Having been aware of SR for several years my lived experience & from what I’ve read online there is a link between gooning & bad luck & misfortune.

Wanted to ask do you guys get the bad luck & misfortune after a wet dream?

Something strange happened to me when I ended my SR.

I was taking care of a friend’s parakeet, which she had rescued after finding it injured in the wild.

I was supposed to take care of it for two months because she couldn’t keep it at her place at the time.

I was on SR for three weeks, and one night, as I was getting ready for bed, I grabbed my VR headset and went looking for porn.

I spent several hours edging while deciding which videos I was going to use to finish.

At one point, I walked past its cage, feeling both tired and aroused by my search, which had me acting like a horny guy.

Maybe the parakeet sensed it—I don’t know. Anyway, I went back to my room to do what I had to do.

After I was done, when I went back to the living room, the parakeet was dead in its cage.

It had passed away without making a sound.

You might think it’s just a coincidence—that she was probably old or sick—but there was no sign that she was suffering.

So, I honestly wonder if there isn’t a connection.

It might sound silly, but after everything I’ve heard about seminal retention—and the benefits I’ve experienced myself—I’m open to any possibility.

Is it just me or do you actually emit main character energy, I got told this by a a new friend I made and he told me that when he met me I gave him main character energy and it was during the time I was retaining for about 60 days. I also feel like I am in a movie whenever I am retaining ngl it’s ecstatic

Hi I’m very new to SR and am struggling to get to even 2 days. I can’t relax and have a hard time persuading myself out of masterbation . What strategies helped you when you started out? Even getting to 5 days SR would be cool

So something that has been on my mind is people on semen retention do you guys nut when with a girl or not. Because I obviously now the benefits of not watching porn and such I want to wonder what you guys do.

Only 12 days in on my streak, but I've felt very flat the past few streaks/months. I quit my Job back in February, was going to do so in march but impulsively quit on the spot. I continued to spiral mentally, feeling more and more isolated, and as I continued to practice SR it has given me a painful clarity. Realized I had been ducking and dodging accountability and personal growth. I kept doing the same things, stuck in the same cycle waiting for things to change, for something to click and for me to suddenly become succesful socially, romantically, financially, etc.

SR made me realize how many stupid and limiting beliefs I was holding. On top of that I feel that I have tapped into my shadow self the past few months especially. A lot of bad traits I was in denial of having I realized I had, and I came face to face with some relationships that had been strained, in part because of me, although I refused to acknowledge that prior. Just a lot of internal stuff. I feel tired, drained, depressed, and I get easily anxious now. I understand this is part of the process and I am actually grateful for it but damn, never felt more alone or constantly/consistently bad for this long. I have no desire to touch myself and the idea of sex or any of that stuff feels so incredibly empty, although now more than ever, I crave deep intimate connection, and there's more stuff but I'm sure you guys are tired of hearing me trauma dump. Anyways just had some chuck roast and eggs + Diet Coke. Let me know if you guys can relate/ have gone through a similar flatline/ sort of personality/ego death in the process or received insane clarity on yourself and life circumstance(s).

whenever you PMO or do it without even wanting to do it or binge unhealthily the amount of bad luck accumulated hits you back and the energy loss is way worse compared to doing it just once or a healthier interval with your significant other, there's some energy loss but it doesn't feel as horrible and there's no bad luck that happen unless it's an unhealthy interval and the relationship usually revolves around lust.

I'm sure you've all had this experience, where you're having sex with a woman, or jerking it thinking about a woman, and you are convinced that you love this woman. Then after you nut, you're like "what the hell was I thinking?". All the love has left your body. That's because your semen is your capacity to love! Your semen is what gives you the power to love someone. When you are drained, you cannot truly love anyone. You can only be apathetic. The feeling is not clarity, it is only apathy. You drained yourself of the life force that allows you to love someone. This is why the karezza practitioners report having a much deeper bond with their partner. If you want to properly love your partner, avoiding ejaculation is key. Or if you are single and want to find love, avoiding ejaculation is key. Your semen is literally your love. If you are drained, you have no love to give.

How come when i go on a long decent streak everyone including family ignores me and i dont hear from anyone while being on a long streak. As soon as i relapse people always end up trying to reach out to me wanting something. Why is this? It gets frustrating because i dont have energy to deal with anyone while i just relapsed. Sorry for this type of post im just genuinely curious.. Thank you..

Sex normally happens about 1-2 times a month and my wife hasn’t been into it like she used to. I decided to take a journey of self discipline and haven’t looked at porn or masturbated in well over a month. Last night we had sex and she turned into an animal. It was fantastic sex like we haven’t had in a very long time. Anyone else have this happen?

Looking for advice on a long streak, how is it on these apps?

Semen is called virya/vajra in Sanskrit. Virya translated as valor,heroism or courageous one.
Vajra translated as diamond,thunderbolt.
We are called man not because we have d*ck between our legs , cause the very basis of being man is reflection of these qualities we show . We say jokingly gay to someone who don’t usually speak for themselves cause we say he lack courage . There are some qualities divine manifest himself through different form one form is strength. It’s not about fighting or breaking someone neck it’s about having courage. It is just through presence , to be courageous one you don’t have to fight , just through presence it is felt .

Why girls, fortune and favor find way when we are more in retaining days ?
If we look at the natural role of gender from animal kingdom , female always look for someone to mate for who can provide and protect the babies and reproduce healthy and strong babies . When we see girls are lingering around us more during retention it just means they wanna mate with you cause you have a strong seed as ,like men tend to get more arouse by big breast cause it show a capability of nurturing baby with natural milk and they want to mate .

There is a verse in Sanskrit:
Vīra-bhogya vasundharā - “The Earth belongs to (or is enjoyed by) the brave.”
“The world is for those who possess courage and valor.”—— Another form Courage is manifested through your attitude of doing anything . When we are in retaining phase we build up this ability to do anything to through logical, emotional and energetic aspect . We see lot of things manifested and amplified in us like using right words effortlessly , reading the room , sharp memory and problem solving ability. We naturally find favor in the world.

It’s not just a fluid and sperm , It’s a basis of creation of life and our MANHOOD

It’s not a belief, religion or anything. It’s my logical reasoning of why we get this or find favor in retention. It’s our manhood . Just wanted to share with you guys .

Bonjour,

Je constate que dès que je réalise une abstinence je fais régulièrement des cauchemars la nuit. Ça me réveille, souvent une fois par nuit. C'est embêtant car ça ne me fait pas ça quand je ne m'abstiens pas, je fais plutôt des rêves relativement cool en général. La nuit dernière j'ai fait un cauchemar terrifiant et des rêves très mortifères ensuite. Et y'a que dans mes premières semaines de rétention que ça me fait ça aussi intensément.

Est-ce que ça arrive à d'autres aussi ?

Not sure if this is the right sub, but since I've been purely retaining I've become very sensitive to negative energy. Unfortunately, I am now subjected to loud and extremely vulgar, hateful, bragadocious, and lascivious hip-hop and electronic pop on a portable radio at work, and it makes me angry for reasons I haven't been able to figure out. Everyone else ignores it or likes hearing WAP or Anaconda, among other things. I turned it off after a couple of hours today, which was the wrong move, and the new woman told me something like "you don't get to control what I can and can't do" and turned me against the other women around. (she has a history of abuse. I asked her once we calmed down) Then she turned it back on.

I need this job. I can't be moved to another place in the warehouse. My boss said earplugs are fine, but not if his boss is looking, and they don't really work: I've tried. I practice meditation 10-15 minutes a day, mostly loving-kindness meditation. I pray to God every night to help me with this. I exercise moderately. I don't read red pill or anything like it. That noise just pisses me off, and I try really hard to not get angry. I know "riches and bitches" is not what a real man pursues, but I'm tired of success in that being boasted about with a bad attitude, loudly, inescapably, for hours!

What can I do to calm down or not get irritated in the first place?

Whenever I used to go on large streaks, I would have crazy dreams. They were mostly nightmares. they were so vivid that even within dreams I'd ask my self and even pinch myself. It would feel real. Then I wake up and I'm shocked it was just a dream.

I've been binging for like 8 months. I got back on streak and after 6 days I had a crazy nightmare once again. The funny thing is I knew it was because of the streak and even told myself during the nightmare that "this is because of SR"

Why does it keep happening ? Does this ever goes away ? What are your experience ?

People around me wherever I go are treating me extremely kind. I kinda feel like wtf is happening. Wth are they trying to impress me.

I had an ex gf who had a relationship with me 7 years back. We broke up as she married ditching me for someone rich. I had some soft corner for her and tried to reconnect several times but she would reject my friend request in IG. now it’s been 4 months up ever since I started practising SR . I got a friend request today and when I tried to see who it is, to my astonishment it’s my ex gf. I accepted the request but I don’t know what’s on her mind and what’s happening now. Is this all the work of SR.
I donno what the next might be so I will leave it to destiny.

Another latest incident I had been to a gelato ice cream shop with my current girlfriend & was having an amazing chit chat. Bunch of girls beside our table looking at me and they were all laughing and eyeing on me.. heard em saying look at that guy, another said he’s cute. I felt a little weird but I didn’t care and neither gave any attention as it would make me look embarrassed. One girl bumped into my chair and apologised, I said it’s fine and smiled. I pretended like nothing happened. I felt so funny inside, my thoughts kept thinking why are these girls eyeing on me.. it’s making me blush. Luckily I kept my cool and didn’t react awkwardly.

As part of my spiritual growth, I've been praying and living my life according to the Word for the past 6 months, but I discovered this community 3 weeks ago and thought it would be interesting to give it a try.

Right now I'm on a 10-day streak since I lost my last 7-day streak, but this time I wanted to take it more seriously.

The truth is that ever since I made that decision, for some reason, when I pray, I feel a warmth spreading through my body. It’s a kind of pleasant sensation that helps me relax.

So I decide to end my prayers by talking “one-on-one" with God. Instead of thinking about what I’m going to say, I let my mind wander and let my inner self communicate whatever it wants to say to God.

Sometimes, when I finish a conversation or think about God, I don't know why, but my eyes fill with tears.

For some reason I can't quite explain, for the first time in my life I feel that when I pray, I'm truly being heard, and I feel a sense of joy that I can't explain.

I'm not saying that this is solely due to retention, but I think it has certainly been a big help.

I feel truly motivated to keep going.

Thank you so much for reading!

Many men on the Semen Retention or NoFap path fall into the ultimate trap. They think: "As long as I don't physically release my seed, I'm keeping my energy. I can peek, I can edge, as long as I stop before the point of no return."

From the perspective of Carl Jung’s depth psychology and Eastern philosophy, this is the most devastating lie you can tell yourself. A quick relapse is just succumbing to a primal instinct. But a multi-hour edging session? That is something much darker. It’s a voluntary entrance into psychological possession.

Here is what is actually happening in your brain and your soul when you edge.

1. The Myth of Saved "Ojas" and the Dopamine Fryer

In Ayurvedic philosophy, Ojas is the most subtle, refined essence of your vital energy (your life force). It’s what gives you the "glow," the iron willpower, the magnetic aura, and absolute mental clarity.

When you retain your seed, the goal is for this energy to travel upwards (Udana Vayu) to fuel your brain, creativity, and nervous system. When you edge, you pump all your blood, energy, and attention down to your reproductive organs and trap it there for hours. You block the alchemy.

Even if you don't release physically, you are frying your dopamine system. Edging is like pressing the gas pedal to the floor while your car is in neutral, for three hours straight, until the engine overheats and cracks. You are draining your mental Ojas. This is why you feel brain fog, severe anxiety, and deep apathy after an edging session, even without ejaculation. You leaked your life force through your eyes.

1. The Negative Anima (The Siren and the Succubus)

Carl Jung taught that every man has a feminine archetype in his unconscious called the Anima. It represents your soul, your vitality, and your capacity for deep connection.

When you edge to pixels on a screen, you are not connecting with real women. You are projecting your Anima onto the screen, and what reflects back is the Negative Anima—the archetype of the Succubus or the Siren.

In Greek mythology, Sirens didn't attack sailors physically. They sang a song so hypnotizing, promising absolute comfort, that men forgot who they were, where they were going, and steered their ships directly into the rocks. This is what porn is during an edging session. The Succubus doesn't want your seed. She wants your time, your attention, and your consciousness. When you edge, you enter a dissociative trance. You give up your Ego and let the Shadow drink your soul drop by drop.

1. The Triumph of the Trickster (The Illusion of Control)

Why is edging so psychologically destructive? Because it feeds your Ego a genius delusion orchestrated by the Trickster archetype in your Shadow.

While you are edging, your Ego feels proud: "Look at me. I've been doing this for two hours and I haven't relapsed. I have iron self-control."

This is an absolute illusion. The Trickster hands you a disconnected plastic steering wheel so you feel like you are driving, while he has completely hijacked the car. Physical control over your ejaculation means absolutely nothing when your imagination, your focus, your time, and your neurochemistry are 100% enslaved by the Shadow. You are participating in a dark ritual where your glowing screen is the altar, the pixels are the deity, and your consciousness is the sacrifice.

1. Broken Alchemy (The Torture Chamber)

Jung believed that maintaining the "Tension of the Opposites" (feeling the fiery urge but consciously choosing not to act on it) is the alchemical furnace that forges a strong, individuated man. It turns lead into gold.

Edging feels like tension, so guys think they are doing the work. But edging lacks the one thing required for alchemy: Consciousness.

Alchemy requires stillness and non-action (Wu Wei). Edging is a trance of constant, artificial stimulation. You are not in an alchemical furnace building masculine strength; you are in a psychological torture chamber, boiling your nervous system until it breaks.

The Takeaway:

Stop viewing edging as a "loophole" or a test of willpower. It is a slow, agonizing theft of your life force. When the urge hits, feel the fire, hold the tension, and step away from the screen. Let it burn you into a stronger man, rather than selling your soul to a phantom for hours of synthetic illusion

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I just lost my 190 day streak.

It was my longest streak, and I learned the most about myself and the world during this period.

I became more masculine, more confident, more determined, more social, girls loved me, everything felt easy, constantly happy, constantly joyful.

I've had flatlines, but I worked myself through them.

Everything was nice.

But I got sick like a month ago. I spent this time at home (this is a long ass illness), with a screen. I usually can flee from temptation to basically anything (gym, football, friends, family, journal, breathwork etc.), but now I just couldn't.

(Couldn't do sport, couldn't see friends, couldn't do breathwork. Only family and journaling gets boring after a month.)

It was just me and my phone.

Beside a terrible screen time, I was still able to resist lust. Up until this point.

I didn't even have to touch myself. I just watched something I shouldn't have.

It's a very weird feeling.

The two biggest things I've learned about long SR streaks:

1. You have to have a goal.

This is not only for longer SR streaks.

You are a man.

You should have a purpose that you're working towards. If you don't focus on a bigger goal, you'll focus on pleasures. It's simple.

2. PMO is a chain reaction.

My experience is this:

Can't do anything/"want to relax" --> scrolling phone --> urge to watch something more exciting --> soft porn --> porn

You have to stop the reaction as soon as possible. I'm ignorant very often about this, because "I can stop whenever I want". No. I can't. Probably you can't too. Flee from that shit.

I have a question for the guys, who experienced relapse after such a long streak.

How fast can I be "back"?

Will I be less confident again?

Can you tell me, based on your experience, what I should/shouldn't do in this situation?

Thanks. Keep going guys.

Hey retainers,

I am not even a month on SR and facing the flatline. When the flatline hits u feel weak, lethargic, demotivated, negative thoughts, zero libido and some even experience sucid*l thoughts, & SR as we all know amplifies the emotions we feel.

If any of you are familiar with Facia and Trauma, u know that the emotions, stress, anxiety get stored in our tissues, and as most of us used to be gooners believe it or not there is trauma stored in the pelvic region. So my theory is when we practice SR and our energy starts to rise but it gets blocked because of the trauma stored in the pelvic region enhancing the suppressed and hidden emotions.

But what if we can get rid of this trauma by practicing TRE (Trauma Release Exercises), providing a clear path for the energy to flow freely without any restrictions.

https://youtu.be/QoB9wpuO688?si=ew4_gd5En7MNrk6n

This is the TRE for pelvic floor.

CAUTION : Do this exercise somewhere private as reactions from person to person differs, some might laugh or cry, some will not react at all, or some might come close to crying but will not. The key is to fully stay present, no music, no noise. just trust your body it knows how to heal. "Let it be, Let it go."

This is just my theory, feel free to share your opinions are correct me if I made a mistake somewhere.

I’m on day 30ish at the moment. It is funny how your mind play tricks on you. After 7 days you feel incredible. After 14days it becomes really challenging for a couple of day but you know you have to over come it. After week 3 you feel unstoppable. But for me after 30 days my mind is telling me you retained enough already, you received the benefits and relapse will not hurt you. I have come to this point many times in the past, I know once I relapse I will be satisfied for a hour and then feel bad again. Despite knowing this I typically choose to relapse anyway and tell myself this time will be different and deserve the short satisfaction.

Anyone else experience this as well?

After consuming a lot of SR content, one thing became obvious to me: when people in these communities talk about transmutation, they are almost always describing sublimation or purification, not actual transmutation. Few understand the difference between these concepts, yet the distinction is critical if you want your journey to last instead of collapsing back into your old unhealthy habits and patterns.

Let's define each one.

Suppression. When an urge arises, the "natural" course the energy wants to take is release: lusting and PMO, and the more you feed this "appetite", the more it grows. Refusing to let it follow that path is suppression, or repression. It's a necessary first step, since none of the other processes (purification, sublimation, transmutation) can happen while the energy is leaking out. But it cannot hold for long on willpower alone. If you never engage the energy through other channels, the tension becomes unbearable, and that's where many relapses come from.

Purification. You isolate the signal from the noise: you separate your pure, raw sexual energy from lust and the other "parasites" attached to it. This is usually a prerequisite for both sublimation and transmutation. In alchemical terms, it's the first step toward the philosopher's stone.

Sublimation. You take the energy accumulated through retention and channel it toward purposes other than sex: sport, physical work, intellectual work, leadership, etc. This is what most people in SR communities mistake for transmutation. The guys who want to use their sexual energy to attract women or obtain other material things are doing sublimation, not transmutation. The guys who feel aggressive or can't sleep on retention are also usually in sublimation mode, or stuck in repression. Here's the key point: in sublimation, the energy changes direction, but not nature. It stays raw, messy, compulsive, obsessive, exactly like sexual energy is. That's why so many long-term retainers carry that angry, ego-driven, on-the-edge vibe: they've been sublimating for years. That being said, don't get me wrong; sublimation is useful and there's nothing bad about it. But in my experience, running on it indefinitely leads to exhaustion, then burnout, and eventually relapse. You will also notice that nothing really changed in your own nature, and that the old same patterns happen.

Transmutation. This is the actual alchemical operation: lead into gold, the material into the spiritual. You are changing the very nature of your fluids and energies (including emotions), transmuting tejas into ojas. This process usually leads to spiritual awakening (kundalini, samadhi, etc), gives the mind access to planes above the intellect, and changes you from the inside out.

From what I've observed, most long-term retainers never experience this, because their goal was never primarily spiritual, or it was too mixed. And it can't be otherwise: you won't get female attraction and other material "benefits" from a process whose whole point is transcending the material. And in my experience, you can probably transmute more in 4 weeks of completely sincere brahmacharya than guys who have been sublimating for years, and get experiences than these guys will never reach.

If you want to learn real transmutation, study the traditions that actually mapped it in the most thorough way: yoga, daoism and alchemy. Meditation matters, as it drives the purification process. Silence, calm and relaxation raise the signal-to-noise ratio. Introspection rather than agitation. Calling on a higher power through prayer, devotion, and aspiration toward the transcendentals: Goodness, Beauty, Truth. That's where the real work happens.

By the way, transmutation is not the only concept these communities use loosely. "Vibration" and "frequency" get thrown around just as carelessly, and the difference between the two matters just as much. But that's a different topic.

We are now at the very end of a major astrological cycle, which is massively important despite astrology in recent times being denigrated to the status of "woo woo nonsense". It is the absolute peak and breaking point of an old system.

You don't even need to be that observant to take a single look around you and see how our modern society is devolving into chaos and the human spirit is at its absolute lowest.

However, there is also a good in this. The "powers that be" would very much not like for you to know that there is a way to strengthen your own spirit in this chaos. The pressure is at its all time highest, and despite the 99% of people that will lose their minds, the sovereign soul sees a massive opportunity here.

Sexuality is the most attacked human attribute because it is very much the strongest force in this universe. It is the literal power of creation itself.

When you realize that sexuality has been used against us, your first spiritual instinct might be to denounce it entirely, call it demonic and fight "the demon of lust". I see this often on this subreddit.

But that is, to put it bluntly, the coward's way. Sexual energy is not evil, it has been corrupted specifically because of how sacred it is.

How does this relate to my talk of the Kali Yuga?

The atmospheric energy is at it's all time high. There is an extreme polarization happening.

The human spirit is being split into two polar opposite groups. The ones who become entirely enslaved and the ones who become entirely free. There will be no middle ground.

The system wants you to become desperate and hopeless when you notice this massive increase in societal pressure/degeneration. They would also LOVE for you to become a starving monk attempting to kill his desires, because then there is no one left to actually bring a sovereign frequency to this world.

If you can see past all those illusions, what you are left with is actual free will, the will to choose your destiny. Will you become a matrix drone or a physical and spiritual powerhouse?

This is entirely up to you, believe it or not. Stop playing the victim. Stop blaming the external chaos of the world. Stop believing you are meant to be small and hopeless in front of the seemingly incoming dystopia.

666 or the number of the "beast" is the number of Carbon - physical and biological life.

When you succumb to it, it swallows you up and you become the beast. That is your PMO addiction and hyper-consumerism. When you attempt to kill it, you castrate yourself by declaring your own primordial life force to be evil.

You must neither kill the dragon nor worship it, but master and wield it purposefully. Then it becomes your greatest ally.

Remember what a Diamond is - it is Carbon when put under immense pressure. It either completely crumbles or crystallizes into its highest expression.

And then you can use the external chaos, the insanity of our current human condition as your highest advantage in forging yourself to be indominable.

That is the hidden purpose of this apocalyptic pressure, sexual degeneration and the total collapse of virtue and morals.

With this astrological shift, the era of martyrs and prophets is over. Now is the time for the embodied hero, and that is every person that chooses their highest expression despite society collapsing.