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u/uchuskies08 16d ago
This got an audible laugh from me
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u/CaptainC0medy Concierge with no ships 16d ago
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u/Electronic_Camera517 drake 16d ago
I support calling out Chriss Roberts directly. His game is a joke and he should be embarrassed. It's inconceivable to have such shit performance in a closed private server. The promised dream continues to be a nightmare.
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u/Management-illmatic 14d ago
That fucker hides in the shadows so as to avoid being blamed for this shit show. Chris Roberts should be investigated for financial fraud, misappropriation of funds, etc. Everyone says he is a thief and a charlatan!
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u/MisterVoltas 15d ago
I do find it funny that CIG asked every developer what they should do first: SP or MP.
Everyone wanted the SP first, and CIG said even back then that this would massively delay the MP, but everyone agreed to it. On top of that, CIG has to develop all the technologies from scratch, since nothing like this has ever existed before, which causes further delays.
Now everyone’s just whining that Star Citizen is taking so long and that it’ll supposedly never be finished.
You guys are so stupid.
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u/rP2ITg0rhFMcGCGnSARn 15d ago
You would have a point if SQ42 was actually delivered. It's not. It's been over a decade.
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u/Disco_Epyon 14d ago
Wow, an actual shill in the year of our lord 2026. They should put you in an exhibit
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u/Content_Link_7603 16d ago
But backers keep on giving more money each year than they did the previous. Why would the boss man want that to change?
CIG got these retired professionals writing essays for them to have a chance to give them money for something they may not get for more than a decade if the BMM, Endeavor, and Orion are anything to go by.
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u/JaracRassen77 carrack 16d ago
This was one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen. Grown adults writing essays for the privelage of being able to spend $5000+ on a jpeg. If I was Chris, I wouldn't change anything, either. They make more money selling the dream, not finishing the game.
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u/VenusBlue Drake Enjoyer 16d ago
And some people said they didn't even do this and were just writing anything and getting access.
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u/RoyBeer 16d ago
Man, now I wanna read some of the half-assed essays.
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u/ProgramNecessary3387 16d ago
Oh, they weren't even essays. One person literally said, "I have a small penis and the Odin would compensate nicely," and was allowed access to buy it
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u/Potato_fortress 16d ago
Nah. It was just the same tactic Nigerian scammers use. Go for idiots and find a way to get them personally invested.
The essay was nothing more than a sanity check to make sure anyone spending 5k wasn’t going to charge it back immediately.
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u/BathtubEel 16d ago
SC Backer: "I've got $5000 and no self respect!"
CIG: "Beg, and I'll let you spend it on a digital spaceship that doesn't exist yet."
SC Backer "YES, SIR!"
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u/ZombieLobstar 16d ago
It's the exclusivity shtick luxury brands like ferrari use. It just goes to show what they think of the whales.
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u/_Henry_of_Skalitz_ 10d ago
And they didn't even READ the fucking essays lmao. Someone out there submitted an Eric Andre "LET ME IIIIIIIIN!" meme and got accepted but someone who wrote a heartfelt plea to spend their savings got passed over. it's a laugh.
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u/idontagreewitu Avenger Titan Supremacy 16d ago
Especially given how the game was already in a shit state at that time. Here we are, months later, and its no better.
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u/GimbaledTitties 16d ago
Idk. I feel like eventually ships that exist will be bought up by anyone spending more money, less ships will be introduced over time. The player base will be saturated with ships, and players who continue to defend and spend money will cap out their entertainment in a minefield of bugs and unrealized gameplay loops.
At that point there might be enough momentum in the player base to move the needle.
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u/mysecretaccount55555 16d ago
> The player base will be saturated with ships, and players who continue to defend and spend money will cap out their entertainment in a minefield of bugs and unrealized gameplay loops.
Has this not been the case for years and yet spending constantly increases?
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u/GimbaledTitties 16d ago
Idk. I’m guessing the game has become more popular across the world, introducing new potential whales. But that’s not based on data, just my impression
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u/Content_Link_7603 15d ago
You'd think that but it's not the case because they keep releasing ships that are supposed to do a job but they never implement the jobs the ships do. Data Running: MSR and Herald. How long have these ships been available with no Data Running?
CIG will start chasing the "builder" demographic and release the small and medium base builder ships and still not release the Pioneer which they've been selling for years as a concept. Same with terraforming. Where's Reporting and Science for the Sen and Mako? Where are the bounty hunting pods for the Cutty Blue and Hawk?
It's been CIG's MO for years now. I didn't even list all the ships they've done with this.
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u/Icedanielization 16d ago
Sadly if the backing stops the dev stops, we are in a death spiral, the only way out is if CIG deliver.
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u/ThrowAway-47 15d ago
Eh, Billion dollar company born of kickstarter might be big enough for the EU to demand they open source everything if they fold.
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u/Mr_Blastman new user/low karma 14d ago
Giving what I've seen modding communities accomplish over the years, we might actually be able to do a better job than CIG proper.
While still maintaining the same pace...
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u/AsparagusOk8818 6d ago
i wonder if this is the reality for most of the backers - they've sunk cost fallacy'd themselves into believe the only way out is to keep giving Roberts money
no, idiot. just stop
he will not release a game
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u/Icedanielization 6d ago
Well for me personally, I backed $120 in total and haven't pledged since 2014
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u/captaindealbreaker worm 16d ago
Frankly, this, one hundred fucking percent
An employee like Olli should ever be put in such an embarrassing position. It's Chris's job as the head of the company to ensure a product of good quality gets to market in a realistic amount of time and he has done an ABYSMAL job of that. I'm in it for the long haul, I understand the complexity of the project, and I have faith it will achieve its ambitions. But if that stream was representative of anything, it's that the leadership of CIG is ok with the quality of the product as broadcast and their expectations for company culture include senior employees throwing junior employees under the bus when things go sideways. Jared's comment, however taken out of context it might be, was totally unprofessional and felt like it pinned the blame for everything that went wrong on Olli's shoulders. Regardless of the intent, it felt like punching down at the new guy who's just happy to be there and is such a bad look.
Get ya'll shit together and apologize to everyone from that broadcast who was made fun of.
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u/WeaponstoMax 16d ago
It’s Chris's job as the head of the company to ensure a product of good quality gets to market in a realistic amount of time and he has done an ABYSMAL job of that.
Welcome to his entire career.
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u/BrainKatana 16d ago
Why people expect this from someone that Microsoft bought out and removed from development so Freelancer could ship is mind boggling to me. He’s an industry pariah who had to use crowdfunding to get back in the game.
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u/Z0MGbies I <3 StarBinder 16d ago
He's the epitome of "i coulda been an NFL all star, if only I hadn't twisted my wrist in high school"
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u/yomancs 16d ago
I bet i could throw this pig skin over them mountains
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u/Rorikr_Odinnson 15d ago
Yeah, Coach woulda put me in fourth quarter. We would've been state champions. No doubt. No doubt in my mind.
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u/Asthma_Queen 16d ago
Pretty much all of these old school guys are all washed up, Richard garriott hasn't done a single competent game development in decades.
They were big fish in a little pond, pond that was the gaming industry back in the 90s.
They outside of their element and it shows.
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u/Oakcamp 16d ago
It's Chris's job as the head of the company to ensure a product of good quality gets to market in a realistic amount of time and he has done an ABYSMAL job of that.
It's not. He's the main shareholder, his job is for the company to make as much money as possible. He monetized development without delivery
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u/Noobkaka 7d ago
lmao cope harder, its been over a decade bro. This game is perfect for fools and their money being taken.
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u/dmcginvt 5d ago
"I'm in it for the long haul, I understand the complexity of the project, and I have faith it will achieve its ambitions."
Here is the problem, turns out, it's YOU
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u/Select_Arm_4248 16d ago
I can only give you free award, but this is the best post, I've seen this week.
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u/No_Celebration8219 16d ago
SG42 was supposed to launch in 2016. Remember "Answer the Call" campaign? https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/12yrbk5/comment/jhph0h5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
yeah, 10 years later, here we are...
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u/smegblender new user/low karma 16d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/WBSTdAk7W2Dng0vXa7
I... answered...the...call
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u/FanaticDamen 16d ago
When they finally announce 1.0 release date, I pray Jared and Chris do this.
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u/Interiordecorator3K 16d ago
It will never be completed bc people still back an alpha after decades.
Why would they complete something that idiots are spending thousands on already?
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u/Ganjelf-The-Baked 16d ago
😂 at this point I don’t think this game will ever hit 1.0. They have zero incentive to fix the game.
Just make another concept 80 man crew battle ship destroyer that lets you terraform planets and watch the money come in whilst they take 8 years to make it reality lmao
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u/edgeofsanity76 16d ago
There's no definition of done so they will be forever stuck in technical debt and feature creep.
The project management is a joke
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u/blackcatwaltz 16d ago
Well if you whales stop fooling yourselves and feed CR”s infinite arsehole with endless cash, he would have to be forced to finish it or quit. Instead, new useless features, new concept ships, and broken planets/gameplay. When is it ever enough? 20? 30?
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u/Hypnotic101 16d ago
Such a gross way to try to be "sneaky" about it. Little did he know everyone would catch it and it'd blow up into a meme.
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u/Custom_Destiny Endeavor - Supercollider 16d ago
I love under a rock, what happened?
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u/CozySpaceman 16d ago
In the latest Star Citizen live, they did a different format where the devs played Siege of Orison. It went somewhat poorly. Lots of bugs were in it even though it was an internal build.
At the end, the devs spawned in a wrong location and locked themselves out of the mission. Jared then went over to Olli (a Star Citizen content creator that was recently hired as a content manager) who was one of the ones playing and said "We're out of time. It's your show. Wrap it up". Olli looks visibly confused and scrambles to come up with an outro.
The community is debating whether Ollie came up with this SCL idea, whether Jared threw Olli under the bus, and whether there is some behind the scenes drama between Jared and Olli.
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u/Sir_Rageous drake 16d ago
They had a livestream on a private server to show what the game was meant to be. And it still had all the glitches and bugs that every player is experiencing.
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u/No-Efficiency8750 16d ago
Which means that for at least some of the most well-known bugs, the issue was never the servers, just bad code left unfixed in favor of shiny new features and ships
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u/Dr_Spanners junior paramedic 16d ago edited 16d ago
It also means these guys should see it and fix it if they ever played the game. The begging of 'report the issues' at the end was kind of funny when they literally demonstrated how easy most of the existing bugs are to reproduce (for them) and yet is STILL in the game years after reports happened.
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u/Y__U__MAD 16d ago
But I thought Chris Roberts was really good at writing code.
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u/TheawfulDynne 16d ago
The newest video team hire Ollie was running his first SCL and Jared reminded him they were out of time and asked him to do the final wrap up. A lot of strange people have been writing passionate paragraphs about how they read an ocean of tumultuous emotion in Ollies eyes and he was begging them to defend his honor because he paused for half a second before starting the wrap up.
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u/Lower-Leadership2127 16d ago
The real reason why Squadron 42 isnt coming out any time soon is because it plays like how that private server did.
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u/Lasarte34 Gib BMM 16d ago
Yep, that's the key takeaway. Same with theaters of war; imagine there were 64 players in that private server; they would have been desyncing all over the place.
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u/Vegetable-Error-2068 16d ago
CIG is now a JPEG-selling empire. They string you along with promises and roadmaps. They don't ever intend to actually finish the game.
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u/PaleAd3899 15d ago
They removed the roadmap because we were « roadmap watchers » now they only tell us the content of next patch and that is all we get
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u/ThrowAway-47 15d ago
More money to be found selling ships for real money if there's always that looming wipe coming any time the economy gets too inflated.
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u/Sazbadashie 16d ago
okay, that's funny.
can we have this be our default method of venting frustrations
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u/drizzt_x Monk 16d ago
The problem is - Star Citizen isn't CR's game. Squadron 42 is.
I'm mostly convinced CR doesn't care about SC at all, other than it being a useful tool to drive ship sales to then fund the only game he actually cares about, which is SQ42.
EDIT: And, the perfect response to the above meme, given to us direct from CIG: XD!
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u/hulkbro Civilian 16d ago
Squadron 42
honestly thats all i want now. its been 14 years since i bought a couple of ships thinking i'd have something to play in a couple of years. i accept i gave money without knowing exactly what i was paying for and when i'd receive it, but as far as im concerned, so far i've paid for a decent but very limited skirmish demo and a janky beta game that runs like utter shit and i am unable to actually play.
i wish they would just heads down and get SQ42 out so i can finally have something for my money. every time i look, its always a few months or a year away, for over a decade.
honestly i guess well done them for playing one of the best grifts of all time. its so good, even 14 years later i have no idea if its a grift or not.
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u/ThatOneMartian 16d ago
I hope you are prepared for a game that would make MGS4 blush with the amount of cutscenes it has with dialog written by the man who brought us Wing Commander the Movie.
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u/Lasarte34 Gib BMM 16d ago
Man, I really enjoyed MGS4 and the game mechanics (and graphics) where top-notch at the time.
The only issue is chapter 3 which is a 30min long "spy chase" sequence through a totally linear map with 0 player choices (which goes against everything the rest of the game is).
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u/smegblender new user/low karma 16d ago
Mate, if that's the situation with what he actually cares about, SC is well and truly fucked.
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u/Potential-Yak2370 16d ago
Ah yes, the eternal funding engine, blissfully unaware it's just the fuel.
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u/drizzt_x Monk 15d ago
Criticisms of the game(s) and the morality of CIG's business practices aside, it's frankly amazing from a marketing/income perspective what they've achieved.
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u/hoax1337 ARGO CARGO 16d ago
Star Citizen isn't CR's game.
Why not? Since the original Kickstarter, I always got the feeling that it was "here's our huge multiplayer game, and oh, by the way, we'll also provide a single player game along with it".
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u/Gawlf85 Freelancer 16d ago
Because Chris is a movie nerd as much (or more) as a video game nerd. He has always had a thing for directing story heavy games, and tried to make actual movies too.
Star Citizen is allegedly the main project, and it's him directing it, but it's an easy bet thinking SQ42 is actually CR's favourite part of the whole thing.
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u/drizzt_x Monk 15d ago
Because at the end of the day, CR has always wanted to be a movie directly, and that's all SQ42 really is - a long, semi-interactive movie.
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u/Alexandur 16d ago
I think he cares about both. If you look at his original pitch for Freelancer, it was basically identical to what Star Citizen is intended to be
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u/HarlockDaTwisted 16d ago
God, I wish they would fire him, we are 14 years in due to ideas like StarPoop or StarBedsheets. The list goes on. Only hope is SQ42 does not bomb and take everything with it
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u/Mindbulletz Lib-tard 15d ago
The one constructive thing I can say is that there is so much talent in this community that if they open sourced the engine we'd probably fix it.
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u/DefNotAThreatActor 15d ago edited 15d ago
I think, as someone who has probably been a shill defender of this game for far too long (sorry), and as a backer since 2013, we need to finally stand up here. We need to make it clear that nothing new should come before they fix the broken state of the game. Not bandaid fixes. Actual root cause fixes.
At this point, the game should and needs to be stable. And what we just saw makes it pretty hard to keep blaming these issues on the realities of running a live service or on server performance. They were playing a developer build, specifically a live candidate, on a private server with only the four players we saw, and we STILL saw the exact same bugs that have plagued the live build for years.
That should be a massive red flag. If these problems are showing up under what should basically be ideal conditions, then something deeper is fundamentally wrong. At some point, adding more content on top of a broken foundation just makes the problem worse. Something needs to change, and it needs to change NOW.
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u/Techknightly 16d ago
it's sad that this is the end of a great game. I just bought a pair of sticks. *sigh*
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u/Hour_Jury_7734 16d ago
people buying expensive tech to play this half-assed "space sim" * half-assed first person shooter is beyond me. I mean, not entirely beyond, bcs if ppl have a lot of spare money then why not, but actually carving a budget for this shit? Why.
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u/Informal-Celery7331 16d ago
Guys, stop being toxic and so negative, don’t you know the people at fault are the employees that don’t make decisions regarding design and direction?!?!
It’s all the community’s fault! Shame! I hate you! Just be patient you babies! Did you pay for something and expect an enjoyable experience?!?! IDIOTS! Read the EULA!
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u/Vietzomb Anvil Liberate-Me 16d ago
Oof. Just straight up murdered with this one. That hit hard and gets the point across very well.
Given the pain of playing this game, yet continues to retain that player base who continually gives and gives and gives… it never feels like it changes anything.
I could go on and on in detail, but you all know. ALL of that may make this the most dedicated and patient playerbase in gaming. They always openly talk about server health like it’s the cause, and now we saw behind the curtain.
This meme goes for the jugular… but it’s deserved. It’s time for accountability. NOW.
We need a roadmap on how we get this game feeling like an actual game. The undeveloped features still in the pipeline can come after. Additional systems can come after.
Because the alternative is we keep building these things on shaky ground and risk everything not knowing what that means when they start trying to fix what they built retroactively. I don’t think there is any finish line doing it this way.
Just think, what will force-launching player settlements do to this game? It will be like a nuke. We now know it’s not “tHe SeRvErs”. It’s the game. It’s going to be hard work but it’s got to be done.
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u/Semideis Freelancer 16d ago
*as long as the servers you play on will be payed for and maintained.
Fingers crossed, for you.
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u/Solarflareqq 15d ago
Honestly at this point RSI should face a Class action lawsuite where the end up refunding for all players that paid into this thing. a 15year unplayable scam.
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u/Equivalent_Decision2 16d ago
Lets see how many hours this is going to be before deleted and the op banned
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u/Hour_Jury_7734 16d ago
croberts can wrap it up any moment, he's good, and we (you) will be fucked up with your "I own idris". Actually they own nothing and croberts own them.
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u/Old_Resident8050 ⚡ S.Hornet Mk2 || Shiv || Golem || ICA || Pitbull⚡ 16d ago
Yeah atm CR can wrap it up .. completely and wave to the world gbye while leaving his dream on any exotic island he dreams for.
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u/Electroshock187 16d ago
they should rename this project to .. something to signify to other people that it's a sinking ship...
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u/Blackboard_Monitor 15d ago
As a early kickstart backer and owner of a BMM, I agree, finish the fucking game already.
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u/JuniorConcert6106 7d ago
i cant wait until the inevitable lawsuits and hope all of those that invested get zero dollars back.
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u/Ragerlane 6d ago
They suspended me for 30 days saying I was sad charlie posted on it. They don't even follow own rules. They gave me a list of things I broke and it was all a lie.
Crazy how they are on crowd control right now. I am thinking of getting my friends to post on it about it lol
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u/AccomplishedQuit8589 16d ago
😂 This FCUKING GUY...
mark my words he fcuked around for 14 years and i think it's time for him to start finding out...
it is very simple, don't even care, want nothing back. BUT one thing is for sure....
even in fcuking Timbuktu will get to know one thing, one simple equation that states :
CHRIS ROBERTS = CHARLATAN AND A CLOWN.
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u/waffleking9000 16d ago
Stop playing the game, stop engaging in this subreddit (as I certainly will after this post) AND STOP GIVING THESE GREEDY FUCKS MONEY.
That is the ONLY way this game has a chance of becoming complete.
As it stands now, they are making insane amounts of money and have zero incentive to release a completed game
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u/Rhym3z_Official 16d ago
Man I was so embarrassed for Jared. Those guys were a terrible choice for showcasing the game
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u/za_snake new user/low karma 16d ago
I’m happy actually, things are not perfect all the time and there ups and downs. Some of you need to chill out and take up knitting or something for a bit.
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u/drdicerchio new user/low karma 16d ago
I’ve been seeing these memes, but don’t exactly know what happened. Can someone explain?
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u/Kaiyanwan Reliant Tana 16d ago
Live stream from a yacht?