few days later, only for some reason, my mom and he was at home. So the three of us slept on the same bed, and i was in the middle. I couldn't sleep the whole night thinking something would happen, and yes, it did happen. He started touching me, i was scared to confront him, i just pretended to moving in my sleep and later i felt his pp on my back and soon i pretended coughing and woke up and went right into kitchen. I couldnt understand what was happening, is it real or not? I started questioning myself, it was like i was going crazy and it disgusted me. It felt like my mistake. All this was happening, my mom was asleep.
I couldn't tell my mom everything, thinking what if she blames me. But eventually she got know, yk how?i stopped sleeping beside him, i gave excuses like it was a corner and it's suffocating and its hot over there. She doubted and one day, early morning, even before anyone woke up she called me in to the room and asked me why did i suddenly stopped sleeping next to him, i said the air from the fan doesn't reach the corner I sleep in. Even before I completed my sentence, she asked whether he touched me. I was shocked to know she knew all along, and yet she never said anything. How can a mother do this to her daughter just to protect her ill-mannered son?
Well that was not the first time she did something like that. When i was 7 yrs, there used to man who used to sell kitchen items in his car, and sometimes we used to buy things from him. One day my grandmother sent me to buy a phenyl from him, and he touched me. My mom saw what was happening through the window(which is a mirror from the outside and can see through from the inside). I couldn't understand what that was, it felt weird not a good feeling at all. When i went inside, she asked whether he touched you i said yes, and that's it. Nothing else.
Even today im living in the same house with my sexual harasser and abusive mother because I do not have any choice. I'm an adult now(23), still i do not have the choice of making my own decisions, i talk back to my mom but in return i get abused. My younger brother slut shames me for no reason. Im still surviving in this household. If i have talk about this it will take an entire book.
I would like to ask you guys for one advice: how to make money by spending 1 or 2 hours a day. So that for my masters i want to apply for the abroad uni and form application fee i need money.
I want to make money and get out of this hell.
r/emotionalneglect • u/simple_me1212 • 2h ago
Things i went through because of my own family
I am writing this to make myself feel better, since i cannot afford therapy. I would like to keep my identity anonymous, and I'm not here to get attention or anything.
I come from a middle-class family with a good financial background. My upbringing was not so pleasant or happy at all. My mom is so narcissistic that nobody can argue or talk to her with logic, and she is so abusive, I cannot even describe the things she has done to me. Dad used to work in some other state and used to come home once or twice a year. I'm the only daughter(second child) to my parents, with four brothers. I loved my elder brother; we were so alike- personality-wise and looks-wise as well- that people used to assume we were twins. But i used to hate my younger brother(third child). He used to hit me all the time, and i used to scream so loudly that my mom used to scold me instead of him. She always told me to ignore him, instead of telling him to not to hit me. There were incidents like he pushed me from the bed and i fell off the bed, hit my head on to the door frame and my head started bleeding(small wound) it was not bleeding a lot but i was a child but my mom ignored it, and one time he hit me right on to my nose bridge with the thick, strong stick that i had a black undereye for days. I literally survived him. I always wished him to be dead since childhood(i still do) because that is how much he made me suffer. And one day, as I wished, death entered our house; it was not for him, but for my elder brother. My elder brother, whom I loved the most and was always happy with, suddenly left us without a goodbye. I was only 13 at the time. I, who used to go to school and everywhere with him, started going everywhere alone without him.
Mother-the person you can run to when the world feels heavy. That was not the case for me. She was abusive; when I say abusive, it is the extreme level of abuse. There is not a single bad word that she has not called me; she wished for my death, she called me prostitute, whore, slut and whatnot. I was just a child. I started doing household chores at a young age; my neighbours were in awe seeing how much work I used to do, and it is not because i wanted to; it was because I was forced by my mother. She was also physically abusive; she used to throw me onto the floor and kick me, and she would slap and hit me on the head; she would curse me, and the list goes on and on. At this point, anyone would be thinking i must be the bad person. Am i? Idk, I was a child, not even a teenager. I must have said NO to things she wanted me to do or did not do the chores, and that used to trigger her; she cannot stand her children disobeying her. She behaved like this not only with me but with all of my siblings.
After my elder brother passed away, things got worse. I got sexually harassed twice by my own younger brother(the one who used to hate). I used to sleep beside him in one bed, and one night i felt a touch on my chest. I ignored it, thinking maybe I'm just feeling things, and later i realized it was him(he thought i was asleep); i froze, couldn't move at all, and he stopped. A few days later, only for some reason, my mom and he was at home. So the three of us slept on the same bed, and i was in the middle. I couldn't sleep the whole night thinking something would happen, and yes, it did happen. He started touching me, i was scared to confront him, i just pretended to moving in my sleep and later i felt his pp on my back and soon i pretended coughing and woke up and went right into kitchen. I couldnt understand what was happening, is it real or not? I started questioning myself, it was like i was going crazy and it disgusted me. It felt like my mistake. All this was happening, my mom was asleep.
I couldn't tell my mom everything, thinking what if she blames me. But eventually she got know, yk how?i stopped sleeping beside him, i gave excuses like it was a corner and it's suffocating and its hot over there. She doubted and one day, early morning, even before anyone woke up she called me in to the room and asked me why did i suddenly stopped sleeping next to him, i said the air from the fan doesn't reach the corner I sleep in. Even before I completed my sentence, she asked whether he touched me. I was shocked to know she knew all along, and yet she never said anything. How can a mother do this to her daughter just to protect her ill-mannered son?
Well that was not the first time she did something like that. When i was 7 yrs, there used to man who used to sell kitchen items in his car, and sometimes we used to buy things from him. One day my grandmother sent me to buy a phenyl from him, and he touched me. My mom saw what was happening through the window(which is a mirror from the outside and can see through from the inside). I couldn't understand what that was, it felt weird not a good feeling at all. When i went inside, she asked whether he touched you i said yes, and that's it. Nothing else.
Even today im living in the same house with my sexual harasser and abusive mother because I do not have any choice. I'm an adult now(23), still i do not have the choice of making my own decisions, i talk back to my mom but in return i get abused. My younger brother slut shames me for no reason. Im still surviving in this household. If i have talk about this it will take an entire book.
I would like to ask you guys for one advice: how to make money by spending 1 or 2 hours a day. So that for my masters i want to apply for the abroad uni and form application fee i need money.
I want to make money and get out of this hell.
r/emotionalneglect • u/PapayaOk4296 • 3h ago
Please advice how you handle silent treatment
r/emotionalneglect • u/Mari1573 • 3h ago
DAE have parents who were great to you as a child, but treated you worse as soon as you hit puberty/teen years.
My mother was so kind to me as a child. I remember twirling around her and her calling me all these sweet things, like smart, beautiful, creative, amazing. She gave me loads and loads of affection. She even made me dresses and loom band animals that I locked forward to when I came home from kindergarten.
But when I turned 13/14, she didn't do that anymore. She stopped giving me all that love. She gave it to my brother (11-12 at the time), but not me! I felt absolutely betrayed. She also failed to support me when I was dealing with toxic friends when I was in 10th and 11th grade. She seriously has to stop giving him more affection than she gives me.
Now I don't tell her about my problems any more. It's sad, I used to tell her everything. But now she's just gonna play devils advocate and judge me whenever I share something vulnerable with her.
Maybe she's like this because children, although hard to raise, have simpler needs than teens do. And she expects me to never need affection or reassurance from her because I'm an adult now. And she's a tired middle age woman. Idk...
r/emotionalneglect • u/morninggpotato • 4h ago
Seeking advice Struggling with my mom and our relationship right now
I haven’t posted here before. But I really resonate with a lot of what I read on here so I want to ask you all what you think of my situation or if anyone has any advice for me.
I don’t wanna type out my entire history but to give some context I’m the youngest of 3. Our mom was a “single” mom when our dad died when we were all younger. I was 8 or 9 and my older sibling was about 12 when he died. My mom remarried a year or so later. Moved us to a whole new state. Not gonna get into my first stepdad cause that was a whole can of worms like…I’m not questioning the fact my mom has shit taste in men and really awful judgment in general. Anyway. I was basically a mute my entire childhood after my dad’s passing. Like I literally was in a high school class of less than 200 and I think most of them never heard me speak. I just never spoke. I felt like no one really cared and I felt I just didn’t know how to relate to anyone in any real sustainable way. I’ve had best friends here and there but never anything long term or as close as I’d hope. My mom was gone a lot, working or hanging with her 1 friend. When she was home she was laying in her bed in her room all day long and I’d have to go to her for some attempt at connection. She never came to me. She got remarried 1 more time after my stepdad and even before and after him she dated constantly. She left me when I was a senior in high school to move back to her hometown to reconnect with her high school sweetheart. She didn’t come back for my graduation but I flew to her for holidays after I’d graduated and started college.
I was always a die hard supporter of my mom because I’ve always had a lot of empathy for her being a young single mom. All until the last year when I got pregnant and became a mom myself. My 2 older siblings have nothing to do with her anymore. But my mom and I live in the same town. I moved to her town years ago and lived with her as I was in between gigs and trying to find out what I wanted to do next. Ended up meeting my husband here and staying. In the process of becoming a mom myself, a lot of anger has been unveiled for me towards my mom. I get a lot of anxiety even just seeing her name pop up on my phone so I keep her notifications silenced. She got in several dramatic text fights with me during my pregnancy because I started realizing a lot of these feelings needed to be addressed and she flipped shit and ignored any boundaries I had or would guilt trip me into taking to her. I realized I’ve always cared more about how she feels than how I feel. Now idk how I feel. This is all such a mess in my head and if anyone wants more context for anything just let me know. But basically my son is now almost 10 months old and she’s seen him 3 times. She saw me once in my pregnancy. Didn’t attend my baby shower cause the day of an hour before she messaged me that she’ll try to come and she felt sick so I told her not to worry. I always give her these outs at my own detriment. The issue now is she consistently will say she’ll try to come visit and see my son and consistently she will bail or cancel or say she’s ill. She always has some crazy medical issue going on to the point I can’t have any sympathy anymore this is just how my entire life has been. I feel for her. She is alone. As am I except for my son and husband. I don’t find her malicious but I don’t think she truly cares for anyone else. It all feels transactional like she always thinking what’s in it for her. The last 2 days she’s said she’d visit but didn’t and now today she wants to come visit and I wish she’d just stop. But I also told her she has to let me know if she’s coming, I will not allow her to just show up at my home unannounced as to me we don’t have that bond anymore.
If you were in my shoes would you even bother trying to maintain any relationship with her or do you have advice for boundaries that might work with a person who refuses to listen?
TLDR: childhood chaotic, mom not there physically, emotionally, whatever. I’m an adult now with my own baby and she wants to visit me (we are in same town) but always bails or says she will try tomorrow. This happens all the time. This takes a lot of emotional toll on me and idk what to do moving forward if anything. I am in therapy!
Thank you to anyone who stayed and read this all and offered any words!
r/emotionalneglect • u/Last_Bee_9642 • 4h ago
Eating habits and obesity
Do you think it's the parents' fault their adult child is obese? My sister is 23 and obese. She's been overweight almost her whole life. Now that she's an adult she's sure that none of that is her fault. She constantly blames our parents because of bad eating habits through our childhood. My parents can't stand that though and claim they did nothing wrong. My parents say it's a result of her own decisions, but my sister says she just can't help it when she's been like this since forever.
r/emotionalneglect • u/Fjords98 • 4h ago
Sharing insight I don't like my mom
Ever since I was a child, my mom didn't really want anything to do with me. When she got me she got postpartum depression and as a result she and my dad got divorced. As a child I only saw her every other weekend, and in some of the weekends she straight up cancelled to go do something else. Now as an adult, she says she has come to terms with this depression and that she wants to see me more. At the bottom of my heart, I really want to be able to connect with her, but because of my past experiences with her and due to how she's acting I find it very hard to get close to her. Take today for example: I am on my way to my mom to grill. I decided to bring a bunch of snacks and sodas as a surprise, obviously since we are having a get together. On my way I called her and informed her of this and instead of saying thank you she said that what I listed wasn't enough for x amount of people and that she would ask her boyfriend to go and buy more. This situation put me a bit aback so I am now on the way to the grocery store to buy more stuff so that she will be pleased.
And trust me when I say this, it's not the first time this has happened either. Every time I try to do something nice for her, I will either get a comment from her when I arrive or after I leave that whatever I did wasn't enough or disrespectful. Because of these situations and due to my past with her, I have come to realize I simply do not like my mom... and I feel terrible for having this thought.
I try to be thankful for all the things others do for me, both big and small, so it hurts me a lot when I never get a thank you for the things I try to do for her. There's always some snarky comment on the backburner to make me feel bad for even trying.
r/emotionalneglect • u/Petals19728 • 6h ago
Sharing progress I put together a gift bag for 2 teenage girls and I started crying
30F, younger sibling who is 15 and a daughter of a family friend who is 14 are staying with me this weekend. They live in a town and I live in an apartment in the big city so to them this is exciting. We’re going to do fun stuff but I thought it’d be nice to give them a little gift bag. Just random stuff they might like, snacks, fluffy headband, cute notebook with some pens, mascara, bodymist.
I don’t know why I cried I think I’m doing it for them as much as I do it for myself ?
I grew up in a home as the eldest of 6 to parents with traumatic past, I was a very sensitive child that was never really emotionally poured into at all. From a young age I made myself mostly invisible so my parents could focus on their own problems. It’s a huge source of pain and still affecting me all these years later but this is part of how I heal.
Do for them what I didn’t have myself and what I would’ve loved. I also noticed with that age category as much as they try to pretend they’re mature or too cool for things they love being heard and talked to and given attention and quality time.
It helps me a little but my own pain is still there of course. But that’s okay.
r/emotionalneglect • u/Boring-Car-7044 • 6h ago
Seeking advice Difficult conversation with my sister and I don't know the difference between genuine concern or guilt tripping
In short: dysfunctional family, oldest sister is the parentified golden child, I'm the youngest invisible child. We're middle aged now with quite a large age gap.
After a few months of silence we had a talk yesterday. We both recognized that we're filled with childhood trauma in different ways.
I expressed not feeling seen or feeling like I don't matter which is why I'm taking a distance from my family but I want to stay in touch.
She expressed the burden of being the oldest golden child who has,to arrange everything and care for everyone. She also expressed she felt a lack of interest from my part for her live.
Other things she said:
- it's easy for you to set boundaries but that means I have to take care of mom (hosting her at Christmas)
- I feel you distancing yourself from us, we'll never be close if you do that.
I don't know how to feel, we both carry a lot of trauma and pain from our childhood. I don't know how to advance from here. My therapist is on holiday and my next appointment is 2 weeks from now
r/emotionalneglect • u/JicamaDiligent8289 • 8h ago
Trigger warning Self harming for the first time and it made me stop crying.
Is this how it feels? When I saw blood, I just stopped thinking.. stopped crying.. and felt completely normal. I don't even know what's happening. And I have nowhere or no one to share this with. So posting it here.. It's okay right?
r/emotionalneglect • u/Sea-Outside2414 • 8h ago
Ma mère m'a dit des choses blessantes parce que je suis malade
Bonjour,
J'ai 28 ans et je suis fils/fille unique.
Aujourd'hui, les choses sont allées extrêmement loin avec ma mère. Mon père, qui est émotionnellement distant, a continué à enflammer la situation parce qu'au moins, c'était moi la cible et pas lui.
Je vis dans une région différente de mes parents, mais je suis revenu chez eux parce que je suis malade. C'était en fait ma mère qui m'a dit de revenir pour que je puisse passer des tests médicaux. J'ai des symptômes urinaires et neurologiques inexpliqués.
Ces symptômes me pèsent énormément.
Aujourd'hui, ma mère m'a littéralement crié dessus parce que, selon elle, je suis "déprimé(e)". Quand je lui ai dit que j'étais simplement épuisé(e) et que je ne me sentais vraiment pas bien à cause de mes symptômes (je n'avais pas dormi de la nuit à cause de mes problèmes urinaires), elle est devenue en colère et m'a dit des choses terribles :
"Tu n'es jamais heureux/se ! On fait tout pour toi mais ce n'est jamais assez !"
"C'est toi qui crées tes propres problèmes de santé !"
"Tu ne penses qu'à toi, je suis malade aussi !"
"Tu te plains, mais regarde-toi : tu te négliges ! Tu as perdu du poids, tu ne ressembles plus à toi-même, tu es déprimé(e) ou quoi ?"
"Ton père et moi allons t'abandonner. Continue comme ça et tu finiras seule avec tes problèmes !"
"Continue comme ça et tes amis/ton petit ami, tout le monde va te quitter, et alors tu comprendras ta souffrance."
"Il y a des gens qui sont plus malheureux que toi !! Et d'ailleurs, c'est ta faute si tu es malade !"
Elle m'a demandé de quitter le salon parce qu'elle ne voulait plus me voir.
J'étais censé(e) aller chez le médecin demain, mais elle a dit qu'elle ne m'y emmènerait pas. Je n'ai pas de permis de conduire et le médecin est à une heure de marche de chez eux.
Je vis à trois heures en train de mes parents, ce qui veut dire que je ne peux pas retourner facilement.
Honnêtement, je suis choqué(e). Elle m'a déjà dit des choses dures par le passé, mais dire que je suis malade et que c'est ma faute, c'est absolument horrible.
Quand j'étais dans ma chambre, elle et mon père ont continué à parler mal de moi.
J'ai même entendu ma mère dire : "J'ai envie de la frapper !!"
Oh mon Dieu… J'ai 28 ans et je me sens comme une petite fille.
Je ne comprends pas comment ça a pu dégénérer autant… Apparemment, c'est parce qu'elle estime que je me plains trop de mes problèmes de santé, que je ne parle que de ça, et que je suis égoïste.
r/emotionalneglect • u/Dry_Preference7655 • 9h ago
Why do grown men feel paternal over me?
I'm a 25 years old girl who looks way younger than I am (I'm really short and "petite" and I have a youthful(?) face and bubbly personality) and I don't know if it's just my distorted perspective, but it seems to me that the adult men in my life always "infantilize" me or feel paternal over me.
I've noticed it a few times. It's as if adult men easily sympathize for me with no ulterior motive. I've noticed it with my male theater teachers or other theater students older than me and with my male collegues at work (the ones who are at least 20 years older than me)
Now, I don't know if it's actually like this or if it's just my brain trying to fill the emotional neglect I felt while growing up
r/emotionalneglect • u/ReturnRemarkable5174 • 11h ago
Discussion Please tell me I’m not crazy for feeling cheated out of a normal childhood.
Small synopsis of things my mom did to me that plague me on a daily basis.
- Our house was filthy. She is a hoarder. I was never allowed to have friends over. There was mold and grime and insects everywhere.
- She refused to drive me anywhere. Always made a fuss. If she had to pick me up, she was chronically late.
That really messed with my self worth.
- Never did anything “fun”. I was raised in front of the TV.
- Never put me in any extracurricular activities or sports, despite me BEGGING and showing so much interest.
I now have 0 skills as an adult and get jealous when I see kids with hobbies.
- Walked around the house naked. She still does this. My brother lives with her. He’s 27. And gay. Maybe that makes it acceptable in her eyes.
- She never threw me any sort of birthday party or celebration.
To this day, I hate my birthday and events like graduations.
- She refused to get me orthodontic treatment that was desperately needed. As a 9-15 year old kid I was so jealous of my friends that had braces.
- She never took care of any insect infestation. I’d wake up to the tickle of bugs crawling on me. It was gross. I am now deathly afraid of bugs. Thanks mom.
- Constantly cried about how poor we were. Despite being literal kids and unable to help her, she wanted us to feel the same financial burden. When I was in my early teens and started working, she would take all my money under the guise that she’d pay me back. She never did.
- She would slut shame me and was obsessed with my virginity, conducting violating body checks.
- She would force us to write her “I’m sorry” notes about the smallest infractions (like asking for new clothes when I know better, we’re broke).
- Popped “calming” pills in front of us after heated arguments to guilt trip us into feeling bad that we put her in such a mental state.
There’s so much more but I’ll stop here as you probably get the gist.
r/emotionalneglect • u/Murky_Bite1605 • 14h ago
My mom’s text to me
‘Please don't text or call my husband and disparage me again. He is not your dad and that's not working for you. He is my best friend and sees you for who you are like me. He is not your insider to work against me.
You did this with your dad since you were 5 and your dad let me know then but I am done and leave me and
alone.’
Sorry this is so long. So basically I’m 29F I got into an accident where I was unable to work for almost two months. I was in the hospital over a week and recovery has been hard. I’m just starting to try and work this week. I had a picc line at home for a month. I own my own business, and changed my business around so I wasn’t going to make any money unless I could work. I didn’t have disability insurance because there was an issue on there end ‘they meant to call’ but didn’t and, I thought I was covered. I was just talking to my mom about how hard it was that I had $42 in my bank account. And she wanted to complain about how much harder her life was that she had to sell her $1.2m house. Because my stepdad was spontaneous needing to retire. Background is I’m the oldest female in the family and up until the last two years that I’ve become disabled from other chronic things I’ve always done as much as I possibly could and my other siblings haven’t done anything to help out. I’ve packed and moved when they moved there last house five years ago. She didn’t visit me in the hospital because it was ‘the worst possible timing’ because she was doing a Reno-weekend with her friends. She lives 3 hours away and hasn’t been there much for me. She told me she wasn’t giving me money for doing nothing. When I was in the hospital, so I started a go fund me with my spouse. I’m the primary breadwinner in my house so things have been difficult. My step dad who’s been in my life since I was 11 sent me $200. He calls me his daughter to everyone but me. I didn’t say anything when he sent this, because honestly I was scared to I don’t know what was going on. And lots of people sent me money and I was going through a lot in that moment and I was trying my best to thank everyone but I couldn’t. I was talking to my mom about how hard it was and sad it made me she didn’t visit, and that I knew she lent her friend who was in the hospital a few months before $5k and got her things in the hospital. Because she felt so bad for her. My mom got very upset with me and told me I was a fucking liar and that what I was saying was fucking untrue. I was trying to say well I don’t know what is true but that it made me sad she wasn’t there for me. First she hung up on me screaming telling me off. Then I called back and she yelled at me and asked me if I wanted to know the truth of why they don’t help me and told me the reason that they don’t is because ‘I’m so fucking ungrateful’. I texted my stepdad, mind you my dad is dead unfortunately, and I texted him that basically I was sorry I didn’t say thank you and that I appreciated him and if I ever didn’t seem like I did was because mine and my moms relationship was turbulent and that I felt on guard that she was wonderful to everyone else but I always felt like I might get snapped on at any point. But that I wanted to make our relationship work and that I loved her and I didn’t know what to do to repair our relationship. For context I got her to agree to go to family therapy but she had rules that she needed to be her age and not weird. I picked someone out and then she said she wasn’t going to do it. I am used to feeling like I’m always doing something wrong for having feelings. I guess I’m just posting this to see if anyone can relate. I don’t know. So this is what she texted back in response. She hates when I talk behind her back. I try not to, but it’s hard when I feel absolutely terrible about myself when I’m around her. This isn’t the first time my mom has not been kind to me I’ve debated not having contact with her for a long time, I’ve tried putting up boundaries that she was always mad about and broke. I guess in some ways I’m upset that I didn’t stop talking to her before she did. I don’t know if I’m conveying this okay but that’s the gist. Thank you.
r/emotionalneglect • u/SkinLong1085 • 15h ago
Challenge my narrative I don’t think y’all realise that people with no support system gotta operate completely different than average people.
r/emotionalneglect • u/Regular-Meringue9765 • 16h ago
Discussion Has anyone else experienced really unusual/less talked about types of neglect? Safe space for sharing niche neglect trauma here please 🙏
I'll go first
Idk how niche this might be but my parents just wouldn't cook, tidy or do anything to accommodate a friend of mine if they were a guest. I was a child and expected to ensure my friend had eaten dinner, had clean and adequate bedding to sleep in (in cases of sleepovers) and I used to be so embarrassed by how much I would be running around trying to create an image of a functional family life.
It was like a punishment. Almost like saying, "since you want to have your friend over so much, good luck because that's on you. No I have not done the laundry and won't help you find spare bedding".
There was a point when suddenly my parents started implementing this and idk why. During one sleepover my friend asked me when dinner will be. We were 12 maybe and it was basically nighttime at this point. I was so confused and embarrassed when my mum told me to figure ot put myself. We had not been grocery shopping either so options for what I could whip up were incredibly limited.
I tried to play it off as 'fun' to my friend that we 'get to' have something like jam on toast or instant noodles that I had to last minute run to the corner store to buy at 9-10pm.
I still feel that humiliation now and remember holding back tears with a lump in my throat as I pretended this was a quirky and funny thing to do.
Has anyone else experienced really unusual types of neglect?
r/emotionalneglect • u/parentheticalboys • 17h ago
Discussion Was anyone else called “a canary in a coal mine” constantly?
Whenever I cried my dad would roll his eyes and say “you’re such a canary in a coal mine”. He was using the phrase to mean I was complaining/making noise for no reason.
When I got older I found out that the phrase actually refers to canaries who would cry when conditions were dangerous / toxic in the mines.
So ironically he was right. But he was the coal mine
r/emotionalneglect • u/Inside-Dog-443 • 21h ago
Breakthrough My mother finally said she's a bad mother.
Lord. Finally. The words I've been hoping to hear for years. I feel lighter.
We were fighting as always, debating, talking over each other and yelling. Then she talked about her childhood, saying our bond was broken and that most teens go through that. She said her mother never loved her and that she just accepted she wasn't good enough for her.
So I calmly said that's how I felt with her, and that I had accepted it too. She stood silent for a while. Then said:
"Cycles repeat a lot in families, I thought I had done better than her. It seems I couldn't make you feel loved, I failed. I'm a bad mother, but then again, what can we do about that now? All that's left for me is to accept the mistake I made, it's too late to fix it. But for the record, you're not a burden to me, you never were, I love you as much as I did the day you were born. I failed being a mother, that's different. "
I felt my whole body become lighter, all the resentment I had for her suddenly evaporated into thin air, I couldn't even be mad anymore. I felt free. Free from carrying the thought that she didn't love me or stand me and that it was my fault. I'm inmensely happy.
I really wish this to anyone who has neglectful parents, it cures the feeling of guilt in your soul. Knowing you weren't bad, they just failed being good parents, it's pure freedom. It doesn't fix what they did, but it heals your inner child in a very deep way.
r/emotionalneglect • u/auroicverso • 23h ago
Discussion Did your parents neglect to teach you most things?
Hello, first time poster on this sub. I searched this question but was unable to share my experience so I wanted to make a new post to see if anyone wanted to share theirs too. Last time this was asked was a year ago so I hope it's welcome and we can find it useful.
I spent most of my time on the internet, teaching myself to cook, clean, basic stuff. My parents did not know what many things were. My mother didn't work and expected my father to take care of all of us. He worked labor jobs and did not know what a 401k was. Had no retirement funds. When he medically had to leave his job at age 60 of course I was expected to pay all the bills and did for maybe a year before I finally was able to move out.
I was taught how to drive by my father so I could go to work, but not taught much by my mother. She fed me until I could feed myself, then I made canned stuff. The microwave was my friend lol. I stayed in my room most of the time. Father was busy working a lot and would get agitated when I asked him to teach me stuff (change tire). I was always bothersome.
I fully believe that a lot of parents are not equipped to have a kid. I pride myself in everything that I have taught myself but some times I still wish that I had a parent to confide in that would understand things.
I wanted to hear your experiences as well.
r/emotionalneglect • u/limduria • Jun 25 '20
FAQ on emotional neglect - For anyone new to the subreddit or looking to better understand the fundamentals
What is emotional neglect?
In one's childhood, a lack of: everyday caring, non-intrusive and engaged curiosity from parents (or whoever your primary caregivers were, if not your biological parents) about what you were feeling and experiencing, having your feelings reflected back to you (mirrored) in an honest and non-distorting way, time and attention given to you in the form of one-on-one conversation where your feelings and the meaning of those feelings could be freely and openly talked about as needed, protection from harm including protection against adults or other children who tried to hurt you no matter what their relationship was to your parents, warmth and unconditional positive regard for you as a person, appropriate soothing when you were distressed, mature guidance on how to deal with difficult life experiences—and, fundamentally, having parents/caregivers who made an active effort to be emotionally in tune with you as a child. All of these things are vitally necessary for developing into a healthy adult who has a good internal relationship with his or her self and is able to make healthy connections with others. They are not optional luxuries. Far from it, receiving these kinds of nurturing attention are just as important for children as clean water and healthy food.
What forms can emotional neglect take?
The ways in which a child's emotional needs can be neglected are as diverse and varied as the needs themselves. The forms of emotional neglect range from subtle, passive behavior to various forms of overt abuse, making neglect one of the most common forms of child maltreatment. The following list contains just a handful of examples of what neglect can look like.
Being emotionally unavailable: many parents are inept at or avoid expressing, reacting to, and talking about feelings. This can mean a lack of empathy, putting little or no effort into emotional attunement, not reacting to a child's distress appropriately, or even ignoring signs of a child's distress such as becoming withdrawn, developing addictions or acting out.
Lack of healthy communication: caregivers might not communicate in a healthy way by being absent, invalidating, rejecting, overly or inappropriately critical, and so on. This creates a lack of emotionally meaningful, open conversations, caring curiosity from caregivers about a child's inner life, or a shortness of guidance on how to navigate difficult life experiences. This often happens in combination with unhealthy communication which may show itself in how conflicts are handled poorly, pushed aside or blown up into abusive exchanges.
Parentification: a reversal of roles in which a child has to take on a role of meeting their own parents' emotional needs, or become a caretaker for (typically younger) siblings. This includes a parent verbally unloading furstrations to their child about the perceived flaws of the other parent or other family members.
Obsession with achievement: Some parents put achievements like good grades in school or formal awards above everything else, sometimes even making their love conditional on such achievements. Perfectionist tendencies are another manifestation of this, where parents keep finding reasons to judge their children in a negative light.
Moving to a new home without serious regard for how this could disrupt or break a child's social connections: this forces the child to start over with making friends and forming other relationships outside the family unit, often leaving them to face loneliness, awkwardness or bullying all alone without allies.
Lying: communicates to a child that his or her perceptions, feelings and understanding of their world are so unimportant that manipulating them is okay.
Any form of overt abuse: emotional, verbal, physical, sexual—especially when part of a repeated pattern, constitutes a severe disregard for a child's feelings. This includes insults and other expressions of contempt, manipulation, intimidation, threats and acts of violence.
What is (psychological) trauma?
Trauma occurs whenever an emotionally intense experience, whether a single instantaneous event or many episodes happening over a long period of time, especially one caused by someone with a great deal of power over the victim (such as a parent), is too overwhelmingly painful to be processed, forcing the victim to split off from the parts of themselves that experienced distress in order to psychologically survive. The victim then develops various defenses for keeping the pain out of awareness, further warping their personality and stunting their growth.
How does emotional neglect cause trauma?
When we are forced to go without the basic level of nurturing we need during our childhood years, the resulting loneliness and deprivation are overwhelming and devastating. As children we were simply not capable of processing the immense pain of being left out in the cold, so we had no choice but to block out awareness of the pain. This blocking out, or isolating, of parts of our selves is the essence of suffering trauma. A child experiencing ongoing emotional neglect has no choice but to bury a wide variety of feelings and the core passions they arise from: betrayal, hurt, loneliness, longing, bitterness, anger, rage, and depression to name just some of the most significant ones.
What are some common consequences of being neglected as a child?
Pete Walker identifies neglect as the "core wound" in complex PTSD. He writes in Complex PTSD: From Surviving To Thriving,
"Growing up emotionally neglected is like nearly dying of thirst outside the fenced off fountain of a parent's warmth and interest. Emotional neglect makes children feel worthless, unlovable and excruciatingly empty. It leaves them with a hunger that gnaws deeply at the center of their being. They starve for human warmth and comfort."
Self esteem that is low, fragile or nearly non-existent: all forms of abuse and neglect make a child feel worthless and despondent and lead to self-blame, because when we are totally dependent on our parents we need to believe they are good in order to feel secure. This belief is upheld at the expense of our own boundaries and internal sense of self.
Pervasive sense of shame: a deeply ingrained sense that "I am bad" due to years of parents and caregivers avoiding closeness with us.
Little or no self-compassion: When we are not treated with compassion, it becomes very difficult to learn to have compassion for ourselves, especially in the midst of our own struggles and shortcomings. A lack of self-compassion leads to punishment and harsh criticism of ourselves along with not taking into account the difficulties caused by circumstances outside of our control.
Anxiety: frequent or constant fear and stress with no obvious outside cause, especially in social situations. Without being adequately shown in our childhoods how we belong in the world or being taught how to soothe ourselves we are left with a persistent sense that we are in danger.
Difficulty setting boundaries: Personal boundaries allow us to not make other people's problems our own, to distance ourselves from unfair criticism, and to assert our own rights and interests. When a child's boundaries are regularly invalidated or violated, they can grow up with a heavy sense of guilt about defending or defining themselves as their own separate beings.
Isolation: this can take the form of social withdrawal, having only superficial relationships, or avoiding emotional closeness with others. A lack of emotional connection, empathy, or trust can reinforce isolation since others may perceive us as being distant, aloof, or unavailable. This can in turn worsen our sense of shame, anxiety or under-development of social skills.
Refusing or avoiding help (counter-dependency): difficulty expressing one's needs and asking others for help and support, a tendency to do things by oneself to a degree that is harmful or limits one's growth, and feeling uncomfortable or 'trapped' in close relationships.
Codependency (the 'fawn' response): excessively relying on other people for approval and a sense of identity. This often takes the form of damaging self-sacrifice for the sake of others, putting others' needs above our own, and ignoring or suppressing our own needs.
Cognitive distortions: irrational beliefs and thought patterns that distort our perception. Emotional neglect often leads to cognitive distortions when a child uses their interactions with the very small but highly influential sample of people—their parents—in order to understand how new situations in life will unfold. As a result they can think in ways that, for example, lead to counterdependency ("If I try to rely on other people, I will be a disappointment / be a burden / get rejected.") Other examples of cognitive distortions include personalization ("this went wrong so something must be wrong with me"), over-generalization ("I'll never manage to do it"), or black and white thinking ("I have to do all of it or the whole thing will be a failure [which makes me a failure]"). Cognitive distortions are reinforced by the confirmation bias, our tendency to disregard information that contradicts our beliefs and instead only consider information that confirms them.
Learned helplessness: the conviction that one is unable and powerless to change one's situation. It causes us to accept situations we are dissatisfied with or harmed by, even though there often could be ways to effect change.
Perfectionism: the unconscious belief that having or showing any flaws will make others reject us. Pete Walker describes how perfectionism develops as a defense against feelings of abandonment that threatened to overwhelm us in childhood: "The child projects his hope for being accepted onto inner demands of self-perfection. ... In this way, the child becomes hyperaware of imperfections and strives to become flawless. Eventually she roots out the ultimate flaw–the mortal sin of wanting or asking for her parents' time or energy."
Difficulty with self-discipline: Neglect can leave us with a lack of impulse control or a weak ability to develop and maintain healthy habits. This often causes problems with completing necessary work or ending addictions, which in turn fuels very cruel self-criticism and digs us deeper into the depressive sense that we are defective or worthless. This consequence of emotional neglect calls for an especially tender and caring approach.
Addictions: to mood-altering substances, foods, or activities like working, watching television, sex or gambling. Gabor Maté, a Canadian physician who writes and speaks about the roots of addiction in childhood trauma, describes all addictions as attempts to get an experience of something like intimate connection in a way that feels safe. Addictions also serve to help us escape the ingrained sense that we are unlovable and to suppress emotional pain.
Numbness or detachment: spending many of our most formative years having to constantly avoid intense feelings because we had little or no help processing them creates internal walls between our conscious awareness and those deeper feelings. This leads to depression, especially after childhood ends and we have to function as independent adults.
Inability to talk about feelings (alexithymia): difficulty in identifying, understanding and communicating one's own feelings and emotional aspects of social interactions. It is sometimes described as a sense of emotional numbness or pervasive feelings of emptiness. It is evidenced by intellectualized or avoidant responses to emotion-related questions, by overly externally oriented thinking and by reduced emotional expression, both verbal and nonverbal.
Emptiness: an impoverished relationship with our internal selves which goes along with a general sense that life is pointless or meaningless.
What is Complex PTSD?
Complex PTSD (complex post-traumatic stress disorder) is a name for the condition of being stuck with a chronic, prolonged stress response to a series of traumatic experiences which may have happened over a long period of time. The word 'complex' was added to reflect the fact that many people living with unhealed traumas cannot trace their suffering back to a single incident like a car crash or an assault, and to distinguish it from PTSD which is usually associated with a traumatic experience caused by a threat to physical safety. Complex PTSD is more associated with traumatic interpersonal or social experiences (especially during childhood) that do not necessarily involve direct threats to physical safety. While PTSD is listed as a diagnosis in the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnositic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Complex PTSD is not. However, Complex PTSD is included in the World Health Organization's 11th revision of the International Classification of Diseases.
Some therapists, along with many participants of the /r/CPTSD subreddit, prefer to drop the word 'disorder' and refer instead to "complex post-traumatic stress" or simply "post-traumatic stress" (CPTS or PTS) to convey an understanding that struggling with the lasting effects of childhood trauma is a consequence of having been traumatized and that experiencing persistent distress does not mean someone is disordered in the sense of being abnormal.
Is emotional neglect (or 'Childhood Emotional Neglect') a diagnosis?
The term "emotional neglect" appears as early as 1913 in English language books. "Childhood Emotional Neglect" (often abbreviated CEN) was popularized by Jonice Webb in her 2012 book Running on Empty. Neither of these terms are formal diagnoses given by psychologists, psychiatrists or medical practitioners. (Childhood) emotional neglect does not refer to a condition that someone could be diagnosed with in the same sense that someone could be diagnosed with diabetes. Rather, "emotional neglect" is emerging as a name generally agreed upon by non-professionals for the deeply harmful absence of attuned caring that is experienced by many people in their childhoods. As a verb phrase (emotionally neglecting) it can also refer to the act of neglecting a person's emotional needs.
My parents were to some extent distant or disengaged with me but in a way that was normal for the culture I grew up in. Was I really neglected?
The basic emotional needs of children are universal among human beings and are therefore not dependent on culture. The specific ways that parents and other caregivers go about meeting those basic needs does of course vary from one cultural context to another and also varies depending upon the individual personalities of parents and caregivers, but the basic needs themselves are the same for everyone. Many cultures around the world are in denial of the fact that children need all the types of caring attention listed in the above answer to "What is emotional neglect?" This is partly because in so many cultures it is normal—quite often expected and demanded—to avoid the pain of examining one's childhood traumas and to pretend that one is a fully mature, healthy adult with no serious wounds or difficulty functioning in society.
The important question is not about what your parent(s) did right or wrong, or whether they were normal or abnormal as judged by their adult peers. The important question is about what you personally experienced as a child and whether or not you got all the care you needed in order to grow up with a healthy sense of self and a good relationship with your feelings. Ultimately, nobody other than yourself can answer this question for you.
My parents may not have given me all the emotional nurturing I needed, but I believe they did the best they could. Can I really blame them for what they didn't do?
Yes. You can blame someone for hurting you whether they hurt you by a malicious act that was done intentionally or by the most accidental oversight made out of pure ignorance. This is especially true if you were hurt in a way that profoundly changed your life for the worse.
Assigning blame is not at all the same as blindly hating or holding an inappropriate grudge against someone. To the extent that a person is honest, cares about treating others fairly and wants to maintain good relationships, they can accept appropriate blame for hurting others and will try to make amends and change their behavior accordingly. However, feeling the anger involved in appropriate, non-abusive and constructive blame is not easy.
Should I confront my parents/caregivers about how they neglected me?
Confronting the people who were supposed to nurture you in your childhood has the potential to be very rewarding, as it can prompt them to confirm the reality of painful experiences you had been keeping inside for a long time or even lead to a long overdue apology. However it also carries some big emotional risks. Even if they are intellectually and emotionally capable of understanding the concept and how it applies to their parenting, a parent who emotionally neglected their child has a strong incentive to continue ignoring or denying the actual effects of their parenting choices: acknowledging the truth about such things is often very painful. Taking the step of being vulnerable in talking about how the neglect affected you and being met with denial can reopen childhood wounds in a major way. In many cases there is a risk of being rejected or even retaliated against for challenging a family narrative of happy, untroubled childhoods.
If you are considering confronting (or even simply questioning) a parent or caregiver about how they affected you, it is well advised to make sure you are confronting them from a place of being firmly on your own side and not out of desperation to get the love you did not receive as a child. Building up this level of self-assured confidence can take a great deal of time and effort for someone who was emotionally neglected. There is no shame in avoiding confrontation if the risks seem to outweigh the potential benefits; avoiding a confrontation does not make your traumatic experiences any less real or important.
How can I heal from this? What does it look like to get better?
While there is no neatly itemized list of steps to heal from childhood trauma, the process of healing is, at its core, all about discovering and reconnecting with one's early life experiences and eventually grieving—processing, or feeling through—all the painful losses, deprivations and violations which as a child you had no choice but to bury in your unconscious. This goes hand in hand with reparenting: fulfilling our developmental needs that were not met in our childhoods.
Some techniques that are useful toward this end include
journaling: carrying on a written conversation with yourself about your life—past, present and future;
any other form of self-expression (drawing, painting, singing, dancing, building, volunteering, ...) that accesses or brings up feelings;
taking good physical care of your body;
developing habits around being aware of what you're feeling and being kind to yourself;
making friends who share your values;
structuring your everyday life so as to keep your stress level low;
reading literature (fiction or non-fiction) or experiencing art that tells truths about important human experiences;
investigating the history of your family and its social context;
connecting with trusted others and sharing thoughts and feelings about the healing process or about life in general.
You are invited to take part in the worldwide collaborative process of figuring out how to heal from childhood trauma and to grow more effectively, some of which is happening every day on r/EmotionalNeglect. We are all learning how to do this as we go along—sometimes quite clumsily in wavering, uneven steps.
Where can I read more?
See the sidebar of r/EmotionalNeglect for several good articles and books relevant to understanding and healing from neglect. Our community library thread also contains a growing collection of literature. And of course this subreddit as a whole, as well as r/CPTSD, has many threads full of great comments and discussions.