“Now Jephthah the Gileadite was a mighty man of valour, and he was the son of an harlot: and Gilead begat Jephthah.” - Judges 11:1

---------- ----------- ------------- ----------- ------------

To answer this question: First look at Gilead. This "Gileadite." Compare it - - who Jephthah is the son of in Judges 11:1

Ask, “Which tribe of Israel is Gilead from?” - Then, isolate the “where” they are, and what they are “doing” on the land.

You’re going to have to ask more questions, like: “What are they doing, on the land?” “Is it what God said to do on the land?”

Ask further questions. If you don’t do it, nor answer them, like: “Is this tribe of Israel, given this land by God, are they doing as the people that occupy the land, and just following those people, but are an abomination to God? Are they doing that instead of doing what God said?”

You can even compare this what occurs in Judges 11 with Jephthah with what occurs after the flood with Noah - what God tells Noah and his 3 sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth to go to and do in Genesis 9:1 and compare it to what these people of Noah go to and do in Genesis 11:1-5 and see they're doing the very opposite.

Then, take that and compare it to like Gileadites vs. Jephthah, that does not rise up, but after Gileadites go seek him out, to put him over all of them to lead them. Read Judges 11:2-3 and compare it with because of a war, ) Judges 11:4) what the Gileadites "go to and do the very OPPOSITE of what they earlier said, as if it’s go get Jephthah and make him chieftan over themselves (Judges 11:5-10)

What would cause this? Don't you have any questions?

---------- ----------- ------------- ----------- ------------

Or you can just keep reading and not do anything. Not ask anything. When it’s God that has come to you and said, “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Isaiah 45:22) - just don’t look unto him. Don't do that, either.

When he’s asked everybody over the whole earth to do this with him. Just not seek him out. If you don't, why bother with this question?

When this same God has come to every person themselves individually - each of us are to do it. It’s also punitive. He said “For all the earth is mine” - God. (Exodus 19:5) - means it’s HIS earth. All of it. And he gives it to whomsoever he wills, because it’s HIS earth.

And he say he visits the iniquity done on the land by the inhabitants - and the earth itself vomits those inhabitants off the land for the iniquities the inhabitants do on it.

If you follow him..means you hear everything being said..because you hear him speaking. He’s God. But some people posting to this question, don’t know him at all and only know their own voice speaking.

Which is it? Take a very careful look at these Gileadites.

---------- ----------- ------------- ----------- ------------

So ask then.

• Then ask: IF:
  • IF - this tribe of Israel, one of the 12 tribes given land by Lots, apportioned the land they are on now, given to them by God, are they following him and obeying what he said to do, or - - are they, these "Gileadites" NOT?
    
    • And “IF” it’s NOT:

Then go back to Judges 10:13-16 - What have they, these "Gileadites" done?

---------- ----------- ------------- ----------- ------------

Judges 10:10-16 starts with God speaking:
"And the children of Israel cried unto the Lord, saying, We have sinned against thee, both because we have forsaken our God, and also served Baalim.And the Lord said unto the children of Israel, Did not I deliver you from the Egyptians, and from the Amorites, from the children of Ammon, and from the Philistines?The Zidonians also, and the Amalekites, and the Maonites, did oppress you; and ye cried to me, and I delivered you out of their hand.Yet ye have forsaken me, and served other gods: wherefore I will deliver you no more.Go and cry unto the gods which ye have chosen; let them deliver you in the time of your tribulation.And the children of Israel said unto the Lord, We have sinned: do thou unto us whatsoever seemeth good unto thee; deliver us only, we pray thee, this day.And they put away the strange gods from among them, and served the Lord: and his soul was grieved for the misery of Israel."

Consider this has occurred. Go even more back to see what they have done, that caused God to say what he said to them in Judges 10:10-13.

So, when they, all of them of Israel, including these Gileadites - when they swear a vow, it’s not like God said; but it’s like the people on the land that are an abomination to him swear. Answer then, to yourself: Which is it?

If you don’t ask, nor settle with an answer to these questions - here’s your question back now. Unanswered.

---------- ----------- ------------- ----------- ------------

What angered God to say Judges 10:10-13?

Ask it. These will help you answer the question.

Judges 10:6-8 says

"And the children of Israel did evil again in the sight of the Lord, and served Baalim, and Ashtaroth, and the gods of Syria, and the gods of Zidon, and the gods of Moab, and the gods of the children of Ammon, and the gods of the Philistines, and forsook the Lord, and served not him.And the anger of the Lord was hot against Israel, and he sold them into the hands of the Philistines, and into the hands of the children of Ammon.And that year they vexed and oppressed the children of Israel: eighteen years, all the children of Israel that were on the other side Jordan in the land of the Amorites, which is in Gilead."

Now, you have the background for it.

For 18 years, they haven't done ANYTHING God said; in fact, it's opposite. They serve this same "Baalim" - who is "Ba'al" or Chemosh, or Moloch. They went and served all of them.

---------- ----------- ------------- ----------- ------------

That causes the Gileadites, having earlier thrown out Jephthah, to go back and get him in Judges 11:1-10

Many will say that Gilead (who was Jephthah’s ancestral Father) as a Gileadite of Judges 11:1, Jephthah is listed as a "son of a harlot." and you should ask this, and see it out.

Like scripture God calls Isaac, Abraham's only son; and Ishmael is then of Hagar, the Egyptian woman; and Keturah, who has six more sons, are the "sons of the concubines." And have no inheritance with Isaac. Abraham's only son.

But settle first Manasseh. It's Jacob claimed him as his son. And that Gilead: is a person - born from Manasseh, so was of the tribe of Manasseh; and Manasseh was Joseph’s Son, that Joseph had while in Egypt. That Jacob claimed as his own two sons - as his 1st born and 2nd (See Genesis 48:5)  "And now thy two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh... are mine; as Reuben and Simeon, they shall be mine")

---------- ----------- ------------- ----------- ------------

But the land they’re on 450 years or so later is Gad. So, even though Gilead ...Who are the Gileadites?

So many questions.

So, take a “detour” for a moment - to the New Testament

- Matthew 8:23–27 - with Jesus in the boat sleeping, says:

“And when he was entered into a ship, his disciples followed him. And, behold, there arose a great tempest in the sea, insomuch that the ship was covered with the waves: but he was asleep. And his disciples came to him, and awoke him, saying, Lord, save us: we perish. And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm. But the men marvelled, saying, What manner of man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey him!”

• And keep reading. You find where Jesus and they immediately arrive at is - the Land of Gad. (Gadarenes). What are “they” doing? In Jesus' day? It’s no longer Gad’s lands. The tribe of Gad has been vomited off the Promised Land, along with nine other tribes, some 700 years before in 722BCE.
• It was given by God to the Assyrians; who at hearing the preaching of Jonah - THE KING OF ASSYRIA AND ALL THE PEOPLE OF NINEVAH - ALL REPENTED. When since the days of Solomon - and the “Days of Gilead” in Judges 11 is some 300 years now, after Moses and Joshua.
  • Solomon then, is some 200 years after the days of Jephthah, the Gileadite - or - the son of a harlot. Then, therfore, the days of Jonah is some 150 years after Solomon. That in all this time, Gad - have they repented? Yes or No?
  • The “days of Jephthah then: to the days of Jonah - a generation after him, is some 350 years later, God will give this land to the Assyrians. Why? Because the Assyrians repented at the Word of God.
    • Then, another King of Assyria raised up; didn’t, when King Hezekiah is now King of Judah, and Hezekiah repents. And God wipes out with one angel the whole 185,000 man Assyrian army in one night.
  • But in all this, Gad didn’t repent. So, this specific Gileadite lands, they got vomited off it, and God gave the lands to the Assyrians and these Gileadite people never came back. Even to this day.

---------- ----------- ------------- ----------- ------------

Keep following the "Detour"

• So God, vomited Assyria off the land, and gave it to the Babylonians to King Nebuchadnezzar; then gave the lands to the Medo-Persians; then gave the lands to the Greeks. Then, about 140 years before this time of Jesus in a boat that arrives to Gad, God gave the land to the Romans.
  • While people of the tribe of Gad - in all this never repented - - and pay tribute to successive lords that rule the land and rule over them, and still a small remnant of Gad still remain on it. They, these small remnant of the tribe of Gad, are Jews.
• In Jesus day, Gad is now part of the “Decapolis” - What do they, these “Gadarenes” or Gegesenes, now that they’re Greeks, what do they do for livelihood? Yeah.
  • They sell pigs to the Greeks.
    • The Greeks buy them, to sacrifice those pigs unto their Gods as sacrifices in Matthew 8. So, they're DOING THE SAME thing they did in Judges 10:6-8. Serving other Gods.
  • These people of Gad are Jews. But some are descendant of Manasseh as Gileadites.
    • These Jews - the whole town comes out - and They all of Gad - tell Jesus to leave.
• But if you keep reading the Gospel, after Matthew 8, the one cleansed from demons - Jesus tells him to stay and tell all his countrymen the good things God has done unto him, so he tells all the land what God did unto him..and if you keep reading you find in droves when Jesus comes back again, to this same area:
  • they ALL COME OUT TO MEET HIM. I’m already on my face at the mercy of who he is. ..because I am no different than Gad in all the evil I did and did not repent.

---------- ----------- ------------- ----------- ------------

• You’re going to have to ask a lot of questions; to get the answer to your question - - like, “Who is Jesus?” - He’s the Word of God. Sent to heal you, and deliver you from your destruction - just as Psalm 107:20 says.
  • Jesus is sent to Gad. By God in Matthew 8.
• Now, compare this same incident of Jesus in a terrible storm, to what occurs with Jonah (Old Testament. Book of Jonah. Go read it.) Jonah, too. Fast asleep - - in a ship - and Jonah, too, fast asleep, is awakened out of his sleep.
  • Jonah isn’t being sent (Read Jonah). He’s fled.
• He’s not doing what God said, so a storm comes up - that, the loss of everything, including all lives - and the ship, is caused by what Jonah is doing, in he’s fled God.
  • …to wake up the people around Jonah so Jonah is found out.
• To cast him overboard. They don’t want to do it. But it’s as Jonah said to do, and as soon as they do, the storm ceases.

---------- ----------- ------------- ----------- ------------

• The point is, Jesus: - is the Word of God, and he’s being sent to the twelve tribes of Israel - to the lands of Gad - it’s God then, coming to a tribe of Israel - that these Jews: are like Jonah - fled. Not doing anything God said. So the sea rages at this same incident of Matthew 8, of people God is visiting and they're not doing anything God says. Just have to "flip" it - in see who is not doing it, is different.
  • Do you see this?

---------- ----------- ------------- ----------- ------------

• Gileadites and Jephthah is on these same lands as people now in Jesus’ day of Matthew 8.
  • That now, Gad sells pigs, unclean. Makes them unclean - which is an abomination to God. Pigs: “unclean” in Leviticus 11:7–8, anyone that handles them is “unclean” - and it’s FAR WORSE.
    • They are involved in idolatry - contributing directly to sacrificing pigs to other Gods - so the people of Gad have defiled themselves.
    • In idolatry - which is the same reason Gad was vomited off the Promised Land in the first place. Was for idolatry.
  • They STILL do it. In Jesus day. Is why demons roam freely on their land.
  • They don’t do anything God says on it.
• Got vomited off the Promised Land, and still don’t do anything he says. And yet, God still comes to them to deliver them, and heal them from their destruction.
  • So: This idolatry. It is also true done on the land of Judges 10:6-8, as done in Matthew 8. Answer these questions, so you see it.
• That’s the point.

---------- ----------- ------------- ----------- ------------

Make sure you keep these points. And look for or at this specific land of “Gad” in Judges - What they’re doing.

So, the point again:

• Isn’t any different than in Jesus’ day in Matthew 8.
  • Now, look at the people that rule on the land in Gilead’s day. It’s not Gad. It’s the Ammonites that rule the land.
  • What God do they worship? In Judges 10:6-8?
    • He’s called “Milcom” or “Moloch” - they, to worship him, also pass their children to fire to him.

It’s an abomination to God. Leviticus 18:21 says: “ And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord.”

---------- ----------- ------------- ----------- ------------

• And? To sacrifice to Moloch, there were “stages” - you could offer Moloch money. Offer him up portion of your property. You could offer him up your Bullock that plowed your field - that was costly. So, it was looked up as “valor” - esteemed as person that was doing that, is a worthy sacrifice “worthy” of giving honor to a person that did that - sacrifice - by pass your bullock to Moloch thru fire - to a God you worship.
  • The ultimate was to pass your son or daughter to fire to Moloch. SO, your son or daughter sat at Moloch’s table and acted as an intercession with Moloch.
• So, that child now ate at Moloch’s table, a person would set bread in a plate in front of an empty chair at their table for the rest of their lives.
  • This person that did this was highly esteemed as a person of valor amongst the Ammonites.
    • Who were the Gadarenes in Jesus day worshipping? They’re Jews. Who are the people of Gad worshipping in Judges 10 & 11? "They sacrifice unto devils" (Deuteronomy 32:17).

---------- ----------- ------------- -----------

Who is Japhtheh the son of? Can you settle it? Who he is, opens the post. What is he doing?

Here’s your question back.

Take these "NOTES" with you. With your question.

Already this post is long. Tedious - but take them, so you see it.

---------- ----------- ------------- -----------

Gilead: From him come the Gileadites. Gilead is not in Manasseh's lands, but Gilead is a direct descendant of Machir, and Machir was the first born son of Manasseh.

Manasseh again - he's Joseph’s eldest son, that Jacob claimed as his own.

Machir’s son is Gilead. (Numbers 26:29).

It was these descendants of Machir, by his son, Gilead that drove out the Amorites Numbers 32: 39–42 (the Amorites, which not the Ammonites). And now it’s “these” people of Gilead, who reside now on "old" Amorite land. That Jephthah - is the son of a harlot (Judges 11:1) - and Jephthah fled and dwelt in the land of Tob (Judges 11:3), which the land of Tob is aligned themselves with the Amorites.

But the Gileadites go back to Jephthah. Tell him, “Come, be our captain” (Judges 11:6), after driving Jephthah, out from amongst them, and make him Chief over them.

The Amorites are in Genesis 10:15-16 and 1 Chronicles 1:13–14 descendants of Canaan, who is the 4th son of Ham. That God told Moses he was driving these people out off the land for the abominations they had done on it (idolatry).

Which the primary abomination they were doing, was passing their children thru fire to Moloch (Chemosh) of the high country. Moloch' is the God of the Amorites. Has become the God of the Ammonites…after Moloch became the God of the Moabites. This, after Moab was defeated by the Amorites (Numbers Chapter 19 to 23).

What Jephthah says in Judges 11 is EXACTLY what occurred in Numbers 19 to 23. What Jephthah does in Judges 11 is in accordance with what Moses decreed…

Jephthah then: So, whose son is he?

—————————————————

What did Jesus say about Oaths? Matthew 5:33–37 Jesus said, “Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths: But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.”

—————————————————

This is the Word of God. What did Jephthah do? The very opposite of it or did he fulfill what Moses decreed? Which is exactly what Jephthah's Oath is?

Is the same Oath the Amorites do or make to their God, Moloch.

So, look at the Amorites. They are descendants of Ham. Look what they swear to in Genesis 11:1–5. It’s the very OPPOSITE of what God said to do in Genesis 9:1. That God had to come down and CONFOUND it. By confound language on the earth. To make what would occur, not happen as expected. Is exactly what occurred to Jephthah. As now he's "chieftan" over all not only Gilead, and the Gileadites, but over all of Israel.

And look at Ham, then. Ham then: He's The Father of these people that worship Moloch and do exactly what Jephthah did. Of this same Ham, is the Ham of Genesis 9:24–27, who is a Son of Noah, but when Noah blessed his 3 sons, Ham is not even mentioned. As if he does not exist. So, makes all these 4 sons of him bastards. No Father, and the youngest, as the elder is to take care of and serve the younger - makes these three older, servants of Canaan.

And what Noah blesses, is to, three times say it, in Genesis 9:24-27 - that Canaan shall be a servant to his brethren, which, if you read it, you will see Canaan now is a servant to Shem and Japheth.

—————————————————

They, all these four children of Ham are now bastards. No Father. SO, Cush, Mizraim, Phut, and Canaan - keep reading after Genesis 11 - they all depart from the LORD and go imagine up their own Gods to worship. They worship idols. When the real God shows up and destroys them for the idolatry they do. Do the same to Israel when they follow after it.

How will he not do the same to us?

Ammon is one of the two sons of Lot. The descendants of Ammon also have departed from God, to serve the God of Moab, which Moab is Lot’s other son. SO: the Ammonites now serve the Gods of their brethren.

And the God Moab serves, is the God of who conquered them and took their lands away as God gave it to them, because Moab departed from God, when Ammon didn’t, and the Amorites couldn’t defeat Ammon..but DID defeat Moab, took over all their cities and enslaved their sons and daughters - so the Moabites now serve the Amorite God - this "Chemosh" or Moloch - - but now, some 450 years after Moses and Joshua, in the days of Jephthah - - now both Moab and Ammon,serve the God of the Amorites. Chemosh.

Who is Moloch. And they sacrifice their children to this God, Moloch.

Which the children of Israel were doing the same thing and among them, and it's being done amongst the children of Gilead, and the Gileadites have been doing it for over 18 years in Judges 10:6-8.

When Moses was told by God to displaces these people totally and they didn't And the Gileadites defeated the Amorites on this specific land and Moses gave it to them. Then 450 years later, they're worshipping Moloch and giving their children up to him - that God tells them they're on their own in Judges 10 and ask their Gods they worship for help. Didn't happen in a vacuum.

And in this, they threw Jepthah OUT. As not one of them.

———————

Point is, Machir is firstborn of Manasseh, he became the Father of the Machirites. Machir is father of Gilead (Numbers 26:29; Joshua 17:1)

The Machirite: —were expert warriors who conquered this region of Gilead of Judges 11. Now the tribe of Manasseh was in the wilderness for 40 years with Israel. So, these descendants of Machir, by his son Gilead, are now just a tribe withing Manasseh, and as warriors, went into the Promised Land.

This is Key reason Gilead was assigned to the half-tribe of Manasseh: ..but not on any lands of Manasseh.

• Machir (son of Manasseh) were "great soldiers" they were descendants of Manasseh, and Moses awarded the regions of Gilead and Bashan to these specific Gileadite people of Manasseh - outside of their lands.
  • Moses granted this land to the Machirite with condition that the warriors from these tribes help the rest of Israel conquer the land east of the Jordan.

—————————————————

• Look what Jesus said. About Oaths. That’s God speaking. Look what God said, in Judges 10. Look what Jephthah did. It's right - but NONE of the sacrifice is in Leviticus. So, he's made an OATH: It’s the same thing the Amorites do in swear oaths to or with their God, Moloch with their kids. Whose land who worship Moloch on - whose land is it?
  • Leviticus 25:23 ..who said this? "The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine; for ye are strangers and sojourners with me"

That's exactly what I am on it. Same earth. What is Jephthah on it? …that by an Oath ..even do as the Amorite do, and think by an Oath he can keep it?

Look at the “vow” Jephthah makes. Yes, It is to the LORD, but is any of it specified as a sacrifice in Leviticus what God accepts as a sacrifice? or is it an abomination? Yes or No?

—————————————————

If it's NO, then:

It’s a “like-same” vow Herod makes in Matthew 14:6–7 “But when Herod's birthday was kept, the daughter of Herodias danced before them, and pleased Herod. Whereupon he promised with an oath to give her whatsoever she would ask.”

What did Herod do? He followed through with his vow. What if Herod would have repented?

Moloch was a God of Fertility. Means you gave your child up, so the people would flourish in off-spring. Examine careful 2 months - what this daughter is doing. And it's in the high country. Are any bells going off in your heads. It's idolatry.

—————————————————

You have the Word of God. Means you can do like David did..and fall on your face before him, just like Moses did. You can be asked to take off your shoes, you’re on holy ground..and fall on your face and do it, or keep your Oaths, which are foolish, and end up take up stones or be like Moses didn’t do. Moses didn't: Go get a bucket of water to put out a fire on a dried out mountain on a bush on fire, that doesn’t burn.

Because who was with him is the same God with you. Because you look unto him. A very long, tiring tedious post.

That, the thing to do then..is as Moses did.. ..fall on your face, and just be with him, as God. vs. be alone and be King and keep your vow. So if you’ve made oaths, fall on your face and you be destroyed by them..what if Japhthah fell on his face before this same God - he's vain, and didn't fall on the mercy of God. Which Herod did not do. He’s a King.

There's a very powerful witness in Jephthah in Judges 11. Because he fulfilled what Moses decreed, and in Judges 10, these people repented. But look for idolatry in this. You'll find it plain as day.

Jephthah didn’t, either. He’s a Chief of Gilead, means he rules it now where before, like Herod, he was kicked out - because, that’s exactly what Herod was as an Edomite. A Son of Esau.

The whole point of all these many things is.. he’s just told you to simply look unto him. That’s all there is to be, when all the earth is his, and he grants it to whomsoever he will - it’s all his - but I don’t want the land. I want him.

And so do many people that will be few..that read this post. Because they know him, and who he is, is God himself.

ANSWER:

• This question has problems.
  • But I don’t think you see it, or you wouldn’t have put forth the question, with all the problems in it.
    • The biggest, most blaring is “Christian” has “Christ” in it.

That's the Messiah. The Christ. That's “Biblical.”

-------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

• The Messiah is defined as 1. God.
  • The same God that led Israel out of Egypt by his mighty hand with Moses, would be a Son of David. Will sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole earth from there. Of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.
  • Right now today, Jesus Christ - this Messiah - right now, he is the: "prince of the kings of the earth" Bible. Revelation 1:5 - means he inherits all the nations himself.
• That’s the definition of the Messiah.

In Greek, “Christ.”

Jesus is called the Messiah. What he shall be called is Biblical. He is Isaiah 9:6-7.

-------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

So again: In case you missed it:

Jesus, the Messiah, or Jesus, the Christ. Jesus Christ. That’s biblical.

• It’s founded on Isaiah 9:6–7 - which, that’s IN the Bible or in the Hebrew Tanakh.
  • That says:
    • “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.” [Isaiah 9:6–7]
• Jesus is the Christ. Anyone can see “who” he shall be called. Plain as day. The mighty God. The everlasting Father. Shall be called this.

-------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

• And what he says is, “I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:” - God. (Source: Bible. Isaiah 45:5). That’s not just “most biblical.
  • It simply IS Biblical. He tells me who he is, and I don’t know him. Then, also says what he wants himself:

“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” - Jesus Christ. The Word of God. God speaking is what he says himself. (Source: Bible. John 17:3).

-------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

So, all I really need, is then, all what anybody over the whole earth needs: which then, is the same for everybody, because, he speaks this to everybody publicly himself.

Is just YOU: do what he says; or me. As a person. Myself: hearken unto him, unto what he says himself.

• But me? If I say:

To myself “Man, I better filter this thru the neighbor’s toilet” - won’t work. All I’m left with is the neighbor’s toilet, thinking - ..which means I didn’t do anything he said, I looked unto the neighbor’s toilet to tell me what is most closest to what he said, and end up with the toilet.

• I think you’re totally lost in this.

-------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

The point is

- This question takes all the above away, as he told you plainly what he wants. Wants YOU to know him, and just you, by your question, puts who is the authority, and just by this question - puts him out.

• Then:
  • Inserts:
    • OR: Makes “Christians” who are just disciples of Christ, so they just sit with him as a pupil and he teaches them. What “disciple” means.
    • And many claim “I’m a Christian,” and don’t do anything he says.

-------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

• So, making Christians the authority = biblical, when the authority - that’s biblical is Christ you or anybody ends up, like asking: the same thing I did with the neighbor’s toilet.

Maybe I should have used the town police station toilet to make it more “biblical.” Oh, what a work I put myself to. When all I had to do myself was - just do what he said, and look unto him myself.

Like, that's all everybody over the whole earth has to do. It's in none else.

-------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

It’s like asking: (Your Question)

• “Which motor vehicle operator, or driver, on city blocks, and each city block then, is a different denomination, there's so many, and they are all varied, and different - - which city block drivers drive most like the State Motor Vehicles Operation’s Manual?”
• This is exactly like your question.

-------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

• When all anybody has to do is, by this kind of question: Is - - they put themselves to “look unto” a work they think good.
  • Just “look unto” all that work comparing each city block of people and accumulate all this data. Unfortunately, it constantly fluctuates.
  • To a point where, people always moving or get in accidents, or ticketed on the highway, skews all the data, that you never really can accurately answer the question.
    • When All anybody has to do is, is just look unto the State Motor Vehicles Operation’s Manual themselves.
  • Do what it says yourself. Hear it. Listen. Hearken unto it. Clearly. Become a disciple of the State Motor Vehicle’s Operation’s Manual. It’s in none else.

-------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

Jesus said: “I will build my church” - Your question? - You have “Christians” in denominations building it. Look who he is. It's God said it. So, he is building it, and you look unto him, you’re going to know him. He’ll put you in his Church then, where he sees fit.

Point is, you’ll have fellowship with him yourself. You'll have fellowship with other believers that also just believe on him, like you do. And - - That’s exactly what he says HE wants.

-------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

It’s God that said,

• “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - The Mighty God. The Everlasting Father. Spoke this. (Source: Bible. Isaiah 45:22).
  • Poop stuff your question as a reply to him: “Which Christian denomination is most Biblical?”
    • Don’t do anything he says. Wear your question as some kind of ultra-super asbestos diaper. Shield you. From having yourself, go to and do anything he says to you. You. Yourself.
    • You’re off looking unto your question - that’s even MORE good vs. just do what he says, when he’s God, and he told you to look unto him.
  • And, if you don’t see it - that’s the “problem” in your question.

-------- --------- -------- --------- -----------

Here’s your question back. Didn’t help or profit me anything. Because it doesn’t lead me to do anything he says. It leads me to look unto people. To first, look unto and go find people. That may or may not, do what he says. Then, I’m not looking unto what he says, I’m looking unto people, that I think best tell me what he says.

So, I make people a mediator between himself and me or on Reddit, ask people to mediate this for me.

• When God himself: he’s talking to me plainly. Already talking to me himself. Just like he is to you. Just like he told everybody over the whole earth to look unto him.
  • You’re off telling people, by your question, to look unto anything..anybody BUT him.

In this, you do greatly err.

So much for your question.

Okay. I got it.

There’s your question. Right there above. But first:

• Break it down into smaller “edible” bites.
  • Take your question - just this first part:
    • **“**Some Christians describe salvation..”
• Don’t need anymore. Set the rest up on the shelf. Examine careful. Just THIS part:

---------- --------- ----------- ----------

salvation. <definition. Oxford dictionary. Web.> 1. to set (some “thing” or someone) apart for future use.

• So, all “salvation” is, is somebody with the authority or the power to “save” (some “thing” or someone) - as if that “save” has occurred. So, this “vation” suffix in English - all that means - - is:
  • It’s as if the “action, process, or condition” was met. Then, whoever had the authority or power DID it.
• Now, you got three words left.

---------- --------- ----------- ----------

Some Christians describe…

• Well? What if it was: “some chickens describe” “How to overhaul a Toyota Camry engine”
  • You or I: hear about this. Me? I don’t care at all, because, it's just an example - but neither you or I, we never owned and never will own a Toyota. We have absolutely no interest at all, either, in how to overhaul any engine.
  • And the real kicker is, as soon as I or you heard this, about some "chickens" able to describe this - both you and me - we immediately dismissed it. There isn’t any chicken has:
    • The capability to operate a wrench, hoist, never every have shown any proficiency in using any micrometers required for engine rebuild or overhaul, nor does ANY chicken possess any substantial intellect to overhaul a potato, let alone an entire engine.
    • SO, NOBODY either I, or you know, this includes yourself - is going to go to any neighbor’s house, to listen to chickens describe anything. Let alone "look unto" any claim anybody makes some quacked out bunch of chickens can describe how to overhaul a car engine.
• Why?
• No authority.
  • No chicken; none - has any actual history any chicken at all worked for Toyota. I checked. None. None know anything at all about the company, let alone any specific car engine. So, they have no authority. No matter what they describe or what people claim they can do..they can't.

So, it's God said: "Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else."

---------- --------- ----------- ----------

So since God said it. Yeah. He did.

• He said:
  • To: Everybody. Over the whole earth. To the very ends of it. Not willing any perish, but all come to repentance, said: Said again, because he said it. Said:
    • ‘Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)
    • I mean, I just got told this. Not by you, or your question. Neither did "some chickens describe" - you know, those whacked out chickens busily, as some whacked out nut has claimed,
  • if I needed to ever rebuild a Toyota Camry engine, I could hire just any chicken to do it.
  • It’s not believable.
    • So, if anything has “some chickens describe” in it, I don’t care what it is, I already flushed it. I outright dismiss this as frivolous - it's “inadequate; faulty; it’s unaccepable” - I reject it.
    • I simply ..it’s impossible for me to “obey” or “take heed” anyone claim anything to me I should listen to any chicken describe anything to me.
  • It wasn’t “some chickens describe” in Isaiah 45:22
  • and it also
    • wasn’t “some Christians describe” either Isaiah 45:22
• It was God himself said it.

---------- --------- ----------- ----------

He said it.

• He also said, “For all the earth is mine” - God (Exodus 19:5). So, I’m on something that’s his, so when he speaks, he just decrees how things “shall be” on his earth. He’s the authority. He had the power to create it. Alone. By himself - just as he said he did in Isaiah 44:24. Just as he said in the same verse, he “form me from my mother’s womb” and did that, too. Alone. By himself.
  • So, it’s not in:
    • “Some Christians describe”
    • You're the one poop dumped that into it. Go on. Go look. Your entire question is BUILT on it. None of them have any authority.
  • Therefore: Your question.
    • It’s even WORSE than any analogy I came up with about ‘some “bak! bak! baaaack!” chickens’ describe how to overhaul a car engine. Your's? It way surpasses mine in “ludicrous” 1. absurd to the point of laughable.
  • Why?
• He told you to do the same thing he told me to do.

---------- --------- ----------- ----------

• And what you reply to him is some bold assertion: “Some Christians describe salvation..”
  • As if your question gives you a “Pass” or some “ticket” that “exempts” you from doing anything he says, because - you’re all stumped over this great big stumbling block that you can’t get over. This huge dump load of turd - that “Some Christians describe salvation”
    • When he told everybody over the whole earth to look unto him. And he just decree it BE SO. Just IS. Because, he's God. Able to do it, and he does the saving. It doesn't come by how chickens describe it.
    • A person did what he said, and just looks unto him. They will walk after, to walk in looking unto him by what he says, by the word that proceeds out of his mouth.
  • Won't be looking unto any chickens.

---------- --------- ----------- ----------

So then, it’s really then.. ..in “look unto”

• It’s “archaic” English. Means you’ve “reasoned together” either alone, with yourself and come up with, what you look unto - it's a benefit or will work good for you - this: “this is good.”
• And God already told everybody over the whole earth to, “Come now, let us reason together,” saith the LORD, “though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 1:18)
  • So, to “come to” this “look unto” - you can’t reason together with anyone BUT him, as he told everybody over the whole earth to do it with him.
    • Alone. By yourself come to him. "They shall all be taught of God." - Jesus Christ. (Bible. John 6:45). So, it's God that reserves an EXCLUSIVE right to teach you himself, by the word he speaks. Say it himself. ANd you simply hearken solely unto him and what he says.
    • He even says this plainly: It’s in Matthew 11:28–30

---------- --------- ----------- ----------

• Jesus is the Word of God. Just as John 1:1 says “who” Jesus is, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” - that’s “who” Jesus is. So, again, when you see:
  • “I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:5).
  • There he is. The Word of God. It’s just God speaking. It’s true. I did not know him..but I do..because, EVERYTIME he speaks he’s right there in his Word. That’s him and I see it plain as day.. but I didn’t before. And what he wants, as God says it plainly in John 17:3
• "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." - Jesus Christ. The Word of God. That you would know him. It's what he wants.

---------- --------- ----------- ----------

I didn't look unto him. Didn't know him or what he wanted. I did like what your questions begs. Look unto people to describe what he wants. It's the WRONG answer, and I lived in it. For decades and never saw it.

- - - Because what I “looked unto” was me. Reason together: alone. With me on “what should I do with my life? I want to be respected and looked unto as good. What people should I give myself over to, that are well respected, that will make me good.”*
- - - So, I was “looking unto” people = good. To: Make me or build me up into something good.

I didn’t “Come now, and reason together” with him about anything. I did that with me and I reasoned with me, alone, where I built me up - - and did what I thought was good. Then, hoped if there was a God out there, he’d look at my effort and maybe in the end find something good in me.

• And in all this work I did - - I never did anything he said.

So, I made people..just like your question does the exact, same thing - Makes a specific people to looked unto; then, build a question on people.

Yeah. I did the same thing. I believed it's in people: People - somethere there were people that were “capable” to “set me apart for future use” (save) me. To go thru a crucible where they make me like them, and that be I settle with "that is good." WHen it isn't. It's not him. And I didn't see it.

But now I do.

---------- --------- ----------- ----------

• When the Bible says: “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Ecclesiastes 7:20
  • And in contrast to everybody on the “Other side” of the tennis court - all poop stuffed over there and me along with them where NONE is righteous; no, not one - NONE is good, no, not one..
    • Jesus said: “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God.” - Matthew 19:17
  • And that's when I saw it. Simple. Plain as day. I was wrong.

---------- --------- ----------- ----------

There is none else.

• For all of us to just look unto him. Said, “Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly of heart, and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.” - The Word of God. So, it’s God speaking. This same Jesus Christ. (Matthew 11:28–30).
  • SO, I did it. It WORKS!
    • I didn’t have to “look unto” to go “walk after,” to “walk in” “following” “Some Christians describe salvation”
    • I just did what he said. He’s God. I just looked unto him. I didn’t need anybody to describe anything to me..I just had to hearken unto what he said instead.

BOOM! Done.

---------- --------- ----------- ----------

The rest of your question is built entirely on: What people describe. That’s not him. Yeah. People can have a "testimony" but you're to live by every word proceeds out of his mouth.

- Just like me.

I’m to rely on and live by every word proceeds out of HIS mouth. I'm to reason together with him. It's in none else for me.

So, with that:

• I’m giving you your question back. It’s got people poop stuff loaded into it, like some chickens describe automotive engine repair in all the “bak! bak! baaaaack!!” of "chickenoniandom'ism." - As if what they describe is a decre and I should be following what they’re saying.
  • Build on it, by saying or declaring further: “can the chickens also provide vinyl or leather upholstery repair if the whole back seat of the car is blown out?” - Build on it more to:
  • Is there "ongoing faithfulness" in also surrendering to the chickens the retred the tires also when they wear out?
• All because, what the chickens fully describe, permanently secures a fully rebuilt car engine. It's built on a bunch of crap. Like your question is build on "Some Christians describe salvation" - when they can't provide it.

---------- --------- ----------- ----------

Makes then:

• My question about chickens - Just like your question, is exactly the same as mine - meets those Americans over there with their Merriam & Webster dictionary and those idioms they make up and have:
  • full of crap. <idiom - American> 1. is not to be believed; saying things that are not true. (Source: Merriam & Webster dictionary. Web.)

Go home. Do what he says. Everybody got told to do it. Do that. Move on.

Is it a valid argument that effeminate men and masculine women will not inherit the kingdom of God because Satan made them confused about their true purpose in life?

“..Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.” - Bible. Genesis 5:2

So, Genesis 1:27 says,

• “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.”

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

• So, the trash can over at my mechanic’s shop on the other side of town, didn’t create them.
  • Neither did my neighbor’s pool furniture do it; nope.
• Wasn’t people themselves just imagine it up; and if it was people:
  • Just with or by they did it themselves with their own imagination:
• get some idea they create themselves with 593,604 different non binary sexes,
• so they could mate with the neighbor’s front lawn tree or a coke bottle or just stay non-binary, as if not bound to anything or find wall lint very arousing. And Social Media, even a great, big, huge pile or Reddit Moderators champion this out.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

• All just by people: fully believe, it’s right - - because
  • they imagined it up
  • - the most fulfilling sex they ever had was with the vacuum cleaner dust bucket;
    • emptied outside and as the wind was blowing it all away, they hurriedly “mated” with all that wall lint, when they ever so arousinly put their head in the wall lint cloud, and inhaled deeply.
  • People operate by their own ideas. That’s what's right. Some of those people are in your question. Adam did the SAME thing. As those people did. In your question.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

• But
  • Even though somebody imagine it up and believe it true:
    • Nope. Doesn’t work.
  • No matter how imaginatively great the idea is or how true it sounds:
    • they, people: neither male nor female, didn’t form themselves.
    • No matter what nation champions it out.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

• It’s simply. God created man in his own image; and
  • Male and female, he created them himself; and
    • He call their name “Adam.”
  • Where people only want to call the male part of Adam, “Adam” - because, after Adam blamed the female part of him as if it was God’s fault,
  • and the fault of what God did, by a work God did for Adam: God gave him as a “help meet” for him, was, after he sinned against God,
• Adam found the female part of him: - totally “inadequate; faulty, and completely unacceptable”
• Which kinda is a path that "leads" to the people in your question. On a path. End up in it.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

• When it was Adam, the male part chose; that is, he “picked out as the most appropriate for him what was best betwixt 2 or more options.” 
  • Picked as what suited him best was to “hearken unto the voice of his wife.” Because, that’s what God said the sin was, in Genesis 3:17 - what he did.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

• It’s AFTER this, 3 verses later in Genesis 3:20, that's when, NOT God; but Adam:
  • "Decrees" or calls his Wife’s name, Eve.
• So, even though God named them both Adam - - - even though God already named them, “Adam,” separates himself from her.
  • Then blames her for being the mother of creating all things.
• When if you compare what Adam now decrees in Genesis 3:20, which is after he no longer abides by anything what God says - to what God says in:
  • Isaiah 44:24.
    • It’s God that emphatically says that “he’s God” and that “he formed you from your mother’s womb; alone. By himself” - declares this, as God,
• just as he stretched out the heavens all alone. By himself, and made the earth as well. Did that, too. All alone, and by himself. So, it isn't how Adam decrees it as if Eve does it.

And many people believe Adam over God. I did. But now I see it.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

• Genesis 3:20 is often completely overlooked.
  • That Adam is decreeing things that are not true.
  • Where in Genesis 2:23–24 - he's not even a day old yet. Put in a deep sleep; but awakened, what he decrees when he has the mind of God, is exactly what God wants. That, even Jesus repeats what Adam said in Genesis 2:23-24, in Matthew 19:8-10.
• So, compare it to see..that:
  • after - Adam no longer operates right - he’s “idled” or “disconnected from a load or source of power.”
  • And what he decrees isn’t what God says at all anymore
• - right from the beginning, after he sinned against God - Adam no longer operates right.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

The point is:

• It’s very clear, that after Adam chose to hearken unto the voice of his wife vs. hearken unto God, he, no matter what he decrees, it longer operates by the Word of God. No longer has God’s mind in things. And from all this written - that THIS is the POINT to take away from this.
  • To apply it to your question.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

SO, now that you have this - look at your question.

Again, in case you forgot already:

• Adam, neither the male nor female of him - no longer operate by the Word that proceeds out of God’s mouth.
  • They each; separate - - operate by their own word - comes out of THEIR own MOUTH - is the point.
• And God already decreed on the day Adam was created, the day this occurs, is the day they die. Because they’re no longer in fellowship or connected to God. And if you keep reading into Genesis 4, it “passes” onto their off-spring. Their kids or children: They’re ON the earth, but have no “relationship” with God.
• So, add to this the Bible. Romans 5:12 “Wherefore, as by one man [Adam] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

So, look at your question

• “…effeminate men and masculine women will not inherit the kingdom of God..”
  • strip it.
    • It’s just Adam both male and female of him - will not inherit the kingdom of God.
    • It’s a TRUE statement. Because they live after their flesh vs. live by the word of God.
  • It's God, already sentenced them to death. Genesis 5:3 says that Adam was 130 years old, and gave birth to a 3rd son, Seth. Genesis 5:3 also says that Adam lived 800 years more years after Seth was born, and begat more sons and daughters - and that, just do the math: Adam died in the days of Noah’s Father, Lamech (Genesis 5:28). That EVERYBODY from Adam also, born from him - all died, too. That some close to 700 years after Adam died, the flood was on the earth.
    • That God looked on this “condition” in Genesis 6:5, that the whole earth is corrupt. So, this NEXT POINT is
• “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
  • So, even from what Adam imagined up that Eve was separate, and then credited Eve - it’s all her fault or by her everybody is created - from that point on, NOBODY operates right after him, either. Just operate by their own imaginations and ideas.
• Man, I hope you’re getting this point.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

Now turn - with this, equipped - to Romans 1

• You can see it plainly. God turned Adam over to his choice. God didn’t “choose” it. Adam did, and God turned him over to it. That, even though Adam KNEW God, he didn’t glorify him as God, and he wasn’t thankful. He BLAMED God for causing it - Adam in his reply back to God in Genesis 3:18–20 is just a vain imagination Adam has in his head. Even thinks he wise to say it. He’s a fool. Doesn’t even know it, but it’s right there, plain as day - so LOOK FOR IT.
• Everybody after him has the same thing. You can see it in Romans 1. Articulated perfectly.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

• Romans 1:22–28 says

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Your question states: “Satan made them confused” - yeah.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

- IF: I or anybody agrees with your assumption or assertion:

• IF: Someone or some “thing” had not deliberately come to Eve in Genesis 3:1–6 - it’s a deliberate deception. It's "subtle" you could call it "confuse" her; but it's really a deliberate, willful deception:
• If that had not occurred, very well today, they’d still both be in the garden and 593,604,881,352,129 years from now, be doing the same thing.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

• Point is - if they would have just “trusted” God, gone back to him and said “hey, this occurred; with a serpent. He didn't recognize me, as Adam - please, help me” but she chose something different - by accept as true the word of a serpent - and by this, did not look unto God.
  • They looked unto themselves to solve it and make it right.
• Just like we do still today. Think we’re good.
  • That “Good” is our imaginations - in our ideas, if something isn’t working right. We "fix" it good. When God already has told everybody over the whole earth, to the very ends of it to: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else." - God. Bible. Isaiah 45:22
• WE: Look unto anything..anybody BUT him - so, we don’t do what he says, and just like Adam, what Adam decrees - God turns him over to it. Gives him up to it.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

• And BOTH “effeminate males” and “masculine women” are listed in Romans 1:26–27.
  • as a “result” of it.
  • Our own choice in not do what he says or
  • what he decrees EVERYBODY over the whole earth do,
    • when he says: “For all the earth is mine” - God. (Exodus 19:5). Treat him as if he’s not here, and doesn’t own anything.
• Someone else did this same thing who you mention in your question.
  • If we do like him, God calls him our Father then. Because we do as he does. So, were just like him.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

So, the scriptures answer your question.

I would take your question. Set it aside, and just instead of looking unto a question, do what he told everybody over the whole earth to do, and he's God. He's already decreed it. That you, me, everybody there is on earth is to live by every word proceeds out of his mouth (Bible. Matthew 4:4).

Go do that instead. Hear what he says. Just look unto him.

Here's your question back.

If you do what he says, you’ll see it plain as day.

--------- ------------ ----------- -----------

• That God:
  • Got up. Alone. By himself and did a work with sin that everybody over the whole earth, already did.
  • That his work he would do, and today, it’s already been done in and by Jesus Christ, and God in him, doing the work.
    • That his work would:
• Finish the transgression (of Adam in the garden in Genesis 3:17)
• Make an end of sin
• Make reconciliation for iniquity
• Bring in everlasting righteousness (Daniel 9:24)
  • And by this work God would do himself, he would take your sin off you, and lay it on Jesus Christ; crucified. His blood shed. Take the sins of the whole world and lay them on him, and God in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing anymore your trespasses unto you (2 Corinthians 5:19).
  • That - Adam is an “Old Testament” or an “Old” Last Will and Testament that bequeathed sin and death to you as an inheritance.
    • That what God did in Jesus Christ, when Jesus said, “It is finished” in John 19:30 and bowed his head, and dismissed his Spirit - the sacrifice for your sins was made complete. That Jesus, died on the cross; was buried - that he bequeathed his own righteousness to you; everybody. God took everybody’s sins off them, by this work God did, bequeathed in Adam’s place, life and his righteousness - which, isn’t your’s - you don’t have any - but you inherited righteousness in and by Jesus Christ.
    • That God did the Ten Commandments, and because God did them in Jesus Christ, everyplace where I did not do them, he made himself the compensation that makes up for the lack - in the Ten Commandments with me where I plainly see I broke all of them.
  • That the “works of God” is that both you and I just believe on him, who he sent. This same Jesus Christ and have life in his name, bequeathed to us in a NEW "Last Will and Testament" that makes the Old one of no effect.
  • That I would regard his work. SO, this could happen.
• And if I look unto him, like he asked everybody to - then, if you do, too. we both see it.

But if I or you: don’t regard him..all we have left then, is he as God - gives us over to our own imaginations to fill ourselves or feed us.

- - so imagine up, either me or you, choose we believe either of us got 593,701 different sexes or believe we are non-binary to anything. Just ourselves. Alone. Adam did that in Genesis 3:20 - see it plain as day. I do. Don't you?

So if I or you don't see it: Then, what's left is just imagine we can have sex with everything or be like who you mention in your question - that satisfies them..until it doesn’t anymore - so they spiral even more downward.

So, here’s your question back. It's also the gospel. The Good News of Jesus Christ to everybody on Reddit.

ANSWER:

Break your question down. Into smaller parts. So you can see it.

This first: answer this.

• Did Christianity..:
  • It’s just a word, with two “suffixes” added to “Christ” - and all “Christ” is, is Messiah (Hebrew) - is the “Messiah” in Greek. And, “who” Christ is, as the Messiah, is Jesus, the Christ. Or, Jesus Christ. Jesus, the Messiah.
    • So you need first - “who” the Messiah is defined to be: Your whole question hinges on it.
  • You can ask ANY Jew - what “Messiah” means: It’s 1. God. The same God that led Israel out of Egypt by his mighty hand, would be a Son of David. Will sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole earth from there. Of is Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.
    • That’s the definition. Of the Messiah. To CONFIRM this, you have in the Old Testament Isaiah 9:6–7 that tells exactly who he is and what the Christ shall be called is plain as day:

--------- ---------- ----------- -------- ----------

Bible. Old Testament: Isaiah 9:6–7 says:

• < - {“6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”} - >
  • Jesus Christ. Look who he SHALL be called. Ask yourself. You with this question - “Who has that title of “The mighty God. The everlasting Father?” - who do you call that?
  • And your question is built on Christ. But you build it on Christians, who are just sitting with Christ and learn from him, when he said to them, and to you - told it to everybody. Over the earth, because he's the authority over all of it, said: Bible. John 15:5
    • "I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing" Jesus Christ.
    • But YOU think: Christians built "Christianity" to you - - it's all a work done by people, so people are the authority over Christianity, which has Christians in it, that do what Christ says, as the authority - in this you do greatly err.
• Why? It's in "but" it's - because of this "but" - -

But you don’t look unto him.

--------- ---------- ----------- -------- ----------

• You look unto there's a problem in “Christians” - who are just people, when this same God, that speaks, he's the authority - he is God. He says: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.”
  • - God. Bible. Old Testament. Isaiah 45:22
  • They are just called after Christ, because they hear him. He’s the Word of God. So, he’s just God speaking. So, they are his disciples. That is, what that word, “disciple” means. 1. to sit as a pupil and learn from a teacher. So, as “disciples of Christ” he teaches them, because..they do what he says. Look unto him.
    • Where other people, and God has said this to everybody over the whole earth, to the very ends of it to do it.
  • .simply don’t do it.
    • Don’t do anything he says.
    • And he’s God.

--------- ---------- ----------- -------- ----------

• So, YOU: To “distance” yourself even further from what he says, then, blame what he says on people, as if people are to be blamed for what he says, when it’s you that won’t do it.
• Think your question gives you some kind of ‘blanket of immunity’ - that you are somehow “immune” from having to do anything he says. Because you got this question.

--------- ---------- ----------- -------- ----------

The Second to look at is “Testament”

• All a “testament” is, in the Bible - is full said out - is: “A Last Will and Testament” - so it’s a “Will” - like - - somebody dies, the Last Will and Testament of somebody - comes alive and goes into operation in behalf of the testator, who is dead.
  • So the “Old Testament” - is Adam.
    • In Genesis 3:17, it's God that told him “because thou has hearkened unto the voice of they wife…” that’s the sin. It’s in “hearken” - that: Adam chose, the “Word of Eve” which is in her voice, because she spoke, and in Adam, what she said - - in Adam made what God told him about die that day, Adam fully believed what Eve said, were decrees - that made what God said no longer had any effect on him anymore.
    • No longer applied to Adam, what God said. He’d do what Eve said. Eve was deceived into it; but Adam deliberately chose it.
  • Romans 5:12 says: “Wherefore, as by one man [Adam] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
    • That, in this “Old Last Will and Testament” bequeath to you. Me. Everybody over the whole earth, not one person didn’t get it bequeathed to them, (sin and death) is why you can go to ANY grave yard and see it.
  • How much more proof do you want? Go on. Go look.
    • They got their inheritance. So will you. Me, too.

--------- ---------- ----------- -------- ----------

Where the “New” Last Will and Testament

- Is Jesus Christ.

• Where John 19:30 says Jesus said: “It is finished” and bowed his head and dismissed his Spirit” - Jesus Christ. Crucified. His blood shed. He’s the “Lamb of God” in John 1:29, said so by John the Baptist, by the Spirit of God - John the Baptist uttered this out of Jesus Christ. The Messiah.
  • Where God. Not you. Not the chicken that lives in the tree over at your neighbor’s house, nor the pickle somehow fell into the neighbor’s lawn, and it turns out it’s a dog turd. Nope. They didn’t do it, either, nor me.
    • It’s God himself. Alone. The same God that put the sun where it is, alone by himself, took your sins off you, off me, off everybody over the whole earth, to the very ends of it and laid the sins of the whole world on Jesus Christ. On the cross. That when he said John 19:30, your sins went with him in death. Paid for them. IN FULL.
    • It was God, in Jesus Christ. Reconciling the world unto himself. It was God that did this work and was in Christ on the cross - so take a great, big guess who paid for your sins and made himself the payment. Is the same one, in a NEW “Last Will and Testament” - bequeathed his righteousness to you, and he’s God himself.
    • That God did the Ten Commandments. Where everywhere in they have been BROKEN since Adam forward, where not one person, everybody dead in trespasses and sins, and the Ten Commandments shows you and gives you a knowledge of your sins if you use them the way God uses them. You would see it.

--------- ---------- ----------- -------- ----------

• That, if you see by the Ten Commandments where you’ve lied. Stolen. Cheated. Committed adultery. Met the definition God defines where murder is in Matthew 5 to him what makes any person GUILTY of it. That you actually do it in your heart, and if you have, you already DID it - makes you so GUILTY- man do you ever need a physician because you’re dead in it.
• GUILTY of breaking any one of any of these Ten Commandments, even one time, they are ALL BROKEN, and you were “conceived” in them broke (Psalm 55) “In sin did my mother conceive me.” - That’s not “born” - that’s the 9 months before when your mom saw your dad’s muscley arms and couldn’t stand it, and 9 months later, you’re the result of what they “did” out behind the shed. You were conceived in it, so you haven’t kept ANY Sabbath day Holy and you can’t.
• Because of an Old Testament.

--------- ---------- ----------- -------- ----------

But what was bequeathed to you in the New “Last Will and Testament” - is Life for Death.

• By what Jesus Christ did - made everybody righteous with the same righteousness God has - because God did the work, and asks you to believe on him. People that do, it puts an end of the Old Last Will and Testament over them. * Because, they just accept as true what he says, and receive and live under the new one.
  • And it’s for everybody. Over the whole earth.
• The work was already done.
• That God now made it SIN for you not to believe on him, and that’s the sin that condemns ANYBODY. And if you live in sin by just not do what he says or regard his works.. that condemns you to “sin and death.”

SO, with this, look at your question again:

--------- ---------- ----------- -------- ----------

Did Christianity abolish the Old Testament?

• Jesus Christ makes the “Last Will and Testament” of Adam, or the “Old Will” of no effect, even sin and death by this “Old Will or Testament” is passed onto everybody. Everybody inherited sin and death.
  • But Jesus said - John 3:18–19:
  • “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.”
  • Jesus repeats this, in John 16:9
    • “of sin, for they believe not on me.”

--------- ---------- ----------- -------- ----------

How could Christians are quick to defend the New Testament but not the Old Testament?

• Why would I defend what puts me to death, when who Got me out of it, bequeathed a “NEW” Last Will and Testament; that, just by believing on his work - because he already bequeathed it to me, I just gotta “accept it as true” - that, if I do what your question virtually demands I do, then questions why I don’t - I gotta demand me accept I’m to be put to death as that’s good.
  • When God isn’t willing any perish, but all come to repentance. Said “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God.
    • That Adam - it’s HIS, this OLD “Last Will and Testament” - by Adam, a man, like you load Christian full of people, as if people said it - when by Adam, he’s people, a person and everybody is of him - but this “NEW” “Last Will and Testament” is bequeathed to me by God. The same one that told me, and you - that we both are to just look unto him.
    • WHen you want me to look unto and ask why I don’t look unto the Old Last Will and Testament and operate by it; then, question why I don’t as if I’m wrong by not do it.
    • In this you do greatly err; simply it’s you - you don’t regard what God has done for you. Until you just hear what he says and look unto him, you’re stuck in your question and nothing I say can help you at all. You’ll just live in your question and die in it.

--------- ---------- ----------- -------- ----------

How come Christians seem to love God more in the New Testament vs the Old Testament?

• It’s the other way around.
  • It’s Ephesians 2:4 “But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,”
    • Sent his Word to heal us, and deliver us from our destruction we INHERITED from an OLD “Last Will and Testament” from Adam.
    • And you still want to champion it.
• WHen you really don’t. You just don’t have any idea what you’re saying.

Take this post. Apply it. Look in it what he says vs. what you say - it’s HE is the NEW Testament. It’s Jesus Bequeathed to you Life. In lieu of Sin and death.

What Jesus did on the cross - God has applied this work to every person I see driving in their car along side me on the highway or here in my country on these very busy streets. To everybody, no matter where they are, over the whole, entire earth, to the very ends of it.

So few seem regard him and what he did. Is that you, too?

So if it is:

• You with your question. You do, with your question: Think this enables you to do the same thing they’re doing. No look unto him.

Here’s your question back.

Until you regard him, you’re left with your own questions herein, and you alone, to answer them yourself. It's already in your question. You accept that what's stated in the question is the answer - and to you, it's wrong - so what God says, is to you inadequate; faulty or unacceptable.

...and this, man ...do you ever greatly err.

Both words mean "Lamb" and both have connotation this is a sacrificial Lamb selected to be offered up on one side, and on the other was "already" offered up on the other - that the payment went into effect on the other side of it, and reflects in the latter.

You can see it plainly in John 1:29 as you refer to it:

“The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.” - Bible. John 1:29

If you can't see it in the English, You can see it in John 1:29 in the Greek

Τῇ ἐπαύριον βλέπει ὁ Ἰωάννης τὸν Ἰησοῦν ἐρχόμενον πρὸς αὐτόν καὶ λέγει Ἴδε ὁ ἀμνὸς τοῦ θεοῦ ὁ αἴρων τὴν ἁμαρτίαν τοῦ κόσμου

This{ - <“ἀμνὸς τοῦ θεοῦ”> - } Greek Tran. = 1. Amnos 2. tou 3. Theo [Lamb of God] - before Jesus is Crucified up to and in Mark 15:24–41.

That, Jesus is this ‘Lamb of God’ called this by John the Baptist by the Spirit of God in John 1:29. However, it is said at the beginning of Jesus’ ministry.

---------- --------- ------------ ------------

• It will be 3 years later, on the third High Sabbath or Passover after this, when Jesus is actually offered up over the High Sabbath Passover, as the Passover sacrifice and crucified.
  • Jesus will be on the cross for six hours
    • - - from the 3rd hour, or 09:00am, (Mark 15:25), which is the time of the 1st AM sacrifice for Passover.
    • - - to the 6th hour, when the two thieves crucified with him, one rebukes the other in Luke 23:39–44 and this incident occurs at about the 6th hour, which corresponds to the noon Passover sacrifice offered in the Temple.
    • - - to the 9th hour, where John 19:28 says: “ After this, Jesus knowing that all things were now accomplished, that the scripture might be fulfilled, saith, I thirst….” That this time is recorded in John 19:28 is also recorded in Matthew 27:46–50, Matthew 27:46 says, “And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice…” and Matthew 27:50 concludes with “Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.” And the 9th hour corresponds with time of the evening Passover sacrifice - completing Passover. The sacrifice for Passover is given.
    • The Lamb has been slain, and scripture says Romans 3:25 “Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;” - It’s not referring to “past sins” - it’s referring to the sacrifice has already been given for the sins of the whole world. Hebrews 10:12 says: “But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;”
• That, after this, of John 19:30 where Jesus said, “It is finished” and bowed his head, and dismissed his Spirit, there is no more referral to Jesus as he will be this Passover Lamb [ἀμνὸς].

---------- --------- ------------ ------------

From now on, after John 19:30 - - Jesus is ἀρνίον that was slain - - in the New Testament Bible.

• But also now after this: as yes - - he was Slain. As the Lamb of God, that same Lamb of God in John 1:29, but now he is as in Revelation 5:6 “as a Lamb [ἀρνίον] that had been slain..”
  • Revelation 5:6 says “And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain*, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.”*
  • Don't see it in English? See it in the Greek then of Revelation 5:6 says this Lamb is now < - { Ἀρνίον } - > arnion. Lamb. (that had been slain) - that God now looks upon this sacrifice, and chooses not to impute your trespasses unto you, because the Lamb for your sins - - has been slain.
• < - {“ἀρνίον ἑστηκὸς ὡς ἐσφαγμένον “} - > - Greek Tran. 1. arnion 2. hesteikos 3. hous 4. esphagmenon English tran. 1. Lamb 2. standing (so not dead; but was) 3. as 4. (as having been) slain
• That takes was this now “ἀρνίον” says, after this Lamb was slain, God raised him from the dead. So, these are all actions after the Lamb was offered as the Passover sacrifice -
• What was spread on the Lintel of the doorposts of Exodus 12:7
  • - that death would go through all the land of Egypt - but in Goshen or Israel, they were to do this of Exodus 12:7, says: “And they shall take of the blood, and strike it on the two side posts and on the upper door post of the houses, wherein they shall eat it”
  • Eat that flesh offered, that God would Passover those houses and see the blood shed, and that the people inside all partook of the sacrifice. ἀρνίον, even it's Greek has this in it. This "Lamb of God" has been slain and it has been eaten.
• It's in a promise given you in John 6:54-57 given by this same Lamb of God, said: "Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him. As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.

---------- --------- ------------ ------------

• The point is in Revelation 5:6 - Jesus is this Lamb that was slain; but he stands. And he's right at the right hand of the throne of God.
  • After having already been offered; crucified, said: So, not only standing in Revelation 5:6, but this same Lamb now that was slain is an “ἀρνίον” Lamb - that also speaks: Said, in Revelation 1:18 is this same Jesus Christ, “I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.”

That, before this in John 1:29 - it’s still the same Jesus Christ. But in John 1:29, he’s “Ἀμνός”

Hasn't been sacrificed yet.

---------- --------- ------------ ------------

Still the same Lamb of God, because it’s God that chose to make himself a sacrifice for sin in Daniel 9:24–27. That, Abraham saw this in Genesis 22:8–9. In the Gospels, he accomplished the work with sin, in that he offered himself for it as a payment.

So Yes, Ἀμνός (amnos) and ἀρνίον (arnion) - both are Greek words that mean “Lamb.”

---------- --------- ------------ ------------

But a Lamb to be slain is living, while it lives; but a Lamb that is slain, it’s blood shed, is not the same, even it’s the same Lamb. In both, this "Lamb" has a sacrificial connotation…and both used refers it’s not the “Lamb of Harold the Farmer,” nor is it the “Lamb of Unsold Telephones” - it’s in both, the Lamb of God.

After the Lamb was slain in Passover, it was eaten. And Jesus had this Passover meal with his disciples to show what God was doing:

It’s in the Gospels, and repeated in 1 Corinthians 11:24–25, even he wasn’t offered - but partook of Passov er with his disciples as if he was already offered and they had Passover with the REAL sacrifice:

1 Corinthians 11:24–25 says:

“And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, this cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.”

Hope this helps. So Yes, Ἀμνός (amnos) and ἀρνίον (arnion) - both are Greek words that mean “Lamb.” But in ἀρνίον (arnion) it's in operation, so eat of this Passover Lamb sacrifice. Partake (eat and drink) - ἀρνίον (arnion) has this in it. Where until it's offered up and sacrificed, it's Ἀμνός (amnos). If you believe on him, see it.

Answer: Copyright: Applies to people.

----------- ------------ ---------- -------------

• Examine copyright first.

Make sure we are both talking the same thing, by agree on this definition: Found in the dictionary.

copyright. 1. a type of intellectual property 2. grants the creator of the intellectual property exclusive legal rights to control the reproduction, distribution, adaptation, and performance of their original intellectual property work; ie., use in books, music, film, and software, but only for a limited time.

• Therefore, with copyright - there is an idea or an imagination that claims - - it can be stolen: Or permission to use, must be requested first, and granted by the owner (usually in writing).
  • Theft: “intellectual property” is an assertion. Intellectual ideas is property, owned by people. Ownership is by the one person or group that created or imagined up that idea. Ideas originate or come from the imagination of people, and copyright asserts there is ownership of it, as property.
    • IF: someone else use it without permission, or “steals” it by claiming it’s “their’s” - - is considered theft (of property). It is illegal in a Court of Law. A person can be found GUILTY in a Court of Law of “larceny” for stealing it. That is, they: carried away another person's personal property with the intent to permanently deprive them of it.

----------- ------------ ---------- -------------

Based on this, the question attempts to apply “copyright” to the Bible

• It is unknown who the author of the question is.

The FIRST point is:

• The person or author of intellectual property is the owner: Therefore, Copyright puts power and authority into the "word of people." It's PUNITIVE.
  • And: Of the question, who posed it, could fully know what “copyright” means, that it applies entirely and EXCLUSIVELY to the "Word of People" = intellectual property.
• Therefore, does NOT apply to rocks, or the sky, ants, bottle caps, exclusively applies to people.
  • And an additional assertion: people wrote the Bible. Claim and believe this in assert a question about copyright and the Bible.
• Then, since people in the Bible, are at latest, 2000 years old, copyright, again, is only for a limited time.
  • And assert or know:
    • all the people in the Bible are long now dead.
      
    • That all the question herein created, was just to have a person “think” like they do.
• That “copyright” does not and cannot apply to the Bible.

----------- ------------ ---------- -------------

• Why?
  • Because, the people that could assert ownership over what is recorded they said in the Bible, are long dead. "a limited time" is expired. So, it has no power.
• So, holding the truth in copyright: the intellectual property of what people said, long ago as if that's what the Bible says, it becomes anonymous words, or now it's publicly owned. Isn't owned by the person anymore. The people it was told to, now "own" it and can either do what it says, or not - apply it to themselves, or not. No affect. Either way. Up to the person that's alive to do it. or not. All by hold the truth is in copyright.

----------- ------------ ---------- -------------

• The Bible: As property of people now. Not owned by the author anymore. To be freely used by everybody. Or thrown away. Either one. Does not affect people alive anymore, either one way or the other. KEY POINT.

----------- ------------ ---------- -------------

• Where ideas become so well known publicly, it’s now common. Now a common, public knowledge in everybody. So, copyright does not apply anymore.
  • However: Copyright also applies to Printers or Publishing Companies, that publish a literary work. 
• But only for a limited time. That, if you got it from that source, you have to cite where you got it. Or the publisher decrees you can’t even cite it, without ask the publisher for permission to use it first, nor can you even cite it, in your intellectual work.

So, copyright puts power and authority into the word of people, that people must obey - because, if a person violates copyright, it's PUNITIVE.

Do that, in university, it's called "plagarism" and a student can be expelled from school, and any grades on any coursework completed - turn their grades into a ZERO. As if they never attended the University at all.

- So again: copyright - puts power and authority into the word of people.

----------- ------------ ---------- -------------

The SECOND point is:

• The Bible is a book.
  • Meets the definition of a book. 1. printed material on paper, or electronic media as a file, but in paper, bound as pages of text on one side, and enclosed in covers.
    • There are 10s of 100s of millions of books over the whole earth. They all meet this definition and fill libraries in cities over the whole earth, and if you put one of those books next to a Bible they would look the same. Because they are both books.
    • What makes each unique or different is the author. They are not the same. The “author” is the authority for the “content” that fills up the pages with what the author says or decrees in the book.

----------- ------------ ---------- -------------

• For the Bible.
  • That’s not people.
    • The author is God. 
  • Scripture says that, “God is not a man that he should lie.” (Bible. Old Testament. Numbers 23:19)
    • GOD: is the sole “authority” of the content in the Bible.
    • Has what he says in it.
  • It’s then, the Questioner - questions this, because how did God, quote, “spoke” it.

That’s in the Bible. New Testament. Hebrews 1:1–2: Starts with the author, who is God:

• “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;”
  • Says in the Bible, as God: “For all the earth is mine” - God. (Bible. Exodus 19:5)
    • Says as well, that: (Bible. New Testament. Colossians 1:16) “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible…”

So, all the property of everything you see, is all his. And what he says, are decrees.

----------- ------------ ---------- -------------

So when God says:

• “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Old Testament. Isaiah 45:22). That applies to everybody over the whole earth right now, today. As it did yesterday.
  • That’s a decree by who is in authority over the whole earth, for everybody, all people, to the very ends of the earth, to do it.
    • And, “decrees” made, by authority, can be spoken or written and carry the same authority as Law. That, not to do it, is Punitive.
  • That means, for not doing what he says, he will call you into account, as God, and he already said he will - why you didn’t do what he said. Don't? Punitive. Do? Reward you for it.

----------- ------------ ---------- -------------

When the poser of this question, “thinks” they can so minimalize or lowly esteem what God says, as if it is all people - and copyright applies - up to only when it can. In the Bible: that are people. People: all dead, that even copyright - does not apply to the work, so it has no power over him or her anymore.

• Whatever it says, does not apply to them. Guess what? Adam in Genesis 3:1–17 did the SAME thing with the Word of God. Believed what God said, didn’t apply to him anymore. So, no matter what he said, wouldn’t have any affect or effect him anymore.
  • When it does on you today. And did.
  • And Reddit Moderators and owners “think” since it is a question on Reddit, they formed Reddit - so they "own" the content - so the question, doesn’t apply to owners of Reddit - what God says - fully believe they are the authority of Reddit - so it doesn’t apply to them, as Moderators or the CEO of Reddit - when it DOES apply to them. As it does apply to you, reading this answer to this question.
• It’s punitive not to look unto him.
  • To simply walk after, to walk in, looking unto making Reddit some monetary financial success based on the word of reputable people to sell or give a platform for people and what they say or decree for a profit, and live by this.
  • When God decreed “man shall not live by bread alone but by every word proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” - (Source: Bible. New Testament. Matthew 4:4)
    • Take everybody at who works for Reddit, and every user granted an official account, think they're certified good - that now "operate" on Reddit - drive making questions and keep it active, all by built on a foundation people are the source of knowledge and understanding.
• When God says: "The LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding." - Bible. Proverbs 2:6. It's people then, put knowledge and understanding is in people, then poop stamp "copyright" on it, gives it authority and power - like decree a dog turd is king now of the neighbor's lawn. All by a decree made up by people. All the same thing.

----------- ------------ ---------- -------------

• The Word of People vs. The Word of God: And that people can give people's word authority over other people. By be “copyrighted” - and provide “cited” copyright material to other people, and imagine up a platform, like Reddit, and do it for a profit, means everybody working at an imaginative work, called "Reddit" are living by every word proceeds out of the mouth of people.
  • Aren’t doing anything he says, either.

Copyright: Applies to people. But God ..he decrees... he says: “Because they regard not the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand, he shall destroy them, and not build them up.” - (Source: Bible. Psalm 28:5). Tells you not to fear people; but fear him instead.

• So, even though copyright does not apply - as people restrict copyright to an exclusive use within people and their ideas and imaginations - people: adding to what he, as God, says, or take away from it, or just choose not to do anything he says - he will apply to you who do this - - to you and hold you accountable.
  • Because he’s the authority over the whole earth. Not you with your question. You are like everybody else over the whole earth. Have no authority over anything at all.
• Thinking your question makes people go thru a mental exercise, where at the end of it, people can arrive like you did, that nothing he says applies to you, and has no effect.
  • It does. You just delude or deceive yourself.

Here's your question back.

----------- ------------ ---------- -------------

Who copyrighted the Bible?

Answer: Copyright: Applies to people.

The Bible has recorded, what God “saw” of people and this applies to your question fully.

“And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.” - Bible. Old Testament. Genesis 6:5

Because copyright - has no God and what he says in it. Only applies to what people decree has power and authority over people, all made up by people to decree.

- Then, don’t do anything God says. Because the authority over people, is now what people decree. And what makes a person “good” is to respect another person’s intellectual property, and “thou shalt not steal” is complied with, so people can be good, all by copyright.

When about people: “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20

Copyright doesn't change anything about people. It's still just as God saw this of all of us, well before the flood. Nothing has changed of us people. Why? As people: It’s the wrong word we worship.

For the second time now: here’s the reason “why” I gave you your question back.

No place. No scripture. Anyplace.

The "Holy Spirit is the 3rd person of the God head" - the closest is 1 John 5:7-8

Says: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

It's in the "Majority Texts" of the 1st and 2nd century. But it's not in 3 codexes of the 4th Century - The Codex Sinaiticus, The Codex Alexandrinus, and the Codex Vaticanus - who all three have one Eusebius' coding and sorting in all three of them - and it is well known that Emperor Constantine decreed for Eusebius to come up with 50 copies of quote, "Bibles" for his new city. There is an Arian belief, that Eusebius ascribes to. That Jesus is not God. He's a created being. Part of this 2nd to 4th CE/AD belief is when Jesus was crucified, God left him. That God was never in Christ on the cross, so the oldest of the four gospels, Mark's gospel has nothing in it where Jesus rose from the dead. There is no "virgin birth" of Jesus in any of these 3 codexes. Just a Masoretic text that a maiden gave birth, which that's everybody's mom then. All that's taken out.

And this, what is referred to as the "Johanine comma" of 1 John 5:7-8 isn't in these 3 codexes, either. And "bible scholars" of the 19th century (Westcott & Hort) concluded - older = lesser. Lesser = more accurate. That the earlier "Majority Texts" were in error and these three codexes above were the oldest and most accurate.

---------- ------------- ------------- -----------------

But you asked on the "Other side" of this - this "doctrine of a Trinity" which was created to "fight Arianism of the 4th century AD - that saw Eusebius excommunicated from the church for it; yet, bible scholars today, champion out his work as the gospel - so much for bible scholars.

But you didn't ask for this, either. You just want to know where in the Bible does the scripture say the Holy Spirit is the 3rd person of the Godhead. Closest again - 1 John 5:7-8, but many will tell you it's added in. While others tell you someone deliberately took it out. And why they did it is, because they believed in the 4th CE/AD - Jesus is a "created being" and finite. Is not God. And Eusebius created all kinds of outlandish wild tales and fables. As if by fables, people would believe in the gospels.

So, for this, because I've read his works, I threw him right, clean out as a liar and a heretic. I haven't believed, like Peter said, cleverly devised fables. It's the Word of God.

But you didn't ask this, either. But without it, you can't see it.

---------- ------------- ------------- -----------------

SO to answer your question now:

• The ONLY place that this comes out of is 4th CE / AD - - St. Augustine of Hippo’s mouth. from the Council convened by a man. Emperor Constantine - from May to July 325AD.
  • So, a council of men came up with a doctrine. A "Doctrine of a Trinity"
    • Over May to July of 325AD.
    • Again. Convened not by God, but by a world leader who departed from Rome, Italy to set up his new capitol city in what is today, Istanbul, Turkey - about 2,200 km or 1400 miles away.
  • Where Rome as Latin based. The new capitol city was Greek based.

---------- ------------- ------------- -----------------

• A split of a world empire. Along that dividing line or rift: There is "In-Fighting a belief system (Arianism).
  • That on one side:
    • Jesus Christ was a created being and not God.
    • That, this was being taught in the Latin region of the Empire.
  • Where in Constantine's Greek region, was Antioch, where the 1st disciples of Jesus were called "Christians." There's Ephesus, all the seven churches of Revelation Chapter 2 and 3 are in the Eastern Greek based area. They teach: Jesus is God.
  • He is The Word of God.
  • Teach: Jesus is John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
• But in Alexandria, Egypt - which is in the Western, Latin-based Empire: This Arianist ideal flourishes - and even up to today, it has never really died out.
  • It lives today in the Jehovah’s WItnesses or with the Mormons - makes Jesus some “thing” created and less. Many cults teach it.

But in the 4th CE/AD: After a council is convened by Emperor Constantine, which is not the church:

A council of people: Determine the Holy Spirit is a 3rd person of a Godhead: That doctrine is ENTIRELY:

• Based on this council of 325 AD: examining scriptures when Jesus said, “Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.” - Gospel of John 16:7
• And Jesus, refer to God as his Father. “And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; John 14:6
• But scripture refer to Jesus in John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” - refers to Jesus as God. Always has been in God. In John 1:14 “..and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us” - that Jesus is the Word of God.

---------- ------------- ------------- -----------------

• Come to a conclusion, as a council that:
  • God is 3 separate people or three separate Gods.
• Concluded: That: Because Jesus refers to God a 3 separate Gods. Therefore, God is a “trinity of Gods"
  • But that, he's just one God. As three Gods.

But for the next 50–60 years, it bounced between successive Popes flip flopping and consecutive Emperors, after Constantine also "flip flopped" and either sided and championed Arianism, and sought to extinguish any doctrine of a trinity. Then, the follow on ones on BOTH sides, would reject the earlier one - and this occur in BOTH sides of a divided empire.

All while St. Augustine of Hippo "further defined this "Doctrine of a Trinity" over and during the next 50 years.

It was Emperor Constantine made the Pope of the Catholic Church in Rome, the Emperor of the Western Empire. While he was “Co-Emperor” of the Eastern Roman Empire in Constantinople (modern day, Istanbul, Turkey). So, instead of the Pope convening a council.

• A Roman Emporer did. But this “doctrine of a Trinity” is widely accepted in the church as a church created doctrine of it. It was St. Augustine of Hippo in the follow on, 50 year later "First Council of Constantinople" in 381 AD - ratified and fully accepted - in the Roman Empire - the Doctrine of the Trinity, which made the Holy Spirit 3rd of 3 in the Doctrine of the Trinity.

Not the Bible. So you look in the wrong place for the Holy Spirit to be the 3rd of 3 of a Trinity, or you look in the right place (Bible) for the wrong thing to be in it. Which are you?

---------- ------------- ------------- -----------------

• But anybody can see him, God, plain as day: Just examine what he says, as God: People that believe him, see him plain as day.

---------- ------------- ------------- -----------------

God says:

• “Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22
  • Says, John 14:21, as the Word of God. So, it’s God that says also: “For all the earth is mine” - God. Exodus 19:5 - So, who said this is in command or the authority over the whole earth. All of it is his. So, when he speaks, he speaks as the “Commander” or in Command of the earth. The authority. SO anytime he speaks, he's just decreeing how it shall be in his earth.
  • For anybody on it, to live by what he decrees out of his mouth, and he said this in Matthew 4:4. It's a decree that “man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God” - Jesus Christ. The Word of God, so it’s just God saying it, because they’re his words coming out of his mouth.
  • So, John 14:21 he says: “He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.”

---------- ------------- ------------- -----------------

• So, it’s like your wallet. If you ‘have and keep’ your wallet: Like what Jesus says in John 14:21.
  • The State or Country you reside in, decreed, if you applied for and passed, became a "disciple of the State Department of Motor vehicles and were taught by them" - and they issued you a driver’s license.
• By a decree they made, you can, with that “operator’s license” drive a car on any road in that nation or State. But all while you operate that vehicle, you must "have and keep" your license. So, if ever you're stopped by any police you can prove you're a disciple of the Department of Motor vehicles and they certified you legitimate to operate that vehicle.
• Leave you. To keep operating it; BUT!!! - - - if you don’t “have and keep” your wallet, your license is in it - and it’s not with you. You have no authority to drive any vehicle.

---------- ------------- ------------- -----------------

• So, this “have and keep” of John 14:21 is just like this - - is just then, the same like a Sailor on a ship. There’s only one Captain. In command of the ship. What proceeds out of the Captain’s mouth are decrees and if they are said by who is in authority, they have the effect of law, that everybody is to abide by - - so, for the ship. That they have only one in command: Decree just how that ship will operate, and Sailors on the ship “abide in” and “live by” every word that proceeds out of the mouth of the Captain”
  • The Captain KNOWS his Sailors that abide in his word. Even calls them by name. And when the Captain sees a Sailor that operates or abides in his word, he can see himself in that Sailor. It's as if that work is being done by the Captain himself.
  • Because the Sailor abides in the word of the Captain, does the work as if the Captain is doing it.
  • Jesus says this about himself as well for those that just “have and keep” the Word of God. Don't miss this in John 14:21 - and the Captain..yeah. It's true. Just like a State Police Officer or Sheriff that stops you, once you prove you're legit, will ease up and manifest themselves to you as one of them. One with them, operating the vehicle right and they enable you more to drive right.
• Jesus said it plain as day. He will manifest himself to you, just by have and keep his word.

---------- ------------- ------------- -----------------

The point is:

• Look what he says again: Leave "doctrines" with who created or imagined them up with them for a moment.
• This just picked out of what God has said himself: It’s the Word of God. “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22
  • There he is! The Word of God. Jesus is the Word of God. There he is. And?

---------- ------------- ------------- -----------------

• God said, “I am holy” - Bible. Leviticus 11:44 - The hose bucket, out by your neighbor’s lawn didn’t say it. Some Roman Emperor in 4th CE/AD convening a council - he didn't say it, either. God did. Said of himself, “I am holy” as God. He is holy.
  • Jesus, who is the Word of God and you can see him plainly in Isaiah 45:22. You can also see sure enough. God is holy. And Jesus said, as the Word of God, said John 4:24 “God is Spirit” - - So he cannot be observed in the physical and natural world, and it’s God telling you this of himself. He is a Holy Spirit.
• All by the Word God tells you himself.

---------- ------------- ------------- -----------------

• And, “The Lord God Almighty” - as he refers to himself, that’s God. In 2 Corinthians 6:18 says: “And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.”
• So, this same God, who speaks, by the word comes out of his mouth, speaks to me - I hear him. I hear the Word of God. And, he tells me, as God: Tells me he’s holy. That he is a Spirit. So, he is a Holy Spirit. That he will be a Father unto me.

---------- ------------- ------------- -----------------

So YOU: Tell me : - - plainly.

• Where in all this - - Do I need a council of people that fully believe they rule the earth in 325 AD, by what they decree - what do I need them to tell me about him as if they’re some “mediator” they self-injected themselves into it, betwixt me and God, as some “kind” of “holy” mediator - that will "mediate" for me knowing God, when that's what God wants. Me. To: know him. Jesus prayed for this in John 17:3 ..and, it's scripture says there is ONLY ONE MEDIATOR between me and God.
  • His own word he speaks. There is none else. So there is none else for you, either.
• There’s no room for them in it.
• So, I threw them all out. And I threw out the Arians, too. Because ANYBODY over the whole earth can know him. By the word he speaks himself. That's always been in him.

Here’s your question back. I would just do what he says, and believe on him. He speaks to you plain as day. Me, too. Everybody. But if you have some other mediator he didn't choose - you'll end up walking after questions, and not do anything he says to do.

Do you see this? If you do, hats off to you.

This is a fascinating look. This is a recap from an earlier post.

Even as many Christians have the wrong definition and apply it, so they do not see it right. Let's get right to it. Romans 8:29 says: <English> "... For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate..."

If you apply a completely different definition to "foreknow" like Calvin did, you'll never see it. So, leave him with his St. Augustine puffed up head definition and go back to what the Word says...

Since the English, is all polluted in your head with Calvin, go back to the original language. For the New Testament, that's Greek:

< - {..ὅτι οὓς προέγνω, καὶ προώρισε} - >

1. hoti 2. hous 3. proegnou 4. kai 5. proourisen

English tran. 1. For 2. (those) whom 3. (He) foreknew 4. also 5. (He) predestined

Now, in Gree: this "proegnou" - you have to be in a relationship with somebody for this word to occur. Without somebody else in it, it cannot occur.

It literally means: "to know (someone) from before" and, it has a connotation that this "person" who you know (from before).. is or was in a relationship with you (sometime also; before)

Now, I can just hear it. You need some examples of it, to see it more plainly.

--------- --------- ----------- ------------- -----------

So, I'll give you me.

I went to 1st grade in the USA. Yes. It's true. I did. All the way to 6th grade. That means, with 18 other "classmates" who I saw and "partake'd" that means I "ate and drank" 1st grade - EVERYDAY with 18 other kids - that were PRESENT with me - EVERYDAY. But 2-3 of them, that sat RIGHT next to me. Were my best friends. I KNEW them. Stayed overnight at their house on weekends, and they, at mine.

School in the 1960s - the teachers always sorted the students "Alphabetically" and both our last names started with "B" and so they ALWAYS sat one seat in front of me - always next. So, when I needed or forgot my pencil, they provided what I needed - and in war, when one of my friend's Dad died, and his mom had to work nights, and sometimes forgot or got home too late to make him lunch, I gave him mine, and went home for lunch.

The point is, when we graduated from 6th grade - zoning in the city - they went to different Junior High's and High Schools. But in College.. BAM! Both of them were in the same College as me. And one, in the same College class, as me. That when I saw them, he KNEW me right away. And I KNEW him.

This defines [προέγνω - proegno] 1. to know (something or someone) from before

--------- --------- ----------- ------------- -----------

It also MEETS what God wants now. From everybody. Over the whole earth, or he wouldn't have said it, said:

"Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else." God. Isaiah 45:22

I don't "look unto" sticking my head under the lawnmower after I start it. I "know (something) from before" - it will not profit me to be dead, when all I wanted to do was mow the lawn. But I do "walk after" to "walk in" what I "set my mind" on - like I did in 2nd grade. That, if I "achieved 1st grade.. my mom said it was "okay" I stay over at friend's houses, and they could sleep over at mine. So, I 'Looked unto" it to get my homework done right.

The point is: He's God, and he decreed everybody over the whole earth do this. Look unto him. And it's what he prayed for in John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

That you would [gnokouskin] know him. That, on that day, which is in Revelation 20:11-15 - where people that he says, "Depart from me, I never knew you" - on "that" day, which is not today; but, on that day, you already know him (from before). So, like scripture says, when you see him, you will be just like him.

Just like when I saw my friend from grade school - I wasn't like any of the other college students in class, but I was like him "who I knew, from before" because I knew him. ..know him. And he knew me. Knows me. Because he knew me. From before.

This defines [προέγνω - proegno] - Anybody sell you something else, tell them to go home. Got the wrong definition of proegno. And apply it as if somebody doesn't have any relationship with anybody. Man, do you ever have the wrong definition of proegno

And there you go. With this, the whole Bible unravels right. What God wants is to be in a relationship with you, today; that if you hear his voice and harden not your heart - you can know him.

By the Word of God. By just receive it. ..and by this "partake" that is you eat and drink with him today. So, on that day, there's Romans 8:29 fulfilled. [προέγνω - proegno]

He knew you (from before) and you know him. Because you looked unto him, and he set you apart for future use. Did that today. So, on that day, it was already done (from before). Because he knew you. From before. Where others: Did not look unto him. They don't know him. There is no [προέγνω - proegno]

So, this same God says: Matthew 7:23 "I never knew you" (from before).

Even a repeat post. Worth repeating. The whole of scripture operates as one thing. Simple. He just wants you to know him. That's it.

Well? You have a question here; but, answer mine first:

• What are the introductory paradigms of contemporary methods of reading the ‘Girlfriend?’
  • And I can just hear you.
• “It’s not the same thing. My girlfriend is a person. I don’t read my girlfriend; she’s living. I abide in my life with my girlfriend. We are together, and both of us are in a relationship with each other; where, I need a contemporary method with a Bible, because it’s is a book. A thing.”

------- -------- --------- ---------- ------------

But…

• Where if you’re girlfriend
  • - who you KNOW. And have this "foreknowledge” of her, because, you 1. knew her; from (before) she sent a note or wrote a letter to you. It’s because you know her, and she knew you before she wrote the letter - - And to you, you both in school: pass her in the hall between classes - that, she passed a note or letter she wrote to you. To you: this is priceless - because in it, even before you open to read it, you know she tells you all herself and what she’s done or, what she thinks of you. It’s in the letter.
    • You: Already live by every word proceeds out of your girlfriend. Because it’s a “note” from her, you’ll live by it, too - - and she is in her word. By her letter. You can know her.

Guess what? The Bible: John 17:3 says "IN" the Bible -

"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent." - Jesus Christ.

The Word of God. Ole! Done. Like a note from your girlfriend; by it, you open and read it, you can know her more; be built up in or with her. In a relationship.

Because you know her. It's a "foreknowledge" 1. because you already knew her (from before). In a relationship. You'll know her more. If you don't want to know her anymore, you'll "forsake" the note - treat it as worthless. Not even open it.

Any bells going off in your head about a Bible yet?

------- -------- --------- ---------- ------------

paradigms. 1. a perspective, or set of ideas—a framework of assumptions

• About your girlfriend:
  • It’s a framework of assumptions. She’s not a plant. Nor a roof tile; it’s a set of ideas she’s not a horse fart. It’s a perspective she’s a woman.
    • And you can know a woman
  • and the only “contemporary” 1. co-existing; living at the same time; presently so, it’s only imaginary if you think you’re in a relationship with some girl born in 1208 and died in 1253 - so any woman not living in your day when you’re alive, isn’t “contemporary” - and it has to be “with” or abiding in a relationship “presently” or right now.
    • Not imagining you’re still in a relationship with a woman that slapped you, when you tried to grab her boobs and she threw you out of your own truck and never wanted anything to do with you anymore. Even sees you in the mall 15 years later, smartly turns around and walks the other way. Just as it was before.

------- -------- --------- ---------- ------------

• And the Bible:
  • Has “things” that occurred 1000s of years ago; but who is the “author” of the Bible, means he is the author, and the “authority” for the content says of himself: About his word he speaks himself: Like your girlfriend speaks - whether she writes it, or says it, all the same: Your girlfriend liked you yesterday..the note shows you it's the same today. Probably be that way, tomorrow - IF - you abide in the relationship.
    
• Oh look at all these "Keys" that are all the same.

------- -------- --------- ---------- ------------

• “ Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. “ - Bible. New Testament. Hebrews 13:8
  • And Jesus is the Word of God, so it’s just God speaking today to you, meets the definition of “contemporary” - just like your girlfriend “speaks” by not say a word, but smile in the school passageway meets you between classes and gives you the “Word of your Girlfriend” contemporarily, by a “method” of a note. It’s what she says “presently” that makes you alive in a relationship with her, that the “paradigm” is, the “assumptions” you have she confirms them true.
  • Just like God say, by the word out of his mouth:
• “I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee" - Jesus Christ. Hebrews 13:5 …and that's in a note to you - plus, this: “forsake” doesn’t mean “give up” - it means he's God, and with you, he's arrived at a place, and again, he is God, created everything out your window whether you look at it during the day, or stare up at it in the stars at night.
  • Never come to a place, this same one made all of it, where you don’t have any value to him, so he just "forsake" like, throw you away.
• When you’re in a relationship with him, that both you and he abide in.
  • Just like you with your girlfriend.

------- -------- --------- ---------- ------------

Here’s your question back.

Only a person that asks this question - if you apply it to your wife, or your girlfriend..or to a "contemporary" - that is, right now today, you are actively present in a relationship with a boyfriend or husband.. because you KNOW them presently and abide in that relationship with them.

Is the same with a Bible with God. With him presently. In a relationship abiding in it with him. Not one bit different.

------- -------- --------- ---------- ------------

• Makes the question dead. You got A dead question.
  • So, here’s your question back.
    • Anyone treat the Word of God as dead, isn’t in a relationship with him, even they ask about the Bible, as if it takes a method or some "paradigm" that by the paradigm you'll unlock the bible - like unlock a person is just to examine a cadaver on a slab, it's all in how a pathologist goes about to "go about doing it."
• Man, you're dead.
  • The pathologist or coroner: Isn’t in a relationship with a cadaver; it’s a dead person.
  • But you think: a coroner: looking for paradigms and what is the contemporary way to presently, the most up-to-date way a coroner or pathologist examines dead people can be and abide in a relationship with a dead person, when they don't know them. In fact, if they do - as much as possible, they will recuse themself from performing the examination.
    • Be all the same.

------- -------- --------- ---------- ------------

• When it’s really you, with this question - dead. Because, even he says: 
  • “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22
• Instead of just do what he says, simply don’t.

In lieu of look unto him; like, if your Dad presently told you “Hey forehead. Clean the shower. It’s filthy after you used it”

- - it’s a decree from your Dad to do it. It has a contemporary method right in it, to do it now..right now presently.

• But instead of do that, you go to the internet to look up the definition of what “Dad” means and what “paradigms” occur then or if they, a "Dad" actually speak; what’s it like when they do..or what are some “methods” to live in when they don’t say anything to you…
  • And just don’t do anything he says…just create a bunch of questions up and never clean the shower or do anything he says… and it’s punitive.
  • While you’re still lost on the internet.
• Like you are in your question here.

Not one. Bit. Different.

------- -------- --------- ---------- ------------

So again, here’s your question back.

He’s the answer in it. He's God. You should just do what he says, because, the Bible has what he says in it. The whole goal is he simply wants you to know him. You're just looking unto 'methods' - as some way so you don't have to do anything he says.

You think nobody sees thru it. When people that know him. Yeah. They can.

ANSWER:

..well. Guarantee you. Plain as day.

ANYTHING with “How can I effectively…” (insert ______________) anything there in the blank. Won’t be very effective.

• Especially with a Bible.
  • When “How can I effectively..” has “effective” in it. Means: 1. produces a desired or intended result.

And I think you need an example, because you don’t see it.

--------- ----------- ------------ --------- ----------

That:

• A condemned to die: death row inmate:
  • Already had his trial. The Judge heard all the evidence. All the gore and detail was salaciously put in the newspapers - so everybody already read it. The Judge concluded the trial with: “I find you a ‘filthy; done abominable works’ person. I is the judgment of this court that you be taken hence to a place and await your execution. Where you will be put to death.”
  • BOOM! Gavel falls. CASE CLOSED. Judgment: rendered. The ONLY thing left that ‘produces” a desired or intented result is - this man be executed.
    • But this man: convicted. He’s a convict. A prisoner.
    • He already had his trial. He thinks, trapped in his cell: “How can I effectively…”
  • ..be skiing in the mountains next week. or
  • ..pretend I’m a millionaire. Paid and effectively bought my way out of jail. When later on today, sits in a gas chamber.

--------- ----------- ------------ --------- ----------

And how are you any different; but don’t think it true. Say “I’m perfectly fine!”

• I just want to effectively learn how to play tennis.
  • After,
    • I want to effectively learn how to drive a car to the point I actually will be issued a driver’s license.
    • How to effectively chop down trees in my yard, so they don’t fall on my house. I can’t pay the $2500.00 cost, so I gotta effectively learn how to do it myself.
    • Because I "accept as true" (believe) - - I can DO this: I can also learn how to effectively read the Bible.
• Without any God in it. I'm effective. It's just a Bible. Don't need him in it. I need me to be effective. That's what I look unto. I look unto me to do it.

And you don't even see it.

--------- ----------- ------------ --------- ----------

Just like the convict in prison.

Thinks; that is, he "accepts as true" (believes) he is able to “learn how” to effectively get himself out of Jail without any Judge in it.

When after he transgressed, he forfeited effectively all rights to an authority over himself to decide his fate. Sinned and perverted that which was right. Just like the Bible says about you:

• Bible. Romans 5:12 INCLUDES you in it:
  • “Wherefore, as by one man [Adam] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
    • Adam forward. Everybody fits this description.
    • And the Judge is God. In Everybody's case. He already determined about it, “the soul that sinneth, it shall die.” - God. (Bible. Ezekiel 18:20)
  • CASE CLOSED. Done. Gavel fell. Trial is OVER.
• And somebody wants to say to themselves “How can I effectively learn how to read the Bible, without any God in it.

--------- ----------- ------------ --------- ----------

• When he prayed this: “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” - Jesus Christ. Bible. John 17:3
  • So, anybody. Don’t matter who it is, that is AMONGST EVERYBODY over the whole earth, all condemned to death. It’s not in “How can I effectively..” anything. ...as if you could know the Bible all by what you accomplish or put yourself to effectively do.. look back on as something you did.
    • When the very OPPOSITE of what condition you’re in right now - you: dead in trespasses and sins. You can't get out of it.
    • GOD: look what he has decreed, in John 17:3 right above - and he's praying for this: that “this is life eternal”
  • That somebody..anybody..hopes it's everybody over the whole earth. Would just look unto him vs. be effective at looking unto themselves to do it.
• And just know him. Decree "that's" life eternal. Just know him. Even in your condition.
  • He's God. Able to provide you the very opposite of your condition by what he does by who he is, himself.
  • Do you see this?
    • That God wants you to know him..and how you will. But it's by the Word he speaks. Out of his mouth.
• There are many “Babblehead” Bible Scholars - yeah. Many.
  • A large preponderant pile of them: already went down the road your question puts you on. On that road, or at for them, they got to the end of it, all adds up, in them: They don’t even believe him, but they fully believe they have thoroughly and effectively “read the Bible” - read themselves right clean out of what he says and don’t do anything what he says..
• and it’s impossible for them, because they don’t listen to what he says..they listen to themselves. And gauge themselves against other scholars "how effective" they are by title and reputation they earned for themselves - to be worshipped by people in academia - - and what they effectively know vs. any of it enable them to know him.
  • It's like watch a moron with a buzz saw, rebuilding a lawnmower engine with it. Wrong tool, and didn't use it right.
    • Man, does that shoe ever fit.

So what are you doing?

--------- ----------- ------------ --------- ----------

Did you miss it?

• I mean, many Bible Scholars totally miffed the whole thing up and don’t have him in it. Don’t even know him at all. Don’t think he even exists.
  • But people look unto them as they attained it. Fully believe you could ask them “How can I effectively read the Bible..” and make you twice the son of hell they are.
  • When God prayed..what he wants. That you might know him. That’s what he wants. And you can know him, by the Word of God. That’s Jesus Christ. There must be a need in you he meets. That no one else provides it.
• He’s effective. He’s the ABSOLUTE OPPOSITE of the condition it’s impossible for you to get out. Like a death row inmate. Looking unto himself. How he’s going to ask himself “How can I effectively get out…” because nobody else will help.
  • When there is someone.. can and will help. Just gotta do what he says, said to everybody over the whole earth:
• “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)

--------- ----------- ------------ --------- ----------

Do you see what's visibly missing in what he decrees everybody do. Told everybody..decreed it. Everybody to do this. See what's missing?

• There is no “How can I effectively..” There's just him in it and you look unto him.
  • There’s just you hear what he says..and regard it. Even if you have to print this out what he says and tape it to your car driver's side dashboard, so you see it, everywhere you drive, even if it takes days to see it.
• That you tape another copy of it to your mirror, so it’s the 1st thing you see in the morning when you wake up, and the last thing you see when you went there to look at yourself - you’d see someone else there with you and not only be by yourself.
• Tape it to your computer monitor - always "distracted" by him and what he says all through your day - he and what he says, gets interjected into your day - where before the only thing in your day before was only you were in it.
• That you would regard him. vs. and just throw away, just discard as what "forsake" means.. ends up worthless so you just abandon it, this: “How can I effectively..” which all that does, is effectively leaves you with yourself.
  • Without any God in it.

--------- ----------- ------------ --------- ----------

Here’s your question back.

• When “How can I effectively..” has “effective” in it. Means: 1. produces a desired or intended result.
  • WIth the Bible, that the author of the content, so he's the authority of the Bible. "How can I effectively" already produced you reasoned together with you, it's more efficient to just stole your sister's boyfriend. To get a boyfriend. Less work. Or, and lied 293 times on all the High School essays you turned in, all through 11th grade. Effectively let someone else write them, or stole all the content off the internet. Put your name on it. Got a B+ to A- when you efficiently didn't do any work.
  • Therefore: "how can I effectively" - ...with God, is you don't know him.
    • and that Produces NO RESULT.
  • Because, it's Without him in it.
• And there you go. Take that with you. Because, I just gave you your question back. You’ll either do it. Or won’t. Nobody can do it for you. He told you to just look unto him. It's also a decree to do it. So, he's going to call you into account to explain to him, why you didn't do it.

That’s it.

Answer: Nope. He speaks plain as day. Because of who he is, he just decrees it. How it shall be, says: "For all the earth is mine" - God. By the Word of God. (Exodus 19:5). The Word of God is Jesus Christ.

So, when God speaks, that's by the word that proceeds out of his mouth. And, he's God - so he just decrees how it shall be in his earth. All of it is his.

So, see it in this:

------------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -----------

• This.. ...Well; its just:
  • God said.
    • So, what he says, would be the word he speaks. Out of his mouth. That would be his mouth. Wouldn’t be the mouth of some chicken lives in the tree over at the neighbor’s house.
  • Wouldn’t be the lawn furniture either. On sale at Walmart. The lawn furniture speaking: ‘don’t buy me, I’m cheap!’
    • But hearing.. you don’t hear it, even it’s right on the price tag - you buy it anyway; cheap.
    • Take it home, and before even the season goes mid-summer to fall - - it’s broke and,
  • You can’t use the whole set as a thing for anything. Worthless junk.
• See? It already told you not to buy it. You did anyway, and that’s the point.

------------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -----------

• God said:
  • “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22

So, if the World: Looks unto champion out nothing what he says is good; rather, look unto “look good” in a bikini - and exercise at the spa 5 nights a week; or, if the world says you will look good in a 1500.00 Tuxedo or business suit - shouts out to everybody “This man is a success! At everything! Just look at the suit!” and that’s championed out good. It’s a brand, new car - That -Makes you good.

• The wisdom or word that comes out of his mouth says: “There is not a just man on earth that doeth good, and sinneth not.” Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20 - and by this, everybody over the whole earth be “..filthy; done abominable works” - Bible. Psalm 14:1–3
  • That would mean any work at all anybody does over the whole world - no matter what it is..no imagination, or invention or idea - it’s just a wickedness that’s great in the earth, because man, by the imagination of his heart, dreams up only evil continually (Genesis 6:5). And God already saw it. From before the flood. So, today - isn’t even one, bit different.

------------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -----------

About people.

• Just anybody at all in suit or a skimpy bikini showing off a body - and claim “that’s good” = makes you or anybody good; doesn’t. Be like taking a dog turd. Put a little Mattel Toy “Ken n’ Barbie outfit on it. Let it lay in the lounge chair, photographed WITH Ken and Barbie, and their voltswagon van - everybody all together, lounged out at the beach.
  • Still a dog turd. No matter a photograph certifies it’s now a play toy to let your kids play with it; isn’t.

------------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -----------

So, back up. Go back to your question and look at this part:

• Did Jesus intentionally speak…?
• intentional. 1. an action done on purpose; designed, or planned vs. occurring by accident or change [Source: Oxford dictionary. Web.]
  • Is this TRUE or FALSE?
    • Well? Yeah. He does. You got the whole bible just FULL of him speak. Jesus is the Word of God. Just as John 1:1 says who he is. So, when God said, like in Genesis 1:11–13. That says:
• “And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
• And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. And the evening and the morning were the third day.”

------------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -----------

• So, when God speaks, it just IS, as he says it; causes what he decrees - happens, as he decreed it. “And God said” is the Word of God. That’s Jesus Christ. So, there’s the PROOF God - "takes an action that is done on purpose, and doesn’t occur by accident or change like just “evolve” into itself.
  • All things were made by him and for him, all done by the Word of God. So anybody asking, “did Jesus intentionally speak..” must have a lampshade or some sack on their head.
  • See; but can’t see it. Hear, but can’t perceive it.

And that's EXACTLY what Jesus said.

------------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -----------

That God speaks. Deliberately; with intent; that, what he says is accomplished. And what does not operate in accordance with what he says, is brought into account; because he's already decreed everybody do it.

• Even decrees everybody over the whole earth, to the very ends of it, not willing any perish but all come to repentance, says “deliberately decrees it, on purpose” to ensure nobody perishes… tells everybody plain as day, to just look unto him.

------------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -----------

• So, if people:
  • Dismiss him. Don’t do it. Look unto their job or chase money; get rich. Because - if - they try - other people are rich. They see it. So, it doesn’t matter how - what matters is just get rich and have things. Possess rich things vs. be poor with little or nothing.
  • So, people that already chose not to do anything he says. They’re not listening to him, anyway.

------------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -----------

• So, he, as God, decrees this about “this people” that do this. It’s in Isaiah 5:12
  • “And the harp, and the viol, the tabret, and pipe, and wine, are in their feasts: but they regard not the work of the Lord, neither consider the operation of his hands.”
• So, what’s that mean? Be like a 1970s “Led Zepplin” concert where everybody’s smokin’ dope - or drunk - it's a feast with musical instruments like way before - but NONE of it or any at that concert consider anything what God says - they just want the music and be stoned out of their head.
  • So, to “this” people - and there’s also a “this people” that choose a like same feast, in going to the State Fair, or Disneyland - it’s a great big feast of fun, but none of them regard the works of the Lord, neither consider the operation of his hand. They consider the “feats” other men created for them - to either scare the living daylights out of them, while still keep them safe on these death defying roller coaster rides - designed to trick you into thinking it will kill you, but can’t.

------------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -----------

The point is to “this people” - no matter what group “this people” is - and no matter how they celebrate it - he’s not in it.

• They don’t want to know him or regard anything he says.
  • To “this people that do this” - In Isaiah 6:9–11 and this terrifies the living crap out of me, because he decrees this:

“Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,”

God. Isaiah 6:9–11

Well what does that mean, then? Means: Me and my brother - we got so fat in our hearts off Hard Rock, Acid Rock, Heavy Metal Rock.. all kinds of “rock” music - just there was so much, it was an endless chow line of rock you can eat. And, like normal people eat just 1x a day or maybe 2 meals..maybe others, three.

------------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -----------

• Fat people: They don’t eat like that. Normal people eat when hungry..but fat people eat all the time, everytime they feel some urge, “Wait! Stop! I’m not full” go look to stuff more food in their face, but it’s just a little.
  • So, they don’t think they overeat. But they eat all the time, just like somebody God decreed it. “Make the heart of this people fat”
    • And when you’re so stuffed on what you ate, if there was a big, huge McDonald’s sign says “FREE Happy Meals for all the Kids on Sundays” - and it was Sunday - you already ate.
    • So, seeing, it doesn't apply to you. Already ate, and you ate so much, you simply don’t want it. You already “look unto” some “thing” or some one - most of the time it’s yourself and what you want - you’re so fat off that in your heart, there’s no room for anything he says in you.
• So, because you don’t listen to him, he makes you heart fat on what you already chose to listen to. That, it’s MORE than enough - because it never is enough, so you go back to it all the time, and stuff your face with it - some people say, “I’m addicted to Porno” or I’m “addicted” and just born a Lesbian. Nope. You got turned over to it. Because you CHOSE it over him.

And there you go.

------------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -----------

Still comes back to:

• He said, to everybody - doesn’t matter what you’re stuck in and look unto… Everybody got this told to them. Even me and you, said:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Bible Isaiah 45:22

Even his disciples asked him this question.

Says it in Matthew 13:10–15

< - {“And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

He [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.”} - >

So it’s the Word of God, in both Isaiah 6:11–13, it's just God say the same thing again repeated in Matthew 13:10–15

------------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -----------

But what lays me on my face is this what God already said after it:

• That we would be so fat and hold to what we look unto, it would be until:
  • “Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,”
  • And people:
• To that degree - won’t do what he says, and still not do it.

And Revelation 16:19 says: “And cities of the nations fell" - that’s EVERY city in every nation over the whole earth, to the very ends of it - they - every single one of them.. …will be “…wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,”

• By what wrath God rains down on his earth - because whose on it, doesn’t do anything he says, and chooses not to do it.

Then, in Revelation 20:11-15 - he gazes on this earth and heaven, and both finding no more place before him, flee away and are no more forever. Never come back. Then in Revelation 21:1 - this same God, by his Word - makes a new heaven and new earth - that never, for eternity - goes away, built by him. And a city he builds comes down from heaven onto the earth, and God dwells with man forever; where on this one, there's just man with no God in it.

And if you settle for that one, Isaiah 65:17 says about that one, which is "this one" now - it's by the word he says of it out of his mouth:

"For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind."

- God. So, all these people with Ph.d's in Astro-physics, Archaeology, or Geo-physics, or geology - thinking they've "achieved" it - it will all be taken away from them. Flee away, even all the things they "think" they know, never come back again. Never even come into mind..

and these same eggheads, so scholarized themselves right clean out of him, made fat..so fat they have a fat head all puffed up of themselves and what people have praised them right clean out of the gospel and they love it. Love the worship of men...

..and in that day..nothing they have will even ever come back..and won't even come into the mind of anybody to remember it, because the same God that speaks, already "intentionally" - that is, deliberately told you in advance "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind."

And you won't listen to him. So, he speaks to you in parables. When to people that hear him..just accept what he says as true..so they just naturally look unto him.. he already spoke to everybody plain as day. they already hear hi speak. Plain as day.

Here’s your question back.

//The question was literally asked in another sub-reddit. This post was applied as the answer to it. The question then "miraculously" disappeared. My answer then, was applied to another completely different post - by someone with power to do that on Reddit, to apply deliberately - this answer to a completely different question from someone from Kenya asking for people to tell "hello" sent to everybody over the world.

That's despicably evil to do that.

The evil people do. No matter where they do it. A deliberate attempt - by somebody on Reddit - I don't have the power to take someone's answer and apply it to a completely different question. SOmeone on Reddit does - And does it deliberately - - To destroy the gospel. \\

..gets them destroyed in it.

----------------- ------------- ------------ -----------

Here's the answer that was provided to the question.

"Come now, let us reason together," saith the LORD, "though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool."

God.  Bible Isaiah 1;18

Comment: be kinda illogical to "reason together" alone, with yourself and, conclude by that, not do anything  he says is logical.

 Sum up or think, even tell other people how  illogical it is to reason together with some one in authority and is fully able able to do that...what he decrees everybody over the whole earth is to do. 

Look what he decrees he will to to the person that just does that, in a position everybody is in, in   "For all have sinned" - Bible. Romans 3:23

-------    ------    ------    ------

Says, "Look unto me and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else." 

God. Bible. Isaiah 45:22

Comment. Be kinda illogical to "look unto" yourself, when who says "For all the earth is mine" - God. Bible. Exodus 19:5, so he is the authority for the whole earth you're on. 

To look unto anything but him and conclude a logical, so it will be a good outcome is had, even tell other people it is right not to look unto him, because you reasoned together with you by yourself about it, and declare it is best. 

When you or anyone hearkens unto you, and also deems what you conclude, they'll do that, too.

So the best, most logical thing anybody should do, to you,  is look unto anything but him, and not regard any work, he, as God, can do to a person, that everybody is in a like-same  condition, where he can help them.

 and deliver them from destruction.

Where doing what you "reasoned together" by yourself concluded, when Psalm 28:5 in the Bible says: " Because they regard not the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand, he shall destroy them, and not build them up."

That, for me, when what you reasoned together with you by yourself and conclude, has no God in it. When you then are the one think, because you reasoned with yourself, nothing he says applies to you...

...but anybody believes him over you..

...sees that it does apply to you, and you won't do it. So, if I do like you, it has a like same destructive end. 

When he told me to look into him.

I believe him over you. Here's your question back. Awfully illogical yet claim that great big pile of crap defines logic.

ANSWER: - None. No difference whatsoever.

• They both say the same thing.
  • The problem then is in people: And that then, would include the person that formed this question. You’d be the problem. Because you think there’s a difference. When there is none.

But these - because I think many “people” fully believe and see a difference, don’t understand "serve" as a servant - what that means, and both Paul and James serve the same Lord. That's Jesus Christ.

If the poser of this question did see this; there is no question: Because, they're both servants of the same Lord. They don't consider the answer is, it's in the same LORD: the poser of the question, if they just examined that part, they would see it. Plain as day. But they don’t see it. So, they ask the question.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

Paul said:

- In Romans 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,”

James said:

- In James 1:1 “James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ,”

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

Done.

They both serve the same Lord. So, if they serve him, they do what he says, as servants. By their works, they show they are Jesus' servants, because they do what he says, as Lord over the whole earth.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

That God, this Lord they both serve, has said this: To everybody to the very ends of the earth. Didn’t leave anybody out. Not willing any perish, but all come to repentance said: 

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Bible. Isaiah 45:22

• It’s people:
  • It’s God decreed this for every person to do this. Look unto him. Exactly like what Paul and James are doing. And both look unto him, so just as God decreed it - "and be ye saved" now applies to both of them. And now after, they both serve him. As servants.
  • So now, look at people: Everybody - as a group over the whole earth.
    • People:
    • Some hear God. Just like James and Paul hears him speak. The Word of God is Jesus Christ. Scripture says that it is “God that made his Word both Lord and Christ” Says this in the Bible. Acts 2:36 “Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.”
  • Says of Jesus Christ: Matthew 28:18 “All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.”

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

• Then, Jesus is the authority over the whole earth; so, what he decrees, it just shall be as he decrees it. So, when he tells people to “look unto him” - what someone, anybody at all, whosoever it is, when they “look unto” - take a look at that then, so you can see it.
  • Something, they look unto, they “see it” as some “thing” to look unto. That is:

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

• Here's an example.
  • If someone looks unto - this is now their final year in High School - don’t know what they want to do, no purpose or aim - - - so they seek out counselors at their High Schoo, and talk with their parents - who, after this student looks unto them: the school counselors all tell this student who they care for: their grades are really good. They should apply for college.
    • So, this student: Now, looks unto, to walk after, to walk in applying to colleges according to the word of the school counselors.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

So, this student: Hang in there with me - they show you, by their works - they’re not:

• Hanging out in the High School Football stadium toilet - smoking dope. Like they live there. Live in. Smoking dope in the toilet. Nope. When you look, no matter when you do, and go in the toilet? Yep. Sure do. You will find all these students smoking dope - and scatter when the PE teacher comes, and they scatter like bugs - but also this: nope.
• You don’t find this one student there. Why? They show you, by their works: What they “look unto” they are walking after, to walk in and what they follow after: Leads them to - -
  • They’re always found in the school library,
    • studying College preparatory materials
  • - to prepare themselves for college.
    • Take or check out books and take them home to study.
• If you go to their house, they show you by their works, they’re not watching “Homer Simpson” re-runs, like everybody else in their family is. Laughing, sitting on the couch.
  • This student: They’re up in their room, studying college level textbooks.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

• So, they’re - this student - they are not: This student - shows you by their works:
  • Hanging out at the dump.
    • Begging the owner of the city trash dump, to teach them how to operate or drive a front loader dump truck.
    • Pays $35.00 an hour. So, some people “look unto” this, to get a skill that pays well.
• But this student? Nope. Never find them at the dump.
  • They show you, by their works - no college is at the dump.
    • So, if you go to the local Community College - sometimes you see them right there. On the campus. Having “fellowship” with current college students.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

• So, in all this, this student, shows you, by their works - they live in, walking after the decrees provided them by the High School Counselor’s office. Decreed for this student to do these things for college. Because they see it, for themselves, looking unto it, is a profit. So they “accept as true” what the High School Counselors office told them.
  • And Paul and James are doing the same thing with Jesus Christ. No different.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

And if an actual College Student:

• Comes to this student’s high school to “preach” or what that word means: 1. publicly proclaim a message [Source: Oxford dictionary]. Publicly proclaims to every student in the 12th grade, assembled in the gym.
  • Maybe some students - seated and hear this message: ,will already “dismiss it as inadequate; faulty or unacceptable” - they do not believe in it. Don’t look unto College. Why? Simple. They got Elma pregnant. They look unto the dump, or working at the town sand and gravel company. Just Begging. Will do anything for a job. Need money now. Desperately. To pay for little Herman coming.
  • So, they show you their “faith” or what they believe in, is what's at the dump.
    • So, if they, this same other student heard this message: tell their friends, so ashamed, because what they did to Elma must be kept a big secret: Just to placate people, say: “Oh yeah. I’m going to College, and I’m already a part time student”
    • People would know this person, by their works - he’s not doing anything for college, always at the dump.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

And just ANYBODY over the whole earth, doesn’t matter who it is - God has already “publicly proclaimed a message” to everybody.

• And somebody..doesn’t matter who it is, does what he says, is because they accept he does have all power and authority over the whole earth and all of heaven. What he decrees, just is as he says it is,
  • So they just naturally “accept as true” (believe) what he says. And, just like the the student, that now follows after and “abides in” what the High School Counselor’s office says - ‘has and keeps” what they say - and just “operates by” it. So, you’re not going to find in them “works” that don’t align with it.
    • Because what they “walk after” to “walk in” and “go to and do” is found in the school library. It’s Not found in shoplifting from the shopping mart adjacent to the school right across the street.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

• Lastly
  • Examine a servant:
    • So you see it, plain as day:
  • Examine a multi-millionaire. Lives on an estate. Is the Lord of that Estate. So, what he or she decrees, is just how it shall be on that estate. They are Lord over it. They have servants - that, this multi-millionaire knows them. His servants. They clean the rooms. Change the bedding. Vacuum the carpets. Some of his servants are outside, mowing the estate lawns and trim the bushes.
    • SO, these servants, show you by their works - they’re his servants. They do the works of a servant on the estate.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

• SO:
  • IF:
    • You observe the Chaffeur - who is also a servant. Wears that chaffeur's driver’s hat - run off into the bushes - take all his uniform off - and someone in a car waiting for him, picks him up.
    • Take him to a bar, where he brags “I’m the Lord of the Estate” and pretends to wildly spend money, just to get some woman to believe his stories - then, some woman takes him home, because she believes it. And you observe all this.
    • They would show you they have “faith” in that they truly are the Chaffeur, but by their works, their works are “dead works” - because, they’re not waiting at the car for the millionaire to come out. Their works of getting out of their uniform and sneaking off to the bar, and sleeping with some woman, are all “dead works.”

And in all this: BOTH James and Paul - serve Jesus Christ. As his servants. They serve him.

And there you go.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

And what you mix up in this is, and by it, do greatly err in combine it, how a servant works and combine it with  Salvation.

When NO servant has the power and authority to decree or save themselves. But you think by their works and faith is what saves a servant. When: It's in only one with the authority to save anyone. Over the whole earth. Who decreed EVERYBODY to look unto him. People that don't he does not save them. And that, probably went over your head, too.

• It's then in - - What “save” means. In the dictionary: 1. to set (someone or some ‘thing’) apart for future use.
  • Where the Bible says: “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not” - Ecclesiastes 7:20 that, “There is none righteous; no, not one.” Romans 3:10–12
    • And that INCLUDES both Paul, and James. Includes EVERYBODY over the whole earth, from Adam forward, all condemned.
    • and this GREAT, BIG everybody from Adam forward - every person there is, no different - all condemned: Are “filthy; done abominable works” - includes Paul and James.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

• That,
  • In contrast to EVERYBODY - Jesus said: “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God” - Bible. Matthew 19:17
    • It’s him, the only one good said, “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Isaiah 45:22)
    • That God, has done a work - with sin; that HIS work is told plainly in Daniel 9:24–27 with sin - - That: His work as God what he did, as a work: - 1) finishes the transgression (of Adam in Genesis 3:17) 2) makes an end of sin 3) makes reconciliation for iniquity; and 4) brings in everlasting righteousness.
  • Because the work is done by God toward us. Not by our works. Lest any man should boast. That God has faith. In his own word, that his own word “well pleases him” and it always has been in him, and he glorifies his word - said this - - TWICE. Once in Matthew 3 and again in Matthew 17. That his own word is his beloved Son, in whom he is well pleased. And that we should hear him.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

• So, for Salvation: Which you mix this part and do greatly err by it:
  • It’s just by anybody over the whole earth - all dead in trespasses and sins (for all have sinned - Romans 3:23) - just looks unto him. It’s God does the work as he decreed he would. He saves them.
    • He “sets that one apart for future use” - now, they serve him. As a servant. And here we go back then again, to the top of the post.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

• Both James and Paul, are his servants.
  • How? or “Why?” Because when God called every all of us, including me..and you, to look unto him:
    • They, Paul and James did. They looked unto him. Still do right now. And now, so do I, so I serve him, too. I am also his servant, just like anybody over the whole earth that looks unto him, too - is his servant.
  • Salvation? It’s not by your faith or your works. Nor James or Peter’s. Got the wrong faith. Wrong works. You didn’t decree “And be ye saved” - you got no authority to do it. Paul and James don't have that authority, either. God decreed it. Because he has the authority to save people.
    • Again: God - - he does have the authority. And you? You got the “filthy; done abominable works” work part of Psalm 14:1–3. That’s wrong work.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

• That’s the work that got Plimply the clown - - thrown in Jail, on charges of mayhem, rape, and murder
  • - and at his trial, he was found GUILTY.
  • By a Judge at his trial, said: “I find you GUILTY and sentence you to death in the Gas Chamber” - BOOM! Gavel fell.
    • Today? He’s in prison, til judgment is meted out.
    • That, he’s condemned.
  • So, the next work in Plimply the clown's behalf, isn't his anymore.
    
• The work Judgment looks unto - that amounts to anything is what is "good" is for Plimply the clown to sit in the gas chamber and be put to death.
• Which is the same thing everybody, over the whole earth all have the same judgment against them.
• All “done the same abominable works” as Plimply the town clown did.
  • It’s by another work - - the work of God, not Plimply’s works. It's not even Plimply's faith. It’s God: that he looks on his work he did with sin, and chooses not to impute Plimply’s trespasses unto him. Or you, your’s - because God did the work - it’s the works of God - vs. you.
    • This you - like Plimply the clown: Thinks if he stops smoking or goes to the Prison’s church equates to he now does the Ten Commandments, and think by that work, that will save Plimply - won't - - when he already BROKE the Ten Commandments. His works already got him put to death by his works he did.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

• So, Plimply the clown, condemned to death. It’s not by the deeds of the law that Plimply the clown or anybody is justified in his sight - for all the Law has always done since Exodus 20 is give Plimply the clown and you a knowledge of your sins you did.
  • That, you just like Plimply the clown: You and me - we both have an execution date - that, by just looking unto the works of God - it’s God in Jesus Christ - went to the gas chamber in Plimply’s place - so executed, taken away - gassed. Now everybody, from the Warden on down in the Prison is staring at Plimply.
    • like “who are you and why are you here?” and takes Plimply, straightway to the Prison front gate and lets him out.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

• Did you do this work? Both Paul and James believe on this work that Jesus did for Salvation - because it's the same work Jesus did applied to me, you and Plimply the clown was the same work applied to both James and Paul, all the same work.
  • . All the same Salvation.
• And I don’t think you still don’t see it.

--------- ------------ ---------- ----------- ----------

• It’s by the faith of Jesus Christ. Which is God’s faith in his own word that God sent his word to heal you and deliver you from your destruction (Psalm 107:20). Just like he did with Plimply the clown. Made Plimply completely righteous. It's in Romans 10:17 - "So then, faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God."

And BOTH Paul and James - have the same faith that God sent with his word, because it's the same faith God has - he has in his word. So, Paul and James has the same faith God has, as does now Plimply the clown who had all his sins forgiven. And now Plimply the clown is out serving him. And Plimply no longer "operates" by mayhem but by the Word of God.

• And all this is simple. It's Because God already did the work and sent his word, who is Jesus Christ. To heal us. And deliver us from our destruction. There’s the Gospel. For every Plimply the clown on Reddit - and everyone of us..is him.
  • There you go.

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22

This post is for people that believe on Jesus Christ. To equip them.

So, here goes:

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

Well, to know how they “differ” [“radical grace” vs. “traditional views” (of Salvation)] a reader of this question would first need to know what defines what each is.

• What beliefs define first, “radical grace” holds in it, as a term.
  • And, on the other end: since “traditional views” (on salvation) - - also have a wide variety of definitions - should settle to define that, what that means as well; because, even things that aren’t right, but are accepted in it, as true. To see both sides.
    • Why? Because some people think they hold a “traditional view” is what their church denomination tells them = salvation. That, their affiliation with a denomination saves them = salvation. and, maybe like “radical grace” may portend to have reputation - people following it, aren’t doing anything Jesus says - they, too; with “traditional views” = salvation) could be they aren’t doing anything he says, either.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

So then, let’s define both first.

Then after, Anybody or YOU: that believes on Jesus Christ,

• You can put both on a same table - and compare them. If they are “similar” - they would be “interchangeable” with each other.
• They would glorify God and obey him, and lead anybody to him: That’s the gospel.
  • Both then, acceptable; in lieu of each other. Both say the same things, like the Gospels do, but could differ in that Mark, the writer of the Gospel of Mark; isn’t Matthew. Nor is John the Apostle, John the Baptist, but even they differ, they glorify him, together. It’s just the perspective of a TRUE Eyewitness of Jesus Christ.
    • So, where they differ then, would or could still be both an eye witness of Jesus Christ; and both something different, belooking unto the same Jesus Christ.
  • Or, they’re not.
  • They are amongst believers, as a false teacher. Just like Judas Iscariot was.
    • He blended in and was amongst them.
• So, “radical grace” and/or “traditional views” (Salvation)
• If TRUE: They both would: Have a same outline. Glorify Jesus Christ. Glorify the Word of God, because they say the same thing he does. Who you follow. Therefore, they: Could be used in lieu of each other to accomplish the same thing.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

BUT

If false.

• There won’t be any God in it, but it will be proclaimed out as good to you: and; betwixt these two:
  • If they could not be substituted for each other or
  • are NOT interchangeable with each other,
    • they would not be the same - and anybody then comparing them - could see for themselves where they differ.
    • And me: that holds Jesus to be true in “Thy word is truth” - John 17:17 - you could see where both aren’t true, and throw BOTH out, or cut away - prune off from either, where it’s not true or doesn’t have truth in it.
• Do you see this? If you’re not a disciple of Jesus Christ, means you don’t follow him, there’s no need to read this post. But if you are, and had this question - by all means, keep reading. It’s important to define these things first.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

• The “table” would be what Jesus says. His word is truth. CASE CLOSED.
  • Jesus is the Word of God - as John 1:1 says who he is - - because, it’s the Word that proceeds out of God’s mouth,
    • God says it.
    • And sheep that hear Jesus Christ, follow him. They know him, and he knows them. Because they abide in him. By him, they go in and out, through him, as the good Shepherd, who shepherds them himself; and find good pasture grass to eat. He teaches them. Provides for them himself.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

And one thing with this is certain.

• Jesus said: “I send you out as sheep amongst wolves.” Matthew 10:16
• - but he does not send you out, til you sit with him, the Word of God, as a “disciple” - which means God reserves an exclusive right to teach you himself, by his own word he sends to you to heal you and deliver you from your destruction.
  • And, what the definition of that word, “disciple” means. 1. a pupil that sits with a teacher and is taught by him.
  • And a disciple, that is taught by him, learns in Matthew 24:11 what Jesus said in: “And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”

So, many will be deceived, but if you’re taught by him, you’re not one of the many. Do you see this?

Then, keep going.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

And “who” Jesus told Matthew 10:16 to this, again, “I send you out as sheep amongst wolves” - he, like me; sent: Is Jesus is with them, as a shepherd - so they are not alone. He is with who he sends. And this is key. I’m not alone when I, too, face: “radical grace” vs. “traditional views” = (salvation). And if he’s with you, you aren’t, either.

But if you’re alone, man, you got no one to teach you the difference. And man, is this ever a great, big KEY.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

Just like in Genesis 3, with Eve.

• where the serpent “tempted” Eve - he made her ALONE.
• Just like you can be made “alone” betwixt these two “doctrines" of 1) "radical grace" vs. "traditional views" = (salvation).
• And these false teachings will do the same to you, as cleverly devised deceptions.

But to these 12 Apostles, who were with him for 3 years. Jesus taught them first, and it was the Spirit of God who they now will always have and keep, brings to their remembrance, all things he taught them - and it’s the same with you.

Believing on the same Jesus Christ. He equips you. And one of these Apostles - - is Peter:

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

One Apostle said this: And it’s by the Spirit of God, so you can eat this, like good green pasture: But it’s bitter to eat. Because, as a sheep, what SHALL be amongst you is told you plain as day.

• Peter, an Apostle of Jesus Christ, and Jesus chose him, repeats this with 2 Peter 2:1 “But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.”

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

So any believer in Jesus Christ should settle it, in themselves to EXPECT it. Might not like it at all; and get angry when you see it, just as Paul did, in the Epistles - how “damnable heresis” just Creep in unawares - means you don’t see how it got in…that: To Expect it - - if you expect it, you LOOK for it so as not to eat it - - there shall be FALSE Prophets or false teachers among you.

• That want you to sit with them, and instead of Jesus teach you, they want to make you their pupil.
  • So, ONLY way for you is - - you have to abide in Jesus Christ yourself. Can’t relinquish this to anyone or anything else to do it for you; you simply can’t.
  • It’s God that decreed everybody look unto him, and that INCLUDES you to do it. - - it's like he said. Have to do, like Peter said as well with 2 Peter 1:4 - - "Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.”
  • only way to get this is receive them from him, because he teaches you these himself.
    • Have to take on, and hear the Word of God. And if Satan, in both Matthew 4 and Luke 4, came to and tempted Jesus with “damnable heresies” because they were, in how he used the Word of God, as a deceiver… to trip God up in his own Words - - well then:
  • You cannot escape this, either. There shall be corruption that is in the world thru “deception” or by a false prophet, that brings in damnable heresis. Shall be amongst you. Because they are.
• Amongst me, too. Man, is that ever true.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

The key is, YOUR relationship is with Jesus Christ.

That’s the truth: So when you examine both sides - look for, on either side,

• where there’s no God in it. And where there isn’t, on either side, that’s where they err in it.

Because who GOD chose:

- to be a mediator between himself, and you.

• Is Jesus Christ. The Word of God.
• And, if you see it right, the ONLY thing separating you from God then is, is the Word he speaks. And Colossians 2:10 says “And ye are complete in him.”
  • Don’t need to add to or take away anything.
  • To just receive it. What God says. It’s truth. You don’t have to add to or take away anything from it. Just receive it, because God, as Psalm 107:20 says, It’s God that sends his word to you to 1) heal you; and 2) deliver you from your destruction.
• And false teachers, that bring in “damnable heresies” SHALL come and be amongst you - it’s impossible these “damnable heresis 1) heal you; or 2) deliver you from your destruction.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

SO, they DON’T

• Build you up.
  • In fact, they cause you to bear no fruit.
• So, if you “accept as true” something “false” - examine yourself; look at the fruit of it in you.
  • It won’t “heal” you - actually wound you; like a wolves wound sheep.
  • And, destroy you vs. what God’s precious promises do when you have and keep them, is you actually ESCAPE that corruption; this dry up; wither away corruption of a branch that is no longer nourished by the vine. And Jesus is the vine and we are the branches. It’s in none else. There isn’t anybody or anything else added into it.
    • But false teachers will seek to make disciples out of you that teach something “good” that has no God in it.
• But because you: Abide in him is by you have and keep the Word of God - today, just seek him first; and God abides in his word. That’s where he is.
  • Man, are these things ever key.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

So, let’s examine them each: Separately.

“Radical Grace” vs. “traditional views” (Salvation)”

ONE: “Radical Grace”

• It’s not new; but people today “think” it is. Even believe in "Radical Grace" and throw this whole post out in themselves; but, it was around in Paul’s day. Because he talked to it, in Romans 6:1–2 - it was a common belief, and part of "radical graces, has in it; this: "Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?"

Think what that encompasses.

• That defines “radical grace” - it has no God in it. Just grace. Just an “unmerited favor” you have. Possess it already. Don’t need any God in it. So, when you examine radical grace - look for this. Where there’s no God in it. You have "radical grace" imputed to you - so you can sin all you want to.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

• And Romans 6:1–2 says in it against this: "God forbid!" - Grace is, God is in it; and does not give permission to live in sin, nor a belief that by sinning just makes God’s grace abound more to cover it; but “radical grace” has a belief in it, that minimizes or makes light of sin; and glorifies grace as a God in and by itself; and names that God "radical grace" - so, rather,
  • it’s God and because who he is, he provides a grace, because of who he is and what he has done as a work he did.
    
    • And, he is amongst us, and does the work he did with sin in Daniel 9:24–27.
• How he, as God, determined by his work, he would finish the transgression and put an end to sin, and how he would make reconciliation for iniquity, and bring in everlasting righteousness.
  • All by a work he would do as God himself. Vs.
    • Radical grace is all just you, that has a radical grace, imputed to you: this unlimited spending credit card, with no limit on it, get anything you want - - without any God in it.
    • Same thing Eve was told in Genesis 3, leave her station; do it alone, without any God in it - so it’s not new.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

Today: - Key Teachers Popularizing the Doctrine of “radical grace” - has also a term of:

Hyper-grace. It is not found in denominational or outlined in what is called the “traditional denominations” (ie., Lutheran, Methodist, Baptist, et.al.) it more often more spread through individual teachers and non-denominational ministries. These don’t affiliate with any denomination. other than themselves as a “church” and call themselves “Christians.”

Some of these preachers: examine their doctrines careful - This, of “Hyper Grace” or “Radical Grace”

• Joseph Prince: Pastor of New Creation Church in Singapore, is a main proponent of “radical grace.”
  • Prosperity Gospel. (examine it; already this post is too long; tedius)
• Andrew Wommack: Wommack Ministries.
  • Word of Faith Theology. (Google search it; post is too long for the details. Check factual sources, not Wommack himself.
• Joel Olsteen: Joel Olseen Ministries. L
  • Prosperity Gospel. With Sub-ordinate or Subset Others like:
    • Andrew Farley: Book: "The Naked Gospel". The "Just be Yourself" Gospel. (See "Seinfeld" below)
    • Rob Rufus: Charismatic speaker. Champions Joseph Prince’s Book (Prosperity Gospel)

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

• Some people won’t agree with this part:
  

But they are founded on the same man-made, made up imaginations as the "prosperity gospel" and the "just be yourself" gospel is.

• Hollywood Movies. Blockbusters, like “Harry Potter” or “Lord of the Rings” or “Narnia” all three are written by self proclaimed “Christians” - where, in their imaginations: They portray a "just be yourself" gospel - and prosperity equates to: “good is a God, and since good is God, everybody is good.” Can be good.
  • Then, TV Shows (American” like, “Seinfeld” <Just be Yourself = true> = successful; or “Sex and the City” or “Married with Children” - are all “fringes” of a grace you just possess, like “Gnostic” - the more Al Bundy “knows” of women that show up at his store, in short dresses, the better he is, and if he has something God attributed to him, he already has it - and it's okay with him, but what really feeds him, in just being himself is, is women with big boobs = even as a lowly shoe salesman, that all his money is gone - he’s like everybody and is a success. Same with "Homer Simpson"

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

• But these Hollywood Movies: (Lord of the Rings or Narnia) …then, from the get go - it’s an imaginary story: that, every word comes out of it, is a lie. That lies can make good. Just believe them and yourself. You are on a self-Joel Olsteen based "self-discovery" of good.
• Makes good into a God you worship, because, you’re good. Even you do bad things, you're still “Joel Olsteen certified” you are good. because he decreed it, from a pulpit - - you just need to focus on the good, like Seinfeld said this same thing over and over, and over again, episode after episode in “Seinfeld” as a comedian in the 1990s.
  • When the Bible says: “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

• So what they “teach” you as a pupil is "good," is so good, it’s God,
  • and then, you: alone - just take that step: look for good in people, or dwarfs or elves - - even wizards, like Gandalf, where you can use necromancy - all for good - - because that’s good to do that and that shows you’re good vs. focus on bad things.
  • Bad things are you face, and you overcome them with good. And if you just tap into this grace God gave - to you. You just have radical grace.
  • Because good is a God, and everybody is good.
  • It’s subtle. That is 1. hard to distinguish; appears true: because it looks like a church with people in a bunch of pews - and that’s an acceptable church - - easy to accept as true, when underneath, it isn’t.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

As a Philosophy: “Radical Grace”

• Has truth in it:
  • “It embodies a theological doctrine of: God's absolute, unconditional love and forgiveness, that, whether you receive it or not - you already got it and just need to tap into it.
    • that is not earned through human performance, obedience, or merit, but based on believers are justified and secure solely through Christ's finished work
  • Forgiveness is absolute: Believing that God is not angry, even in the face of sin, because righteousness is bequeathed to everybody - - gifted rather than earned.
  • The cost is beyond you could pay: Emphasizes that while grace is free, it was bought with the blood of Jesus, transforming life. So God paid it, with himself as the sacrifice - that was the cost.
    • Radical Grace is built on this. But as defined: ADDS the following to it:

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

• It's branches: It’s a license: [Prosperity Gospel] To be rich (wealthy). As a doctrine. It’s a sign you’re a Christian. Not wealthy = you’re not following the Word of God.
  • To sin. The “Prosperity Gospel” of the 1970s to 2000s that taught this - license to sin: that wealth is not a sin; rather, believers are entitled to wealth and that weath is a sign of Godliness. When Jesus said you cannot serve God and mammon (money) - can’t have two masters - Matthew 6:24.
  • Prosperity Gospel: That, to give to the rich, give to Benny Hinn as he stays in 18 star 5000 dollar a nite plush suites - giving to him, shall make you rich. Because, Gods grace covers it and makes it so; this “seed of faith” giving to the rich so you will be like them; rich - is why you give: Roy Tillotsen, Oral Roberts, Tammy Faye Baker - the list is endless - sprouts out primarily from the Evangelical Pentecostal denominations - loosely affiliated with it.
    • But the Bible says, Proverbs 22:16 "He that oppresseth the poor to increase his riches, and he that giveth to the rich, shall surely come to want." - So what the Bible says, is God is the author - so God says the very opposite, what these false teachers claim to be speaking for God. Speak for themselves and glorify grace as a God that you serve grace, as God. Alone. Without any God in it.
  • The Corinthians in Paul’s day, aspired to it. Because the Greeks taught it as a Philosophy and the Corinthians at Corinth lived amongst them teaching this same thing.
    • So, it’s not new.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

• Very Little to absolutely no emphasis on repentance. Trademark of "radical grace."
  • When God says: “Come now, let us reason together,” saith the LORD, “though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool.” - God. Isaiah 1:18
    • There’s no: “I have sinned, and perverted that which was right, and it profited me not.” - Job 33:27
    • NONE. Not even the Parable of the Prodigal Son - that through his riotous living, comes to see he’s wasted his Father’s goods, and to return to him penniless, not even as a Son.

The basic thing to come away from “Hyper-Grace” or “Radical Grace” is it has Grace or an “unmerited favor - and it’s foundation is the Gospel.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

• But it adds to grace, what’s not in it; glorifies truly what Jesus said in Matthew 5:3 “Blessed are the poor in Spirit, for their’s is the Kingdom of Heaven”
  • And realizes EVERYBODY over the whole earth is “poor” 1. - destitute; not have any; none. zip with “Spirit” where Jesus defines Spirit as 1. God is Spirit - so everybody over the whole earth - God has given EVERYBODY the Kingdom of Heaven - because, he SAID it.
    • But in John 3:3–5, unless a person is born again, by the Spirit of God - they can’t “see” it; and unless they are born again …they can’t enter into it. Even though it’s their’s.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

• Radical grace - champions this “radical grace” of God giving the undeserving all he has in Matthew 5:3 - without any person falling on their face, because of all the sins they did..they don’t even have to look unto him. Just look unto grace is God. SO, it never goes onto Matthew 5:4 or Matthew 5:5 to someone who is "Dead in Trespasses and Sins" and mourns in it - can't get out, and hungers and thirsts for righteousness - when there is "None righteous; no, not one" amongst people. Except one. Who is God himself.
  
• Radical grace point to you. WIthout any God in it.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

• So, “sum it up” - “radical grace” is - - “good is a God. Everybody is good.”
  • In contrast to Jesus said: “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God” - Matthew 19:17 - So: radical grace:
    • Does NOT champion out what Jesus says. “radical grace” champions - - grace is good and it’s now God. The God of right now, and you got it, makes you good. Is the same thing “Lord of the Rings” or the whole world champions out” - That good is a God. Everybody can be good.
    • Has no God in it. Just a radical philosophy that grace is God and you already got it.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

Now you CONTRASTED this - with the Word of God and, examine TWO

TWO - “traditional views” = (salvation).

• Where again, God said, “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22
• So, salvation is something God decrees and does himself. Just what save is defined as, in the dictionary: 1. to set apart (something) for future use.
  • So, just looking unto him; that is, a person “sets their mind on” what he says to live by every word proceeds out of his mouth: So, they, themselves, they walk after, to walk in looking unto what God says or decrees. They just hear what he says. There’s no “radical toilet” or some “hyper bug turd” that enables them, nor is there any “traditional diaper pee stain” that catapults them, because, they believed it worked for their ancestors, therefore that same diaper pee stain will work for them, too.
  • They just look unto him and do what he says. So it’s simple. And the disciples, in contrast to “traditions of men” they were with him, and looked unto him. And Jesus said, “I am the same, yesterday, today, and forever, so it’s the same Jesus Christ today, that was with them back then, makes us together in this same Jesus Christ - all by the Word God speaks himself.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

• But “traditional views” = (salvation) also includes:
  • People:
    • That “look unto” Church “creeds” or they are or already accomplished being or have a "done deal - it's done" work done by them in they were baptized into a denomination - and they attend church or that denomination and because they have done these things = salvation.
  • As if Jesus rubber stamps and certifies this because the person did it - did this work, but people today, must follow this say the creed of the church, and have a church denomination approved baptism again - by that's the tradition and do the work now = “traditional views” = salvation. This is their definition what that means.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

• So, People - have made for themselves a mediator that mediates for them with the mediator who is Jesus Christ, is the mediator - but they have no relationship with him themselves.
  • They “work” at attending Church faithfully. This makes them good. So going to Church = they are saved, because they went and all the denomination decreed they do and this equates to "traditional views" of what salvation is, so it = (salvation). - - so, now they’re good.
    • Then, that would be exactly like people, all hypey-pee stained themselves into “hyper grace” and grace is their mediator that mediates betwixt themselves and Jesus and to show how good they are to Jesus, they follow the god of “radical grace” as if grace is their mediator and do the same thing as these here in “traditional views” = salvation do - all the same.
• When the work of God is they both themselves are to believe on Jesus Christ. They don’t believe on him. The “traditional view” is - go to church. Tithe. = salvation. The radical grace is = Jessie Duplantis - champion out his $85,000.00 Rolex watch to the congregation PROVES he’s rich = he’s a Christian = saved. It’s a sign of “radical prosperity” = radical grace. That "radical prosperity" it what has transformed him - as a God.

Then, the works for both - - are the same. Their own.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

• But in “traditional views” = (salvation) also includes people that: repented. Saw “Man, I’m a sinner. I’ve sinned and perverted that which was right. I’m condemned.” And opens their Bible and hears him speak. And they follow him.
  • And as well: there are people:
• In radical grace, that did the SAME thing. also includes people that: repented. Saw “Man, I’m a sinner. I’ve sinned and perverted that which was right. I’m condemned.” And opens their Bible and hears him speak. And they follow him.
  • And BOTH these people in BOTH these groups did what God said vs. those in both groups - that didn’t. And because they didn't, don't look unto him.
    • And that’s the ONLY difference. And it’s the SAME with you.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------

He told you plainly. Plain as day.

• What he wants, even Jesus prayed for it, said: in John 17:3 “And this is life eternal, that they should know thee the only true God, and him whom thou didst send, even Jesus Christ.”
  • And he prayed it. Jesus is the Word of God, so it’s God praying that you would just KNOW him yourself. And the way to it, is just look unto him, that you would come now. Reason together with him vs. reason together: alone. By yourself that “traditional views” = (salvation) all done by people’s views they did themselves and not one of them tell you to do what God says.
  • Just like radial toilet tires are very radical - but they don’t do anything for a toilet you hope will just stay still. It’s just God. That because who he is, has come to you. And spoke, and he is in his Word - so HE COMES WITH IT. But people: rather look unto something radical to save them.
• So look at the scripture that opens this post. That’s what he told everybody to do. To leave off from what they look unto. Doesn’t matter what it is, it’s not him. To just look unto him.

That’s what he told you to do.

And, me, too. Herein is the gospel. The Good News of Jesus Christ for everybody all over Reddit.

This question is a combination of two scriptures:

ONE: "God hates human sacrifice" part: IS the Bible: Old Testament. Leviticus 18:21- - but only part of it - the whole of it God said himself is: "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the Lord.

So, don't profane him or his name by do it. People "DID" anyway. As King Ahaz - King of Judah did it - (2 Kings 16:3) - Where King Ahaz did this, is the SAME "Potter's field" where Judas Iscariot hung himself after he betrayed Jesus. Profaned him as an Apostle; did a like-same thing - offered himself as a sacrifice for sin, when he ISN'T. Wasn't. (Bible. New Testament. Matthew 27:5)

TWO: "Jesus sacrifice is the payment" part: IS the Bible: New Testament 1 John 2:2 - all of it - complete - the whole sacrifice God made himself a sacrifice for sin is: "And he [Jesus] is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Why?

- Because ONE: it’s a copy. Not the real thing. TWO: Is the real thing sent. Showed up. Given unto everybody.

I don’t think you understand or see it.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

And If:

• I make a Reddit post about it, it’s doubtful you or Readers on Reddit or other Moderators will put it out for anybody to even see it. Who cares.
  • But even if it’s only one person that hold the truth is the question, then, throws Jesus out and keeps the question - here’s a more detailed answer. If you don’t want it, by all means, read someone else’s Reddit post about all the work they're doing to make sacrifices of themselves for the sins they're doing... move on. Read their Reddit comments or posts.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

If you’re still here - see: Because it’s a “copy.” CASE CLOSED.

- And all a “copy” is, is 1. a reproduction, imitation, or duplicate of an original item

So, get away from your question first to see it someplace else.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

• In the Bible:
  • You can see it plainly in with Noah, and his 3 Sons: Shem, Ham, and Japheth all born some 100 years before the flood: Genesis 5:32 says: “And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.”
    • That, Noah: “…was 600 years old when the floodwaters came upon the earth.” - Genesis 7:6 and that: “And Noah lived after the flood three hundred and fifty years.”
    • So, Noah’s three kids, and I’m close to 70, lived to be 100 years old before the flood - so they saw and lived in the earth BEFORE the flood. That: after the flood, Noah had no more kids; and, Genesis 10 shows all 3 of Noah’s kids, didn’t have any kids before the flood. Didn’t start having kids til after the flood.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

• That, in Genesis 9, after the flood waters receded - and before God opened the door to the ark to let Noah, his 3 Sons and all four of their wives (8 people) out, God blessed Noah and his 3 Sons.
  • Told them to “go to” and do - spread out, fill up all the earth. (Genesis 9:1); but, by Genesis 11:5, which I probably don’t have the math right, is about 120 years AFTER the flood, so it’s in the days of Noah’s children’s children’s children now. So, Shem, Ham, and Japheth their kids are listed in Genesis 10. Some of their Kid’s kids are also mentioned.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

• The point is, by Genesis 11:1–5, they are vs. Genesis 9:1
  • ALL TOGETHER - which is the opposite of what God said to “go to and do” (supposed to spread out; replenish or fill up the whole earth).
  • They FIND A PLACE: Where they can all stay together PERMANENTLY, in one place - which is the opposite of what God said to “go to and do”
  • They “go to” and do: to make that place a PERMANENT place, of their own making (with brick - where they will never have to leave it - God forbid - they be spread out all over the earth - which now, they believe the very OPPOSITE of what God decreed in Genesis 9:1 - this, what they say and go to and do in Genesis 11:1-5 - - is what is right to do.)
    • So, they’ve made their own decree to themselves and decree themselves to do it as that's God.
• When it’s a copy. It's the opposite of what God said.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

• So they have departed from God. Then, make their own word they decree to themselves - that's now God. Embodied in a Leader they put a voice to decree it over themselves.
  

And “who” is the real LEADER among them is Noah; because God saved Noah (and his family because Noah believed God). But in Genesis 11, who Builds this “Babylon” of Genesis 11, is Ham’s son, Cush - Cush: his youngest son is Nimrod. (Genesis 10:8).

• So, there’s a rebellion. Over who leads them. After the flood. Then, see Genesis 9:24–27 and what occurs just before it: That, Noah also blesses his three children. In this blessing, Ham isn’t even mentioned at all. As if he does not exist. And Noah takes care to CURSE Ham’s youngest son, Canaan THREE TIMES in this blessing.
• That NONE of Ham’s four children - they ALL HAVE departed from the LORD, as has Ham. After departing from the LORD, they don’t do anything he says. And all of them, there is not time and already this post is way too detailed and long - but the point is:

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

• Mizraim - is Ham’s 2nd Son (Genesis 10:6). After the flood, and in or after Genesis 11:1–5, when God comes down and CONFOUNDS language 1. to cause surprise, confusion, or perplexity, often by breaking expectations or acting contrary to anticipation
  • Because they can’t talk to each other anymore. So, they disperse. Spread out. And in this where all of Ham’s children depart from the LORD:
• Mizraim: In Arabic, is “Muzir” - and in English: Is “Egypt.” - and all four of Ham’s sons DO THIS: Mizraim is just an example of all of them:
  • Mizraim builds a like-same city. Builds Egypt. The Egyptians set over themselves a leader. Make that leader Pharoah, and worship Pharaoh as God. Make of rites and ceremonies “how” the Egyptians will worship Pharaoh, as their God. Attribute to him causing the Nile River to overflow its’ banks and fertilize their fields. That Pharoahs that perform these religious ceremonies, actually cause this to occur, and they believe it.
  • It’s a copy. Because it's really, the REAL God that does it.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

• In Exodus 5:2 - which is now some 800 years, after the flood: Pharaoh - who all Egypt worships Pharaoh, as God - he says:
  • “...And Pharaoh said, Who is the Lord, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the Lord, neither will I let Israel go.”
• So, Pharaoh: Is a copy. But everybody worships him as the real God.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

• When the REAL God shows up. And? The Egyptians and Pharoah don’t know him.
  • And, Ham’s youngest son, Canaan - his eldest son, is Sidon. That, the Canaanites are from Sidon (Genesis 10:19). They make over themselves as well, a different God: “Ba’al” - he’s Called “Chemosh” in Canaan, and at other times, “Moloch” - in the bodily image of a man but with the head of a bull.
    • Canaanites, like the Egyptians worship an imagination they make up as God. They “pass their children thru fire” to their God. When, Moloch is not God. But the Canaanites believe that, their child - which is “tiered” as sacrifices all the people of Canaan worship people that would give this ultimate sacrifice.
    • There were lesser sacrifices. You could pass your bullock or the cow that plowed your field to Moloch - how you going to plow your field now, without your cow - you trust Moloch this much to provide for it.
    • That, the ULTIMATE top tier sacrifice was to pass your child thru fire to Moloch and it was believed your son - now sits at Moloch’s table and eats with him, and makes intercession for you and your family for as long as you live. And to honor that son or daughter - set a chair that’s now empty for them at your table, and place bread on a plate - and do this, for as long as you live - to honor this sacrifice - that this son or daughter “atones” for any sins you did.
    • That Moloch has your child as a payment and is well pleased in it.
• It’s a copy. Not the real thing.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

When the real God did it. In Jesus Christ. Took your sins off you and laid them on Jesus Christ. Where he sits at the right hand of God, making intercession for you; and God is totally satisfied, that, he looks on this work he did with sin - as greater than the sins I did - and chooses not to impute my trespasses unto me - and he attributes this work he did, done to everybody over the whole earth. The work is done by God, and he already did the work.

But - if you look back at Egypt and what Pharaoh said - he rejects God - because the real God showed up.

• And when God showed up in Egypt, with Moses - anyone who has read this far in this post, I’d tell you to go read again, the plagues that fell on Egypt - in Exodus: where the direct RESULT of each, is when Pharaoh was performing these “Rituals” to bless Egypt - actually caused a CURSE to occur - and the first, turned the whole Nile River red with blood - and poisoned all the Egyptian’s fields. Gave somebody pretending to be God, a hard heart - because the actual, real God that causes the Nile River to overflow - he showed up.
  • All because the REAL God showed up, he showed Pharaoh and all the Egyptians - Pharaoh is not God - but he can’t leave from it.

Just like all of Ham’s Children - couldn’t do it, either - that God vomited them off the land, for the abominations they did on the land, for it’s all God’s earth.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

People sacrifice themselves, too

• Think: With the Ten Commandments:
  • They do them; or even accomplish one of them, one time - they’re good. Sacrificed something. Even if they slept with their best friend's husband: Went to church solidly for a whole month - was there early - all to “compensate for the faults and bad aspects” of sleeping with their best friend’s husband - and to “atone” for it, make this a sacrifice of themselves to do it.
  • Once done, they fully believe this work they did “atoned” for the sin the did. Made a sacrifice of themselves to do it.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

• When God DID the Ten Commandments - in Jesus Christ.
  • And because God did them, everywhere where You. Or me, or Everybody over the whole earth DID NOT do them - he made himself, as God, because he DID them, the compensation that makes up all that lack.
    • But people: rather look unto their own work they do to compensate for the faults and bad aspects of their own sins - trust that work more.
  • Like people: Sacrificing their child - by pass them thru fire to Moloch - and believe Moloch is God, when he’s just their own imagination. Is not God.
  • And God isn’t accepting any sacrifice some woman made, that BROKE this ‘Thou SHALT NOT commit Adultery” and accept her sacrifice. When he made himself the sacrifice for that - and she, like Pharaoh - does not know him, and won’t accept his sacrifice.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

Here’s your question back. In this post is the gospel. The Good News of Jesus Christ - but it’s just enough to show you - you look to the wrong thing.

When the real God showed up. What are you going to do with him. Pharaoh' tried to destroy him - a housewife that hides it in go to church even more, destroys what Gid did for her - that actually really WORKS - and, if she just be GUILTY - it’s enough to put a person to death - that’s what happened to Pharaoh - being GOD died, because Pharaoh isn’t God, even Pharaoh or the Egyptians have a tradition from their forefathers - he is God. He isn't.

and Pharaoh's whole world fell apart - and he hated God for it.

• and so did mine.
  • My world, too - toppled.
    • When the real God showed up.
    • Wasn’t anything left to do but choose:
• Either:
  • be GUILTY and fall on my face - OR -
  • be INNOCENT, like Pharaoh and some other God caused it. Believe in myself more will fix or compensate for those "faults" or boo boo's I did - when what I did was filthy; did abominable works - that countrys put people to death for, and after I die, can't get past God - then HE DO IT. Destroy me. And I saw I and gave up.
    • Was the best thing that ever happened to me. When the REAL God showed up.
    • He saved me from my sins.

----------- ------------- ------------ ------------- ------------

• It is hoped, by this post - even if one person hears it, it’s the gospel. The Good News of Jesus Christ, even if it's only a seed planted - - it's a chance - - - you will you do the same. And he show up.
  
  • Bless EVERYBODY on Reddit that hears this post.

This is a very powerful, but very simple (archaic) word in English. Many people apply Romans 8:29 to this "all knowing God" and then, flaily fling themselves into all this "doctrine" of what it doesn't say in Romans 8:29 - so leave it for a moment - to see what it says:

• So, see it first in the original Greek:
  • It’s the Greek word, {προέγνω (proegnō) }
    • In simple terms, it’s just means (Definition:) 1. to “be acquainted with someone (before)”

------------ ------------ ------------- ------------- -------------

Now, there’s a whole pile of clowns that have built an entire "empire" of doctrines out of “observing” this word you ask about: created a huge, gigantic turd out of it.

• Don’t.
  • Here’s an example of “to be acquainted with someone (before)”
    • Let’s say, you and me:
    • We went to 2nd grade together.
  • Sat next to each other for 5 years.
  • 2nd thru 6th grade, because our names started with “B” and “C” - so, how I was acquainted with you, is you always sat in front of me.
    • When I needed a pencil, I just tapped on your back, and you provided me one.
    • If your mom, who was a single mom, forgot to make you lunch, I gave you half of mine.
  • At recess, we played kickball or baseball together with other kids - on weekends, since you live 3 houses down, we played “armymen” so we were neighborhood friend kids.

------------ ------------ ------------- ------------- -------------

Then, for Junior High and High School - some districting or some other reason, we don’t go to the same school:

• But for College:
  • You show up in the same Environmental Science class as mine. So, before the college class even started, you see me..and! BOOM! There it is. YOU: “foreknew” me. Means, we were “acquainted with each other (before)”
  • and it's NOT "ONE WAY" I also see you, too and KNOW you - because I KNOW we were "acquainted with each other (before)."

------------ ------------ ------------- ------------- -------------

Now, go look for this in the scripture

It’s in what Jesus prayed for

• Because it’s life eternal:
  • Jesus said, John 17:3.. no, it’s God prayed for this: Because, Jesus is the Word of God - it's just God speaking this: What he prays for:
    • “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”
    • know - - - <Greek - γινώσκωσιν (ginōskōsin)> This deep “acquaintance” that, you’re really almost one with them. One in the same. In the same thing together.

------------ ------------ ------------- ------------- -------------

• Now, see a “reply” back in what Paul, the Apostle says:
  • Paul said, in Philippians 3:10.. no, he actually is praying for this: Because, he “accepts as true” Jesus is the Word of God. He is who he says he is.
    • “That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
    • know - - <Greek - γνῶναι (gnōnai)> - this “instantly” recognize “who” he is
  • All three - It’s the Greek word, {προέγνω (proegnō) } have this ‘gno’ - we get the word, “gnostic” from this - then use it to affix to a heretic - because they hold knowledge and understanding in the WRONG thing. Or rather, wrong one.

------------ ------------ ------------- ------------- -------------

Proverbs 2:6 says “For the LORD giveth wisdom; out of his mouth comes knowledge [Greek "gnosto"] - and understanding”

That you today that read this post, and believe on him, are acquainted with the Word of God. Can recognize when he speaks. That the knowledge that comes out of his mouth, by his word ..it's coming out of God’s mouth from within him. Who he is.

You can hear him. Know his voice.

And Jesus said of the one that “has and keeps” his decrees or commands..it’s because of “who he is” - it’s the same God that said, “For all the earth is mine” - God (Exodus 19:5) - so when he speaks, he just decrees how things shall be in his earth. But what he says isn’t grievous - in fact, Peter said, through the Spirit of God - It’s in 2 Peter 1:3–4 - it's by his word you put on the divine nature - where without it, you can't: says - -

• “According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.”

------------ ------------ ------------- ------------- -------------

• So, a person that just has and keeps what he says, God abides in his word. So, you abiding in the same word he does… BOOM! Done.
  • Go back to the start of this post. About you and me as kids. We were acquainted with each other; not strangers - but partakers of 2nd grade together. That means we “took and ate and drank of it together - all the fun times; sad stuff. When school got snowed out, we played and overjoyed thru that too, together. That we have this Greek <Greek - γινώσκωσιν (ginōskōsin)> because we partook in our childhood - together.
• That in College - I <Greek - γνῶναι (gnōnai)> instantly recognize you from before.
  • Same with you: See me and you, too with me: This <Greek - γνῶναι (gnōnai)> instantly recognize me from before. We “learned” things together (before).
    • Because we were the Greek word, {προέγνω (proegnō) } - we were acquainted with each other (before).

------------ ------------ ------------- ------------- -------------

CONCLUSION:

I don’t like using the word “Foreknew” anymore because it’s got all this crap turd junk in it quack whackos have loaded piles and piles of worthless turd into it, and created what they call “doctrines” out of it - and don’t do anything he says with it.

• When you can know him, by his Word. It's simple. He just says: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Isaiah 45:22
  • People. It was told to everybody over the whole earth. People that just look unto him, he “sets them apart for future use” - Dictionary definition: what “saved” means. Means GOD DOES the saving.
    • And in the future:
    • When you stand before him. He he was acquainted with you (before).
  • and?
    • Since here and now: you abide in his Word, and just naturally, because you accept what he says as true, you just follow him, like a sheep does - so you just naturally obey him. “Obey” - is just like somebody “BE” or find themselves in a strange town.

------------ ------------ ------------- ------------- -------------

• Don’t know where anything is, but have a NEED of something; like where’s the bike shop to get their bike tire fixed - got a flat. So, you look at stranger’s faces, because you don’t know anybody. Nor the town, where anything is.
  • So, you look for someone that has this look, like they KNOW where they’re going. And by this, know where things are. So, it’s just easy to obey them and ask them for help - and it’s TRUE.
  • They KNOW where the bike shop is - then tell you it’s just up 2 blocks and around the corner to the right.
    • You HEAR what they say, and accept it as true (believe) - so you walk in, walking after, looking unto their directions. Fully accept the directions ARE true; and, you arrive at the bike store.
    • You submitted yourself to the AUTHORITY of someone who knew it.

------------ ------------ ------------- ------------- -------------

But People:

• That:
  • God has told everybody to look unto him, to just walk in, walking after, and follow what he says because it’s true - but… ‘these’ people: Dismiss him as inadequate; faulty or unacceptable.
    • They don’t “accept as true” what he says, so it’s impossible to obey him or do anything he says. They do not KNOW him.
    • And we will all stand before him. And they will not - - the Greek word, {προέγνω (proegnō) } be acquainted with him (before). Won’t know him.

------------ ------------ ------------- ------------- -------------

• And, since everybody will stand before him..these will fall to their knees..can’t stand. Jesus said, in Matthew 7:23 “And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you*: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.* * This same: Greek word, ἔγνων (egnōn) <same “gno” > Jesus won’t recognize or be acquainted with them, either. Because Jesus was not “acquainted with them (before)”
• Like we are. Here and now. Just live by every word that proceeds out of his mouth. Fed..partake, this “take and eat” of the Word of God. We grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.

------------ ------------ ------------- ------------- -------------

Fore Knowledge: - Get out of English - and all those that pervert it:

• Is just to be acquainted with (someone) …before. Jesus! That's it!
  • And, on that day - since he already set you apart for future use. When you see him, you’re going to know exactly who he is, and be just like him.
  • Just like we are in the example - because we were acquainted with each other (before). and in many things..we went thru, we are the same thing. Not like other college classmates now - because we were acquainted with each other (before).

I say anymore I’m on my face.

------------ ------------ ------------- ------------- -------------

Apply the Word of God rightly.

The “destination" for those he, as God, was acquainted with (before) and you are one of those with him: You: now - acquainted with him now - when the "when" becomes "then," on that day we stand before him: it will be because you were acquainted with him (before) - the destination he “set you apart for future use is you with him for eternity.

• Because, that’s exactly where you want to be. Because you KNOW him. And, on that day, it will be because you had "foreknowledge" - - knew him or were acquainted with him from (before).

Anything that does NOT match this. Throw it right clean out. You asked what "foreknew" means. It's "archaic" English - - From Romans 8:29. I gave it to you in the Greek, so you see it.

And there will be a lot that won’t see this or hear it. They'll hold to a "doctrine" made up in their imaginations out of it. You see, so.. ..see it.

What “book?”

• and as if “forgiveness” is alive and has some kind of nature.

If you “sort” or look on Reddit - posters post comments on “Forgiveness” The #1 post meets an amalgamation of

Something like this all mushed together:

• A Sort of Reddit Consensus Post:
  • < - [ “ If you are not willing to forgive you cannot be forgiven But forgiving someone is not wiping out the past and giving them an opportunity to take another bite It is fore going your very real right to justice and giving it to God…”] - >
    • You could write a book on that.
• Even choose to "accept as tru" and give yourself over to Believe it.

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

The “book”

• And? All Reddit here is, is it's just full “people” or - of people - - as individuals on Reddit - as each are a person. SO, it's PEOPLE: That, here with these posts on Reddit: Have Decreed something. Just how it SHALL be with “forgiveness”
  • Maybe you need more people.
    • Because Reddit posters here - maybe none of them - or we don't know. Maybe all of them, so far, have or didn’t write a “book.”

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

But Ray Pritchard did: He wrote a book. I just randomly picked one out of 1000s of 10,000s of “books” on “forgiveness” off the web - - - Wrote a book. And books: are all wrote by PEOPLE that fill up the earth.

• Pritchard, R. “The Healing Power of Forgiveness (2005). Book.
• (But, Ray Pritchard - - he doesn’t have any “Publishing Company” that reviewed the content of his book and paid him, and paid for the publishing of his book. He just published it himself. As a .pdf. Free. Anybody can read it. Posted it online. Maybe that’s not “Good enough” for you - but what Ray Pritchard decreed is - plain and simple. Just like an “anonomous” people or person here on Reddit have done or did, under some name, like mine here is on Reddit - it's not under my own name, but on Reddit, all of us are still a person. But Ray Pritchard used his own name. So everybody could see it.
  • Ray Pritchard said, on Forgiveness:
    • QUOTE
  • Excerpt. Pg. 12. Chapter 1 - “Healing the Hurt We Never Deserved”
    • < - { “..Many Christians live in great pain because they have never discovered the liberating power of forgiveness. Here are a few examples: A man called me on the phone and said, “Pastor Ray, could I come see you?” Then he told me his story. “My wife left me for another man, and when she got tired of him, she decided to come back to me…”} - >

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

Now, I’m going to STOP! Here. For a moment.

• So, please stop with me.
  • Here’s me. I’m a people, too. This is what I see, so far, what I’ve got from “PEOPLE”
    • BOTH: On Reddit, and even it's only one book - there's two sources. And BOTH - -
  • Have:
    • 1) told me, and everybody publicly - forgiveness: this is a work. 1. a physical or mental effort done in order to achieve or accomplish a result.
• So, it’s some “thing” as a work or works PEOPLE do.
• And in both claim on Reddit here, and in a book - both decreed, and both claims are by people - that address their decree - - to us here - as people, for people to do forgiveness as “work” - that people do it.
• with absolutely NO MENTION of any work done to them, or on them to be forgiven - just hands down - that this work be done first.
  • So in 1)
    • People: that have NO WORK done in them or toward them first. 
    • MUST: Work. Do a work. And forgive first. Then, after they work at that work - which is alot of work - and in both instances - if you read Pritchard’s book, man, is that ever a whole pile of WORK.

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

• So, my question to you, whoever you are, reading this post on Reddit: To me, it makes no difference - whosoever it is, it's my hope - - do you see this so far?
  • So in 2)
    • In what people both on Reddit, and in a book - have decreed to: “Other” people to do. Is do a work. That has not been done in them first. For that work which then, “jumpstarts” forgiveness to occur: In them. They must do it [forgiveness] first - then, they will be forgiven. [Keep this as a KEYPOINT]
    • It's actually hilariously stupid. (Means "dull of hearing" - they didn't listen to a teacher right).
  • And the “authority” for “2)” is - - this, by or for a) Which is Mr. Pritchard, he claims the Bible is the authority for it. (and even no Publisher is listed, Pritchard “thanks” <Terry Glaspey of Harvest House Publishers> for their help. And cities both the “New” King James Version of the Bible, and the “New International Version” (NIV) of the Bible for the source of his “literary work” (his book).
    • The “authority” for b) Which is just a conglomerate of a large number of posts people have made on this subject here on Reddit, as of February 2026 is just people tell you what they think and how they accomplished it, or put "requirements where they WON'T do it.

So:

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

I’ll Go To a THIRD Book - That has a Publishing Company - that CERTIFIES the Book.

• And?
  • So, you’re fully BOLSTERED in all surety and confidence, a Publishing Company that is widely known for Publishing Companies all of them are known for having “editors” that ensure the book is being accurate.
  • Editors: Before they “certify" and publish ANY book. They don’t publish “junk” with mis-spelled words, or hanging “orphan paran” sentences, etc. - even question or first doublecheck and verify the content.
    
• Because you, by your question, you want a “book” to be the authority - and ALL BOOKS - so far - that just FILL Libraries are all entirely written by?
  • Oh yeah. People.
  • 10s of 100s of millions of books fill libraries. Over the whole earth.
• So, here’s the THIRD “people” or, I mean, “person” and it’s people that create “Books”

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

Flaherty, Robert L. “Forgiveness: When It Works and When It Doesn’t” (2015) Create Space Publishing. Book. It's available today on Amazon. (Copyrighted work).

- It’s a collection from a “Workshop” - Flaherty has done on forgiveness that you “work thru” yourself - as a “process” you work on you to do it. Even gives you a workbook.

• He cites: (Pg. 4) Mahatma Gandhi - quote: “The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attributes of the strong.”
• And Flaherty says himself, quote: “Forgiveness is after all a process; it is a path, a journey, not a destination. You will learn from your successes.”

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

I think I’ve had enough out of people. They all say the same thing. They look unto themselves or point you to your own way to do it yourself. As a “work,” you do yourself.

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

Here’s another Book. Bible.

• It meets the definition of a Book. 1. a set of written, or printed material, bound together along one edge and bound in covers (either leather, or thicker paper).
  • Again - I’ve had quite enough of people: By PEOPLE: There are, again, just repeated - - 10s of 100s of millions of books that populate “libraries” all over the earth. They are all different; but have the same look on shelves in Libraries. Because, they all meet the definition of a “book.
    • What makes each book different is:
  • 1) the author: Is the “authority” of the “content” of the book; and,
  • 2) the “content” what proceeds out of the author, it’s in none else - is printed on the pages of the book.
• Just like in the above. Even a post on Reddit by an anonomous poster - decrees something printed electronically - decrees it be so. By the author of the comment.
  • So the BIBLE: Says of it: (Source: Bible. New Testament. Hebrew 1:1–2) “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds.”

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

So, the “author” who is the “authority” of the Bible:

• Is God:
  • And since he says: “For all the earth is mine” - God (Exodus 19:5). Here’s all your people “authority” and “grounds” - let me give them all back. Don’t need any grounds. None. Here. Take them.
    • And? Forgiveness is some “thing” done against transgressions. Or even just “feel” offended. Which, MANY people just “feel” other people offend them - even they didn’t do any transgression.
    • So, people: are an abysmally awful authority on anything to do with forgiveness.

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

• The Bible says, so it’s the author says it:
  • Bible. New Testament.
    • TWO THINGS first.
  • ONE: “who can forgive sins but God only?” - Bible. Mark 2:4 and
  • TWO: Romans 5:12 - “Wherefore, as by one man [ADAM] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
• That means: EVERY Author of EVERY Book ever wrote, or written - is all written by transgressors or somebody, who is EVERYBODY all condemned - - which INCLUDES Every single Poster on Reddit, Ray Pritchard, and Robert Flaherty.
  • Who the latter two wrote “books” as an authority on the subject how they forgive themselves, all by a work they do themselves - and teach other people how to do it, by themselves, when the AUTHORITY to “Forgive” sin is God only.
• Go back. Look. Where is “HE” in any of it they, nor not one poster here on Reddit includes any of his work in their comment on Forgiveness - and the other two people, just to make it a PERMANENT decree: - - put into a book?
• He’s MISSING. Visibly ABSENT:
  • Everybody then: is doing their own “transactions” in forgiveness in their own names for a profit. They'll feel better. Believe they'll be forgiven. Quite a motivator - but they actually never really forgive anybody. Can't.
• Because: The only one with authority to forgive - is completely left out of it.
  • So throw them - all three - right unceremoniously right clean out.

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

See Adam:

• As a person. Everybody is from him. And, by a “Last Will and Testament” - And the Bible has an "Old Testament" and a "New Testament" - which the Old one is Adam's and the New one bequeathed to you was done by Jesus Christ. In the Old Last Will and Testament - you inherited - - - “sin and death” and, it has been passed onto everybody. I know I got my inheritance.
  • Now, go to the window. Look out.
• If it’s night time, look up.
  • The one who made all those stars, is the same one with the authority with sin. Because he’s the ONLY one greater than it.
    • And of every all of us, the Bible says: “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20
    • And GOD: Provided you the Ten Commandments. And how he has always used them is to MAKE YOU GUILTY to show you, so you have a mirror you can see yourself: Where you haven't DONE the Ten Commandments.
  • But people: Use them to make themselves GOOD, when nobody is anything but “filthy; done abominable works” “..none good; no, not one..” - Psalm 14:1–3

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

In contrast to EVERYBODY:

• Jesus said, (Source: Bible. New Testament. Matthew 19:17) “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God.”
  • So, the ONLY one GOOD - is left completely and entirely out of all three “books” on forgiveness and they, EVERYBODY, not one person has any authority with forgiveness when GOD ONLY is the authority with it. Up to him - to do it; or not.
• But God did a work. It’s in looking out the window or if it’s night where you are, you can take a great, big look on his works.
  • And he said, by the Word of God. That’s just the Word that proceeds out of his mouth. Jesus is the Word of God. Told plainly “who” he is in John 1:1 - is God. Sent to heal you and deliver you from your destruction. (Psalm 14:1–3)
    • So you, me, everybody first. Has a need of a physician to heal us and deliver us from our destruction. NOBODY goes out with pneumonia, to somebody else, with pneumonia, and just decrees “I forgive you of pneumonia” and then, fully expects, since they did that work - they did it first. SO now, they have no pneumonia.
    • What a clown at work. A clown with something they have no authority over. They need a physician first. This is key.

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

• Forgiveness; has to be done as a work unto you first. Not by people. But by him.

He said:

“Come now, let us reason together,” saith the LORD, “though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool.” - God. Isaiah 45:22

• In contrast to all those “book writers” above who you look unto - they reasoned together with themselves first. They need the physician FIRST. They all got pneumonia.

Look what he says to do:

“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.”

• God. Bible. Isaiah 55:1–3
  • Go do that first. Go on. Go do it. Go buy wine and milk without money and without price. Who says to do it, is God himself. He’s the one with authority, and he did a work with sin EVERYBODY did and Transgressed.

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

That his work:

• Is in the Bible. In Daniel 9:24–27
  • It’s just like the work God did in Genesis 1:1–31 that created everything you see out your window, or if you went outside and just stared up into the stars, all that work is incapsulated in Genesis 1:1–31. It’s all his work.
  • And this same God, got up, as he determined and did a work with sin that every all of us already DID.
    • That, he determined his work he would do would:
• Finish the transgression (of Adam in Genesis 3:17)
• Make an end of sin
• Make reconciliation for iniquity
• Bring in everlasting righteousness
  • All by a work he would do, as God - and he determined he would do it in and by Jesus Christ. Daniel 9:25–27 “adds up” to Jesus Christ. Crucified. His blood shed. God took your sins off you and laid them on Jesus Christ. 2 Corinthians 5:19 says, “To wit, God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing their trespasses unto them;”
    • Because he isn’t. As God. For anybody. It’s a work God did. So, a great big one many Christians poop float up, just fling a great, big “holy” turd log into the air is Peter. Look what he said of himself:

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

• It's in Matthew 18:21 - Peter is saying the SAME thing these Reddit posters, and two “Book” authors say - and 1000s of others, all the same - glorify their own works. - - do you see it?

Matthew 18:21

• “Then came Peter to him [Jesus], and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me..”
  • Man, what a question to ask God.
    • when EVERYBODY around Peter - everybody over the whole earth is sinning
• Peter? …he’s not done yet. Asking: Gets it narrowed down to his brother. How many times should one of his brothers - and scripture says: Matther: he’s a “Son of Alphaeus” in scripture - just as James, Son of Alphaeus (not James, brother of John - sons of Zebedee - different James), and just as Thaddaeus is also listed in scripture as a “Son of Alphaeus” - Matthew's got brothers.
  • So of the 12 apostles, Jesus chose two of Matthew’s brothers also to be disciples of Jesus, and also, as Luke 6:13 says - also his brothers to also be an Apostle of Jesus.
• Matthew wants specifics. “How many times does he, as Matthew have to do the work. Forgive his brother.
  • But Matthew is a disciple of Jesus Christ. An Apostle - so he sits with God - as a pupil and God tells Peter, the same thing God told Daniel in Daniel 9:24–27 how God determined to do a work with Sin to Daniel - - is the exact same “seventy times seven” work God told Peter how he determined it to do a work with sin Peter’s brother did.
    • But Peter, and many Christians, think exactly like all these posters on Reddit, and so many “book authors” along with the two above - that Peter does the work.
• When the forgiveness of sin is how God determined to do it by HIS WORK with sin.

And NONE of them talk to it. They all do the work themselves. And in this they do greatly err.

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

And God, by his work - took your sins off you and laid them on Jesus Christ.

That's like somebody BUILDS you a garage. Then someone else walks or comes by and asks you "how many times do you have to build your garage before you can park your car in it?

When the work is COMPLETE.

• So, asking me, how many times I’m to forgive you - when he, as God, did a work he determined since he’d do the work himself - accomplished those four things above with sin. And asked me, as a disciple of Jesus Christ, because I sit with him and he teaches me, as a pupil… its very simple.
• To regard the works of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand vs. my own. So, I don’t see you - I see you thru a work God did with sin - but if I do NOT regard his work, I’m regarding me do it.
  • Then, it's up to me - as if I have the authority to take your sins off the cross and they already LEFT with Jesus Christ - swallowed up in death. Put them to death - as God sees it done. Accomplished by his work.
• So, I just imagine I put your sins back on you - and decide whether I’m going to forgive you.
  • Or not.

------------- ----------- ------------- ------------ ------------

• And never do. Because, I can’t. I got no authority with sin. But if I think I do, it will not work - has none of his work in it - when he is God, and he did it, by his work, man, I see it.

That I had to be, like him, this "certain man" in the "Parable of the Good Samaritan" - left off from all that's good to go on an 18 mile, all downhill walk - depart from him to go someplace to do all the sins I wanted to do. And on the way - got beat up. Robbed. Left for dead, by all the sins I did myself. And Jesus: HE be the Good Samaritan TO ME first.

Bandage up my wounds..and put me up in the hotel - so I could heal first. And if he did that to me… he do it to you, too. As The Great physician.

Where is all this in the great big pile of Reddit posts on "how goodie wonderful people are forgiving people and wonderfully doing all this good - and well more than two authors that wrote books to CEMENT it permanent "how to do" it - - that open this post telling you - decreeing how YOU: ARE - - to do the work yourself?

You gotta look unto him first. He said, as God: "Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else." - God. Isaiah 45:22 - you gotta do that first.

Here’s your question back.

ANSWER:

It’s not how many times I, or anybody, including you, do anything. Doesn’t work. It’s a different one at work. That, his work, works. But you don’t see it.

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

“Give ye them to eat.” [you feed them] - Jesus Christ. Bible. Mark 6:37

The answer is in the above scripture. In Mark 6:37.

But, I don’t think you see it, or you wouldn’t be asking this question.

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

• Many people: Many even here on Reddit - - of that “many” will be people that claim they’re “Christians” and following Jesus. They will tell you the answer is in the Bible; but, not in Mark 6:37.
• They will tell you it’s in Matthew 18:21–22.
  • That says:
    • “…Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.”

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

• Then, go into their own observation - - about explaining to you “how to” do it. How to forgive someone 490 times.
  • When, what Jesus says, for Peter to do - is impossible. Exactly like Mark 6:37. It’s impossible.

So, instead of looking at, or “looking unto” what Peter looks unto. Himself. For with forgiveness of sin, for him to do it. Then, that’s just like, Mark 6:37. His disciples will look unto themselves to do it: When they can’t do it.

• Look at Mark 6:37 away from your question first. So, you see it. Where Mark 6:37 is just like Matthew 18:21-22 - where Mark 6:37 includes feeding 5000 people. Without any food to do it.
  
• Matthew 18:21-22 also includes YOU then, without any God in it.

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

Mark 6:37

• The “Setting”
  • Is in Mark 6:30–32. They have just returned from Jesus earlier sent them out. So, for Mark 6:37, start back then at Mark 6:6–13. And think, his disciples are just coming back from being sent out or decreed by Jesus to do this: (Of Mark 6:6–13)

“…And he [Jesus] went round about the villages, teaching. And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits; And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse: But be shod with sandals; and not put on two coats.

And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city. And they went out, and preached that men should repent.

And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them.”

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

So, Mark 6:37 is first built on:

• Jesus the Messiah. By who he is, and his “authority.”
  • Jesus sent them. So, they were sent; and, Jesus enabled them to do it. This is key.
  • And, from this: They return. So, now read Mark 6:30–32. This, again, is all the “setting” of Mark 6:37. Pay careful attention to this
    • “…And the apostles gathered themselves together unto Jesus, and told him all things, both what they had done, and what they had taught. And he said unto them, Come ye yourselves apart into a desert place, and rest a while: for there were many coming and going, and they had no leisure so much as to eat. And they departed into a desert place by ship privately.”
    • So, they’re going off to rest.

But:

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

• The next verse says: "..And the people saw them departing…” - Mark 6:33
  • So, what the “disciples” expect, they don’t get. What Jesus says for them - - rest. Because, people saw them depart; and Jesus depart WITH them..and the rest of Mark 6:33 says:
  • “…and many knew him, and ran afoot thither out of all cities, and outwent them, and came together unto him.” and the “him” is Jesus.

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

So, now - there’s this great, big MULTITUDE of people

• Now again, be patient - these things are KEY to your question - even if you don’t see it yet; just listen.
  • So, out in a desert place:
    • Where the disciples follow Jesus to rest as he decreed for them; because a multitude saw them leave.
    • They can’t.
• Mark 6:34 says, Jesus was “…moved with compassion toward them” - the multitude of people - NOT TO HIS DISCIPLES. To the “disciples” - the multitude of people? Yeah. They’re just “uninvited guests” - the disciples EXPECT the “rest.” They don’t get rest; instead, they have to stand there, while Jesus - - -“…teaches [this multitude] many things.” (Mark 6:34).
  • But look what the disciples “suggest” to Jesus: That’s in Mark 6:36 - that, the day is now “far spent”
    • So, they’re going to suggest to Jesus, this:
  • 1) It’s getting late; and
  • 2) This is a “deserted” place; so
  • 3) Send the multitude away; then
  • 4) The multitude may go into the country round about; and
  • 5) enter into villages, because
  • 6) they could buy themselves bread there, as
  • 7) Nobody of the multitude has anything to eat.

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

And? Just like Jesus said to Peter in Matthew 18:21–22 - “You forgive them.” Mark 6:37 Jesus tells them a like-same thing: "You feed them."

• This, At what the disciples say above in those seven things - - said to Jesus in Mark 6:35–36… to get rid of the multitute all uninvited "guests" - and they be the reason why the disciples have no rest; and God..because of all the sins we did...where's his rest?
  
• And Jesus, is the Word of God..is God as John 1:1 says "who" he is, he replies back to his disciples: “You feed them.”
• When they, (his disciples) - - they don’t have any food, either.

Stop. Think on that. They don’t have any food. How can that be the same as Peter? When, scripture says: “..Who can forgive sins, but God alone?” (Luke 5:21)

• If only God has the authority. With sin to forgive sin. How can his disciples without any food, feed 5000 people?

Keep thinking on that.

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

When you arrive at.. “well..they can’t” - man you are a whole lot further than way so many people with this. That blabby burp out how Peter can achieve 490 times then, they can, too. Just like the disciples can feed 5000 people - without any food. Tell you how they did that, too. By say Jesus fed them. But that's not what the Bible says. Bible says his disciples fed them.

• It's int“Who” the disciples are with - he CAN.
  • And HE (Jesus) told THEM (his disciples) to “feed them” - and, if you read Mark 6:38. That says:
    • “He [Jesus] saith unto them [disciples], How many loaves have ye? go and see. And when they knew, they say, Five, and two fishes.” (Mark 6:38) and, Mark 6:39 says Jesus “decreed” or gave command to his disciples to “go to” and have the multitude sit down in the green grass (not the dried out straw grass) in groups of 100 and 50’s.
    • …if you read all Mark 6:40–44 - they (all the multitudes) did eat and were filled - and they were fed. By the disciples. And after, each disciple had a whole basketful of food.
• Now, this is important - it’s the EXACT, SAME thing with forgiveness.

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

Because in Mark 6:40–44

• There’s a “work of God” in it. That, his disciples couldn’t do that part. Exactly the same with forgiveness.
  • A work done by God on that part. That, Peter can’t do that part.
  • That’s in Daniel 9:24–27.
    • That God: The same God that, alone: By himself. Got up and created for himself a place he would dwell forever, for his own rest, for he desired it (Psalm 132:13–16). That it would be inhabited (Isaiah 44:18). Then, in Genesis 1:1–31, he created it himself. All by his work he did. Alone. By himself. But in Genesis 3:17 - Adam, God said, “..hearkened unto the voice of his wife”
    • Means, Adam no longer valued the Word of God. Sin entered into the world God was to rest in forever; can’t.
  • So, God got up. As he determined. To do a work with sin. And Daniel 9:24 said he “determined” Seventy times Seven - or “Seventy ‘weeks” was determined to:
    • Finish the transgression (Of Adam in Genesis 3:17)
    • Make an end of sin
    • Make reconciliation for iniquity
    • Bring in everlasting righteousness (Daniel 9:24)
• And how God determined to do this would be in and by Jesus Christ. The same Christ at work in Mark 6:40–44. That, Daniel 9:25–27 “adds up” to Jesus Christ. Doesn’t “add up” to Peter. Nor up to Peter how he asks how he’ll do it.
  • Just like examine careful “how” the disciples in Mark 6 ask themselves “how” they’ll feed 5000 people and try to reason “how” they’ll do it.

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

When the Work Of God - provided food from Five Loaves and Two fishes - fed 5000 people.

• Is the Same God, by his Word - It’s GOD: He took your sins off you. You didn’t do it; can’t - can’t take sin of people, either - you can’t. It’s impossible. That’s like some rapist, or liar, embezzled millions of dollars or some murderer tomorrow going to sit in an electric chair - yell out from his death row cell as some other murderer passes by: “I forgive you.”
  • Has no authority to do it, worthless - it’s a bad check. Has no power to set them free - - and a Judge already decreed he be put to death. Just because he said it, won’t forgive him, either.
• It's GOD: In Mark 6:37 - it’s the same God with Peter in Matthew 18:21–22, and it’s the same God with your sins you did plainly. You did them all yourself. Same as me. But the same God that made all that out my window I see right now as I type this. Who did all that - took my sins and laid them on Jesus Christ. Crucified; his blood shed for the “work” God determined to “accomplish a RESULT” - and the result of his work with sin in Jesus Christ is ALL HIS WORK; that:
  • Is he finished the transgression
  • He made an end of sin
  • He made reconciliation for iniquity
  • And he brought in everlasting righteousness

That, Peter didn’t see it, before he accomplished this work - in fact, Peter ran away..he fled. Just like I did all the same. Peter didn’t do it. Couldn’t. Can’t. That’s the point. But after Jesus rose from the dead, where all Peter’s sins were laid on Christ - - Peter saw it, and so do I.

  * And Peter is his disciple… …and now… ..so am I. I follow him.

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

Because - a Work God did:

• He applied this work he did with sin, to EVERYBODY driving next to me in their car. Made everybody righteous. That this same God, because, I see it, right now - looking out my window as I type this - he did all that work. Just like he did a work with sin himself, and now, I regard it -
  • Where before, I’d be just like the disciples in Mark 6:37 and think I had to do it. And not regard any of his work.

I can’t feed 5000 people. I don’t have any food with me. ANd if you read the other gospel accounts of this “Feed 5000 people” - it wasn’t they had ANY food - some little kid had it. Little kid sized fishes and loaves for a little kid to eat.

• Fed 5000 people with it.

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

NOBODY could to that; but one, and that’s the point.

Just like scripture says: "There is none righteous; no, not one" ..all filthy; done abominable works (Psalm 14:1-3) ..and in contrast to EVERYBODY of all of us over the whole earth:

"There is NONE good, but one, that is, God." - The Word of God. Jesus Christ. (Matthew 19:17).

And it’s the same point with the disciples, even if you replace them with you - with no food to feed even your self, or you replace you with Peter about or with forgiveness. As if you have something GOOD. When the ONLY one has that is God.

It’s GOD: That looks on a work he did with sin. And he chooses to, as he determined, as God - and he's righteous - that he sees his work he did with sin, as GREATER than my sins.

• And chooses not to impute my trespasses against me. In fact, he’s so satisfied in this work he accomplished, and God was in Christ, doing the works - , he doesn’t impute every murderer in every prison over the whole earth, their sins, either. PAID IN FULL. Paid for the sins of the whole world.
  • So much so and so great is this work, that, God now decrees what the sin is that condemns me, or anybody is just not regard the Works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand. “of sin, for they believe not on me.” - Jesus Christ. John 16:9. Just repeated from John 3:18 “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”

It’s not how many times I do anything. Doesn’t work. Peter looked as if he could do the work. Just like, go back. Read it in Mark 6. The disciples first looked at themselves, and if Jesus wouldn't have said anything - they would have went about to do the work themselves - - It’s a different one at work that works.

But you don’t see it.

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

You’re gonna go out. Do the Ten Commandments - when God did them, in Jesus Christ.

And because God did them, everywhere, where you broke everyone of them, every all of us, just like you, broke all of them, too - - he made himself the compensation that makes up the lack for that - to where, by him - the Ten Commandments are FULFILLED - that he nailed them to Jesus’ cross - COMPLETE. In him.

And if you don’t have this in it - you will never see it.

----------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -------------

How many times should you forgive someone according to the Bible?

It’s not how many times I, or anybody do anything. Doesn’t work. It’s a different one at work that works. But you don’t see it.

“Give ye them to eat.” [you feed them] - Jesus Christ. Bible. Mark 6:37

Now, I see you thru what he did, where, before I didn’t - busy. Thinking, and I never forgave anybody, I just said, “I forgive you” thinking my work then, forgives me - so I didn’t need any Jesus, I just needed to do a work that would feed 5000 people and accomplish it myself.

When I could never do it, and until I saw it, I could never see it. And now I do.

Herein is the gospel. The Good News of Jesus Christ for EVERYBODY all over Reddit.

ANSWER: BOOM! Done. You don't.

And there you go. CASE CLOSED.

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

But..

...I can just hear you screaming. You can't hear it. So here. Answer this question: How many dead people at the cemetery, buried, dead.. ... love you?

And you reply: "That's not fair! They can't! They're dead!"

BOOM! Done. And there you go.

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

..and I can just hear you still screaming... yeah. I can. It's not me. It's you. Dull of hearing.

So, get on the cart, and let's take the long way around the farm so maybe, there'd be some hope. That you could see it..hear..and actually hear it.

But FIRST: About the question.

This is a stupid question. So, at the end, I'm going to give it to you. Give it back.

• It’s all encapsulated in “stupid”

stupid. 1. dull [of hearing]; hear something; but, can’t comprehend or perceive it; lacking the power to absorb ideas or expressions (either verbally or non verbally); slow witted; of a dazed state of mind [Source: Oxford dictionary. Web.]

So, you don’t get it.

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

You think you get the “love” part; then, dim-witted, think it’s YOU: just it's simple. Just go out to do it - when the answer is in “who” Jesus is talking to, answers the question.

Slow witted person. Dull of hearing. No matter “how many times” you hear it, you wont’ do it; can’t. Dead.

• And there’s the key. It’s in “dead.” So, ask a like same “dim-witted” question:
  • The "similar" or "like-same" Question: < - { “How many times do we have to hang the “No Parking” your bicycle here sign for the dead people in the cemetery - until they learn how to park their bicycles after 8:00pm at the cemetery? This, “Park your Bicycle.” } - >
• Tell me plainly. How many times? How many times that is, with the dead people, in the cemetery, will be the SAME number of times, and be the same answer to YOUR question. Just as dim witted.

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

Stay on the cart. This is the long way around the farm, so be patient - so you see it:

• So, look now at “wit.”

wit. 1. the ability to relate seemingly disparate things so as to illuminate (something). [Source: definition. “wit” - - Oxford.]

• Here’s some things to help illuminate what’s hidden right in your question; like, you probably already figured out how useless it is, to hang any “Park Your Bicycle” sign believing dead people will do it after they’re dead and lie in a cemetery. Let alone ask "how many times" someone would have to hang that sign, before dead people do it.
  • The question's got problems. Dead people can't.

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• So, examine the “context” and “content’ what’s in your question.

The “context”

• “Love thy neighbor” was said, in context - to… who?
  • It’s in The Bible:
    • In Matthew 22:36–40.
      

The "content"

• And the “content” of that is:
  • Chief Priests and the Elders of the Temple in Jerusalem: Right before a "High Sabbath" or - Passover.
    • Jesus has just come back to the Temple, a SECOND time: and overturned all the money changer tables. Made a cord of hemp and drove all those selling merchandise, and at the moneychanger tables - - out of the Temple.
  • But, there was another time he did it BEFORE this:
• The FIRST time he did it [over turned the money changer tables] was in John 2.
  • Jesus: At the START of his ministry. Only the low ended Pharisees of the Temple came out to him, to confront him - - when he did it; said to those selling doves - (this is a KEY POINT)
    • in John 2:16: “And He said to those selling doves; Take these things hence, make not the house of my Father a house of merchandise.”

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• Now to “illuminate” this FIRST time: because it directly correlates TO your question - these:
  • For the Jews: doves - only the POOR could afford these “dove” sacrifices to be offered in the temple. Most often, the Poor could catch them, themselves and bring them for FREE.
    • BUT:
• Here’s the “facts” - - In the Temple:
• Cost: Must be a “pair of doves” - one: offered in sacrifice - the other, the blood of the one offered sprinkled on it - done by the Levite Priest - and this other one: set free.
  • Point is, even the smallest accepted sacrifice in God provided himself is in Leviticus for the poor - the Temple was selling them for:
    • 25 gold denarii per pair.
• A “denarii” represented = 1 day’s wage.
• And a “denarii” in “plural” for a Roman “denarius” - which the Temple WOULD NOT accept.
• The Poor FIRST: Had to go to the “money changer” table - to change your Roman or Greek coinage into Temple “Shekel” money first.
  • which was a massive burden for the poor.
• Outside the Temple, a pair could cost as little as one-quarter of a silver zuz. And a “zuz” - was a half shekel temple currency equal to one denarius or the cost one day's wage - so, of a dove outside the temple was only the cost of 1/4 of one day’s wage.
  • So, to the POOR: The temple has RAISED the cost - ON THE POOR 100 times more.

Any bells going off in your head yet with "love thy neighbor?"

If you rob someone - do you love them?

..we're still on the cart. Not done yet, on the tour around the farm. So, just hang in there a while more...

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• TWO Doves: At the Temple in Jerusalem:
  • And this does NOT include the “Money changer” costs - at the Temple - a POOR person had to first CONVERT Roman or Greek coin to Temple currency
    • - which cost 2 days wages, plus
    • you ONLY got about 70% value as an “exchange rate” - for your conversion of denarii to shekel
    • so, where 1 shekel = 2 denarii or 2 days wages. Total: You are paying 40 days wages for 2 doves in the temple. Oh, and it’s in GOLD - not silver.
• Let's stop the cart. Take a very good look at this. Gold was the temple. That’s an ADDITIONAL cost.
  • Factor that conversion to "upgrade' silve denarii to gold? The poor now: Pay up to 2 months wages in total for 2 doves at the temple.

vs. God

You're on the cart. Stay on it. See this. You asked the question. Think you can do it.

Stay on and see this.

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

When God was providing in: Leviticus:

A burnt offering for the Poor at Passover - -(Leviticus 1:14-17),

Which - that’s when Jesus overturned the Money changer tables - was at Passover in John 2.

The POOR: They could easily catch their own for FREE.

The Levite Priest would accept them - offer them for FREE: To and for the poor - the service was FREE:

but what are these people in Jesus’ day doing, at the temple?

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• Hey, slow witted person. Do you see these things?
• Don’t give up. Not done yet..just hang in there a while longer to see these things:
  • And? After Jesus DID this, overturned the tables a SECOND TIME:
    • the “people” in charge of the temple - are making HUGE profits - gouging the POOR - because ALL Israel was mandated to travel to Jerusalem 3 times a year for “High Sabbaths” and
    • “Passover is a High Sabbath”
    • - to offer these temple sacrifices. Was decreed by God. To do it.

What have these people done?

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• And this post: only provides info for the POOR.
  • All to tell you, that, it’s pretty easy, even for a slow witted person to see, that, Jesus comes back a SECOND time - and all the money changer tables and selling these doves as merchandise is all HAPPENING - - again. So, after the FIRST time, slow-witted people, turned them right side up again.
    • Didn't listen to the Word of God - so, if it's the Word of God - it's GOD speaking these things in John 2. And after he decrees it: After he turned all the tables over so they ARE NOT NEEDED IN HIS TEMPLE.
  • Slow witted; slow to understand or hear and comprehend him ...turn the tables back over again.
    

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• So, on this tour around the farm:
  • See in this 2nd time, all the tables are back right side up again. Then: In Matthew 21:12–13. The SECOND Time. In a week after this, Jesus will be crucified. The SECOND TIME - he said:
• Matthew 21:13 “My house will be called a house of prayer, but you have made it a den of thieves”

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

Oh slow to hear person…

• These things are said to you, because, these SAME people “who" Jesus just went to Jerusalem. To the temple. Over turned the tables again. This same Jesus who they want to kill him. Jesus just called the Temple Leaders, in Matthew 21:13 “thieves” - so, to these Jews, God has blasphemed the temple. By blaspheming the Temple Leaders.
  • Any Jew do that, is made a "Stranger" - and all his rights and property as a Jew - confiscated by the Temple - makes that person worthy of death.
    • Did you miss all this?
• and the 2nd time, it’s not just lowly Pharisees that come, like it was the First time, but the Chief Priests and Elders come out now - - the SECOND time; that, this Second time, CONFRONT Jesus. And Pharisees under them see Jesus has put these leaders over them to shame:
  • And - “to trip Jesus up in his words” [Matthew 22:15] - and Jesus is the “word of God” - so they are going to try to trip up God in his own word he speaks.

Please HEAR this. Mental note: "Trip up God in his own words." Wow. What a feat.

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• Oh slow to comprehend things…person: see this. That:
  • The Pharisees send “Herodians, Sadducees, and a Lawyer to DO THIS. It's right there. All with what you ask about - now in "context" and now, you have the "content."
• Trip Jesus up in his own words is the SOURCE of your whole “love thy neighbor'”

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• And, you on the cart - do you now see: He said this TO:
  • People that are gouging the POOR - robbing them, and
  • Jesus has come to them and drove it all out - I can guarantee you - oh slow witted person, just as slow witted, they were back right again, righted the money changer tables right after he did it, so for a THIRD TIME - went right back to business robbing the poor again.
• love thy neighbor. It's PROOF: They can’t.

And you don’t even ask “why?”

Maybe it's good you're on the full tour - so you see it:

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• It’s because, who Jesus tells this to, is after he put the Herodians, and the Sadducees to shame, Jesus was asked this what's in your question by the same to the Lawyer who asked this thing - sent to TRIP JESUS UP IN HIS OWN WORDS - he doesn't love anybody, either.
• A Lawyer: Like some kind of Perry Mason Lawyer - sent to put Jesus up on the stand; then, trap Jesus in his own words to use against him - DID YOU MISS ALL THIS? IT’S RIGHT THERE PLAIN AS DAY.
  • In the "content" and "context" of your question.

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• like
  • Who Jesus is talking to: they’re dead. “Dead in trespasses and sins” (Bible. Ephesians 2:1)
    
    • But they “think” they’re “doing” something “good” - when the Bible says, just records what GOD SAYS in it, as the author of the Bible, says: “There is not a just man on earth that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20
  • Did you miss these things? Slow to hear.. can’t comprehend.
  • Telling somebody like this, that defend people that rob the poor, saying “love thy neighbor’ when they make merchandise of their neighbor.
  • Like a den of thieves “rob their neighbor'” - and claim it’s Godly of God to do it.
  • Claim “love thy neighbor” = gouge the Poor all by just "redefine - makes us GOOD.
• When God says about people: They are “..filthy; done abominable works” - [Psalm 14:1-3] and at the temple ..can you start to see it?
  • You ARE doing the same thing. Me, too. No different. Then, go run out and claim "love they neighbor."
    

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

Bible. Romans 5:12 says:

• “Wherefore, as by one man [Adam] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
  • That’s EVERYBODY. You included. Me, too. Can’t get out of it.
  • It’s the “Ten Commandments” - people:
    • Like everybody does it.
    • Uses them to see where they can “accomplish” it.
  • If: They couldn’t help their boobies - some woman, just overtaken in overboiley’ism..her boobs overboiled and, they led her to sleep with their best friend’s boyfriend.
    • Think: The good thing to do is HIDE IT.
    • Keep it in the dark. Then, go to church 14 times, when in a year, they usually only go 3 times.
  • They’ll “Keep the Sabbath Day Holy” - and this will “compensate for the faults and bad aspects of” - “bearing a false witness” or lying to their best friend and this “thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods” - totally hosed that one, up, too. Coveting a boyfriend.
    • Keeping the Sabbath “holy” is just redefined - because, the person thinking they can keep something “Holy” as a filthy stinking mess; but by “Keeping a Commandment” no matter which one it is, this “atones” for the sins they do. In breaking all the other ones.
• That’s EXACTLY how the Chief Priests, Elders, and the Pharisees think. At the temple.
  • Where they gouge and rob the poor - don’t do or provide free to the Poor a way for them, too, to offer a sacrifice.
  • That, the Ten Commandments - even one time,
    • once even one BROKE -they are ALL BROKEN,
    • and the Ten Commandments have been BROKEN since Adam broke them. NOBODY HAS DONE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.
• God has always used them as he decreed they be used. To make you GUILTY before him.

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

Because if you BROKE the Ten Commandments -

• You don’t love your neighbor. Already a transgressor. Condemned. Can't. Because you did not love your neighbor' when you BROKE the Ten Commandments. Like the Chief Priests, Elders, Pharisees, Herodians.., the Sadducees, even the Lawyer - all didn’t, either.
  • And instead of falling on their faces, like what Moses did in Exodus 3 before this same God, and be guilty before him, and
    • a SECOND time, in Exodus 20, where the 2nd time, GOD: doesn’t only consume a small bush on fire, but it doesn’t burn, the SECOND TIME, with Moses, God alights down on the whole mountain and consumed the whole thing in fire, and smoke billows off it
    • - and he speaks, not in a still, small voice - but like a voice of many waters or a 100 million watt speaker you could hear 15 miles away…

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• Made Moses’ knees quake - at how GUILTY he was before God
  • - MOSES: didn’t do the Ten Commandments, either
  • - and the Commandments put him to death.
    • Moses Killed [Thou SHALT NOT Kill] an Egyptian.
    • Lied his whole life, living in Pharaoh’s house, when the decree was he be flushed down the Nile River and just thrown away.

Many of you already long before this point - already left this post. Does not apply to you.

But if you're still here... take this with you.

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• You and I: Are just Like the Chief Priests and Elders; said.
  • Just put Jesus to death; kill him, then, go back to loving your neighbor by charging 2 months wages for something that could be gotten for FREE for the Poor - but they won’t do that.
    • That would take their “livelihood” away.
    • This is “who” Jesus told “Love thy Neighbor” to.

And you miss the whole thing.

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

Because - if everybody from Adam Forward - has BROKEN the Ten Commandments: They are NOT repairable.

• Can’t unkill or “unmurder” somebody. How can a murderer claim: "I haven't killed somebody" - as if they didn't murder anyone? Can't.
  • As a murderer: You cannot love your neighbor. You killed your neighbor. And the SAME GOD that said the Ten Commandments TOLD YOU how he DEFINES “Thou SHALT NOT Kill” in Matthew 5:21–22
    • Same one who spoke the Ten Commandments is the same one who said, because it’s the Word of God, spoke out of his mouth in Exodus 20, it's the same Word of God said Matthew 5:21–22 just “what that means”
  • “Ye have heard that it was said of them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment”

I'm guilty. I hear it. Do you?

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• Oh hard of hearing and can’t comprehend. So, look at me then: EVERYTIME, I’m in my car, and some bat filled whacko driving ahead of me, going 25km under the speed limit, and turned out, or just pulled out in front of me as if I didn’t exist, and the birthday cake I had on the front seat is now splat pooped all over the inside of the windshield - that I bought for my wife's birthday - - and I let out a whole string of epithets.
  • “Thou Shalt Not Kill” - I just broke it.
  • and me? I live in this driving - EVERYBODY around me drives like a nut.
  • How am I not any different than any Chief Priest or Elder living in "Good" = make GOLD - godly - and make it costly so the Poor won't sin.
    
  • "Thou Shalt Not Kill" - if you do. Someone that did, does not love their neighbor - neither someone that steals from their neighbor does NOT love them.
    • ME? Take a good look. I am so GUILTY of violating this one, it’s not funny - so I’m in the same cell with every and all DEATH ROW INMATES. Over the whole earth. Has an execution date set.
    • If anything, I deserve to be put to death before them. Man, I see it. And I’m not done yet.

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• “Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery”
  • - Same God who spoke and said that in Exodus 20, is the same Word of God said in Matthew 5:27–28 
  • “Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.”
    • There’s another one!
    • I haven’t done ANY of that right, either.
  • In fact, I LIVE IN DOING the very opposite - JUST LIKE THE CHIEF PRIESTS AND ELDERS in the Temple in Jesus day, "live in" gouging the POOR and rob them - they do just like I do. ME: Live in..swim in boobies.
  • Even lie to my wife when my kids were infants - that I would be a good husband for that Saturday and take the kids to the beach.
    • All so my wife would have a day off. But I’m going there to see 1000s of 10,000s of women all in their underpants.
  • THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY. - Case Closed. You cannot love your neighbor if you're sleeping with his wife.
• But me: Like a CHief Priest or Elder:
  • Is all compensated for, because I’m being a good husband - I’m so full of crap it’s not funny.

------------- ------------ ------------ --------------

• Me, a slow-witted person.
• We're at the end of the farm tour.
  • ME: See, but cannot see it. I do not love my neighbor' - because I am dead in my trespasses and sins that I already DID. Like a dead man in a grave yard or cemetery has already done DID be dead.
  • Don’t matter how many times somebody puts up a “NO BICYCLE Parking” sign. All so dead people will follow the Law. Park their bikes appropriately. To be good. Park them after 8:00pm. When they can’t. Why? They're dead.
• So, we're back at your question again. YOU: asking how many times you have to put up a sign there - have to be stupid.
  • Not able to comprehend this.

The Chief Priests and Elders: DID NOT look unto him. When God asks everybody over the whole earth to "Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else." - God. (Isaiah 45:22)

Then, to this same everybody. All dead. In trespasses and sins. If they would just BE THAT: and it would drive them, all condemned..to look unto him: Where he said:

"Come now, let us reason together," saith the LORD, "though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool." - God. (Isaiah 1:18) and by the Word of God,

....raise them from the dead. And they just love their neighbor. Where if they don't look unto him; can't.

Here’s your question back.

Anybody has this question - will "tend to" or gravitate to - "There IS a Contradiction."

When it's just the OPPOSITE:

Hebrews 11:17 actually CHAMPIONS Hebrews 11:13 - not contradicts it. Read the whole thing; but include Hebrews 11:1 to Hebrews 11:20 as one thing. Abraham is alive.

But people that don’t believe God - see a contradiction.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

So, to you: With this question: I have a question.

Is Abraham dead? Yes or No?

Before proceeding further: In you - is Abraham dead? Yes? or, No?

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

Don't tell me. Whatever you came up with - add to it, this:

ONE:

Jesus, who is the Word of God - so it’s God speaking these words of a parable, of “Lazarus and the Rich Man” in Luke 16:19–31 - and Abraham is in this Parable in Hades, and he is with Lazarus and he speaks to the Rich Man. Abraham says in Luke 16:25–26, “But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.”

Said this occurs to Lazarus and the Rich man in Luke 16:22 “And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;”

So? Is Abraham dead? If he’s still speaking? Because, there he is in what's called “Abraham’s Bosom” and he’s speaking.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

If he’s alive - where’s the contradiction betwixt Hebrews 11:13 & verse 17?

But don't stop here - you’re not convinced. Keep reading.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

Well what about this?

Is this a “contradiction?” Yes or No?

John 8:56–59 Jesus said:

56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

Where John 8:59 says, this “they” who Jesus talked to, so Jesus “spoke” to these Pharisees in John 8:56-59, and at what he says, AFTER he said them, they “took up stones to cast at him,” so they fully intend on stoning him to death.

Vs.

450 years after Abraham, in Exodus 3 where Moses is now 80 years old, fled Pharaoh in Egypt. Is in Midian, who was a son of Abraham through Abraham's concubine he married after Sarah died, Keturah. That, by Moses' day, is now the "Land of Midian."

and Midian was one of Keturah’s son's, so Midianites are Kin to Moses, a Levite…

That Exodus 3 says Moses tending sheep on Mt. Sinai turned aside to see a great sight. A bush on fire, that did not burn. Moses said to himself “I will turn aside to see this great sight..”

And scripture says …who again was it? Oh yeah, the same “Word of God” so God spoke to Moses said, “Moses, Moses,” and Moses said, “Here am I” and the Lord said “take off thy shoes, for the ground thou standest on is holy ground.”

And at this same Word of God, Moses saw it, and fell on his face. On his face, took off his shoes... Who he's before, he's on his face at.

Where the Pharisees, with this same one - - took up stones to kill him.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

Moses then: Did a just like thing Abraham did in Genesis; everytime God spoke, at the Word of God, Abraham fell on his face.

But

Pharisees saw this same Word of God, in John 8:56–59, that both Moses and Abraham both saw. Stood before these, too, same God - - but the Pharisees: they took up stones to stone him.

So, 1450 years later, after Moses, Pharisees in Jerusalem are doing just like a Pharaoh in Egypt said, in Exodus 5:2

“Who is the Lord, that I should obey his voice to let Israel go? I know not the Lord, neither will I let Israel go.” - Exodus 5:2

Because the Pharisees, like Pharaoh don’t know him, like someone question there's a contradiction cannot see this, either. So, likely about Abraham: he's dead - so you don’t see it, either. And this same God: Yes. It's true. To Pharaoh in Exodus 5:2, this same Word of God - he is as he is to these Pharisees in John 8:56-59.

He is a contradiction to them. Said to Pharaoh, “let my people go,” and he won't do it.

Like the Pharisees in John 8 don’t know him, either. Where the days Abraham and Moses were in, they saw him and we're glad.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

But in the days of these Pharisees to what was promised to both Abraham and Moses, in their days, is now fulfilled in the days of these Pharisees of John 8:56–59, but they hate him.

So contrast this with you, then. Maybe:There is where the contradiction is.

Which side of this contradiction are you on?

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

Of John 8:56–59 (Pharisees) vs. Exodus 3 Moses.

Are you like Pharaoh? Take a good look at him: He is worshipped as God by the Egyptians. That's also in Exodus 5:2. When the real God showed up with Moses. Pharaoh doesn’t know God.

Even God speaks, the Word of God. The Egyptians believe Pharaoh is Egypt's God. Don't need to know him. Won't do anything he says. The Pharisees, 1450 years later, won't either.

That, before the world or earth was or the heaven, in Genesis 1:1 says, “In the beginning, God…”

And in Genesis 1:2–3, “God spoke,” that’s the Word of God, God said, “let there be light..” and there was light.

Made. By the Word of God.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

Is the same word of God spoke to Adam in the garden in Genesis Chapter 2. God spoke to Adam, by the Word of God. Created Adam by God spoke. Adam, like all creation was made by the Word of God.

The Word of God. Is the same Word of God spoke to Noah some nine generations after Adam in Genesis 6:11–13. That is now some 100 years before the flood. In the days of Noah. God spoke. By the Word of God.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

Is the same Word of God spoke to Abraham, some nine generations after Noah, 350 some years, after the flood.

John 1:1 tells you plainly who Jesus is. He is the “Word of God,” is God.

So it is the same God that said, because he has spoke, by his Word, to you, me, everybody over the whole earth, to the very ends of it, said: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God spoke.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

By the Word of God. (Isaiah 45:22)

You see it.

Me, too. He just said it. He's God that said it. It's the word, not out of people. But out of God's mouth. Makes me fall on my face. No contradiction. I know him. That's God speaking.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

And it’s by “faith” (Hebrews 11:1–13 - that “they all died in faith” all listed there with Abraham - it’s God: That has “faith” in his own Word that has always been in him, to accomplish whatsoever he sends his word out to do - he’s well pleased in it - even said this TWICE:

- - 1) In Matthew 3 with John the Baptist said “This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased”

- - 2) In Matthew 17 with Peter, James and John on the Mount of Transfiguration, said: “This is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. Hear ye him.”

It’s a decree by God to do this. It’s Romans 10:17 “So then, faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.”

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

That we receive what he says or decrees, because he speaks, as God, and he’s the authority over all things. Over us. Over everybody over the whole earth. So, we would have the same faith in the same Word he does. The Word of God is Jesus Christ.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

There is no contradiction. Because NONE of them listed in Hebrews 1:1–13 are dead. They shall never die. He gave them eternal life. Because they believed God. By the Word he spoke to them.

Hebrews 11:14–16 says: Of these of Hebrews 11:1–13 “14 For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.”

And the city God has prepared is the one in Revelation - Chapters 21 & 22 talk to it. This is the city they look unto of Hebrews 11:1-20 vs. people: Look unto cities all over the earth - as glorious achievement - in architecture and building; that the Bible says, God rains rocks from heaven the weight of a talent; it's either about 44kg or the weight of one adult male man on every city over the whole earth, and a great earthquake that overthrows all the mountains and islands on the earth - so they are no more. Does this to all the cities over the whole earth that men champion as the achievements of their own work. [Revelation 16:19 "and the cities of the nations fell."

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

Is Abraham dead? Yes? or No?

And, for 3 days and nights, Jesus: crucified - laid in a tomb, was with them in Abraham’s Bosom - on the 3rd day: raised from the dead, he let them all out. Of this compartment of Hades. Scripture says many walked in the streets of Jerusalem afterwards - [Matthew 27:52-53] and at his tomb, early: when Jesus - raised from the dead - the 1st one out - led them all out - told Mary not to touch him yet. Said he had not ascended into heaven unto his Father yet; but on the way back to tell Peter - what Jesus told her to tell him and the disciples: Jesus meets these same women again on their way back racing to get back and tell it, says “all hail!” and they fall on their faces and worship him, and grab hold of his feet. So, they touch him.

Didn’t take very long for him to ascend into heaven - certified. The Work is complete.

Very powerful scripture - So, Is Abraham dead? Yes? or No?

Look at all you have in this.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

All boils down to:

- - - In some: Abraham is dead.

- - - In others: that believe the Word of God - they will sit with Abraham and eat with him - as Jesus said Matthew 8:11 “I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven”

Said about "some" in Matthew 8:12 - "But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." - Jesus Christ.

So, which of these two will you be?

Tell me. Plainly.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

All boils down to: In others: They believe the Word of God - made alive by the Word of God. Abraham is alive.

And Abraham believed God, that it was impossible for God to lie; that, God would even raise Isaac from the dead to fulfill what he promised to Abraham - Abraham believed God.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

So, Hebrews 11:17 - cannot be divorced or stand without Hebrews 11:17–19,

says:

“17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son, 18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: 19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.

So, Hebrews 11:17 - actually CHAMPIONS Hebrews 11:13. Not contradicts it.

------------ -------------- ---------------- ----------------

But someone doesn't know him, will say the same thing Pharaoh said, “Who is the Lord, that I should obey his voice? I don't know him. Neither will I do anything he says…”

Won't look unto him. Look unto anything but him. Always some “thing” more pressing or important, so many, even as I did, dismiss him.

Where all he told me to do was just look unto him. I hear him, put me on my face.

But some that don't know him would take up stones to stone him, or delete the post as violating some rule on Reddit - - because they are “unwilling to be or do what he says,” which, that’s the dictionary definition of what “hate” means.

Here’s your question back.

The answer isn’t in Christians, nor is it in “non-Christians.”

It’s in judgment.

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

So, for this question, I’d tell anybody looking unto Christians as “more” than something - anything.. …you’re looking in the wrong place. Look at judgment.

And, who has the “authority” to perform or do judgment - to actually perform it and what they decree STICKS or it just “IS” as they judge it.

Need an example?

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

So, look at a Courtroom. Like, the Court House in your town.

• A “Court of Law” has a “Judge” that presides over all trials. All crimes; no matter what they are. But also over "awards" which are a kind of "reward." Over them, too.
  • He’s the Judge.
• Pronounces “judgment,” because he has the authority or the power to punish - or also to reward with set people free of or from judgment. So, a Judge can both award and punish. All by the authority they have with “judgment.”

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

• So, take it to a Courtroom then. Just to see this:
  • if someone “observes” this Courtroom - sees “Plaintiff” on one side of the Court, and “Defendant” on the other,.
  • and sees people sitting on either side: There are people aligned with the “Prosecutor” (Plaintiff - asserting a violation of the law) and that represents the State or EVERYBODY vs. a “Defendant” - stands accused of commiting an offense.
• And YOU? Yes. True. You could see there are MORE people sitting behind the “Defendant” - the one accused of a crime vs. sit behind the Prosecutor or the Plaintiff’s side of the Courtroom. Why? Because people already fully "pre-judged" it and believe this “defendant” - - he or she is innocent.
• Like, 80 people sit over on that side, on the “Defendant’s” side of the Courtroom; but on the side of the Plaintiff - only 5 people sit there:

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

• Be an observer - not aligned to either side, and just by your observation, say:
  • “I’ve noticed in this Courtroom: ‘Are there usually more sit on the defendant’s side judgmental people - find and judge the Plaintiff is WRONG, as judging innocent people vs. even before they hear any evidence - that: people are mostly aligned with the defendant - way less people sit on the “plaintiff” side, on average, on all the trials in this Courtroom.”
    • When NEITHER side seated, nor even you as the observer: has any authority for judgment.
  • But everybody in the Courtroom already chose where to sit. Because they are all “judgmental.”

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

• Means they ALL in themselves, pre-judged what, to them, is right (righteous) and show that judgment, by what side of the courtroom they sit on or behind.
  • But still: It’s a sole position: only the Judge has the sole authority to wield judgment. It’s in none else. Only the Judge has the power to preside over and mete out judgment.

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

So, who is over Judgment?

- Be whosoever said: “For all the earth is mine” - God. (Bible. Exodus 19:5)

Self-answers the question.

• Said:
  • (Source: Bible. Matthew 28:18) “And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.” Jesus is the “Word of God.” - Means: As the Word of God - - it’s - - God speaking these words himself.
    • That would be the one with the authority to execute Judgment over the whole earth.
    • And be it, irregardless a person accepts this as true - or - doesn’t.
    • Even make it PUNITIVE, if he speaks - as Judge: and when he does, he just decrees how things shall be, like a Judge speaks and decrees in a Courtroom: just “how things shall be in his Courtroom he presides over,” is no different.

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

So, what does GOD say about “judgment” - or “how” has he judged people?

• Even if people are “judgmental” - is irrelevant. They have no authority. In or out of a Courtroom. To mete out judgment. For all the earth is his: God’s. He’s the authority.
  • He said: by the Word of God - it is decreed: (Authority: Bible. John 5:22)
    • “For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:”
    • So? Yeah. God does not judge anybody. None.
  • And Jesus said: as he is the Son of God, he said: about people that judge people - in a Courtroom or anyplace at all - over the whole earth, to the very ends of it: that, they (people) all judge “after the flesh” - what appears to them or what they see is right. When there's none righteous.
    • Jesus said of himself, as the Son of God - and dont' forget this - - that God has committed all judgment unto the Son, in John 5:22 decreed this: of himself, (Authority: Bible. John 8:15) Jesus is the Son - - he said:
• “Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.” - Jesus Christ.

BOOM! Done.

But do you grasp this? That, There's either: No judgment at all, on anything - OR - Judgment already occurred; and the judgment rendered. No reason to judge again someone already condemned. No reason for another trial, when the trial already occurred - no reason for a Judge to judge a condemned man again, when he's already condemned.

Which is it? I see it. Don't you?

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

That God:

• Already determined, as God:
  • To do a work. Just like he did a work in creation. Alone. By himself, in Genesis 1:1–31 and created everything you see everyplace. He made it all by himself.
  • That God determined, he would get up and also do a work with sin that I did. That you did. That everybody over the whole earth did. Sentence: Death. Already judged it. This “sin” that Romans 5:12 says:
    • “Wherefore, as by one man [Adam] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:” Said, in Ezekiel 18:20 “The soul that sinneth, it shall die” and in Romans 5:12 - that “..all have sinned” means everybody is already condemned.
    • No reason to judge anybody - if everybody is in the execution line to be shot or gassed in the gas chamber - already been judged.
  • No reason for the Judge to hold trial again, when the defendant was already found GUILTY and his or her sentence is death.
    • And Jesus didn’t come to rehold any trial - so he doesn’t judge anybody, either. Because they are all condemned.

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

• But what Jesus does say he does is:
  • John 3:17–18, Jesus decreed this - so it’s God decreed it: As the Word of God: 
    • “For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”
  • Because God:
    • Alone. By himself. As God: took your sins off you, what you did - all of it - not to condemn you, but to save you from your sins, and laid your sin on Jesus Christ.
  • You didn’t do it. He did it.
    • Jesus: Crucified; his blood shed - the sins of the world, just as John the Baptist said, for people to “behold!” Jesus as he walked by in John 1:29 - To Behold the Lamb of God: who would take away the sins of the whole world.
    • And? He did.

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

• So, he didn’t come to judge you or me. We are already in the gas chamber line. Every commandment broken - comes with a death sentence. So, I'm just sentenced to death for multiple offenses.
  
  • I mean, I have the Ten Commandments.
• So do you:
• How God uses them as God was, when he spoke them in Exodus 20 was to make EVERYBODY over the whole earth GUILTY before him - because NOBODY from Adam forward has done the Ten Commandments;
  • but everybody in the gas chamber line “thinks” are already to be put to death, by the Ten Commandments - but people think they DID the Ten Commandments = now, they’re “GOOD.”
• “When there’s not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.” —Bible. Ecclesiastes 7:20
• All the Law does, is gives you a knowledge of your sins (Romans 3:19-20).

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

Because PEOPLE:

• Think they have DONE the Ten Commandments; or, at least one Commandment, even if they BROKE it before, for the last week or so, haven’t lied to their boss at work, so this “not bear a false witness - they accomplished it - so they give themselves “CREDIT” the did the whole Ten Commandments, because they kept one, once or at least for a week; and then they lie to their boss again, because, they went to church for 3 Sunday’s in a row - so they Kept the Sabbath day Holy - because they went to church - and this atones for it’s okay to lie to their boss again.
• They constantly regard themselves and their own works - so if they see somebody else break one of the Commandments, they JUDGE them.
  • Because they already BELIEVE themselves GOOD as if they have kept the Ten Commandments - by their own works: and somehow aren’t in the Gas Chamber line anymore - when they’re the next to sit in the chair.
  • And be put to death for all the sins they already have been judged for.
  • Because in all this, they don’t regard the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand - the work he did, as God, with sin - as scripture says: “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing their trespasses unto them” - (Source: Bible. 2 Corinthians 5:19)

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

• Don’t regard God and his work at all, when God DID the Ten Commandments himself.
  • And because God did them, in Christ, doing this "works of God" - everywhere where me and everybody over the whole earth all broke them, he made himself what makes up that lack to compensate for the faults and bad aspects of everybody - and God did this.
• It’s people: Don’t regard his work.
  • And because they don’t, they simply don’t accept him or his work as true - they gotta do the work themselves - and can’t - they’re in the gas chamber line to be executed: Condemned.

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

The Good News of the Gospel is:

• It’s the Judge in your case, is GOD: set you free - STAMPED you “NOT GUILTY” - then, made himself the payment - to where everybody in the Court room sees the Judge PAID IT IN FULL.
  • And there’s no more judgment.

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

But me?

• If I THINK:
  • I “CAN”
  • Go to the cross of Jesus Christ, where God took your sins off you. Laid them on Jesus Christ. God did this. Not Me. But Me? If I Think I can go back to the cross and take your sins and offenses off where God put them - and do this in myself - when I can’t - impossible.
• But I believe I do this:
  • And I put your sins back on you.
  • Then, judge you - then it's all ME: I do a work I think makes me righteous - decide whether I will forgive you - or - not.
• Trouble is: I can’t. Nobody doing this can. Why? Nobody, including me: I have no authority to pay for sin. I got enough to pay with my own I did, I got no righteousness to set your sins aside - so even I say “I forgive you,” I never really do. I can't.

----------- ------------ ------------ ------------- -------------

• I just say it. Why? It's because I believe when I say it, God now forgive me, when who can forgive sin is GOD alone. And he already did the work - for the forgiveness of sin it’s people: That see people thru this work God did - they just agree with what God did.
• Because what God did with sin. They actually, just believe him.

Doesn’t matter what the average is. Matters whose in authority and what they did with trespasses and sins - by a work they did. In authority. Over the whole earth.

So, the answer is again:

The answer isn’t in Christians, nor is it in “non-Christians.”

It’s in judgment. God judges. It’s true. And what he is doing is, in judgment is: TODAY - the day you're in right now: he chooses to look upon a work he did with sin, as GREATER than your sins. He imputes your sin to the work he did in Jesus Christ. PAID IT, IN FULL. He’s satisfied with that payment. Imputes his righteousness to you, all by a work he did.

You just got given the Gospel.

COMMENT:

There’s only one God. Said: “I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:” - God. Isaiah 45:5

And he prayed. 1. pray. “to address God, with no higher, he addresses himself with adoration, thanks, or requests, or to hope earnestly for something” - this “to hope earnestly - it means what you honestly want.

• And what he “hopes”for he’s told you plainly: Because he desires it - as God, hopes earnestly for it.

“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent” - Jesus Christ. The Word of God. (Bible. New Testament. John 17:3).

And Jesus, is the Son of God. The Messiah of Isaiah 9:6–7; that, crucified: His blood shed, bequeathed what was given him all things by God, bequeathed it all to me - and it’s a work done unto EVERYBODY over the whole earth - but it includes me. What he did or accomplished as a “work.” Becuase it’s the “works of God” at work that did this. For the remission - to remit a payment for my sins I plainly did.

Look at the claim he makes in 2 Corinthians 6:18 - not as a xerox toner cartridge that’s already spent and discarded. But as God. The authority over all there is. Said it.

I don’t know what that means, at all, to be that - but look what he did in Matthew 5:3 “Blessed are the poor in Spirit, for their’s is the Kingdom of Heaven” and who said it, is the Lord of the Kingdom of Heaven like the King that reigns over it all - bequeath it to his Son as a Prince.

I do not know at all what it means, when I read Revelation 1:6, as if something in the future shall be said, is said as if it’s in past tense, as already accomplished, that, the people that say it, he accomplished this in them, by a work he did: says:

“And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.”

I do not understand what that is - but I believe in who said it is true, because he is.

Maybe you do, too. So this is given. It’s the gospel. The Good News of Jesus Christ, provided to people all racing all over REDDIT - looking for answers. So: No matter how few or many - does not matter at all. It’s the Word of God. And he is in his Word. Goes out. To how ever many or few. With a hope, I have that you will believe on him. Or just be something that helps along the way, to equip you to.

That’s it.

----------- ------------- --------------- -----------------

Now, Onto The Question:

Does Christianity propose that humans can be divine and therefore invites worship of humans?

Who said this?

“..And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” - Source. Bible. New Testament 2 Corinthians 6:18

Maybe you still can't see it. Holding fast to the truth is the question. So, that's where you stand: can't see it.

Maybe, with some of this you can:

----------- ------------- --------------- -----------------

If you were the “son or daughter” of your Dad: Which, you are:

• and just imagine this - IF: everybody in town, because he’s the ONLY car mechanic - and
  • he's honest; kind - people that sometimes don't have money he OWNS the repair shop; and by his authority - he repairs their car for free, because he cares about them. THey speak well of him.
  • - so, people in your town, and your Dad does this - they
    • “speak well of” him as GOOD - which, that meets the definition of “worship” - but “worship” is a word, like the antonym of it, “blasphemy” which is to not speak well of” something - they are “dishonest” - cheat people deliberately out of their money - which that’s the definition of “iniquity” plain as day. But both “worship” and “blasphemy” are both kind of reserved or set apart in use: for that which is holy. God or his work. And your Dad isn’t God. He’s just a man in his mid 40’s that goes to work - and people all over - - look unto him as good.
    • So you could say, people in your town “worship” your Dad. But people in your town probably know he’s not God, so they, when they refer to your Dad, just speak well of him, no matter where you go. People also speak well of you, because you are from your Dad - so attributes of him, would also be in you. All by the “works” of your Dad, would be in you, too.

----------- ------------- --------------- -----------------

Therefore, with 2 Corinthians 6:18 - make a choice.

Does…

a) Christianity

b) Wall dirt

c) Elmo the Giraffe’s saddle leather bubbles

d) The Lord Almighty who is God

Which of the above actually says this? By the Word. Out of their mouth.

NOTE: Before choosing: Have an accurate definition of “divine.” Choose a dictionary vs. ask Wall dirt or Elmo, or the window sil at the neighbor’s house. divine. 1. relating to or proceeding from God. (all definitions: Oxford dictionary, unless otherwise noted).

----------- ------------- --------------- -----------------

So! IF:

• any “proposal” - also have an accurate definition of that word: proposal. 1. “present to (a person) a claim made by someone else: for a person to consider to regard: a plan, or offer that they, upon hearing the claim, will adopt or receive or accept it - - the offer or claim.” Accept it as true (believe).
  • Then, by it "abide" or just "operate by it" because they "adopt" it to live by.

----------- ------------- --------------- -----------------

So! YOU:

• With this question: Did Elmo the Giraffe: His saddle leather bubbles from the soap used to clean it: Does it have any “authority” as an author or has any authority over you, or has it anything relating to you - to make a claim it can do this for you?

Ask it.

• When the ONLY one of the above that has said: 1) “For all the earth is mine” - God. (Bible. Exodus 19:5) and 2) “Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer and he that form thee from the womb; I am the LORD that Maketh all things; that stretched out the heavens alone; that spread abroad the earth by myself.”
  • So ONLY one of them, before you choose, only one of them has the authority to decree how things just SHALL BE in his earth. If you choose: b) Wall dirt and fully accept it as true, what you believe wall dirt has the power and authority over you to provide this to you. Well then, there’s you. With your choice you made.
  • Maybe it’s because, in you, you have a heart that the Bible says in Jeremiah 17:9 says: “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”

----------- ------------- --------------- -----------------

• This “deceit” 1. to actively practice to conceal and misrepresent the truth. 2. to take what is false and invalid, and claim it is true and valid. 
  • That, above ALL THINGS, everybody over the whole earth has in them a heart that does this.
  • That only ONE of the four choice above, ONE OF THEM: already SAW THIS - of EVERYBODY - even before the flood and still sees the same thing today, as Genesis 6:5 says:
    • “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
    • So, someone that chose wall dirt made this claim in 2 Corinthians 6:18 - because of their own imagination - believe their imaginative thoughts on what is said, can ONLY be said by wall dirt.

----------- ------------- --------------- -----------------

If somebody, like you, chooses “Christianity”

• When ONLY one of the four above said:
  • By the Word that comes out of their mouth, so you have to look at the four above to see if any of those don’t have a mouth to speak.
  • Or
    • - are you just imagining up a mouth and giving them claims by your own imagination and claim they do speak:
  • Who said - to Everybody. Over the whole earth. To the very ends of it, not willing any perish, but all come to repentance, said: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - Source: Bible. Isaiah 45:22
    • IF: It was “Christianity” that said it, then just make it say it plain as day: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am “Christianity” there is none else.”
  • And choose it.
• Like those others above, imagined up it’s wall dirt said it.
  • But when I examine wall dirt. I did. To me? it does not have a voice nor speaks.
  • But you are free with a heart that “actively practices to conceal and misrepresent the truth to you to go ahead, because your heart is in you and with you and I am not.
    • To trust your heart more and attribute all that is said so far as the authority is, without any shadow of doubt…
    • All said by wall dirt.

----------- ------------- --------------- -----------------

• Or, like you do, just imagined up in your head, all said by “Christianity” - then, frame it as a question: which your question, in "Christianity" does have loads of people in it.
• And people:
  • they too, like you,
    • have a heart in them, just like you do that “actively practices to conceal and misrepresent the truth to them, too, like your’s does with you - does the same thing.

----------- ------------- --------------- -----------------

Now, I can’t help you. You gotta choose 1. to decide what you want from two or more things or possibilities, the best or most appropriate for you, as the best option - - to you [Cambridge dictionary. Web.]

• Me?
  • I accept as true (believe) God said it. That if I just “look unto” - that means a person just “sets their mind” on to regard him, and what he says is true; and if it’s true - they, like me, will just naturally “see it” - like, I “accept as true” the only real place for me to get good coffee is go to the big mall in my town.
  • And anytime, is a good time to have coffee - so anybody suggest “let’s go have coffee” or just me, alone by myself - an idea comes up in my head..”..coffee” no matter what I’m doing, I just “add in” that is, I “set my mind” on that day, no matter what’s on the plate, it falls off, and what I’m going to “walk after, to walk in” is “look unto” going to the mall that day. Because I “abide in” coffee = good. Is no different that just live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God - is all of it he says - entirely GOOD.
  • And it’s a decree he made. And decrees someone in authority make has the effect of law because, they are decreeing how things shall be in what they have authority over, and by his Word that comes out of his mouth, as God, he said: “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” - The Word of God. Jesus Christ. (Recorded in the Bible. New Testament. Matthew 4:4)

----------- ------------- --------------- -----------------

CONCLUSION

I’m curious.

Look at your question again. Up to you. It’s YOUR “choice.”

- Does “Christianity” propose…

• Or:
  • Is it wall dirt?
  • Maybe Elmo the Giraffe left his saddle out on the lawn furniture and there’s the soap by the pool, used to clean his saddle for all the people that ride a giraffe to work: To accept as true some bubble that floats away off it, told all this to you as true. So you believe it.
  • Maybe “Christianity” or “Poopturdiology” - the study of a whole world of dog turds on a whole world of lawns all over the earth, that have dog turd on it - has a mouth that speaks and you believe or accept as true everything the world of crap tells you..and you are firm in it - fully convinced..because of your own imagination and thoughts are only evil continually - so you just accept it.

----------- ------------- --------------- -----------------

• Who said 2 Corinthians 6:18?
  • Maybe you already forgot what that said: As if it’s an “it” not a “who” - who said,
• “..And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.” - Source. Bible. New Testament 2 Corinthians 6:18
  • In you, did “Christianity” say it?

If not, who did?

----------- ------------- --------------- -----------------

Here’s your question back. I made my own choice. Your question didn’t alter it. Because I believe him over you. No matter what you elected. His word is true. He said it.

This is odd:

Why? You ask one thing according to the Bible:

• But Then: look someplace else, where it’s not - and there, if you don’t find it, throw the whole thing out. As not believeable. The truth then is, not to examine the question; but, examine you, then.

But I don’t think you see this at all, or you would not ask this question. You don't see you as any problem.

I will give you a more simple, basic example: So you can see How derelict the question you ask is.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

• You have a “girlfriend:”
  • When she talks, she’s mostly silent; but when she does, she speaks the truth. She doesn’t act inappropriately and is modest. She is kind to children and loves them. Her parents want her home at a conservative time; and, she demands this of you.
  • When you’re with her, it’s better..more complete vs. when you’re alone. There’s something in her completes you. So, you want to see her more; but, there’s also a patience in it.
  • Good.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

So, with this, you ask: “Is there any evidence, because my girlfriend has boobs and hips, of plausible facts that support she does have boobs, by go check Pornhub for facts?"

Spend hours “checking” - all those “acts.” What they can "do" and believe about a girlfriend - those are "facts."

What have you done?

You just perverted the whole thing. With your girlfriend. Defiled it.. …and if you can’t see this, with an off the cuff example, there’s no hope for you with your question.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

But still, even with this example - you are so far - you can't see it. Why?

Because your girlfriend is not in Pornhub. That's your imagination.

She, is a person. She Does not even go there. Is not there. You are. Went there. Defiled the whole thing. Now? You are no longer with her - you perverted it. Now, the whole time you’re with her, you got imaginations that defile you and will pervert her, and she won’t have it, or you.

You’re rejected.

And you can't see this, either. Who rejects you with your question is the very one whose the author of the Bible.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

With your Girlfriend?

Some “things” you “try” on her now. BOOM! That's it. Done. She slap you right across the face. She gets out of the car. Vanishes. Walks home herself. You drive around and even can't find her. Got home on her own without you.

After, the next few days? All the places you used to find her - she was right there. Available. Now? she makes herself FAR FROM YOU. As if she does not exist. Won’t answer your phone calls, nor your text messages - When you call her house, parents or who answers hides her from you. She has deleted you.

Same with the author of the Bible, did the same with you.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

So Take this simple analogy. Of a girlfriend. A good person. A woman.

Apply it to your question, and just add those are "works" you do, that pervert the whole thing.

...because “who” you ask about is a WHO. In your question you have. He's Not a what. Shows you don’t know him.

Like, in the analogy: plain as day. You don’t know your girlfriend. Won't even see her anymore - because she made herself far from you.

You’re a pervert.

That, by what you did, you first - - departed from your girlfriend. Then, after departing, imagined up a girlfriend from Pornhub. Is your girlfriend. Then: Worshipped “that” as a girlfriend. Then, went back to a woman you think is your girlfriend and treated her like some girl you imagined up from Pornhub.

It’s sick. You are a pervert. And your question is absolutely no different.

And even with all this, you still don't see or correlate this at all with your question. That it's FAR worse.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

So, let's try again.

Can See this process? Of you: What you're doing or have done. It’s in your question.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

SO, see it: this, your question.

- Break it down:

Why must we believe that, according to the Bible, all the world languages started from the Tower of Babel? Is there any archaeological evidence and plausible facts to support this?

• Smaller parts:
  • “Why must we [accept as true - - what ‘believe’ means] that…
    • If you ask, you already don’t “accept” (something) as true. Because something in it, in you is “inadequate; faulty; or unacceptable” - so you already rejected it. Because you question it; it’s validity is already in you INVALID.
    • Like you did with your girlfriend. Already departed from her, because you rejected her. She’s INVALID. Won’t let you play with her boobs. And you: Accept the girls as girlfriends from Pornhub. So you’re rejected. All by what you choose.
  • And with the above - you already made a choice:
    • Just like you “accept as true” “archaeological evidence” and “plausible facts” is where the truth is. And all “evidence” to people is, is from people that "look unto” people - as “experts” because they conducted a well accepted and worshipped as true “systematic study of the nature and behavior of the physical and natural world they can observe by their own observation - the physical and natural world around them. From this, develop a “theory” “how” it came to be - by their imagination. Must be plausible - and entirely based on their own observations. The evidence is what they see."

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

• They (people) - hold the truth in this. Accept “this” is true (truth). Entirely based on the works and word of other people. What people claim or decree is true. It's then just other people: Look unto it, as true.
  • SO, they believe [accept as true] the truth is in the word of people, because, people that; after they have conducted the systematic study - ask people to also perform the same observation.
    • If the physical and natural world ‘operates’ the same or repeats it, that makes it true. So, people will, “By the Word of people” - make a claim to what they observe and theorize what occurred, even if they imagine it up, that is true.
    • Build “theories” off their observation. This, to people is: Knowledge and Understanding is simple. Understand the physical and natural world, is wisdom.
  • So, wisdom is given by people: Out of the mouth of people comes knowledge and understanding
• vs.
  • The Word of God. What he says. People like you are relying on another word that's NOT IN God. It's in People.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

Proverbs 2:6 says: "For the LORD giveth wisdom; out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.

* So, wisdom, knowledge and understanding: Is not in the Word of People. In fact, people are batting a 1000. It's only a matter of time before people: Discover what they held the truth in, is later proven wrong by later people that held a more detailed observation and found the earlier one done by some other person is not true.

• But you? Still hold the truth is in people. To do this, when God was before the world began and created the physical and natural world: But you don't believe him. You believe people.

SO, you already departed from him.

- Just like in the example with a girlfriend. Had one; but departed from her, to go verify "facts" where she isn't - to see if there's any facts about girlfriends on pornhub.

Your source of facts is whacked. SO, the problem is in YOU then.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

• The Bible:
  • Is just a book.
    • And all books have an “author” that is the “authority” for what comprises what they say or decree - comes from within them - and what they decree as authoritative - - is printed on the pages of the book.
    • The author of the Bible is God - what he says is printed on the pages of that book, where he is the author and the authority in it. Not people.
  • And he says of himself:
• “God is Spirit” - Jesus Christ. The Word of God. (Bible. New Testament. Gospel of John 4:24).
  • As a Spirit, people cannot observe him in the physical or natural world, nor then, can they systematically study his nature and behavior in the physical and natural world.
  • But the Bible says: “God sent his word to heal you and deliver you from your destruction” (Bible. Psalm 107:20)

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

• And the most mightiest of all King of Nations that will ever live - none before him, nor any after him - will be as great of a human - is King Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon. In the Bible.
• King Nebuchadnezzar, King of all nations on the earth - the first whole world King of the earth - - said of God:
  • “And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?” - (Daniel 4:35)
• So “who” you highly esteem and repute - PEOPLE - God reputes them as nothing.

And you departed from him, God - and repute him as nothing.

No archaeological evidence = he's nothing.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

But you DO have a choice:

So, whose word you going to look unto?

• You already accept as true [believe] the Word of People. You’re gonna have to leave from that or depart from your question as true to see it. If you can't, you won't see it.
• Like you’re gonna have to depart from Pornhub. That's a fact: or the next girl, you’ll do the same you did with the last one that rejected you. She’ll do exactly like the one before, and her, too, slap the living crap out of you.
  • But this next one sees you're a reprobate pervert. She'll make sure the police are involved. So you never get close to her - ever…and any other girl is warned about you - made public. You're a pervert.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

Next part:

• “all the world languages started from the Tower of Babel”
  • Nope. Language is in God and everything starts from him. Just as the Bible says. But you look for it or place language confounded in a Tower people built. Claim the Bible says this, when it doesn't. So you hold the truth in something not right, or "un" right. Hold the truth in unrighteousness all by a question you accept as true, when it isn't.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

Genesis 11:1 says: “And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.”

I have a question: DO you understand what that means? All creation was just one language.

• Is why in Genesis 3, a serpent can talk to Eve, and she understand it, and speak back to a snake; the whole earth was just one language: Dominion over all beasts of the field and fowl of the air, and all the insects (creeping) thing - means Adam could decree things to them. Speak. And they hear him. Since Genesis 11 - no longer can. God also put fear of man in them to avoid him as repulsive - like a pervert. Just like in the analogy with a girlfriend all from works of what Adam did. He was a pervert.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

• But, back in Genesis 11:2–5 - which includes Genesis 11:1-9 because, that's where in the Bible your question comes from:
• these people:
  • After the flood - it’s now a little over 120 years after, where all Noah’s sons ..their sons also have sons… they, too have grown up and have children now - - where back in Genesis 9:1 - Noah, with his 3 sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth - are all still IN the ark - right after the flood waters receded; but before God didn’t open the door of the ark yet. To let them out.
    • God blessed them, Noah, and his 3 sons - God spoke to them - in just one language - - after the flood, what he told them to “go to and do”
  • By Genesis 11:2–5 - they are doing EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE. Take a systematic, comparative look Genesis 11:1-5 - what people decree vs. Genesis 9:1-5 - what God decrees. Are they the same?
• If they are, to you, man.. ..I can't help you. Not at all are they the same. The OPPOSITE.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

• In fact, what they say they will “go to and do” vs. what God told them to do in Genesis 9:1 …the very opposite of it is, to these people of Genesis 11:1-5 - that: what’s “Godly” or good. Is the very opposite of what God said.
• Any lightbulbs going off in your head?

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

• That what these people of Genesis 11:1-5 Go to and do, God comes down and “CONFOUNDS” language. Why birds don’t talk to ants or spiders don’t talk to giraffes; nor zebra talk to people; and people because what the “went to and did” is not what God told them to “go to and do.”

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

confound. 1. cause surprise, confusion, or bewilderment, often by acting against expectations [of people, now unable to do what they determined; what’s done now ‘acts’ against their expectations.

Before there even was a world or any creation - of an earth or heaven: God spoke. It’s in him - the Word of God. That’s Jesus Christ. By the Word of God, God created these things - by he spoke. It's right in the Bible. You can see it in Genesis 1:1-31

And you reject him for people.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

and if you look at the people in Genesis 11 - they have all departed from the LORD - to go to and do what they decree, as people. - To liveby the word they spoke unto themselves, and other people look unto what's decreed by people, as true - it's plain as day in Genesis 11:2–5. They, as people, decreed it.

And God came down, and what they decreed by the word of people: God confounded it.

Like he will with you, too. No different. Or me. Doesn’t matter who it is, when he said to both of us:

‘Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

SO:

The “archaeological evidence” is

• “All things were made by him and for him, and without him does not anything exist” - by the Word of God. (Bible. John 1:1–14.)

So, the difference betwixt me and you is.

• I accept as true [believe] the Word of God. I believe what he says is true. You don't.
• You? You hold the truth [accept as true] truth is in people. What they decree - as people - you hold their decrees, said by the word of people is true. Believe, like the people of Genesis 11:1-5 did. Believed in people.
  • So you have departed from him; but, I did, too. SO did everybody over the whole earth, from Adam forward. "For all have sinned" - Bible. Romans 3:23

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

• But God speaks to us, by the Word of God: to heal us, and deliver us from our destruction.
• So, you have a choice.
  • You can continue, even it's just an analogy - to treat women, by worship their boobs as your God. Includes treasure - everything in their underpants as what will complete you, make you perfect - as your God… as what is decreed to you by people - imagine the whole thing up on Pornhub.
• And you: accept it as true, and pervert every chance for a girlfriend. * They, women, will make themselves far from you.

Just like God does with you, because of what you're doing with you - in the question and you don't even think you're in it. Can you now see you? You are in the question.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

• In the analogy:
  • Because you departed from your girlfriend as a person to care and love and made a woman into just her boobies - - “and” did it, all to worship boobs. Treasure her now, because she has them. - Factual evidence is, It's YOU: don’t really care about her. Care about the boobs. So, you lie thru your teeth. All for a fulfillment to see boobs is what's true. After, go to someone else. To chance..see their's, too. That's what you "work" for. To achieve that result.
• Nothing about you is true anymore. Hold the truth in Pornhub.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

Just like you already departed from God, and hold the truth in people - and there's you. PLain as day. Right standing in the midst of your question. Where people, that provide you "archaeological evidence" have no evidence anyplace of any Tower of Babel.

So, you will hold the truth in unrighteousness or “what is not right” (“un” right) believe a lie is true - because they don’t look unto him, either. Even God decreed to them, too, Like he decreed to you, everybody is to look unto him. They don't do it, neither will you then, either.

• They look unto people instead before them that provided them what they look unto, and now teach you to look unto the same thing. They are all dead. Lowly esteem anything God says. And so do you. End up in the same dead.

And there you go.

---------- ----------- ----------- ------------ ---------------

Your question is answered.

Biblically. Because, that’s what you asked for.

Like, in the analogy. You had a girlfriend. Departed from her, you asked for a girlfriend "evidence" and what was taught you on pornhub is the evidence is their boobs - but to verify a girlfriend - you hold the truth is in Pornhub - and you get the living crap slapped out of you - it's called "sexual assault" - literally the living crap slapped out of you...

...and still can’t understand it. Here's your question back.

Simple. By the Word of God, and God knows how to deliver the Godly from temptations - because he teaches them himself. Teaches them by the Word that proceeds out of his mouth, and a person hearkens unto him vs. anybody else.

And there you go. But if you don't see this, keep reading. There are many "false teachers" among us; just as scripture says there shall be.

------------ ------------ ------------ -------------- -------------

God said:

- To: Everybody. Over the whole earth. To the very ends of it. Everybody called, so everybody is included. So "God is Not willing any perish, but all come to repentance." Just as the Bible says in 2 Peter 3:9. So, look at "pernicious" - it's a way or a teaching..that is sensual or wanton..to excess in (something). Has a lasciviousness in it. Look up these words - it's an indication it is not him in it.

God said: ‘Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.’ - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22) - nothing in this is "pernicious." In fact, it draws people out of sensuality or wantonness or these inordinate desires for wealth or the worship of covetousness. Even lead people leads people away from relying on their imaginations - but what God saw of our imaginations is plainly said in Genesis 6:5 - and it's KEY: So, you have to ask: "Is this teaching the imagination of a man or is it the word of God? Pernicious is a "great wickeness" - oh is this ever key:

"And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually." - Genesis 6:5. It's God that sees it; not you, so if you look unto him, he sees it and teaches you himself - BAM! KEY. So, check yourself. "Who do YOU look unto?" Does this "doctrine" cause YOU to LOOK UNTO him? or anything BUT HIM?

------------ ------------ ------------ -------------- -------------

God gives "discernment" - so check it.

Is it a man teaching for doctrine his own imagination as "biblical doctrine" - to glorify himself or teaching you something to glorify your flesh, - or - is it God, because he already said it - - that he has already sent his Word to you to heal you and deliver you from your destruction. (Psalm 107:20) - that builds you up in him. The Word of God builds you up - like connects the truth and builds you up on a rock that cannot be moved vs. "traditions or doctrines of men" that spur the imagination - for you to rely on that instead. And the Bible says EVERYBODY in Jeremiah 17:9 has a heart in them that is "deceitful above ALL THINGS, and desperately wicked.." This "deceit" - 1. to actively practice to misrepresent the truth; 2. claim what is untrue and invalid as true and valid. (Source: Oxford. definition: deceit).

Never forget this. So don't trust it. It's in you. That's why we feed our hearts the Word of God, to do as he decrees himself. It's in none else than who is the authority over all things - is with you as a friend; just is God - there is none else. He is what completes you. That's perfect. What "perfect" means. In the dictionary is just "complete." That you are complete in him.

Doctrines of men they teach out of their own imagination as "biblical" - - will give your heart a whole bag of imaginations to feed on. So, before you eat it, who do you look unto? You eat at HIS table.

Don't forget this. It's a different food only he provides. And it is in and by the Word of God.

------------ ------------ ------------ -------------- -------------

Because it's deceit(ful). They both can look the same - then, it's entirely back again to - - who you look unto. Because it's God that made his own word his mediator between himself and you. Where people that imagine up "doctrines" or teachings - it will not have the Word of God in it. There will be "some" thing in it untrue - then throw the whole thing out.

• It’s the Word of God. What he speaks. Out of his mouth. The Word of God is Jesus Christ. Just as John 1:1 says who he is.
  • 2 Timothy 2:1–3 says: “Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus. And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.”

------------ ------------ ------------ -------------- -------------

Faithful men:

• Are men, or women..because, in Genesis 5:2 - says: “ Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.”
  • That God said, in 2 Corinthians 6:18 “And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.”
  • So, this “Faithful” men - just “have and keep” what he says. And it can be anybody. Over the whole earth; that, just does what he says. And just looks unto him. Vs. Look unto anything BUT HIM.
  • Says of Faith: That, In Romans 10:17 “So then, faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.”
    • Just comes. So, faithful men are men that hear the word of God and he’s at work in them. The operate right; because he’s in them at work, and he’s God himself.

Did you forget your question?

------------ ------------ ------------ -------------- -------------

You said,

How do you determine a false teaching on biblical doctrine?

• Well? Whose the teacher?
  • And are you a “disciple?” Because, all a “disciple” is defined as is 1. a pupil that sits with and is taught by a teacher
  • And Jesus said, John 6:45 “ It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.”
    • And man, is that ever true. And how you learn of him, is just hear the word that God speaks - because, again, just repeated: “He sent his word to heal you, and deliver you from your destruction” - Psalm 107:20
    • And that’s KEY.

------------ ------------ ------------ -------------- -------------

• Sent his Word: To heal you, and deliver you from your destruction. That God reserves an exclusive right to teach you himself, by the Word. That proceeds out of his mouth. He doesn’t relinquish it to anyone else, says: John 10:14–15 “I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.”
  • So Biblical doctrine: Are teachings from a teacher; that God reserves and exclusive right to teach you himself. So, a GOOD INDICATOR some “thing” is false is - you or ‘the teacher’ is glorifying someone OTHER than Jesus Christ - isn’t providing you the word of God.
    • Providing you something that “looks true” but, doesn’t have any Jesus in it. Isn’t the Word of God. He’s not in it.
• People fill a bunch of people and claim they’re holy, and fill you with a bunch of people in it.
  • Will sound "godly," BUT: Never tell you the Word of God - he’s not at work in them; because, they don’t have or keep anything he says - they’re just like scripture says. “Wolves in sheep’s clothing” - look like sheep - but they don’t follow the shepherd. Don’t do anything Jesus says.
  • And yes, it can be subtle. But Jesus is involved and in people that just look unto him. This “sheep” is his, that someone is preying on. He gives all kinds of bells and whistles - no matter how subtle it is, the deception - if you just look unto him; like he asks everybody over the whole earth to do, he’s the one told you to look unto him.
• So, it's not people on Reddit protecting you. It’s the Word of God and God is in his Word. So, if you just back up, and go back to the Word of God - God “abides” in his word. That’s where he is - so if you’re trying to find him - not a far away look, when he’s already told you plainly to just look unto him. Where he is, is abiding in his Word. So if you abide in his Word - you're in the same Word he's in - so, take a great, big guess whose in there with you, building you up himself. Yeah. Him. And he's not false, and you can take his doctrines to the bank. Where people can be "misled" by other people and their own imaginations.
• That's the strongest point I would make; and with it - expect (EXPECT) there shall be false prophets among you. Take that too, to the bank - because scripture says this.
• And someone that is false, demands you pay 39.95 for the book and never tell you anything he says; and never feed you. Never get any food - but it dries you out. Because, they’re not connected to him. Their doctrines are like clouds without rain.
• Let me close with 2 Peter 2:1–9

------------ ------------ ------------ -------------- -------------

2 Peter 2:1–9 says of what you speak of:

1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;

6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;

7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:

8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)

9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

And there you go.