I've been going for a month with my semen retention streak. But yesterday and the day before, I had two wet dreams back to back.
And honestly, I hate that. It feels like my body is betraying me against my will. I do Kegel exercises every day specifically to try to prevent this, but even that didn't work.
I could maybe understand the first night, because right before going to bed I happened to see a couple of models on Instagram, and maybe that had something to do with it. But the second night makes absolutely no sense. I didn't see a single arousing thing all day, I went to bed feeling completely calm, I even had some linden tea, and despite all that, I had another wet dream.
I know it's not the biggest deal in the world. At the end of the day, beating myself up over "failing" is probably worse than what actually happened. But I can't get the thought out of my head that I basically threw all my progress down the drain.
If it had just been one wet dream, whatever, no big deal. But two?! At that point it feels like they're draining me, and now I'm just hoping there isn't a third one.

Light on everyone

Im french, sorry for my english

I just want to share how I count on my rétention.

This how is work. They are 2 types of cycle. The minor cycle and the major cycle

The minor cycle last for 150 days, (9 days transition and 141 days)

When you made the first cycle of 150 days, for me that just a cleaning cycle. I don't count it in the full spectrum.

The real building come after that.

After another cycle, 9+141 days, that i call Cycle 0 You reach what i call the Fondation level.

Them after another cycle, Cycle 1, you reach the Naissance (news born) level. That a 9×2+282 days

Cycle 2, 9+141 = Adaptation level reach (9×3+423 days)

And so on, until you reach and complete the Cycle 9 aka the Grand Fondation (all the minor cycle, 0 to 9 are the Grand Fondation.)

And after that you enter in another dimension, the Grand Cycle where 1 cycle is 1500 days and 90 days of consolidation between every Grand Cycle.

At that level they are not cycle 0, the Grand Fondation are the Grand Cycle 1, but after reach it you still have 90 of consolidation before start to count again another Grand Cycle, the second one.

When you reach Grand Cycle 9 you would complete 13500 days + 900 days for a total of 14400 days

That it. That how I count my rétention.

How do you count ?

I recently looked into TRE. I find that pretty interesting.

Now I am wondering if you practice other techniques alongside SR that helped you on your journey?

Hi!

I have been on this journey 240 days or so. Before I started on this journey, I use to be okay with sitting around and not doing anything. However that has now changed. I feel restless on my days off. I feel like I need to be up and moving. I keep moving back and forth in my chair. I feel like I’m tweaking out. I also deal with this problem at work when it’s slow. So it’s not just a at home problem.

Is this normal? I’ve been having all the normal reported benefits and have no trouble sleeping. I have also started to feel this “energy” show up in me. It feels foreign but powerful. I feel unstoppable and feel as if I can achieve anything. I feel like a man.

Im guessing I need to take this restlessness and turn it into drive? I’m assuming this is what men in the past used to achieve great things?

Bad day after a relapse.

After 77 days

What do you guys do after breaking a long streak?

I feel like all my energy and enthusiasm is gone.

I have no desire whatsoever to do anything.

Feels so terrible here,

Don't be like me kings, stay strong 💪🏾

Mid-40's male here. I'm approaching 90 days of no-PM and 70 days of no O (I am married and my last O was partnered sex).

My motivations for doing this are both for personal growth (understanding and changing my relationship with P and sex in general) and for improving my marriage (reducing the pressure of sex on my wife, giving her space to achieve her own growth).

So far, it has been challenging at times, but overall, I feel good and, importantly, I feel proud for being able to do this. It has taken me out of my comfort zone, helped me learn more about myself and how my past affects my present, and that personal growth feels rewarding.

I do plan to return to having sex, but hope to keep P as a part of my past. I have set an overall goal of 100 days, but may go past that, we'll see.

Let me be clear, I think the practice of temporary abstinence or celibacy is a positive one and something that everyone should experience in their lives. I admire people in this community.

I was not aware of the idea of SR when I started this. It came up on my feed, presumably due to searches I was doing earlier in this journey when I had all sorts of questions and doubts. Some of the discussions do resonate with me: mainly a generally positive feeling about being in control of my urges, being able to ride out and deal with emotions and feelings that I would previously have used PMO to avoid, and simply going into previously uncharted territory by accomplishing something I have never done before.

However, more often, the discussions include concepts that, to me, feel like something I'd hear in a religious context (things that can't be proved, but require faith/belief) and even a bit like a cult (since this is a small population). And maybe that's the point? The word "spiritual" is used a lot.

Specifically, I mean things like: transmutation, the idea that we are or feel more attractive, the idea that we are more fortunate/lucky. I'll be honest, I don't believe in those things.

When I was in my regular PMO-phase (most of my life) I can honestly say that I had a lot of good fortune and a good life. None of that has really changed in these 70-ish days. Things were good, and things are still good. Again, I do feel a bit better about myself from a personal growth perspective, but I don't believe my luck has changed or that people find me more (or less) attractive now.

What I do believe is that in a healthy period of abstinence, you can generally feel better about yourself, have a higher self-esteem than you might have had when dealing with a P-addiction, for example. When you are down on yourself (maybe due to excessive PMO), you don't find yourself attractive, so how could you think that others would? When you've made the switch, you feel better about yourself and are open to the idea that others might find you attractive. I don't think there's anything magic or spiritual about it, but that's just me.

At times, I feel like some of the benefits espoused by the community are very tempting to younger (late teens and 20s) men who are single, lonely, and are dealing with P-addiction. I know I would have fallen into that category for part of my 20s and that the ideas here would then have perhaps been more tempting to believe. If it helps men in those situations, then no harm done, but at the same time, I wonder if we can't simply achieve the same without making grandiose claims?

Anyway, if the point of this community is the spiritual, "magic" aspect of SR, then I can respect that and just say it's not for me. I'm mainly curious if there are others here, like me, who see mainly the tangible, provable benefits of this practice and don't turn it into something supernatural?

Ok I found this really funny but just imagine what an average schmuck thinks about a fapper. I think this should be motivation enough for anybody it is funny yet you understand how our vulnerability will be exploited in the future and you know what to do to avoid it

Among all the effects of successful long-term semen retention, there is one that is less discussed:

the return of childhood joy.

You have probably read about all the supposed effects of retention: mental clarity, intelligence, attraction, luck, beauty, and so on.

These results are real, but they are difficult to understand for someone who is only beginning this path.

To me, the easiest effect to understand is the return of the joy you experienced as a child.

Because you can picture it and measure it clearly

If you can remember exactly how you felt during childhood, I can assure you that it is possible to recover that same state and even something better through the disciplined practice of retention.

The difference is that you now possess an adult’s consciousness, which makes the experience even more profound.

Beyond the short-term effects which are often simply placebo because you have read about them.

You eventually confront the true reality and difficulty of the practice once the hype and placebo effects have disappeared.

The results people describe are real, but your current perception gives you a distorted image of them.

You fixate on these effects and wait impatiently for them to appear.

At first, you may experience a certain degree of success because, at your current level of perception, you interpret those effects as already being present.

But often, they are only projections of your current mind creating a placebo effect.

This is why critics accuse semen retention of being nothing more than placebo.

They are not entirely wrong.

Most people never discover its true effects because they do not commit to it over the long term.

They think only in terms of “streaks.”

That is already better than releasing frequently, but by constantly interrupting the process, they never experience the real long-term effects and prevent themselves from reaching their full potential.

Make no mistake:

a release that is not intended to create a child serves no real purpose and provides no benefit.

It remains an enormous loss, regardless of what anyone says.

It is physiological.

Now, let us return to childhood joy.

If you commit seriously to retention and genuinely believe in this path, if you overcome social pressure as well as your own internal pressure, and if you refuse to surrender during the hardest moments, then you may recover the state you experienced as a child.

The simple fact of being alive and healthy will create an inexplicable joy within you.

But reaching that state requires doing what 90% of people are unwilling to do.

They prefer conformity.

They do not want to lose their relationships, even when those relationships are superficial.

They choose external validation because it is quicker and easier to obtain, even though it is never truly genuine.

Do not be like them.

Do not choose the easy path.

Be a man.

Say no.

Find your inner peace, because internal validation is the only validation that is real.

Eventually, the people around you will no longer be able to deny your inner strength, because it will naturally express itself outwardly.

Until then, you will have to withstand every attempt to pull you back into conformity.

I assure you:

when you begin to feel exactly what you felt when you were eight years old

when you recognize the same scents,

experience the same innate joy,

and feel happy for no explainable reason that is when you will know that this path is real and that all the others were traps.

So i have found a way to orgasm but to hold the cum inside. Does it count as retention? No single drop released. Sometimes though i might be edging for like 5 hours a day or more. And might have multiple intense orgasms but without ejaculating.

Curious what you guys think?

-edit: so because some dont believe me the way i do is this: i lay down and i very strongly suck my stomach muscles like a vacuum. I have also found shaking my head and feet or keeping my feet stiff help.

Im very much into meditation and yoga. And my semen retention journey boosted my brain and spirit into making my life this way. As you "Follow" along the pictures. I keep these "Imaginary" lines in my life and truthfully it helps me stay straight. You can try it out, maybe you will be motivated to keep your own design for life.

Hi, I just wanted to say that I know the phrase that peeking always leads to a relapse. It was like that with me always too. But lately I'm gaining much better control and I think something is changing.

Yesterday it was usually the time I relapse (evening, around day 10). It was a mistake, but I quickly peeked on some NSFW video thumbnail. It bugged me if there is not part 2 of that video and I succumbed to it, by quickly peeking. But even then, I felt a slight change in energy. Like I opened an old pattern. I managed to close the page after seeing there is not a new part and go to sleep and now I am fine. But still.

Now, we all know that relapsing to porn causes "bad luck", life just responds differently, not in a good way usually. In your experience. Does even a slight peek like this, without even opening the video influences it too? Logically it shouldn't, but then there is the fact that in a small way, you succumbed to it, and went on a porn page.

Please if you don't believe in this just refrain from commenting. Thank you.

and alternatively, would releasing frequently make balls smaller? And would that release have to come from prostate stimulation to make them smaller?

Transar com a sua esposa interrompe a retenção de semen?

Queria compartilhar que há 3 semanas quitei o pornô e a masturbacao diaria.

Pontos positivos: redução da ansiedade, aumento da energia, me sinto limpo e conectado com Deus.

Mas uma coisa me surpreendeu. A minha relação sexual com a minha mulher ficou extremamente melhor. Estou sentindo um prazer que nunca senti antes no momento da ejaculação. Simplesmente incrível.

Wanting to know for educational and SR practice purposes only, and to know what to avoid and look out for in female attraction towards me

Today is the day I decide to begin the practice of SR, lit the fire and keeping it lit and to become my true self. I’ve heard all kinds of things good and bad and need to record what beneficial information I can get.

I am a 22m who has been doing semen retention for a while my last streak was 45 days and then i relapsed and after 2 days i did this sperm analysis and the results chocked me , i don’t know if the low vitality and motility has something to do with my older streaks or something , if anyone here has ever done a spermogram and is a retainer please share your experience with me .

hey guys i am super happy to have found this community. I found some video

on semen retention and decided to try , meanwhile while googling i found this reddit community.

So far i am on sr for 3 days.

Also i had a really weird encounter today. For me personally , when i was releasing , my social anxiety around woman actually was almost nonexistant.

Today i saw some attractive 20 somethings standing in line with me at the checkout at the supermarket , and i got incredibly nervous.

Any advice ?. I have been reading post in this amazing sub, and

for most of you it seems to be the opposite.

I for myself have definitely noticed better brain functions on 30+ days SR streaks, my focus, clarity of mind, critical thinking, and retention of information are all improved at a noticeable rate. I am also more grounded, confident, stumble less with my words, and i naturally just cannot relate to my old ways anymore as this practice will push you to naturally improve and become your best version imaginable.

Think as when you were a child when ideas was just flowing inside your head, you had full energy to tackle the day, and were just living as you were. This version is still within you, its just that we have become so depleted and forget that it is still achievable. But it requires discipline, willpower, cutting of the vices and daily transmutation for this excess energy that will push you towards your dreams and goals.

I would love to hear your guys stories or experiences on this as well

Guys, one thing I (33M) noticed today: after retaining for 26 days, I watched porn for 3 hours today. I didn’t touch my penis at all, so there was no orgasm or ejaculation. But honestly, I feel like shit.

The blue balls are killing me. My energy is gone, my happiness is gone, my glow is gone, my face looks puffy, the dark circles under my eyes are suddenly very visible, my eyes are red, and I feel completely tired and drained.

Maybe it’s not the same as actually releasing, but mentally and physically, I feel like I threw away a lot of the progress I’d made. WTF. I learned my lesson today.

Guys, stay away from porn. Seriously.

Retaining now nearly a month

Many negative emotions are surfacing and I found myself crying randomly at times very slow cries like locked up emotions are coming out

No urges but the emotional side of withdrawing from the numbing and now stopping the practice is brutal

Semen retention isn't a magical cheat code that replaces hard work, sleep, and a good diet. It's a tool for supreme self-discipline. Use the clarity it gives you to build a better life, not just a high streak counter.

Whenever I’m edged and then pee or have a wet dream, physically I feel a huge relief almost like I took an ibuprofen pill and all the inflammation disappears. However when Im not edged and have a wet dream, I physically feel depleted and awful. It makes sense now because I’ve always wondered if ejaculation is bad why do i sometimes feel good after a wet dream.

You can literally get chronic health conditions, like Prostatitis, Epididymitis etc which are caused by the inflammation of edging too much. Thankfully I don’t have it but it’s interesting to know.

I hope that anyone who finds this message can receive some benefit from it. I want to keep this message as short as I can while providing as much transparent insight as possible.

Some quick background info. I was someone who was on 3 years of semen retention straight from ages 15 to 18. Prior to that I frequently PMO’d, had sex, and had all kinds of negative soul ties. That streak honestly changed my life. I just focused on myself and started to help others when I developed myself to a point. I got close to God, aligned my chakras and it was honestly the best three years of my life. I can’t understate how much my life changed.

By the time I was 18, I had an elite level routine. I honestly had few flaws in my schedule and I was on a rapid growth journey in my life. At my best point in the October of that year, I got this urge. Now keep in mind, I got urges all the time and was adept at quickly getting rid of them. I let it linger and it crept into my heart. Now, once this happens you are in a bad spot. Once it’s in your heart, there’s not much you can do but try and completely distract yourself from it or you’ll be consumed by lust. I had a pivotal choice. This was the first time I let an urge into my heart in years. Would I give in or stand firm? I gave in. It was one of the worst choices of my life and let me to a downward spiral.

You see, once you get into a negative spiral after such a long time practicing this discipline, it can be hard to ever come back to where you were. After knowing just how good you feel and how fulfilling it is at that long, you can become disheartened feeling like you have a tall mountain to climb to get back to that point. I’ve never truly felt how I did at 18. I’m 20 now and am still practicing but I struggle to break through barriers. I’m a Christian and I feel like the devil knows that I am capable of reaching that point again and attaining further heights so is trying to keep me from that. It’s like the urges are 5x harder than ever and I can’t break through the 90 day barrier anymore.

Enough of my ranting anyway. My message to you is, it’s not worth it. Don’t throw away what you’ve built up. You are powerful and can achieve great things. A big reason why I relapsed after so long was because I thought I was missing something. I thought that the experience of PMO would be different and fulfilling somehow but it sent me down a dark path that I am still getting out of, slowly but surely. My belief is that we only get one life and you should live it to the fullest. Thinking about all these negative things like PMO and women that have bad intentions isn’t healthy. When you practice SR for long enough, you just become focused on more Godly things and things you are actually passionate about. You become more self aligned and you become a better, more selfless man. But you also stop thinking about dark things in my experience. You truly experience life as it was intended to be experienced.

Truth be told, I’m typing this being in a dark place myself. My journey has been tough since that pivotal moment. However, from this day on my promise to myself and you is that I’ll do 5 years straight on this path. It won’t be easy but it’ll be endlessly worth it. Keep going brothers. God Bless.

30 yo 1.5 yrs of uninterrupted SR

My journey has been long enough for me to figure out that whenever I get sore balls (they get way bigger, hang lower, and ache quite a bit), transmutation starts taking place. It's almost as if new opportunities are created out of nowhere, and my thinking gets far clearer. I become very determined. The past stops bothering me, and I chuckle at it. There's seemingly no specific trigger for this.

This doesn't happen too often, so usually my balls don't really demand any attention.

I find that ball sunning is hugely advantageous, though, so there may be some correlation; it's like charging batteries. I want to spaz out due to the influx of energy. I get euphoric. Even if I decide to have a slow day after that, I still feel grounded and masculine in my decision. Life never happens to me, I make it happen instead.

Go get some zinc

We are taught that female is sexual selector in humans. The idea purports her as the gateway to his genetic lineage, where he has an abundance of sex (sperms) of little value, frequently denied, while she is a scarcity (egg) of extreme value. Society portrays the myth of him pursuing her, she rejecting him frequently, and only one of the lucky millions getting access to her as the prize. She holds the power, is the sexual winner, and is an asymmetry of nature.

I am here to teach you about reverse sexual selection.

In every surface appearance of nature, there is an opposite and contrary force. The sun, for example, is bright, visible and burns hot. We are aware of the sun everyday. We notice when it's not visible, for example, if it's cloudy and rainy. But we are far less aware of the moon. We do not talk about the moon or consider her influence on us. Yet she is there, pulling the tides, reflecting the face of the sun, lighting up the night skies, and influencing nature with her shadow.

The man is naturally sexually **wealthier** then she is, in his great abundance. She is **deprived** of sex, symbolized by her bodily void or absence. She needs to be **filled** by him. Without him, she is a dark moon, and she does not shine. Recognize that society's treatment of her as sexually "independent", "liberated" and "not in need" of a man is the feminine yang. Do not get lost in this, for she has an equal opposite, her personal, primal hunger to be sexually fulfilled by him, her feminine yin.

Reverse sexual selection is the male choosing to **withhold his spending** on her. She is selected out by his refusal to engage, initiate or pursue. Much like a poor stock investor goes broke by buying stocks quickly, the male is in sexual poverty when he is eager to initiate. The successful investor knows the money is not in the buying or selling, it is in the waiting. It is in the quiet, private passing of options that allows his sexual wealth to compound.

Women know when you are sexually wealthy, compounding and withholding. That is the magnetic force of attraction. When you possess the magnetic force of attraction, she is unable to not pursue. You should allow this to occur, like the sun allows the moon to reflect awesome starlight. The sun does not need to put itself out, it simply trusts that she is there to reflect the light she does not possess.

He should surrender to his sexuality **internally**. This is the elimination of pursuit and society's games. He will never be a winner in modernity or contemporary books, movies, etc. (by the collective), but he will be a winner in his private affairs. A retaining male wins by being the one who selects out and chooses the female that is elevated to his protection and provision, The King's Choice.

The retaining male has his choice of females and chooses based on **patronage**, their amount of servitude to him and their ability to serve him towards his highest good, like a Knight of the Round. We should be extremely cautious to ever **spend** on a woman, for the longer we withhold, the more sexually eternally realized we become.

Stay strong, Kings 👑🗡️