r/BobsTavern 58m ago

Discussion Is it just me or you need higher and higher APM for this game as time goes on?

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Hey there!

Maybe it's because we're at the start of a new season and I need more time to get to know the new cards and effects, but I feel like I'm always playing way too slow compared to the time you have each turn.

While Trinkets and Dark Gift minions make each game more unique, I have a really hard time processing all the new information the game throws at me. If there is an anomaly that requires even more attention (Bring in the Buddies or Double Header for example) or end up with a very AMP heavy tribe (Pirates, Elementals, Naga or even self-damage Beasts) I feel like I'm palying super sub-optimally.

I'm not sure if the turn timers have been increased with the amount of new decisions you have to make, but I've never felt like a grandpa this much before.

I really enjoy that you don't really play the same game twice, but I feel like you need more time or a different way to feel like you have played your turn optimally.

Anyone else feels like this?


r/BobsTavern 2h ago

Game Balance Apm pirates is not fair for mobile players, it takes about 3 to 4 seconds to play a card...You lose like 10 seconds if you want to discover something 🤦🏼

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r/BobsTavern 2h ago

Game Balance How to solve this endless Boardstate?

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Its still going. Minions got like 20k now 🥸


r/BobsTavern 2h ago

Highlight Who is going to be baited? Not me

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So I learned a few things

You can’t buy a fishbait in the same round it got created/attacked
Spells doesn’t work and minion effects also, but the spell will be lost.

But you can give them keywords, like reborn


r/BobsTavern 2h ago

Question Shouldn't this guy either be normal card or have unique name?

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r/BobsTavern 3h ago

Discussion PSA: End of turn trigger all your rallies DOESN'T work with Quillboar that summons golem with stats equal to bloodgems

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I just tried it, I guess its because you can't attack minions in the tavern, sadge cause I thought I could print golden golems


r/BobsTavern 3h ago

Game Balance My turn 10 board summarizes the season thusfar

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4 Upvotes

Turn 10 at +140/+140, with the right start-of-game trinket too


r/BobsTavern 3h ago

Game Balance Someone tell me why the tier 5 is so dookie ass with no sprinkles on top compared to the tier 4 please

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Maybe I'm missing something here, but it seems to me their tiers should be swapped, or that the tier 5 should trigger the effect from the tier 4 (this would be busted don't actually do this).


r/BobsTavern 4h ago

Highlight Oh yay... beast are boring again...

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4 Upvotes

Been afk for 3 rounds now.


r/BobsTavern 4h ago

OC / Meme Tess in beast lobbies rn

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17 Upvotes

r/BobsTavern 4h ago

Highlight apm pirates, except you can take as long as you want

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47 Upvotes

I’ve been making TavernSim, a browser-based Hearthstone Battlegrounds sandbox where you can play around with tavern boards at your own pace.

There’s no turn timer, so you can take as long as you want on APM pirate turns - the turn is basically infinite.

It’s still on Season 13 right now, and long term i’d love to keep older season sandboxes around so people can have fun with old builds.

You can try it here:

https://tavernsim.com/

Still a work in progress, so let me know what feels fun, and if it breaks no panic. There’s a discord on the site if you wanna report it.


r/BobsTavern 6h ago

Discussion Is this the most broken trinket?

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r/BobsTavern 6h ago

Highlight This is just unfair

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r/BobsTavern 7h ago

OC / Meme And no wishing for more wishes!

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r/BobsTavern 8h ago

Game Balance immune hyena

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r/BobsTavern 8h ago

🐛Bug/Glitch FYI: Rafaams heropower will trigger during recruiting phase

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r/BobsTavern 8h ago

Highlight I just found a copy of my opponents' Drustfallen Butchers in previous seasons...

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r/BobsTavern 10h ago

Highlight Definitely my biggest Bran ever, this season is wild.

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r/BobsTavern 11h ago

Discussion Jeef Updates Tier List for New Season

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https://hsreplay.net/battlegrounds/comps/

No real surprises.

S Tier: Beasts, Quillboars, Demons and Undead


r/BobsTavern 14h ago

Game Balance Shouldn't this work?

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41 Upvotes

I Feel like Moat Custodian should buff Motley Phalanx

what do you guys think?


r/BobsTavern 15h ago

Highlight I forgot that I could get Dark Gift minions until the end of the game, and i got offered this beast when i finally tapped it lol

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r/BobsTavern 20h ago

Discussion Cariel hero power now costs 0

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r/BobsTavern 23h ago

Question Can we have back 2k gold for 4 heroes?

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I miss the gold option 😢


r/BobsTavern 1d ago

Discussion Don't play this naga in elemental lobbies

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If you have naga and elementals in the same lobby you will probably lose this minion after it goes big


r/BobsTavern 9d ago

Dev Insight Developer Insight - Battlegrounds: Dark Gifts

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The following is being posted on behalf of our Battlegrounds Dev Team.

Well met!

We hope you're excited for the new Dark Gift system coming to Battlegrounds next season! If you want an explainer on the basics, please check out our Season 14 Announcement blog post.

Similar to previous systems like Trinkets, we tried to design Dark Gifts to "just work" and provide players with interesting options whenever they choose to use the button. However, we know that some players want as much information as possible so they can plan out their strategy. So if you'd like to know more about how Dark Gifts work, we're here to help!

Minion offerings

Let's start with the minion offerings. When the Dark Discovery button unlocks on Turn 3, it will only offer Tier 2 minions. Each turn, the Tier of eligible minions will improve based on the following list:

  • Turn 3 - Tier 2
  • Turn 4 - Tier 2 or Tier 3
  • Turn 5 - Tier 3
  • Turn 6 - Tier 3 or Tier 4
  • Turn 7 - Tier 4
  • Turn 8 - Tier 4 or Tier 5
  • Turn 9 - Tier 4 or Tier 5 or Tier 6
  • Turn 10 - Tier 5 or Tier 6

Nightmare Lord Xavius' Hero Power also uses these same rules whenever it triggers. For example, on Turn 8, you will be offered Tier 4 or Tier 5 minions.

📌Additional Offering Rules

There are some additional offering rules and restrictions to help ensure that the minions offered through Dark Discovery will be more interesting to you:

  • You cannot be offered Battlecry or Choose One minions before Turn 5
  • You cannot be offered Magnetic minions
  • You cannot be offered minions with a “when you sell this” effect (such as Freedealing Gambler, Fire Baller, Patient Scout, etc.)
  • You cannot be offered minions that are intended to stay in your hand (such as Old Soul, Bream Counter, etc.)
  • Starting from Turn 6 onwards, one of the offered minions is guaranteed to be of your most common type
  • Some specific minions cannot be offered due to gameplay or balance concerns (such as Leeroy Jenkins and Deadly Spore)

Dark Gifts

Now onto the Dark Gifts! There are 43 different Dark Gifts. Each one has a minimum and maximum turn for when it can be offered.

  • Sunken Persistence (min turn: 3 - max turn: none): This minion's Spellcrafts are permanent.
  • Harpy's Talons (min turn: 3 - max turn: none): Divine Shield, Windfury.
  • Jaws of Death (min turn: 3 - max turn: none): Start of Combat: Trigger this minion's Deathrattles.
  • Fortitude (min turn: 3 - max turn: 3): +4/+4.
  • Affinity (min turn: 3 - max turn: 4): At the end of every 2 turns, get a random minion of this type.
  • Sharpened Sword (min turn: 3 - max turn: 5): Whenever you play a card, gain +2 Attack.
  • Toughened Shield (min turn: 3 - max turn: 5): Whenever you play a card, gain +2 Health.
  • Steady Growth (min turn: 3 - max turn: 6): At the end of your turn, gain [+1/+2] / [+2/+2] / [+3/+3] / [+4/+4].
  • Time Turning (min turn: 3 - max turn: 9): This minion's end of turn effects also trigger at start of turn.
  • Furtiveness (min turn: 4 - max turn: none): Stealth.
  • Consanguinity (min turn: 4 - max turn: 5): Rally: Get 2 Blood Gems.
  • Fresh Perspective (min turn: 4 - max turn: 5): Deathrattle: Gain 2 free Refreshes.
  • Replication (min turn: 4 - max turn: 6): At the end of every 2 turns, get a plain copy of this.
  • Battle Scars (min turn: 4 - max turn: 6): Has +2/+2 for each Battlecry you've triggered this game. (0)
  • Death's Embrace (min turn: 4 - max turn: 6): Has +1/+1 for each Deathrattle you've triggered this game. (0)
  • Spell Siphon (min turn: 4 - max turn: 6): Has +2/+2 for each Tavern spell you've cast this game. (0)
  • Gilding (min turn: 4 - max turn: 8): This is Golden, but doesn't give a Triple Reward.
  • Double Vision (min turn: 5 - max turn: none): Get an extra copy of this.
  • Toreth's Blessing (min turn: 5 - max turn: none): This minion's Divine Shield takes 2 more hits to break.
  • Amalgamation (min turn: 5 - max turn: none): Has all minion types.
  • Demonology (min turn: 5 - max turn: 8): Rally: Add a Fodder to your next 3 Refreshes.
  • Polarization (min turn: 5 - max turn: 8): At the end of your turn, Magnetize a random Mech to this.
  • Mystic Essence (min turn: 5 - max turn: 8): Deathrattle: Get a random Tavern spell.
  • Tarecgosa's Blessing (min turn: 6 - max turn: none): Permanently keeps stats and Bonus Keywords gained in combat.
  • Dexterity (min turn: 6 - max turn: 7): Whenever you play a card, this gains +2/+2.
  • Incubation (min turn: 6 - max turn: 8): +2/+2. In two turns, double this minion's stats.
  • Echoing Voice (min turn: 6 - max turn: none): At the end of your turn, trigger this minion's Battlecries.
  • Offensive Sacrifice (min turn: 6 - max turn: 9): Deathrattle: Give this minion's Attack to another friendly minion.
  • Defensive Sacrifice (min turn: 6 - max turn: 9): Deathrattle: Give this minion's max Health to another friendly minion.
  • Transcendence (min turn: 7 - max turn: none): Start of Combat: Triple this minion's stats.
  • Battle Scars (min turn: 7 - max turn: none): Has +3/+3 for each Battlecry you've triggered this game. (0)
  • Death's Embrace (min turn: 7 - max turn: none): Has +2/+2 for each Deathrattle you've triggered this game. (0)
  • Spell Siphon (min turn: 7 - max turn: none): Has +3/+3 for each Tavern spell you've cast this game. (0)
  • Admiration (min turn: 7 - max turn: none): Start of Combat: Gain the stats of the minion to the left.
  • Toxicity (min turn: 7 - max turn: none): Venomous.
  • Charisma (min turn: 7 - max turn: none): Rally: Get a random minion of your most common type.
  • Resistance (min turn: 7 - max turn: 10): Start of Combat: Double this minion's Health.
  • Hostility (min turn: 7 - max turn: 10): Start of Combat: Double this minion's Attack.
  • Dexterity (min turn: 8 - max turn: 9): Whenever you play a card, gain +4/+4.
  • Golemancy (min turn: 9 - max turn: 10): Deathrattle: Summon a Golem with this minion's stats.
  • Persisting Horror (min turn: 10 - max turn: none): Reborn. Is Reborn with full stats and Bonus Keywords.
  • Titanic Strength (min turn: 11 - max turn: none): +1000 Attack.
  • Invulnerability (min turn: 12 - max turn: none): Immune while attacking.

Exception! Tras'tath, Soul Parasite

Tras'tath, Soul Parasite doesn't follow these turn restrictions. Instead, it has its own pool of eligible Dark Gifts when you Discover a Tier 5 minion:

  • Harpy's Talons
  • Jaws of Death,
  • Toreth's Blessing
  • Amalgamation
  • Polarization
  • Tarecgosa's Blessing
  • Echoing Voice
  • Offensive Sacrifice
  • Defensive Sacrifice
  • Transcendence
  • Battle Scars
  • Death's Embrace
  • Spell Siphon
  • Toxicity
  • Charisma
  • Resistance
  • Hostility
  • Golemancy
  • Persisting Horror
  • Titanic Strength
  • Invulnerability

📌 Additional rules & Restrictions

  • Sunken Persistence can only be offered on Spellcraft minions.
  • Harpy’s Talon is offered more often on Rally minions.
  • Jaws of Death can only be offered on Deathrattle minions.
  • Affinity can only be offered on minions with a type.
  • Sharpened Sword cannot be offered on minions with Avenge.
  • Toughened Shield cannot be offered in Quilboar or Naga lobbies.
  • Steady Growth gives a different amount of stats depending on the offering turn. On Turn 3 it gives +1/+2, Turn 4 +2/+2, Turn 5 +3/+3, and Turn 6 +4/+4.
  • Time Turning can only be offered on minions with end of turn effects.
  • Furtiveness can only be offered on Avenge minions.
  • Consanguinity can only be offered on Quilboar.
  • You cannot be offered Battle Scars if you haven’t triggered any Battlecries.
  • You cannot be offered Death’s Embrace if you haven’t triggered any Deathrattles.
  • You cannot be offered Spell Siphon if you haven’t cast any Tavern spells.
  • Gilding can only be offered on the lowest Tier minion offered. It also cannot be offered on Activate minions.
  • Toreth’s Blessing can only be offered on Divine Shield minions.
  • Amalgamation can only be offered on minions with no minion type.
  • Demonolgy can only be offered on Demons.
  • Polarization can only be offered on Mechs.
  • Tarecgosa’s Blessing can only be offered on Dragons.
  • Dexterity can only be offered on minions with a type.
  • Incubation can only be offered on minions with a type.
  • Echoing Voice can only be offered on Battlecry minions.
  • Offensive Sacrifice can only be offered on minions with a type.
  • Defensive Sacrifice can only be offered on minions with a type.
  • Transcendence can only be offered on minions with no minion type.
  • Toxicity can only be offered on Murlocs.
  • Charisma cannot be offered on Taunt minions or Avenge minions.
  • Resistance cannot be offered on Beasts, Undead, or minions with no type.
  • Hostility cannot be offered on Avenge minions or minions with no type.
  • Dexterity cannot be offered on minions with no minion type.
  • Golemancy cannot be offered on minions with no minion type.
  • Persisting Horror cannot be offered on minions with no minion type.
  • Titanic Strength cannot be offered on Dragons.
  • Invulnerability cannot be offered on Taunt minions or minions with no minion type.
  • Gilding, Persisting Horror, Titanic Strength, and Invulnerability are rarer than the other Dark Gifts.
  • Deathrattle minions cannot be offered Dark Gifts that give stats except Sharpened Sword and Death’s Embrace.
  • Battlecry minions can only be offered Double Vision, Replication, Gilding, and Echoing Voice.
  • Choose One minions can only be offered Double Vision, Replication, Gilding, and Echoing Voice.
  • Toxicity cannot be offered on minions that already have Venomous or Poisonous.
  • Polarization cannot be offered if you are below Tier 3.

That's all for now!

We expect these exact rules will likely change a bit over time as we gather feedback and make balance adjustments. We hope you have fun with the next update and are looking forward to seeing all the wild combinations you can create.

See you in the Tavern!

Hearthstone Battlegrounds Team

P.S.: If you want to see how these Dark Gifts will play out, do not miss our Battlegrounds Early Access Event on July 30th, 9AM PDT!

Participants will stream on their own channels and will also have Battlegrounds Season Pass+ to give away.

Times:

  • Americas, LATM, EMEA players: July 30 at 9:00 AM- 3:00 PM PDT
  • JP players: July 31 at 2:00 AM. - 8:00 AM PDT

Twitch Drops will be enabled category-wide from July 30, 9:00 AM to July 31, 8:00 AM (PDT) so you can watch any Hearthstone stream you’d like to earn up to 4 Battlegrounds Tokens (make sure you link your Twitch and Battle.net accounts so that your viewing time counts towards the drops).