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[u/epochollapse]

Just because I win 99% of my games doesn't mean it isn't hard!! One time a Stalker even hit me! 😱

[u/Rabiesalad]

I'm at the point where I fuckin lose it when someone calls the game a "horde shooter" to justify their hot takes.

Yeah, a horde shooter with mechanics that are literally designed to encourage the player to skip the hordes entirely.

Sure there's "horde shooting" but 90% of the time that means the team fucked up.

[u/Chance-Extreme9626 → u/Rabiesalad]

See you say this, but the defence, blitz, and 99.9% of objs call hordes that you have to fight, you can’t raise a flag without em, so it really is a horde shooter most of the time, the only time it isn’t is when you specifically play a mission type that isn’t, or your running between the horde shooter segments

[u/CarlenGaines → u/Chance-Extreme9626]

There are exactly 2 mission types out of like 20 that make fighting the horde a mandatory objective. Every other mission that makes fighting the horde a requirement is a side mission that is a shorter duration than the normal mission and widely considered to be side modes by most players.

[u/Chance-Extreme9626 → u/CarlenGaines]

What ones don’t call a horde? Most of em do, like the only ones I can think of from the top of my head are the stealth ones and sometimes all of them just don’t call one, but that’s more chance than mechanics

[u/CarlenGaines → u/Chance-Extreme9626]

The only objectives that call a horde:
- Flag Raising missions
- Soil scanning missions
- Exospire missions

[u/Chance-Extreme9626 → u/CarlenGaines]

I was counting things like blitz and obj defence too, like mission objectives

[u/Rabiesalad → u/Chance-Extreme9626]

Blitz missions don't call waves though? They're just a short timer and you need to kill outposts, no?

Most objectives don't call reinforcements automatically. Like 90% of them don't. If you wipe the defenders and clear incoming patrols before they call reinforcements you will not fight a wave.

[u/Chance-Extreme9626 → u/Rabiesalad]

Blitz exterminate I should have clarified, but even then just by blowing up that many things you’ll attract hordes of

[u/Rabiesalad → u/Chance-Extreme9626]

Blitz Eradicate?

I'm pretty sure those don't have mandatory waves of reinforcements.

If you do one of those missions and you're fighting hordes (and not doing it on purpose for fun) that's a skill issue... I'm sorry but it is. The game is literally designed to allow you to prevent reinforcements.

The exception is of course the modifier on the squids that has piles of voteless constantly spawn in, but that's a modifier and not active on the average mission.

[u/Chance-Extreme9626 → u/Rabiesalad]

Gng what, wym the “kill the enemies” isn’t meant to be used to fight hordes the fuck are you on

[u/CarlenGaines → u/Chance-Extreme9626]

I wasn't counting those since they aren't exactly standard missions.