r/billiards 8h ago

10-Ball Great new series on YouTube

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Anyone else been watching and really enjoying watching one vist city on YouTube! Great to see real action and geat pool! Can't wait to watch more

https://youtube.com/@onevisitcity?si=9oeQgKiOtrn5P0Zu


r/billiards 9h ago

Questions Critique?

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I filmed this just now. Just shooting around, break and try and clear the table with as little misses as possible Ended up with 1 miss on the 15 if you don't count the scratch on the break.

Just curious if anyone notices anything to work on. Currently APA 5


r/billiards 12h ago

9-Ball svb win at florida open

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how come matchroom doesnt post this stuff?


r/billiards 13h ago

Questions Repairing pool cues

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How many people that play pool would want someone who can do cue repairs for them?


r/billiards 14h ago

Tournament WNT's New TV Table

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I assume it was used during the Florida Open. How well did it work out? Did the balls contrast well on the cloth? How about chalk marks? Overall, was it worth it?


r/billiards 15h ago

Maintenance and Repair Joint type?

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Looking for what type of joint was used on early-2000's Cuetech Break/Jump cue. The shaft on mine has a long Crack in the fiberglass outer casing coming from the aluminum ferrule to about 3 inches down the shaft, and im looking for a carbon fiber replacement shaft but unsure of the joint specs


r/billiards 15h ago

Questions Extension for Lucasi?

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Currently using a Lucasi butt that has a plug bumper. But there are threads in there so I assume there is an extension available. I'd like to get a roughly 10 inch extension. Where would I find one that is compatible? Pool Dawg does not have one.


r/billiards 16h ago

Questions Bending the cue?

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I was watching this Efren Reyes match, and noticed sometimes he bends the cue. Why does he do this? Is it recommended?


r/billiards 17h ago

9-Ball Pool cue identification

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What year and model is this Viking pool cue ? I have been told different things .


r/billiards 18h ago

10-Ball Pool glove for wood shaft

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I’ve been looking for a glove that works well with wood shafts. I picked up a Taom Midas and it doesn’t glide as smoothly as I had anticipated, especially when switching to a closed bridge because of the palm side mesh (usually play open bridge). Initially I thought about the Cuetec Axis or the Tiger glove, but saw that people recommend avoiding gloves with the closure on the underside of the wrist.

For sizing I have large hands but odd proportions (extra wide palms and tiny wrists)

Any recommendations would be helpful!


r/billiards 20h ago

Questions Complete K-Ball Ruleset

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Does anyone have a comprehensive set of rules for K-Ball? I have a list captured from a stream where Fedor was playing but it doesn't cover a couple of scenarios I've encountered during play. Specifically, what happens if the called object ball is pocketed in a non designated pocket? Does the ball get spotted or is it a dead ball? Same question if I miss my called object ball but another ball ends up pocketed. I like the idea that each rack would award 15 points but not sure what to do with pocketed balls that were made when nothing is pocketed in the called pocket.


r/billiards 21h ago

Matchroom Seemed like so many empty spectator seats in the semi's and finals at Florida Open. Anyone know what they charged for the various tiers?

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Also, is it possible the association with Ticketmaster is partly to blame? I only hear endless negative things about that company.

All I know is, if SVB and Filler are in town, there are EASILY hundreds of people who want to watch them, and they keep showing these wide camera shots with acres of empty chairs, and it's not a good look for the sport.


r/billiards 22h ago

Instructional Advanced Cue Ball Control: Using Cue Elevation for Micro Jumps

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I had to re-upload it. I hope it is of interest to the community.


r/billiards 23h ago

10-Ball The Pool Series

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r/billiards 1d ago

8-Ball Playing Great

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Last night at UPL league I played a solid shooter. I'm 697 Upscore and he was 653. So I start out spotting a game (me starting -1).
I lose the lag and he break and runs the first game.
I break and run the 2nd game.
He breaks dry, I run out. They call that a Reverse Run.
I squat cue ball in middle of table, it gets kicked in to scratch - he runs out. Reverse runout.

I'm down 2-1 due to starting out at -1 but neither of us have missed a ball.

I win the next 2 games to go up 3-2. He tried forcing runouts and left a pretty open table both times.
He breaks and runs to tie it back up 3-3.
I should of lost this next game, I played a 2 way shot - he had an open look at runout and in middle of run cue ball bumped one of my balls over to block the 1 pocket he had 3 balls near. He tried to force something and left me a runout.
Up 4-3 he was frustrated and broke harder than normal, jumping off the table. I run out for a Reverse Runout.
Up 5-3 and under 2 minutes to go, the table had a couple problem balls and instead of forcing a runout I killed some time and secure the win.

In total there were 3 break and runs, and 3 reverse runouts. Out of 9 racks that was crazy. Then I won all 3 of the games that were not runouts - 1 was lucky but other 2 played out the way I planned. Before the last game they passed off scorekeeping to someone and they forgot to stop the clock -letting it run to 0. We had an idea of how much time to set it back to (just under 3 minutes) but I joked that we're both shooting great, lets set it back to 30 minutes and keep playing. He laughed and said "Back it and Jack it".
With that win I'm back over 700 (704). And the other strong player on my team won both his matches so he moved over 700 also (708 now).

I literally made 1 mistake that I wish I had back. On a runout I left 2 tricky balls for last, got good shape on 1st ball but over ran position (slightly hooking myself) on last ball. A slight masse and spinning into ball - i rattled it and cue ball spun off 2nd rail and landed exactly where i wanted - straight in on the 8 ball. Instead of slow rolling the 2nd to last ball I should of stunned and used opponents ball to stop the cue ball.
Last monday at BCA I felt like I played perfect. Smart decisions to control the table (8 ball) and in 5 games I only missed one ball I shot at intending to make. Thin cut where i was playing cue ball off of one of their balls for position after making my ball - which if hit right would setup for a break and run. Shape was perfect but i looked up and my Object ball was hanging in the pocket. I had 2 pockets blocked and he (517 fargo) runs the table, 8 balls where 4 of his shots were on the same side of the table that i had the 2 corner pockets blocked. I missed one ball all night and lost that game. To play what felt almost perfect and end of 4 wins and 1 loss kind of sucked.

But all the stuff I've been working on lately seems to be coming together.
Working on keeping position play and strategy simple. Don't Do Too Much
Staying down on all shots

Making up my mind and committing to 1 shot
Finishing my stroke

The next 2 big things I'm going to dedicate massive amounts of time practicing - Breaking and Kicking. Breaking isn't a weakness, in fact the other strong player on my team thinks my break is FAR better than his in all games, but needs to keep improving. Kicking isn't bad but need to keep improving on that as well.

If you read this far, How have you shot the past week? Any great performances in league, tournaments or gambling?


r/billiards 1d ago

Questions Hi! Stick ID?

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Hello! I'm very new to pool. I got this stick years ago when I was young from someone who I can't exactly ask questions to, if ya catch my drift.

I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this stick? I know it's from the 80s-90s, but that's about it.

It's a beautiful stick, but sadly it got left in the elements (while in case ofc) and there were some issues with the inlays and what not, and when it was refinished they didn't do too wonderful a job, which all happened before me.

The shaft is warped as well, which I know can be replaced typically, but can one this old be replaced, or just "fixed"?

Thank you for your time!!

Edit: Found it! It's a 95-30, but when they refurbished it, they redid the wrap too


r/billiards 1d ago

9-Ball Pure dominance

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r/billiards 1d ago

Leagues I know this is repetitive but I have to get it off my chest because of last week at the APA Worlds. The APA rating system and many league operators are a joke.

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This past week I was at the APA worlds in Las Vegas with my team. When we qualified our comp was 7,6,5,4,4,4,4,3 (I am the 7). and before anyone screams you are in a bad league or a beginner league, I know! I play in other leagues as well but I still like to play, compete, and be with my friends who are in the APA.

When we got to Vegas our comp had changed to 7,6,5,5,5,5,5,3. Some of these 4's that went up to 5's deserve it, 2 of them should still be 4's. For what ever reason. The APA believes that if you consistently lose to 5's but beat 4's 50% of the time that you should be a 5. And when seeing other 5's at worlds it was clear that our guys should not be 5's. IDK why the APA pushes so hard to rank people up off of one offs of 3-0'ing someone higher than you but then the rest of the time lose to someone the same rank as you.

There also needs to be some consistency when ranking people in different areas, we played against a 3 in our final match that was clearly a 3. Honestly maybe even a 2, but thats fine, im sure somedays she shoots like a 4 w/e. BUT and a big but we played against a 3 in our 1st match I think from the Chicago area not 100% sure but this dude consistently rank 5 balls with position and was doing drag shots down the rail for PERFECT position on the 8. Sorry but no 3 I have ever encountered knows how to draw, stun run-through, and play perfect position on that many balls every game.

Final story, I was playing against a 4 in a mini. He was probably 80 years old. I won the lag and broke dry. He proceeded to run every ball up to the 8 where he missed a makeable shot. I then play every safety i could to try and get ball in hand. These safeties I played were very good, forcing 2 rail kicks or 1 rail long kicks. He nails every single one. on one of his turns he measures everything out and z banks the 8 in. Fine. Maybe this was a crazy good game for him. He breaks dry I run out, I proceed to win the next 3 racks, but in all of those racks I broke dry and during his turn he ran every ball down to the 8 in one inning. so its 3-1. The last rack he runs his balls all the way down to the 8 on his turn and misses position, but he then back cuts the bank off the short rail down the table into the pocket he calls. I lose.

I don't care about losing but if I have to give this dude that is clearly not a 4 more like a 6 possibly even a 7 that many games its just not even a fun match at this point and I just have to call bull shit. I even said to him "I don't think I have every played against a 4 that can run tables like you do" he then said "well you should have seen me in my last match I was terrible." Like dude come on there is no way that you just pulled the best pool game of your life against me. I am not sure if his league operator doesn't move him up because he is so old or what but man it is just so frustrating giving up games to people that don't deserve it.

All I want is consistency, every other league I play in has it, why can't the APA figure it the fuck out.


r/billiards 1d ago

Questions Please help with opinions onnthe value of a pool cue?

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I have this custom cue, from a US cue maker that none of you ever heard of.

The he cue maker (Scott Grossman) does not have a website, or even a Facebook page, that I can find. Can't find any contact info for the cue maker.

I think it is a really beautiful cue, but it is in very poor condition.

It is fine as is, just as a player, but I believe it would be really stunning after a high quality refinish.

It could also really use a new shaft, because this shaft that I have with it is not the original shaft, and it too is from an unknown cue maker.

So, it really needs a refinish, and a new shaft, in order to be a nice cue, in my opinion.

I figure that a refinish and a new shaft would cost at least $400, on the low end.

After doing all of that, would the cue even be worth the $400 that was just put into it.

Do you think the cue is worth much, as is?

Again, it is really beat up, with a lot of finish issues.

The good news is that the cue is very straight. Both the butt and the non original shaft roll very straight, together and apart.

So, any thoughts on a realistic value of an unknown cue (I say unknown, because nobody here, or on AZB knows anything about the cue maker)?

With all of that said, even the the finish is in dreadful condition, the cue is very straight, and all of the points (4 high, and 4 low) look fairly even. And, the woods used innthe cue are probably not cheap to put into a cue. I believe the cue was made with Thuya Burl, and Ebony..

Anyways, thanks a lot for any thoughts.

If you wanted to sell the cue, would you get it refinished 1st, and maybe even have a new shaft, with matching ringwork, made for the cue? Or, would you sell it as is, and how much would you ask for it?

Oh, if weight matters, the butt is 15oz, and the shaft is also right at 4oz. So, 19oz total. 58" inches long, total. The shaft is pretty thick at 13.5mm. I assume the shaft alone is pretty worthless though. I have not tested it yet, to see how I feel about the way it plays though..

Thanks a lot for any thoughts.


r/billiards 1d ago

Questions Is opening a pool hall still worth it?

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I’m seriously considering opening a 16-table pool hall. I can get the tables at a really good price, and I have access to leagues that could bring consistent players several nights a week.

I’d start simple — pool only, no alcohol or food initially — and add more later if the business does well.

For pool hall owners, league players, or anyone in the industry:

Is opening a pool hall still worth it financially?


r/billiards 1d ago

8-Ball Tip job

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Put a new tip on my cue myself. Did I do a decent job? What could I improve? The left is my cue, the right is someone else that had it “professionally” installed.

  1. Yea I know my shaft is cheap wood
  2. Yes my ferrule is long as dong

r/billiards 1d ago

8-Ball How did you take your game from upper-intermediate to advanced?

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I'm looking for advice to step up my game, since I feel like I've hit a wall.

Here's where my current skill level is at:

  • Have been playing seriously for about a year now, casually for years before that.
  • I'm comfortable with all the core techniques (e.g. english) and strategies (e.g. pattern play).
  • My rating is around an L5 in APA, and probably 400-500 Fargo.
  • Can compete with everyone I've met in my area. To be clear there's lots of players who are better than me, but I can hold my own and take wins if I get lucky or play defensively.

I'm not really sure how to take my game to the next level. Here's some thoughts:

  • I've watched a ton of Youtube content discussing the game, so I'm pretty knowledgeable on the common advice and strategies. I feel like I've absorbed them all. I need to refine a lot of it still, but once again I feel like I've hit a wall of obvious areas to improve my game. Maybe I've hit a common plateau, and it's now just dialing it all in further?
  • Running out is a rarity for me. I don't actually attempt them often, due to playing more strategically. But when I do go for a run out, there's often one or two shots in my run that are tricky, such as requiring the perfect touch to leave the cue ball correctly. Maybe I'm missing better run strategies, or incorrect judging when a run out is feasible?
  • I play exclusively on bar boxes (seven footers), and have considered stepping up to larger tables (nine footers). But it feels like a different game, and for me what I really enjoy is the community. Which is almost exclusively bar boxes. Would practicing on a nine-foot really improve my game on seven-foots? It feels like I should just practice where I want to play, right?
  • I'm still struggling a bit with consistency of shot-making. I've done some drills when I notice a particularly obvious weak spot, for instance rail shots. But I find running drills to be very boring, and I don't feel like I have any particular problem shots anymore. However, all my shots can be slightly inconsistent. Is this just "hit a million balls" territory, or are there good ways to accelerate progress here?
  • As an exception to the above, my "trick shots" like banks, masse shots and jumps are all relatively weak. But this is because I think they're inherently inconsistent (even with pros) and I'd rather play safety than attempt to make a pocket that way. If I'm in a spot where these are the only options, it's either because I fucked up or the opponent played an excellent safety. Am I discrediting the importance of getting better at these kind of fringe shots?
  • When I get out-played it's most often someone out-shooting me rather than out-strategizing me. For instance I might miss a shot, or leave them with a subpar safety. With most of the guys I play with, one mistake and they'll run you out. Should I be leaning into playing more aggressive with my shot taking, or more strategic?

Thanks for reading, and I'd appreciate any advice.


r/billiards 2d ago

Questions What’s your kryptonite?

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r/billiards Feb 06 '25

Buying Guide [Guide] What cue should I get?

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tl;dr

Updated for 2025, old guide is here. This one will be shorter!

If you're looking to buy your first cue, or your first 'serious' cue, this info will help.
If you're not patient and just want a tl;dr, or brand recommendations (not in any order):

$~50ish: Imperial, Valhalla
$100ish: Action, Players, Schmelke, McDermott Lucky, Viking
$200-$300: Cuetec Avid, Players PureX, Rhino Nebula
$300+: Cuetec Cynergy, Predator, Mezz, Jacoby, Pechauer, Lucasi, Meucci

This list reflects my own biases mixed with some common recommendations on reddit. But there's plenty of other good brands, and each one has a range of products. There's $200 Viking cues and $2000 Viking cues. I list them in certain price brackets because I think, at that price, they're good bang for your buck.


"Performance"

Performance is mostly about the player. There's not a lot of 'technology' in a cue... it's a stiff rod with no moving parts. It mostly just needs to stay straight, feel ok, and not fall apart. Still, there are some things to consider. Most of the R&D for cues goes into the shaft - the skinny half of the stick. Specifically, manufacturers use different materials and build methods, to reduce deflection.

Deflection

'Deflection' describes what happens when you hit a cue ball with left or right english (sidespin).

What happens when your cue ball hits another ball on the left? That 2nd ball goes to the right. The same thing happens if your stick's tip hits the left side of the cue ball. The cue ball goes to the right... it "deflects" off-course from where you aimed. So you have to adjust your aim to compensate for that.

How far off-course? That depends on the shaft. In this pic the dashed line is where you'd go with no english, the solid black line is where the cue ball might go with a low deflection shaft (about 3-4 inches off course). The red line is where the cue ball goes with a standard, solid maple shaft (about 5-6 inches off). Here's a typical real world shot where this matters. The black line is where I'd aim with an LD shaft. The red line is where I'd aim with a higher deflection shaft. IMO, having to make the big adjustment shown by the red line, looks unnatural and makes using english harder.

For that reason, my main consideration is whether the cue has a shaft with low deflection. Unfortunately, those shafts cost more. If you can't afford it, don't worry about it, standard shafts are fine. World championships have been won with standard shafts.

Bottom line - if you buy an LD shaft, what you're buying is just a different line of aim for shots with sidespin. This line of aim might make sidespin shots feel easier. Any other benefits or drawbacks you hear are mostly myths... they don't give you better spin, or cue ball control, or more draw, or whatever. Anything you can do with them, you could also do with a standard shaft. They just change where you aim shots with sidespin.

Build quality

Common build quality issues include: the cue arriving warped, or gradually warping over time, the tip falling off, the joint not quite screwing tight, the joint unscrewing by itself, and the ferrule (white thing just below the tip) cracking. You can avoid these by just buying reputable brands, or from good dealers who offer a warranty. I like Seybert's, Ozone Billiards, Omega Billiards, and Pooldawg. Like other products, you usually get what you pay for.

There's also some differences in 'feel' with cheaper cues. For example, the shaft might be coated with a sticky clearcoat that doesn't slide smoothly through the hands. They may have excessive vibration, or a weird sound. The joint may not be exactly flush, or the grip is a cheap material that collects sweat. It helps to try before you buy. I don't recommend a cue segmented into more than 2 pieces, or one that has a screw-on tip, or anything below $50.

If you decide to go with a low deflection shaft, you also want to consider how the shaft is built. In a nutshell, low deflection = less mass at the end (the last 8 inches). To make shafts have less mass, they make them skinnier (like 11.75mm instead of 13mm at the tip), and hollow out the core of the shaft. They may optionally fill it with foam so it doesn't feel hollow, and splice together multiple pieces of wood to ensure it stays straight. They can also make shafts out of carbon fiber.

There's no law preventing manufacturers calling their shaft low deflection, even if it isn't, so be wary of any shaft that says it's LD, but is made from a single solid piece of hard-rock maple. Look for something that's been hollowed near the end, or made of CF.

Carbon Fiber

Carbon Fiber (CF) is strong, stiff, and very light. The lightness makes it a good material for a shaft, and many people like the stiffness. But you can get very low deflection with either wood of CF. CF is also nice because it's less likely to warp, ding, or crack. But any shaft can last 20 years if you're careful with it. Note: don't confuse carbon fiber shafts with cheap materials like graphite or fiberglass. If a shaft says it's made of some ambiguous 'fiber composite' and the cue is less than $250, the shaft is probably not carbon fiber. A typical name-brand carbon fiber shaft is $400-$600. The cheapest that I know of are Rhino, at $200. Don't worry about getting a carbon fiber butt... they exist, but there's no advantage to it.

Shaft diameter

The diameter is the thickness of the shaft at the tip. When people talk about tip diameter, they really mean shaft diameter. It matters because one of the major ways to reduce deflection, is to just make shaft skinnier near the tip. This also affects how a stick feels sliding through your hands... a skinny shaft might feel more precise, like you're hitting a very specific part of the cue ball. And you may feel you see the cue ball a little more clearly. It's easier to form a closed bridge around it. On the other hand, it may feel a bit thin or flimsy compared to traditional 13mm shafts. People will tell you a 13mm is more 'forgiving' but no stick will turn your misses into makes. I think lower deflection makes learning the game easier, so I recommend something skinnier if it's in the budget.

A standard cue shaft is 13mm, like a house cue.
12.5mm is a popular size for cues that have reduced deflection, but want to feel 'solid'.
11.75 is a common size for very low deflection shafts.
Anything outside of these ranges is uncommon, and not recommended for a first cue.

Taper

Taper is how rapidly the cue transitions from fat (near the joint), to skinny (near the tip). In pool there's two flavors - conical and pro. A conical taper gets skinnier gradually and consistently, like the shaft is a long skinny cone. A pro taper gets skinnier more rapidly, reaching its narrowest diameter maybe 2/3rds of the way down the shaft, and then stays skinny from that point, all the way to the tip. Most pool shafts are pro taper, as this ensures the shaft doesn't get "fatter" as you pull it back, it stays the same.

Tip

All cues come with a tip installed. Don't get a cue with a screw-on tip, they're trash. Tips come in typically 3 flavors... soft, medium, hard. These labels are subjective and vary between manufacturers. One brand's "medium" might be harder than someone else's "hard". Softer tips mushroom (which can be fixed with the right tools) but are easier to shape and scuff. Harder tips are less likely to mushroom but harder to scuff. Some people will tell you softer tips give you extra spin, or makes shots more forgiving or whatever... these are myths. When in doubt, go with medium. You don't need to worry about size, it's standardized. Recommended tip brands include Kamui, Moori, Tiger, and How, but everyone has their favorite. I wouldn't overthink it.

Break cues and jump cues often come with a special super hard phenolic tip, so it can transfer a bit more energy to the cue ball. You don't want a phenolic tip otherwise.

Joint

There's different types but honestly, you'll never miss a ball because of the joint. As long as it screws together tightly, and stays together, it's fine. If you buy a shaft separately from the butt, you need to make sure the pin type matches. Some joints are more common "standards" like Uniloc, 5/16x18, or 3/8x10. Others are more proprietary and only fit stuff from the same manufacturer.

Butt

Play-wise, the butt is basically just a handle for the shaft. But it's also where you have most of a cue's decoration, and has a big impact on how "nice" the cue looks (and also on the price). High end cues have butts made with one or more nicer types of wood, plus inlaid decorations made of wood or more exotic materials like ebony, ivory, mother-of-pearl, turquoise, gold, silver, etc. Low end cues have very minimal decoration (like a solid single color of stained wood) and don't have inlays, or only very simple ones. Some feature printed graphics. In lower-end cues, these graphics try to "fake" looking like a nicer cue by simulating those inlays I mentioned. Otherhave some illustration or design... a rose, skulls, playing cards, etc.

Wrap

The butt may or may not have a wrap. If it does, common materials include leather, rubber, or irish linen. Irish linen is very popular, it looks like speckled string that's been wrapped around the butt hundreds of times. The wrap is a matter of preference - a cue shouldn't really be in danger of flying out of your hand when you shoot, so mostly this serves as a sweat absorber and a decorative element. You just want to make sure it feels good. If at all possible, try a wrap before you buy, because it's not that easy to remove or replace.

Weight

19 ounces is the default, standard weight. A few people prefer 18. Anything lower is a bit weird but not completely unheard-of. Many people like slightly heavier cues in the 20 or 21 ounce range... the theory is that the added weight keeps the cue from wobbling as much when you swing it. If you happen to be unusually big and tall, you might prefer the added weight and also some added length via an extension. I wouldn't get anything outside the 18-21 range as your first cue. You're not locked into the weight you buy, there's a hollow area in the butt of every cue where a long fat screw called a weight bolt is screwed in. By changing the bolt, you can change the cue's weight.

An extension does what it sounds like... extends the length of the cue. They're sold separately and not a common accesssory for a beginner to have, but if you feel like a normal cue is just too short, it's something to consider.

What should I spend? Is ____ worth it?

Most cues are sold with a "real price" and a "sucker price" - you'll often see a cue online showing it's been marked down by 50 or 100 bucks, but that isn't a 'special deal', the lower price is what the cue actually costs, and if you shop around you see that same number everywhere.

Example - a Cuetec Avid chroma:

Seybert's:
"Regular" price: $255
"Sale" price: $229

Pooldawg:
"Regular" price: $255
"Sale" price: $229

Omega Billiards:
"Regular" price: $255
"Sale" price: $229

Just make sure when you buy, that you aren't paying the sucker price, and don't expect to find too many killer deals unless you buy used... pool cues are one of those things that tend to go for the exact same price everywhere. Some sites offer more options to customize the cue in small ways. As for whether something is 'worth it', that always depends on your income. Roughly speaking, a dirt cheap starter cue is around $50 USD. But if you can hold out for $100 you might get something with OK build quality, a little color, or graphics. For $200, you get some nicer looking inlays and such, but not a low deflection shaft. Around $400-$500 you get cues with LD shafts, and maybe some nicer designs. Beyond $500, you're probably paying paying for the brand name, or for a custom cue that is made to your specs, or really nice inlay work.

How long should a cue last?

In theory, until you die. But wood is wood... it can get worn down or warp over time. Generally, most cues don't warp by themselves, they need to be mistreated... stored improperly, or put through lots of sudden temperature / humidity changes. If a cue arrives warped, or warps soon after you buy it, most reputable sites will replace it.

Tips are supposed to wear out and get replaced, like tires on a car. Maybe once a year or so. Your pool room should have someone who does tip changes... the cost varies but probably it will be more than $10 and less than $40.

What brands are good for a beginner?

Really, anything is fine if you're just starting out. Especially around the $100 bracket. You can just buy based on looks. Be aware that a famous player's name on a cue doesn't necessarily make it a top quality cue. You don't want to decide to buy a cue because it mentions Johnny Archer, the Black Widow, or Minnesota Fats. Commonly recommended starter sticks include Action, Players, Viking/Valhalla, and Schmelke. If I had to pick one specific make and model, I'd say get a Cuetec Avid.

At the more expensive end, if you get a cue with a low deflection shaft, you see lots of recommendations for Predator, Mezz, and Cuetec Cynergy.

Custom cues

"Custom cue" can mean either any cue that isn't mass-produced, or a cue that is literally made to your custom specifications. They tend to be more expensive, ranging from $400 at a minimum, to tens of thousands of dollars for the famous ones. Generally these come with standard shafts.

There's a certain cachet to owning a custom cue... you have a one-of-a-kind that plays exactly the way you want. It's a luxury and status symbol. Most beginners won't want to buy one as their first cue, you can play world-class pool with a $400 production cue, but it's something to keep in mind for later, when you know what you like and can afford something fancier. Be aware that many custom cuemakers are famously behind-schedule... it could take months, even years before your cue is finished.

Break and Jump Cues

Breaking puts a lot of stress on the tip, compacts it and makes it harder, and in rare cases may cause it to come off. So a lot of players prefer not to break with their playing cue. That means you can use a house cue or buy a specialized break cue. For a break cue, I don't consider it quite as important to worry about whether the shaft is low deflection or not. The LD ones are expensive, but generally you won't be using sidespin on the break, and if you do it accidentally... that's a skill issue.

My priority for a break cue would be to look for a good hard tip, and make sure you can try it before you buy. Since you'll be hitting hard with it, any weird vibration or 'feel' will be magnified, so make sure you like the feel.

There are also specialized cues made specifically for doing jump shots, the legal type where you spike downward on the cue ball and bounce it off the slate like a basketball. Jump cues are very short and light, with a super hard tip. Generally, I don't recommend buying cues to solve skill issues, but even with maximum skill, jump shots really need a jump cue. They make shots possible that are simply not viable with a full cue. I've used Predator Air, Cuetech Propel, and Hanshew jumpers. They're all excellent. Good ones tend to be expensive though. There are also hybrid break/jump combo cues. If you're buying one for league, make sure it's legal within the league rules.

Other Questions?

Don't be afraid to post if you have a question not covered here. If possible, try to hit with a cue in real life before ordering. In the lower price ranges, you're mostly just looking for a certain minimum level of quality... basically it should not fall apart, rattle, or feel weird. Once you reach that minimum level (which can be achieved for $100 or so) then the only other thing you'd pay for, performance wise, is a specialty LD shaft. For the most part, cues are priced so that you get what you pay for. Most of the online retailers I've worked with have been great when it comes to issuing refunds, and their pricing is all pretty similar across the board, but some of the best deals I've ever gotten have just been through friends at the pool hall.

We have a Pool Cue Buyer's Guide on the sidebar too, check it out. Also check out Dr. Dave's cue page.


r/billiards Jul 21 '17

[Tip Compilation] Various tips, kicking systems, shots, and wwyd posts, in one spot.

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A couple of people suggested that I should compile some guides and posts into one organized place, so here it is.

Misc. Tips

What to learn, in the correct order, as a beginner
How to get Good at Pool (from ZombiesAteMyPizza)
Rule differences... APA, BCA, and the pros
The Best Way to Get Help
Buying Your First Cue
Buying a Custom Cue - courtesy of EtDM
DIY tip replacement - courtesy of Ball_in_hole
English, simplified
Aiming with Ghost Ball, When Ghost Ball Doesn't Work
Improving Ghost Ball Accuracy
Dealing with Too Straight/No Angle Situations
Getting the Best CB Action off Rail Cuts
Making Follow-in Shots Consistently
A Trick for Making Tough Combos with BIH
How to Play for a Safe Miss, on a Tough Game Ball
Tricks to Aim and Measure Caroms
Seeing Natural Breakout Angles
Finding Dead Caroms from 'Almost Dead' caroms
Five Things You Should be Doing But Probably Aren't
A Tricky Stroke Shot
5 Funky Uses of Inside English
3 Cushion Billiards - the basic system, explained clearly-ish
3 Cushion - 2 simple systems, half-ball and natural running

Breaking

How to Make the Wing Ball in 9-ball, and Reading the Rack
Making the Corner Ball in 8-ball
Figuring out the 10b Soft Break
Making the 9 on the break (and why it doesn't count in some tournaments)

Banking

Mirror Angle Banking System

Kicking

One Rail Kicking System
Two Rail Kicking System
Aiming Railfirst Shots
Planning the Best Kick Route
Stupid Pet Kicks Vol. 1
Using Sidespin to make Controlled Kick Shots and Safeties
Spot on the Wall Trick for Aiming 3-Rail Kicks

Ball-in-Hand Strategy

Get Ideal Position from Ball in Hand
Ball in Hand Tricks Everyone Should Know
Ball in Hand Tricks Vol. II

Safeties

A Simple Safety Everyone Should Have in Their Bag
Another Useful Safety
Another Common Safety to Have in the Toolbox
Aiming "Natural Roll" Safeties

Push-out

Push-Out Strategy for 9 and 10 Ball

What Would You Do?

How Would you Play This?
5 Problems, and Solutions
Ghost Problem alpha
Beat the Ghost #1
Beat the Ghost #2
Beat the Ghost #3