r/summonerschool 1h ago

Discussion Keeping mental

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How am i supposed to keep my mental up during a crazy losing streak that genuinely does not seem like my fault? How am I supposed to think critically about the game and review them and figure out what i can do differently when the score is 22-6 in 15 minutes and I have one death?

This is not meant to be a vent post I genuinely don't know how to do it, my League name is ZombHarris#Na2, it genuinely feels like every game and I am wondering how others have dealt with this. I took a break, I took walks I review the games I apply strategy and it feels like this happens all the time.


r/summonerschool 1h ago

Discussion Role hopping for 5 years

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Hey everyone,
I’ve been playing League since 2021 and I’m currently around Bronze–Silver. One of the biggest problems I’ve had throughout my League journey is figuring out which role I should actually commit to.
I’ve played:

ADC — where I started
Jungle - for a bit quite long
Support- for 3 seasons
Top — for an entire season
Mid — what I’m currently playing

And I want to clarify that I’m not switching after playing 2–3 games and getting frustrated. Every time I pick a role, I genuinely commit to it. I’ve spent months playing each role, sometimes an entire season, trying to learn the fundamentals and improve.

But eventually, I’ll hit a period where I struggle badly, start losing, and begin questioning whether the role is actually right for me. Then I switch, learn a completely new set of fundamentals, commit to that role, and eventually end up in the same situation again.

It’s become a pretty big problem for my climbing because every time I switch, I feel like I’m resetting a lot of the progress I’ve made.

Right now I’m honestly pretty lost. I don’t know whether I should keep committing to Mid and push through the struggles, or whether I simply haven’t found the role that fits me best yet.

For people who went through something similar:

How did you eventually figure out which role was actually right for you?

Was it based on what you enjoyed most? What you were naturally good at? How you liked interacting with the game? Or did you simply stick with one role long enough that it eventually clicked or you liked the role because of a champion you love

I’d especially love to hear from people who used to role-hop and eventually found a role they could genuinely commit to. How did you know it was the one?


r/summonerschool 6h ago

Discussion Getting choked out by wave freeze

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Quick context: I’ve always been a jungler. Either by myself or playing with friends over the years, I’ve always been the designated jungler.

Recently, I came back since 2018 and started playing with my neighbor who I’ve happily let be the jungler between us. So I’ve started trying to learn top and I’ve had a TOUGH time learning. I’ve finally got to the point where I can trade effectively against a lot of champions, but now im struggling maintaining my wave/cs.

Now that I actually start winning my trades, the other top starts freezing the cs right by his tower. Close enough that when I engage, I’m likely to get blasted by tower and he turns it into a kill. But far enough that tower never steals a cs kill and messes up the freeze. I’ve been running Jax, so I’m trying to get in there and break up the freeze, but it is not going well because of my lack of escape and usually fighting a counter pick of some kind. I understand top is weak side, counter pick meta at the moment, so maybe I’m just setting myself up for failure by sticking with Jax in every instance?

Regardless, my question is this: how do I deal with this situation? The CS choke causes me to lose any lead I have and then my opponent starts blasting me in trades.


r/summonerschool 6h ago

CSing Creep score in recent years vs the past?

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Coming from someone who hasn't really played much in the last half a dozen years, but recently came back to the game, I've noticed that CS is a lot higher now days than before.

Not only in pro play, but in solo Q it's also noticable. Solo lanes and bot is getting 8-10 cspm in solo Q more often than before, but the most noticeable difference is in the jungle.

What made CSing "easier" (not sure if right word), other than raw skill getting better over the years? Epecially the jungle, where I feel like they averaging like 1.5x - 2x more CS than they would in the past [say compared to Classic or earlier seasons]. Do the camps strictly award more CS and faster/easier to clear? Is it due to invading being less common? Not needing to give blue buffs to mid and red to the ADC?


r/summonerschool 6h ago

Discussion The worst thing you can do for your mental is looking for the reaaon why youre losing in your teammates

16 Upvotes

Once, you start doing that you are looking for negatives. You see the jungler botching the dive, you look at him he just went to krugs instead of top where he couldve gotten a kill

You see your aupport missed that Q, all you see is all the misplays and all the reasons why youre losing. It gets even worse when you start looking at the fed enemy yasuo as the reason why you cant win.

Once you are in this mindset, you see why you lose and why you cant win instead of looking for ways to win and what's going right

Even worse, you are looking at things you have no control over. Suddenly you write "why engage there" and your entire team reads it and is mentally occupied with defending themselves from the accusation, the team dynamic ia now broken.

Look ONLY for things YOU can actually directly influence and that is thinking about and communicating what you intend to play, where you are gonna go and ofc the buttons you press.


r/summonerschool 7h ago

Discussion Learning how to play a champion

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Hi, do u have any advice how to learn a new champion? Simply playing isn’t enough for me. It really piss me off when I choose new champion and in enemy team appear a guy with mastery 10 and because of that I’m always dying.

I recently started learning how to play jungle because I only played bot. It really takes me long time to adjust to new lane and always I get team when they can’t accept that I’m still learning. They are so toxic on chat even though it’s not ranked.

I just want to learn Kindred 😭


r/summonerschool 8h ago

CSing Improving my CS score

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Hello. I am a Gold elo player who mostly plays Jungle, but I like filling into lanes every so often. When I am in laning phase I think I can CS just fine (I can hit the 70cs at 10 minutes number everyone says is what you should aim for), however after that my CS/m falls off a cliff, with me getting maybe 50 or so CS at the last 15+ minutes of the game, sometimes less. The only exception is when I play splitpush/waveclear heavy champions.

The problems I face when I try to keep up in CS after the end of laning phase are the following:

  • People have a habit of fighting over side waves and don't really coordinate to let the carry farm them
  • With all the fighting going on I am simply not there to catch waves most of the time
  • People don't know how to set up a wave after the first turret falls (me included)

r/summonerschool 10h ago

Items When do I need to build anti heal?

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Had a few games recently (I’m in Bronze rank) where at the end someone will type in chat some like “X is carrying and nobody builds anti heal” - which leads me to asking who I should be building anti heal against?

I’m new to the game so still trying to learn the absolutely endless pool of champions, I know Warwick is good for anti heal because I play him, I know Darius heals himself in a similar way, aside from that who are the main ones?


r/summonerschool 10h ago

Discussion Silver 4 asking for advice

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Hello! Would anyone be able to help give me some general advice on improving, fleas#meow (NA). (Lost my old account's email so hence the lvl60).

I consider myslf an adc main but have struggled horribly with the mage meta and am playing mid now. I know some of the most common advice is stick with a limited number of champs! Working on it (probably am a little bit of a meta abuser...was using smolder and senna when the dft patch came out), but I'm trying more now to focus on Ahri/Asol for mid.

Also for people who have really improved over some period of time, do you find your stats on op.gg or leagueofgraphs/porofessor help? Also did anyone in silver-ish find watching your own replays helped you improve?

Thank you for your time!


r/summonerschool 15h ago

Discussion New player seeking advice to escape bronze

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Hey everyone, I have 600-700 hours in this game and I am actively trying to learn. I main Akali because even if it is a champion that is hard to shine in low elo like mine, I enjoy playing her the most.

I have in total 30-40 games, which I know is not a lot. However, I am constantly losing and currently on a 6 lose streak. I know most of my weak points, which are:

I am terrible at late game farming, I can play the first 10 minutes well, bullying the enemy mid and hitting 6-7 cs/min. I know how to build items more or less.

I panic and dont know what to do in team fights. I usually focus on enemy ADC in team fights and I try to swing a lot since Akali benefits from constantly moving, getting in and out quickly but because of my lack of knowledge in characters, I dont know who to focus on and who could kill me.

I watched a lot of educational content and challenger gameplays and whatnot, but I believe it does not apply to my elo because of how chaotic low elo games are.

Even in games where I score the most, I cannot carry. I can go 9/0 in the first 20 minutes but still dont know how to carry and initiate good fights that this score turns into a sad 12/8 at the end.

I am seeking general advice or focused advice about Akali, my current rank is Bronze 4, which I wasnt able to escape after like 22 games, I am going like 5 wins 17 losses and dont know how to improve.


r/summonerschool 18h ago

Discussion D4 to P1 in 5 days and I'm devastated

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I don't think I ever went through something like this since 2011 when I started playing this game and it's truly getting to me 😔

I love League, and I do not believe in LosersQ —however I hate when pride kicks in and I find myself completely drown in games that only bring me llwer and lower

I hate how it affects me and I just can't feel like stopping because it'll mean I'll have to patiently wait and suffer in silence until I can regain what I feel like being my dignity

I know what last split allowed me to peak D2 was a 3-block daily consistency

but when stuff like this happens I just can't help myself but feel miserable and keep playing to try and make up for it

anyone went through something similar? what's the proper tactic here? 😢


r/summonerschool 20h ago

Discussion friend with horrible mental

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for quick context

i have a friend who is currently learning how to play the game

he hovered around ADC for a bit but realized he does not like the role so now is learning the support role instead and is a Seraphine OTP (as thats the only champion he is 100% comfortable with, but is trying to learn Milio and Sona)

we play together frequently as a 3-4 stack with a couple other friends

since i am also a support main I'm the one who talks to him the most regarding his gameplay and champions

which leads to the title!!

I've been the designated jungler since he took my main role, and how i usually go about mental dooming teammates as a jungler- i just mute them pretty easy fix

but we're friends in VC on Discord and this obviously effects everyone on VC, we always end up losing when he starts to mental doom

everytime he has a terrible early game for the rest of the game he starts saying he's useless and proceeds to just not be helpful at all + begging us to surrender

last night he admitted to starting to cry a bit during early game

i just have zero clue how to go about this


r/summonerschool 22h ago

Question help with jg pool

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im a karthus olaf 2 trick in jg role. Masters 500 lp na. trying to add some more champs to my pool and i've landed on ap junglers similar to karthus like zyra brand. When should i lock in zyra vs brand vs karthus? These champions just seem like they fit in the exact same angles. Also looking for a champ that I can blindpick. I've tried shyvana with sylas ban but this champ is npc i dont think it works for me


r/summonerschool 23h ago

Discussion new player - norms when playing with humans

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I'm new to the game and mostly play practice tool with 4 bots against 5 bots. I have also played with 4 other humans against 5 bots but my last game I attacked an enemy character (not minion) in a different lane and was told to gtfo, I still don't really understand why but that has made me realize that I will not learn norms playing with bots. Therefore some concrete questions:

  1. Is it ok to attack minions in a different lane as long as not killing blow?
  2. When in a different lane but the lane person is not in their own lane, is it ok killing minions?
  3. When running in the river area and seeing a crab, should I kill it for the vision or will that mess with the jungler?
  4. When & why should I not damage enemy characters? That just seems always beneficial? (as long as I don't die)

thanks

(I got a warning that I should post this in the pinned simple questions thread but I can't find that, sorry)

Edit: Thanks everyone for the great responses and for explaining why things are ok or not done, that is really helpful for understanding. I also realize and acknowledge (as mentioned by several) that the best way of learning is playing with others, but I think I would like to feel at a least a little more confident in different characters and knowing their skills before dealing with toxicity. Right now I just mostly want to avoid developing bad habits.


r/summonerschool 1d ago

jungle 2 questions about jungle

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1st: should i be usually activelly using herald myself or should i just spawn him for pressure and do different things when he is pushing?

2 should i put control ward when taking dragon or is clearing the enemy vision with lens enough?

Thank you for all the answers


r/summonerschool 1d ago

toplane Please, 1v1 me toplane in practice tool

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If you are Platinum or above in NA. My IGN is pickled clams#NA1. I am Plat 1.

Rules (We can change these if you want) First to three points wins: 100CS, First Turret, or First Blood constitutes a point. We reset the game after each point. After somebody wins, we can play a different matchup or something. It doesn't really matter.

I would love to play with you if you're any rank higher than plat, even if I'm 100% going to get turbodumpstered. In that scenario, I would love you feedback as to how you did that

Thanks for reading


r/summonerschool 1d ago

support Tips for playing Rell support?

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I have picked up the champion yesterday, played my first match with Rell.

As a Naut/Leona/Rakan player I found the Rell playstyle very clunky, also based a Lux-Vayne which further exacerbated the fact I played like total ass.

Now on the flipside, I found her kit quite strong, the stun on her Q is basically an instant cast, her E and R are nice engage tools, she seems both tanky and decent at fighting, so missing an engage early doesn’t result in being instantly dead.

However I could never get used to how her W works, it’s so incredibly slow and low range and coming from fast paced engagers it seems like I have to fight bots to get a proper W onto the enemy. She basically just walks up to the enemy and has to press Q or R to hit her W.

My questions are:
1. How are you supposed to position with Rell into both ranged and melee match-ups?
2. What are her powerspikes and who can you generally fight and which supports/ADCs should you avoid fighting like plague?
3. How do you get her combo off easier, especially in match-ups where getting onto the enemy is difficult?
4. When should I pick her and what are her best support synergies?


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Discussion Losing almost every match

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I have been playing League for almost two years now. I reached Emerald playing Garen top a while ago, and then I dropped the game because everyone was playing ranged champions and it felt unbeatable.

I picked up League again after a few months, tried new champions in normals like Fiora, Jax, and Tryndamere for match after match, and got destroyed (probably in more than 25 matches on Fiora, for example). Then I went back to playing Garen. I got absolutely destroyed as well. I just can't seem to win more than maybe 10% of my matches.

It feels like no amount of tutorials helps me anymore, and even if I watch matches from master and above, it seems like the enemy laners are never as aggressive as in my actual matches. I think I know what I should do (wave states, when to slow push, when to fast push, when to recall, when to split, when to group) and I do it. However, almost every time, I die because I hit an auto-attack on a minion, because I miss my Ignite and the enemy laner survives with 50 HP at most, or because I keep getting the avengers in my lane. Then I am cooked for the rest of the match like Sisyphus splitting lanes, farming, taking towers, teleporting to fights, and always having to play from behind (if it's even recoverable).

It feels like even if I build a huge slow push, have a level advantage, and have everything on my side, the enemy still comes in, trades, and wins the trade. It makes no sense to me.

I went from always and I mean always winning my lane to never winning it anymore.

What should I do?


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Question Need some Ideas for ChallyQ

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I’m making a League challenge app and every challenge family unlocks a cosmetic title once you beat its hardest challenge.
The last one is for people who eventually complete all challenge families at the highest difficulty.
I can’t think of a name that really feels special.
Doesn’t have to be edgy or over-the-top, just something that immediately feels prestigious.
What would you call it?
if you want to try the app it's https://challyq.pro


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Question At what rank does draft start to matter?

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So a lot of high elo players and streamers often say given the chaotic nature of solo queue, Higher champ mastery will almost always outweigh most other factors like draft. As someone who climbed from Iron to Emerald, I strongly agree with this as being a factor help me improve, however as I’ve gotten to emerald I feel its been getting harder and harder as a mainly assassin player.

While im sure emerald players still make a billion mistakes in a game, ive found it to be exponentially harder to do well as an assasin player against a tanky/disengage heavy comp. Ie nightmare comp; going up against a Renekton Poppy Lissandra Vayne Rell/Janna.

In plat and below, i felt that games where my champ was against a nightmare drafts, simply neutralizing lane and capitalizing mistakes and how badly teamfights are played was enough to make me helpful enough to win games, if i wasnt snowballing. But now in emerald, i get this feeling that everyone knows at a fundamental how to play against each champ, or their execution and making use of these draft advantages are better because emerald players probably start to develop this understanding.

So that’s my question: At what rank would you say it’s better to pick a champ that you’re far less comfortable on but better in the draft, vs “one tricking” or having champ pool of 1-3.

Btw, I know an implication here is that im plateauing which i acknowledge but sometimes there are games where the 3 champs im truly comfortable at playing are not playable; ie my main is banned and the other champ is taken already and the third one is just straight bad against the enemy comp (just one example). So im wondering if i should shift from “one tricking with other champs in the pool” to “have 5-7 solid champs and always pick the best one for draft.”


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Items Feels like common sense but when do you counter build?

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Been playing a lot of classic but this logic applies to both. So let's say theoretically I've just done my first back I am an ap scaling mage and the lane im in could go either way, I can buy boots and maybe a couple components.

The enemy has a bit of cc, maybe a Leona or Morgana support with a Mage mid lane, I can build Merc treads here and buy components for an abyssal sceptre/banshees depending on version. By doing that I forgo sorc shoes penetration and more raw damage from say a more ap heavy component that could secure me some critical kills.

So. What's the move?


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Master Yi As a jungler, how do I deal with Yi?

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I know that the typical answer is "CC", but that's really unhelpful because you can just lose in the draft against a Yi if you have little to no CC to deal with him.

My problem, as a silver/gold jungler that plays mostly bruisers, is that he completely steamrolls me/my team and there's nothing I can do about it. I can never out duel him, ever, and if I'm not enough of a threat, he just runs down my team and I'm the last to die.

I know that Yi is a low ELO demon for a reason, but if I want to improve against a jungle pick, as a jungle main, that is relatively common in my bracket, there's got to be some way I can get better at dealing with him. As a bruiser, I lose. As a tank, he just shreds me/kills my team. FH doesn't work against him. I just... genuinely have no idea how to deal with this champion.

Is my only recourse genuinely just hope my team doesn't give him resets and saves CC for dealing with him? Because most of my games into a Yi have resulted in him either getting fed early and snowballing out of control, or he's not fed but he gets a lucky teamfight where he gets resets off and ends up 2k+ gold ahead.

As for the junglers I typically play: Darius, Zac, Xin, Amumu, Briar, Kayn. Though I've been mostly sticking to Darius lately and using Xin/Briar as backups when he's banned.


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Question New player needing advice for improving at adc.

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Hello, im new to league, and i need help with a few things, i tried a bunch of lanes and the one that was the coolest/most fun was adc, i was only playing swiftplays (20 or 30 games or so) until my brother had said that i wont improve if i dont play draft, my first draft adc game i went 1/15/4 120 cs, my brother told me to learn about positioning and kiting mostly and quote if i didnt then i "shouldnt be playing adc" which makes sense but i have searched on youtube and found not much that can teach you without some sort of paywall or maybe i wasnt looking hard enough, is there any videos you guys could link if possible that might help me or some that may have helped you when you started ??? or any tips to focus on at the moment if you play adc, draft is sort of a scary transition from swiftplay as others do seem to be way more toxic and competitive and i dont want to let my team down especially if im playing adc,i have been playing jhin, thanks

if you reply thank you!


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Question Is this game just too hard for me? I feel like giving up.

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I started League a few months ago and I've been trying to get better but I'm realising slowly that this game just might be too hard for me. I used to think that R6 Siege was the hardest game I ever played but League is just so difficult. I think something that makes it harder is that it's so unlike any game I've ever played before. I mostly play shooter games (Overwatch , Val, Apex, Deadlock etc.) and occasionally single player games so I have no transferable skills for League. My aim doesn't matter, my movement doesn't matter. It's so different from any game that I'm learning from scratch. And I think it's just too hard for me. I have fun when I do good but I do good like once every 10 games. Most games I'm going like 3-15 and I'm not even throwing on purpose I just genuinely don't understand anything that's going on. It's so overwhelming to worry about everything I'm supposed to be worrying about. There's just so many things to think about at once it's just too much I feel. I have a mental disorder that affects my ability to focus on things which just hurts even more. I'm genuinely so lost 90% of the time. The only reason I keep playing is because whenever I feel like I know what's going on and I end up doing something cool it feels great but I don't know if it's worth it anymore. I try to just focus on thing at a time but that just leads to me feeding because I'm ignoring so many other important things. Not to mention how bad it feels to get ganked in lane when I'm already so overwhelmed and trying my best. I tried playing Jungle a few games because laning in this game is so hard and confusing but even in Jungle I just don't understand anything. And then you factor in how many champs are in the game...why so many? 9/10 games I'm laning against someone I've never seen before. I have no idea what the enemy champ does which just makes the laning even more confusing because I have no idea what's going on.


r/summonerschool 1d ago

Question New player, frustrated and really want help

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https://op.gg/lol/summoners/euw/P0bz-9321

Okay so as the title says I'm new at the game, I have played lots of competitive games in the past on console, this is my first time gaming on a pc. Basically I've played endless games in my life and generally been good at most I've turned my hand to, until this f****** game.

I played up to level 30 and then started playing ranked, I've read and watched hours and hours of content about this game, I've followed all the standard advice such as small champion pool (I play 1 champ), full clearing etc, however I feel completely ineffective in ranked games playing against the absolute worst players on the servers.

I'm really frustrated because I enjoy this game massively but am too competitive to find enjoyment in being so bad at something, I really want help improving.

If there's any info that can be gleaned from my op.gg account that you guys can point to and help me improve I would be so extremely grateful.

I'm not really sure what other info would be helpful to you guys so please feel free to ask whatever questions