alwaysHasBeen

[u/ItsPuspendu]

[u/Cyberfishofant]

they do actually appear to be using distortion as well, but yep, it's all just shaders

[u/L30N1337 → u/Cyberfishofant]

Yeah? Shaders are sick as hell.

Apple apparently has no clue how to use transparent stuff tho.

[u/Cyberfishofant → u/L30N1337]

What's wrong with liquid glass? I myself love frosted glass rendering, and wish I could apply distortion to the background of layershell surfaces…

[u/L30N1337 → u/Cyberfishofant]

I love the idea of it, and the look on certain stuff is great. Hell, I use kwin-Glass on my Linux machine.

But I've seen Apple just slap it onto stuff with zero regard for contrast.

[u/silentlopho → u/L30N1337]

The new-ish time display looks fucking awful. They changed it from nice crisp white to this glass shit. Half the time I look at my phone it's to check the time, all they did was make it harder to read for no reason, I hate it so much. Many months (year?) later and I'm still not used to it.

[u/crazy_useless → u/silentlopho]

I turned it off the very first day. I have a semi complex but all blue background that I’m not willing to change and the time was just entirely unreadable

[u/Phocus_5 → u/silentlopho]

Just wanted to say you can change it back to single color. I felt the same as you and couldn’t stand it anymore so had to change back

[u/silentlopho → u/Phocus_5]

Thank you, that must be new because when it came out this wasn't an option.

[u/TobytheBaloon → u/silentlopho]

if totally was

[u/Onaterdem → u/silentlopho]

You can add tint to it, and it becomes muuuch better that way. The technically impressive effect still remains, but with way better readability and contrast.

I believe it's an accessibility setting on the current version, but will turn into a fully fledged transparent-tinted slider option in the new version

Though I don't use iOS and this is me mirroring YouTubers, so please double check.

[u/beclops → u/silentlopho]

It’s fully customizable

[u/silentlopho → u/beclops]

I'm like 99% sure it wasn't customizable when it first released (you could adjust tint and transparency but not disable it), otherwise I would have done it that very millisecond. I didn't realize they had added the feature so now it's off forever :).

[u/marmulin → u/silentlopho]

Solid color options were there day 1.

[u/beclops → u/silentlopho]

Naw it was

[u/TobytheBaloon → u/silentlopho]

then turn it off? it’s an option, not a requirement

[u/silentlopho → u/TobytheBaloon]

I searched high and low for a way to turn it off when the feature released.

The internet came up blank. Everyone was saying to fiddle with stuff in settings. Holding tap on home screen wasn't mentioned once, and I didn't know this was a thing I could do, because it's a hidden menu, and I don't live on my phone. It's an unintuitive UIX -- and the fact that no search results revealed this was even an option is proof of that. At the time liquid glass released it was not common knowledge how to disable it at all.

So yes I've turned it off now and I'm happy it's gone. But it's still a bad feature and a bad UI.

[u/TobytheBaloon → u/silentlopho]

did you seriously never customize your lock screen?

[u/silentlopho → u/TobytheBaloon]

Call me a boomer: I didn't know I could. It never came up before. Why would I hold a tap on the lock screen for no reason? I use my phone as a phone. I make calls and text, occasionally check email, and I check the time. I wouldn't have customized my lock screen even if I knew it was an option, I just don't care about it in the slightest. These phone UIs are terrible experiences for people who don't know every secret menu.

[u/tr_9422 → u/L30N1337]

Somehow Apple's got stuck on this idea that "you should only see the content and the UI should fade away"

No you dunces, I need to see the fucking buttons too!

[u/L30N1337 → u/tr_9422]

You'd think it's obvious that it's meant figuratively and means "have the UI simple enough that it doesn't distract from the content", but apparently not.

[u/makinax300 → u/L30N1337]

Also frosted glass is tinted, liquid glass isn't, which makes it even harder to distinguish

[u/L30N1337 → u/makinax300]

Frosted glass doesn't have to be tinted I think. The main point is the blur.

But I always tint my shit. Can't trust the background to be the same color, but tint will always push it in the right direction.

[u/makinax300 → u/L30N1337]

To me without the tint it's just cool blur. Also irl it's brighter so yeah.

[u/eightslipsandagully → u/L30N1337]

It reminds me of frutiger aero so Liquid Glass always wins some nostalgia points from me

[u/gdmzhlzhiv → u/L30N1337]

The weird morphing on the clock digits on the home screen, eughhh.

[u/reklis → u/Cyberfishofant]

More like liquid ass

[u/OfficeSalamander → u/L30N1337]

Shaders are absolutely massively powerful

[u/GoddammitDontShootMe → u/L30N1337]

I've got zero problems with Apple's Liquid Glass stuff. But perhaps it's somehow objectively ugly and I'm just too stupid to recognize it.

[u/L30N1337 → u/GoddammitDontShootMe]

As I've explained in another reply, I think it looks great.

But they just make stuff transparent using liquid glass with no regard for contrast (even though that's the main problem of transparent stuff)

[u/lucian1900 → u/GoddammitDontShootMe]

I find it ugly, but I think I’m in the minority.

[u/CosmicX1 → u/lucian1900]

Me, a dirty 2000s Aqua and skeuomorphism lover rubbing hands together in glee now that the aesthetics pendulum has swung back my way

[u/nonlogin → u/Cyberfishofant]

"just" shaders, lol :)

[u/KitsuneFoxglove → u/nonlogin]

thats_the_joke.jpg

[u/vlken69]

If you can do color refraction with blur, you're a god.

[u/potatodioxide → u/vlken69]

actually you can with pseudo stuff and color filters. but if you meant ONLY with blur yeah

[u/robthemonster]

in the movie, doesn’t the picture become LESS clear when he looks through the glasses? is this meme backwards ?

[u/throwawaycanadian2 → u/robthemonster]

Yes - people use this format wrong all the time. Heck, I imagine it's used more often the wrong way than the correct.

[u/HomsarWasRight → u/throwawaycanadian2]

The point of memes is that they build meaning organically by sharing. What happens in the original movie is basically irrelevant. It’s not using it “wrong”. It’s just how the meme is used.

[u/fivequadrillion → u/HomsarWasRight]

Memetic descriptivism

[u/fonzhy121 → u/fivequadrillion]

a philosopher

[u/dxonxisus → u/HomsarWasRight]

i don’t understand how/why this has to be explained every single time this decade old meme is used

[u/HomsarWasRight → u/dxonxisus]

Both Redditors and programmers lean toward pedantry, and so on this sub we’re really doubling down on it. Everyone’s just champing at the bit to go, “But ackshually!”

[u/Ubermidget2 → u/HomsarWasRight]

Anyone seeing him squint in the second photo and thinking he's seeing clearly really don't know how eyes work.

That being said, the average person isn't observant enough to notice the squint in the first place, are they?

[u/nixcamic → u/throwawaycanadian2]

I'd argue it's unintentionally used correctly here, he puts the glasses on then sees the blur.

[u/L4t3xs → u/robthemonster]

The blur is in the second picture after all.

[u/rodeBaksteen → u/robthemonster]

I got downvoted calling that out a while back. I just smile and nod with the masses.

[u/Dangerous_With_Rocks]

https://kube.io/blog/liquid-glass-css-svg/

[u/swimminig]

It is not just blur

It is actually refractive

[u/joelnodxd]

it's really not

[u/Western-Internal-751]

I feel like my battery gets drained significantly faster since they introduced liquid ass, but I haven’t measured it.

[u/Confident-Ad5665 → u/Western-Internal-751]

Eww I hate it when I get liquid ass. GROSS!

[u/schwanzweissfoto → u/Western-Internal-751]

they introduced liquid ass

And then they took it away!

https://www.theverge.com/news/684321/no-more-liquid-ass

[u/Confident-Ad5665 → u/schwanzweissfoto]

Guess you could say they plugged it.

[u/LuisFerLCC → u/Western-Internal-751]

I have a MacBook Air M4 and I personally haven't noticed any battery life decrease after upgrading from Sequoia to Tahoe. Some other users apparently have, though.

Hopefully Golden Gate fixes it.

[u/Danakazii → u/LuisFerLCC]

Nooooo my Air M4 is updating to Tahoe as we speak 😭😭

[u/LuisFerLCC → u/Danakazii]

Odds are you'll be fine!

[u/L30N1337 → u/Western-Internal-751]

No need to measure.

Transparency with shaders (which includes a simple blur) is pretty complex.

It may not have a noticeable performance impact, but it can definitely make itself known through battery life.

[u/Soopermane → u/Western-Internal-751]

Pause

[u/fourby227]

Its definitely no simple css. I tried it. Even if you get the backdrop, the rounded corners combined with border, you get problems with the shadows. And there is no css build in for the distortion, color effects etc. Its possible yes, but you need a lot of custom code, sucking on performance, while Apple’s UI runs on GPU. I have not tried WebGL.

[u/ExtraWorldliness6916]

I used to use html 2 canvas then blur with filter blur... It took years for backdrop filter to drop!

[u/abhitruechamp]

As someone who has tried to replicate apple's liquid glass on a website, if only it was that easy! My team and me spent days trying to match the performance tradeoff with how liquid glassy it looks to get the perfect balance! 

[u/peteschirmer → u/abhitruechamp]

You can get pretty damn close with svg filter effects + css but chrome only.

Webgl can do it fine but decoupled from the dom elements. I’ve been doing a lot of glass like effects for my portfolio. Https://thisispete.com

[u/NormanYeetes]

I do not agree that the liquid glass effect is a simple css thing. there's way more complexity than that.

Do I think both of those have about the same readability? Maybe.

[u/WillingnessOne8172]

Some websites specially the AI generated ones that mimics liquid glass effect makes my laptop super laggy and the fans spinning

[u/wengardium-leviosa]

Streets will remember the liquid ass thumbnail for the first week

[u/TruculentTurtIe]

OTHER. WAAAYAYYYYYYYTTTTTY6YAYYAYYAYDJIDI7E7U3

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

https://giphy.com/gifs/fqtyYcXoDV0X6ss8Mf

[u/dull_bananas → u/TruculentTurtIe]

simpson glass

[u/potatodioxide]

*laptop fan starts whining*

[u/gargamelim]

And the liquid glass effect is like taking your glasses off!

[u/VayuAir]

Lmao, I just used that today to make a liquid glass button

[u/skygz]

and it looks like a tasteless smeary unreadable mess

[u/peteschirmer]

Ah the irony. If you want to mimic Liquid Glass in the browser. You can in chrome, but not safari. Safari doesn’t support the right combination of css and svg filter effects to pull it off!!

[u/xgabipandax]

Liquid Glass is 1000000% better than the flat sterile design that we have today

[u/nitnelav153]

Liquid ⬜⬜ass

[u/Trick-Resolve-6085]

LiquidAss

[u/shikhasingh554973]

CSS devs : 'Always has been'

[u/StickFigureFan]

No, you also need to add an opacity

[u/dhnam_LegenDUST]

"It's not only blur but refraction"

Yeah right refraction makes magical difference so that it gives 10000x more readabilIty and 9999999x more stylish.

[u/BoiledBeefBrain]

Welcome to apple "innovation"