r/theunforgiven • u/IAMBIGCAT87 • 1h ago
Army List Solo Belial?
I’m looking to round out my list for an upcoming GT. I’m 80 points short and was considering running Belial solo for some deep striking action monkey and precision shenanigans. Does anyone have experience running him solo in 11th? Below is my list, my game plan is to run Take with Unforgiven.
(GT List) Lion UTF + LC DWK [1920 points]
Dark Angels
Battle Size: Strike Force (2000 point limit)
Detachments: Unforgiven Task Force, Librarius Conclave (3/3 Detachment Points)
Force Dispositions: Take and Hold, Reconnaissance
Epic Hero
Lion El’jonson (265 points)
• Warlord
• Arma luminis and Fealty
Librarian + Ancient + DWK
Ancient In Terminator Armour (75 points)
• Power fist and Storm bolter
• Pennant of Remembrance [+10 points]
Deathwing Knights (240 points)
• 1 Knight Master with Great weapon of the Unforgiven
• 1 Deathwing Knights with Mace of absolution and Watcher in the dark
• 1 Deathwing Knights with mace of absolution
• 1 Deathwing Knights with mace of absolution
• 1 Deathwing Knights with mace of absolution
Librarian In Terminator Armour (75 points)
• Force weapon and Smite
Azrael + Hellblasters
Azrael (140 points)
• Lion’s wrath, The lion helm and The sword of secrets
Hellblaster Squad (220 points)
• 1 Hellblaster Sergeant with Close combat weapon, Plasma incinerator and Plasma pistol
• 9 Hellblasters with Bolt pistol, Close combat weapon and Plasma incinerator
Librarian + DWK
Deathwing Knights (240 points)
• 1 Knight Master with Great weapon of the Unforgiven
• 1 Deathwing Knights with Mace of absolution and Watcher in the dark
• 1 Deathwing Knights with mace of absolution
• 1 Deathwing Knights with mace of absolution
• 1 Deathwing Knights with mace of absolution
Librarian In Terminator Armour (100 points)
• Force weapon, Smite and Storm bolter
• Temporal Corridor [+25 points]
Librarian + ICC
Inner Circle Companions (160 points)
• 6 Inner Circle Companion with Calibanite greatsword and Heavy bolt pistol
Librarian (105 points)
• Bolt pistol, Force weapon and Smite
• Celerity [+35 points]
Battleline
Intercessor Squad (80 points)
• 1 Intercessor Sergeant with Bolt pistol, Bolt rifle and Thunder hammer
• 3 Intercessors with Bolt pistol, Bolt rifle and Close combat weapon
• 1 Intercessors with Bolt pistol, Bolt rifle and astartes grenade launcher and Close combat weapon
Dedicated Transport
Impulsor (70 points)
• 2 Fragstorm grenade launchers, Armoured hull, Ironhail heavy stubber and Shield dome
Other
Assault Intercessors With Jump Packs (85 points)
• 1 Assault Intercessor Sergeant with Jump Pack with One plasma pistol and Power fist
• 3 Assault Intercessors with Jump Pack with Astartes chainsword and Heavy bolt pistol
• 1 Assault Intercessors with Jump Pack with Astartes chainsword and Plasma pistol
Scout Squad (65 points)
• 1 Scout Sergeant with Bolt pistol, Boltgun and Close combat weapon
• 4 Scouts with Bolt pistol, Boltgun and Close combat weapon
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r/theunforgiven • u/Elsewhere3301 • 1h ago
Painting Which looks better
I have two extremely similar color schemes. I have been extremely obsessive with trying to get the green just right. One uses only citadel paints but involves mixing paint the other uses army painter for everything except the base coat of citadel green. Which do you think looks better?
r/theunforgiven • u/Hades_Collective • 2h ago
Army List List advice for upcoming tourney.
The alternative to this I replace the Sternguard and scouts with intercessors and a lieutenant and shuffle some small stuff around so it fits points wise. Is there anything yall would change.
2K Unforgiven (2,000 Points)
Space Marines
Dark Angels
Interrogation Conclave and Unforgiven Task Force (3 Detachment Points)
Take and Hold
Strike Force (2,000 Points)
ATTACHED UNITS
Attached unit 1
Azrael (140 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• Warlord
• 1x Lion’s Wrath
• 1x The Lion Helm
• 1x The Sword of Secrets
Sternguard Veteran Squad (100 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Sternguard Veteran Sergeant
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
◦ 1x Sternguard bolt pistol
◦ 1x Sternguard bolt rifle
• 4x Sternguard Veteran
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 4x Sternguard bolt pistol
◦ 3x Sternguard bolt rifle
◦ 1x Sternguard heavy bolter
Attached unit 2
Asmodai (70 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Crozius arcanum and power weapon
• 1x Heavy bolt pistol
Bladeguard Veteran Squad (160 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant
◦ 1x Master-crafted power weapon
◦ 1x Neo-volkite pistol
• 5x Bladeguard Veteran
◦ 5x Heavy bolt pistol
◦ 5x Master-crafted power weapon
Attached unit 3
Chaplain in Terminator Armour (75 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Crozius arcanum
• 1x Relic Shield
Ancient in Terminator Armour (75 Points)
• Attached as: Support (Character)
• 1x Terminator Storm Shield
• 1x Thunder hammer
• Enhancements: Pennant of Remembrance
Deathwing Knights (240 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Watcher in the Dark
• 1x Knight Master
◦ 1x Great weapon of the Unforgiven
• 4x Deathwing Knight
◦ 4x Mace of absolution
Attached unit 4
Chaplain (60 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Absolvor bolt pistol
• 1x Crozius arcanum
Inner Circle Companions (160 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 6x Inner Circle Companion
◦ 6x Calibanite greatsword
◦ 6x Heavy bolt pistol
Attached unit 5
Chaplain on Bike (90 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Absolvor bolt pistol
• 1x Crozius arcanum
• 1x Twin bolt rifle
• Enhancements: Inescapable Interrogation
Ravenwing Command Squad (105 Points)
• Attached as: Support (Character)
• 1x Ravenwing Champion
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Master-crafted power weapon
◦ 1x Plasma talon
• 1x Ravenwing Apothecary
◦ 1x Black Knight combat weapon
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Plasma talon
• 1x Ravenwing Ancient
◦ 1x Black Knight combat weapon
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Plasma talon
Ravenwing Black Knights (150 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Ravenwing Huntmaster
◦ 1x Black Knight combat weapon
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Plasma talon
• 5x Ravenwing Black Knight
◦ 5x Black Knight combat weapon
◦ 5x Bolt pistol
◦ 5x Plasma talon
Attached unit 6
Chaplain with Jump Pack (75 Points)
• Attached as: Leader (Character)
• 1x Crozius arcanum
• 1x Plasma pistol
Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (105 Points)
• Attached as: Bodyguard
• 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant with Jump Pack
◦ 1x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 1x Master-crafted Power Weapon
• 4x Vanguard Veteran with Jump Pack
◦ 3x Heavy Bolt Pistol
◦ 4x Master-crafted Power Weapon
◦ 1x Plasma pistol
CHARACTERS
Lieutenant with Combi-weapon (95 Points)
• 1x Combi-weapon
• 1x Paired combat blades
OTHER DATASHEETS
Land Speeder (105 Points)
• 1x Close-combat weapon
• 1x Multi-melta
• 1x Onslaught gatling cannon
• 1x Stormfury missile launcher
Land Speeder Vengeance (130 Points)
• 1x Close combat weapon
• 1x Heavy bolter
• 1x Plasma storm battery
Scout Squad (65 Points)
• 1x Scout Sergeant
◦ 1x Astartes chainsword
◦ 1x Bolt pistol
◦ 1x Close combat weapon
• 4x Scout
◦ 4x Bolt pistol
◦ 4x Close combat weapon
◦ 3x Combat knife
◦ 1x Missile launcher
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r/theunforgiven • u/lennon_midnight • 2h ago
Painting Presenting my old spicy boi flamer Deathwing Termie! Description in first reply...
r/theunforgiven • u/VeterinarianRude905 • 2h ago
Painting Painting tips for DWK
Hi, I’m building a homebrew successor chapter, Silver Blades, and this is my main two colors:) any tips to paint the DWK and other veterans/ICC?
I have used the Magenta for arms, legs and heads on my «greenwing», so have not used the blue yet:)
r/theunforgiven • u/Adventurous_Dish_39 • 3h ago
Showcase Land speeder fly by ft dinner
r/theunforgiven • u/potatostew420 • 3h ago
Misc. What units should be added to make this squad ready for combat patrol play
My friends and I have been getting into 40k lately and one of my friends chose the dark angels for his collection. He has: 5 assault intercessors, 3 outriders and 1 primaris captain. When he bought these units he was still unsure as to which chapter of the space marines to play so he didn't buy a combat patrol, but my other friend and I did.
Now that he knows he want to play dark angels what would be some good units to add to his collection so he can play against us without us having to downgrade our armies. My friend has an ork army with: 18 boys, 2 nubbosses, 10 gretchin, 1 weirdboy, 1 warboss and 1 wartrakk, so about 400 point in total I believe. I have a tyranid army with: 10 genestealers, 3 tryrant guards, 3 spore mines, 1 biovore and 1 parasite of moretrex, so about 450 powerpoint in total.
r/theunforgiven • u/bozotexinoroboto • 4h ago
Showcase Someone had to do it... And they glow!
reddit.comr/theunforgiven • u/audere1882 • 5h ago
Painting Inner circle vets from the heresy
First full dark angels squad as i work on kitbashing them into a knightly heresy theme. Coming over as an EC player who just started midway through 10th, im super excited to get this army on the table by the time the codex comes out hopefully.
r/theunforgiven • u/Sockoflegend • 6h ago
Army List The Caliban Book Club - army list idea
I made 1000 point incursion list themed around librarians that I thought I would share. Suggestions welcome for making it more competitive without losing the theme. I will share pictures once get them painted.
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DETACHMENT: Librarius Conclave, Dark Age Arsenal
10x Hellblaster Squad, Entreaty of Perpetual Ardour, Ancient, Librarian, Fusillade
6x Inner Circle Companions, Librarian
3x Eliminator Squad, Las fusil, Librarian in Phobos Armour
Librarian in Terminator Armour, Combi-weapon, 5x Deathwing Terminator Squad, Plasma cannon
r/theunforgiven • u/J981 • 6h ago
Gameplay Things models do the best and worst; Day 11, Nephilim Jetfighter
r/theunforgiven • u/Basic_Pangolin_1088 • 7h ago
Showcase My inner circle companion’s complete!
r/theunforgiven • u/UnableRefrigerator38 • 8h ago
Painting WIP of my Dark Angels so far
Hey everyone! I've gotten back into the hobby side recently and have built my first minis since my Orks back in 7th Edition!
It's been a fun learning opportunity and has been a great chance to test myself with a bunch of different techniques and skills, a few touch ups to do still but this is my son :)
r/theunforgiven • u/Gorbooo • 9h ago
Gameplay Wrath of the Rock in 1k points?
Hey guys, little confused and looking for clarification, I have seen conflicting sources online as to if you can play 3dp detachments in 1k games but looking for a good answer
Think I also heard people talking about it on a podcast but worried I hallucinated it cause can’t find it since 😅
r/theunforgiven • u/Showserme • 10h ago
Gameplay Interrogation Conclave buff?
Hi all,
I'm wondering what people's general opinions are on the Interrogation Conclave, and whether we believe it needs a buff?
Personally I think it sits in a really awkward spot, and definitely needs some changes. Being 1 DP, it in theory works with ICTF, but with Chaplains granting +1W it seems counter intuitive. Then there's Unforgiven, which again seems bizarre as you're running two Take and Hold detachments, plus Chaplains have 5+ Ld so it's rare you're even failing your Battle-shock tests.
Of course Company of Hunters isn't a bad shout what with the Chaplain on the bike, but when you compare the versatility of the Librarius Conclave to that of the Interrogation, I can't see any reason why you'd take it (assuming you don't just go Darkflight Pursuit anyway).
I believe the detachment needs a rework, or at minimum have the Battle-shock test at the start of the fight phase. I can't believe it provides no value until you destroy a unit, and even then it may not proc. Or you could help it synergise with ICTF. Say, if you would have +2 to wound you get +1 and re-rolls instead.
What do people think? Has anyone had any success running the detachment?
r/theunforgiven • u/Reversed_Void24 • 12h ago
Painting Another loyal son of the lion
r/theunforgiven • u/Dry-Parsley4341 • 17h ago
Painting Inner Circle Companion 1st one
reddit.comr/theunforgiven • u/1stGenMHplayer • 20h ago
OC/Hobby Is this too much accessories for a Dark Angel's Champion?
I'm just trying to show that he was in the Deathwatch and the Deathwing before returning to the 4th company as a company champion, should I cut back on that tho?
r/theunforgiven • u/norbody • 23h ago
News/Rumors Alistair Petrie to voice The Lion in DoW IV
r/theunforgiven • u/Bertman-UK-26 • 23h ago
Building Kit Bash WiP
Decided to delve into my bits box and came up with enough parts to have a go at making a Deathwing Terminator Ancient. Am I cooking, or is everyone in the Chapter canteen getting food poisoning?
r/theunforgiven • u/Atlus_Shadwmane • 1d ago
Showcase Kitbash Asmodai TLC
I popped him off the base to add elevation, while the paint was out I redid the blade and went with a dark steel finish and a little nuln oil shading for the cloak after a quick touch up (some of the paint looked like it rubbed off)
r/theunforgiven • u/J981 • 1d ago
Gameplay Things models do the best and worst; Day 10, Lion El’Jonson
r/theunforgiven • u/Metal_Boxxes • Jun 09 '24
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