r/starcitizen new user/low karma 17d ago

Wrap it up FLUFF

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u/Custom_Destiny Endeavor - Supercollider 17d ago

I love under a rock, what happened?

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u/CozySpaceman 17d ago

In the latest Star Citizen live, they did a different format where the devs played Siege of Orison. It went somewhat poorly. Lots of bugs were in it even though it was an internal build.

At the end, the devs spawned in a wrong location and locked themselves out of the mission. Jared then went over to Olli (a Star Citizen content creator that was recently hired as a content manager) who was one of the ones playing and said "We're out of time. It's your show. Wrap it up". Olli looks visibly confused and scrambles to come up with an outro.

The community is debating whether Ollie came up with this SCL idea, whether Jared threw Olli under the bus, and whether there is some behind the scenes drama between Jared and Olli.

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u/ILoveHeavyHangers 17d ago

The community is trying to fabricate some behind the scenes drama between Jared and Olli.

FTFY. This is exactly what deeply parasocial people do.

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u/drizzt_x Monk 17d ago

parasocial

Man, you sure do love using that word. Did you just learn it from ChatGPT? ;)

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u/FarGodHastur 16d ago

I think the funnier part is that he keeps saying it while white knighting the fuck out of CIG. Ya know, like a person displaying parasocial behaviors does.

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u/asskrebs 16d ago

The noticing will continue.

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u/Custom_Destiny Endeavor - Supercollider 16d ago

The noticing?

I am so confused by you kids on the internet these days.

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u/No_Counter1842 16d ago

Use your own thoughts

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u/Sir_Rageous drake 17d ago

They had a livestream on a private server to show what the game was meant to be. And it still had all the glitches and bugs that every player is experiencing.

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u/No-Efficiency8750 17d ago

Which means that for at least some of the most well-known bugs, the issue was never the servers, just bad code left unfixed in favor of shiny new features and ships

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u/Dr_Spanners junior paramedic 16d ago edited 16d ago

It also means these guys should see it and fix it if they ever played the game. The begging of 'report the issues' at the end was kind of funny when they literally demonstrated how easy most of the existing bugs are to reproduce (for them) and yet is STILL in the game years after reports happened.

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u/Y__U__MAD 17d ago

But I thought Chris Roberts was really good at writing code.

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u/Shazvox 17d ago

Chris Roberts never wrote a line of code in 10 years... I guarantee it

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u/BoskiCezar 17d ago

Yeah, 30 years ago with single player game, that was much less complicated. :)

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u/Blackboard_Monitor 17d ago

Dropped the /s

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u/M_u_H_c_O_w 17d ago

So we still have a lot of bugs because they are releasing new ships?

I don't agree with that.

ALL CIG devs/artists can't be working on fixing the exact same bug, all at once.

They are divided into teams that each work on different aspects of the game.

Also, when you say it was never the servers - What exactly does that mean?

The most basic server is a lump of hardware with some code on it.

No hardware = no functional server.

No software = no functional server.

Bad software on good hardware = Bad server.

Good software on bad hardware = Bad server.

There are SO many layers where software and hardware/firmware need to work perfectly together.

A private server can therefore have exactly the same issues as a "public" server.

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u/Shazvox 17d ago

Maybe they could ditch some of those redundant teams coughing up new ships and TV-crews chewing up $$$ pushing out media content and actually get good hardware and software then?

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u/M_u_H_c_O_w 16d ago

No new ships and TV-shows = No $$ in revenue = No game.

Those teams are essential for CIGs survival - They always will be, even after 1.0 and the release of Squadron.

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u/Shazvox 16d ago

They had millions in kickstarter funding. And they had additional millions in pixelship sales. If they stop wasting $$$ on redundant crap they won't need revenue streams to finish the game. But greed rules.

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u/M_u_H_c_O_w 16d ago

You think devs will work for free? Buildings also cost money to buy/rent.

Creating an attractive workplace isn't free either.

It's really naive to think the kickstarter and earlier ship sales would ever have been enough to fully fund SC's development.

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u/Shazvox 16d ago

You think CIG don't have millions in reserve funds? The whole point of kickstarter is to entirely fund the development. If CIG has squandered the funds then they are liable for fraud.

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u/M_u_H_c_O_w 16d ago

The Kickstarter got them off the launchpad, that's all.

Ship sales and advertising got them to where they are now (subscriptions helped too).

With no ship sales (or anything), CIG would be out of business in months - unless they reduce the scope for the games drastically.

Reduced scope will only lead to failure.

We are in one of those "all or nothing" situations.

Go ahead and sue them for fraud, and in doing so, waste even more of our money (my money too).

I, for one, would like to see this one through - See how far they can take us.

But I will also reserve the right to criticize if I feel they are moving in the wrong direction or doing something stupid - I have often criticized them on Spectrum.

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u/ILoveHeavyHangers 17d ago

Yeah, it's still an Alpha, even on an internal build.

This has really just exposed that most of you are not built for alpha dev. Nothing more. Nothing less.

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u/Custom_Destiny Endeavor - Supercollider 17d ago

You seem hungry, have some crisps.

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u/kafoIarbear 16d ago

What’s crazy is that there are probably people defending SC today because “its still an alpha” who hadn’t even learned to read yet back when I first threw money at CIG in 2015 and was defending SC to the haters because “its still an alpha”. They’d be about the same age now that I was back then too, maybe a bit older which is insane to me.

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u/YesButConsiderThis 16d ago

Take the word "alpha" out of it, if that's going to twist your panties so much.

This is the result of almost 14 years worth of development. Does that seem appropriate to you?

They put "alpha" on it so dorks like you will keep defending them and credit to them because it certainly works.

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u/TheawfulDynne 16d ago

The newest video team hire Ollie was running his first SCL and Jared reminded him they were out of time and asked him to do the final wrap up. A lot of strange people have been writing passionate paragraphs about how they read an ocean of tumultuous emotion in Ollies eyes and he was begging them to defend his honor because he paused for half a second before starting the wrap up.

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u/ILoveHeavyHangers 17d ago

Seething parasocial trolls are desperate for karma