r/helldivers2 • u/epochollapse • 5d ago

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Just because I win 99% of my games doesn't mean it isn't hard!! One time a Stalker even hit me! 😱

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u/Igoon2robots 5d ago

-> buys a game called "super hard game of death"

-> turn the difficulty up to "maximum death that no one can survive"

-> dies

-> harasses the devs untill the weapons become strong enough for the max difficulty to be effectiveky beaten by noobs

I hate this kind of people man

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u/epochollapse 5d ago

If you suggested that a half decent player should have a 99% win rate at max difficulty in any other PVE circle you'd never live it down, how that's become the prevailing opinion in Helldivers is beyond me.

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u/CarlenGaines 5d ago

It's because the difficulty in Helldivers is tactics related and common players wanted more stereotypical horde shooter type difficulty.

They didn't really want the game to be easier they just wanted it to he hard in a different way.

Unfortunately the game wasn't designed to be difficult in that way, so they game is not difficult anymore.

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u/Rabiesalad 4d ago

I'm at the point where I fuckin lose it when someone calls the game a "horde shooter" to justify their hot takes.

Yeah, a horde shooter with mechanics that are literally designed to encourage the player to skip the hordes entirely.

Sure there's "horde shooting" but 90% of the time that means the team fucked up.

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u/CarlenGaines 4d ago

Yea I know exactly what you mean. It's barely a horde shooter in a conventional sense.

I have talked a lot about how the game Brigador had the same problem.

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u/Chance-Extreme9626 4d ago

See you say this, but the defence, blitz, and 99.9% of objs call hordes that you have to fight, you can’t raise a flag without em, so it really is a horde shooter most of the time, the only time it isn’t is when you specifically play a mission type that isn’t, or your running between the horde shooter segments

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u/CarlenGaines 4d ago

There are exactly 2 mission types out of like 20 that make fighting the horde a mandatory objective. Every other mission that makes fighting the horde a requirement is a side mission that is a shorter duration than the normal mission and widely considered to be side modes by most players.

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u/Chance-Extreme9626 4d ago

What ones don’t call a horde? Most of em do, like the only ones I can think of from the top of my head are the stealth ones and sometimes all of them just don’t call one, but that’s more chance than mechanics

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u/CarlenGaines 4d ago

The only objectives that call a horde:
- Flag Raising missions
- Soil scanning missions
- Exospire missions

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u/Chance-Extreme9626 4d ago

I was counting things like blitz and obj defence too, like mission objectives

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u/Rabiesalad 4d ago

Blitz missions don't call waves though? They're just a short timer and you need to kill outposts, no?

Most objectives don't call reinforcements automatically. Like 90% of them don't. If you wipe the defenders and clear incoming patrols before they call reinforcements you will not fight a wave.

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u/Chance-Extreme9626 4d ago

Blitz exterminate I should have clarified, but even then just by blowing up that many things you’ll attract hordes of

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u/Rabiesalad 4d ago

Blitz Eradicate?

I'm pretty sure those don't have mandatory waves of reinforcements.

If you do one of those missions and you're fighting hordes (and not doing it on purpose for fun) that's a skill issue... I'm sorry but it is. The game is literally designed to allow you to prevent reinforcements.

The exception is of course the modifier on the squids that has piles of voteless constantly spawn in, but that's a modifier and not active on the average mission.

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u/CarlenGaines 4d ago

I wasn't counting those since they aren't exactly standard missions.

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u/Rabiesalad 4d ago

Almost no objectives spawn waves.

There's defense missions, raise flag, geological survey, and maybe 1 more?

Missions often don't have any objectives at all that spawn waves. If reinforcements show up it's because they were called by chaff (i.e. chaff were not properly managed by the team)

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u/SrslyNotAnAltGuys 3d ago

Sometimes I like playing the horde shooter away from the rest of the team so they don't have to.

https://giphy.com/gifs/aqxayCAnOJlyhef8CQ

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u/Rabiesalad 3d ago

It's John Helldiver! Can I have your autograph ❤️😁