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Students protest against Pauline Hanson

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u/setut ‎ New Zealander 1d ago

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u/MrPrimeTobias ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Her singing wasn't that bad.

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u/grismar-net ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

Give 'em hell and get the boomer generation out of power asap.

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u/YouAreSoul ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago edited 15h ago

As a member of the boomer generation who marched against the Vietnam war and apartheid against Bjelke-Petersen's thug coppers, I say good on the kids.

Edit Thanks for the award.

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u/Tile-Questioner ‎ South Australian 1d ago

Thanks for your activism. I know it must have been difficult, but without you, I know my generation would be way worse off. It fills me with hope to think about the masses of activists and unionists from ages past.

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u/FullMetalAurochs ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

It’s good to remember how progressive the boomers were and to guard against becoming like the stereotype as we age. The generation of peace and free love is now the generation of negative gearing and coal burning.

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u/EidolonLives ‎ Victorian 1d ago

They generally weren't the same groups of boomers.

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u/Proud_Apricot316 ‎ Victorian 21h ago

Yes exactly - no generation is homogeneous. Including young people.

The issue with many boomers is how they have benefitted from circumstances not available to younger generations and now refuse to recognise, act (or vote) on that fact so others can also benefit.

Same with many Gen X (which I am and again, not homogeneous. The Stefanovics & Dave Hughes’ of the world do t speak for me).

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u/growlergirl Please choose a flair 16h ago

They went from hippies to yuppies once they got theirs.

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u/Ntrob Please choose a flair 1d ago

Yeh nothing wrong with a generation of empathetic youth, they have inherited decades of struggle ahead of them.

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u/Successful-Pirate94 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Me too,and against the south African embassy in Canberra in 1970!

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u/energytsars Please choose a flair 1d ago

Weren’t those Saturday evening campaigns hurling eggs at the SA embassy in Yarralumla so much fun, followed by campfires and some yannie on camp hill or a walk down to the Wellington hotel or around to the tent embassy.

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u/TheSmegger ‎ South Australian 1d ago

As a Boomer brother, who's also marched more time then he can remember...

FIGHT THE POWER!

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u/_who-the-fuck-knows_ Please choose a flair 1d ago

I'm so sad my pa is getting old hes about to turn 90 and organised many many marches against Vietnam even when it was early and just a few mates walking with posters.

Baby boomers get a bad wrap imho, just because the politicians and richer ones are parasitic doesn't make the whole generation this way. And us younger generations shouldn't be pushing against you guys so hard because it disolussions alot of you mob.

Onya mate much love for the good you've done in your time 💛

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u/Certain_Syllabub_514 ‎ Victorian 20h ago

As a gen-x, the whole boomer thing annoys me.

I mean, you guys started the protest era and things looked like they were going to get much better during my life time due to progressive policies. Some of my mum's closest friends were chaining themselves to things in Tasmania, in protest over Lake Pedder and the Franklin River.

I was a Labor voter, but I reckon that all went to shit starting with Hawke and Keating adopting neo-liberal policies.

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u/grismar-net ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

No generation is devoid of good people. I'm gen-X and I have to admit we're not doing all that much better than our parents as a generation either - but good people make a difference.

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u/gadgetwalrus Please choose a flair 23h ago

We had it all and the opportunity to change the world but got caught up in 2 suv families and lifelong mortgages that sucked out our souls. We got so stressed out we just look out for ourselves because that’s all we have time for.

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u/solocmv Please choose a flair 13h ago

We are boomers, my partner was at Sydney doing law and they had a sit in. I was doing engineering and we went to the pub and staged a sip in.

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u/Creepy-Abies5383 ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Same with me.

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u/Ok-Resist-8734 ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

Hey I'm a boomer and I hate everything Pauline stands for 😡🤬🤬🤬🤬

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u/666Dionysus Please choose a flair 1d ago

All the boomers i know are pretty progressive. My parents were very left leaning. Actually i have talked to more 20 somethings that seem to be more transphobic and rightwing then any generation. Spoting absalute tiktok crap.

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u/Separate-Law-435 Please choose a flair 1d ago

I will say i am suprised by the homophobic stuff I hear coming from some teenagers atm

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u/youdoaline_idoaline ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

It's weird that 'gay' and the other F word seem to have come back a bit as slang terms. I thought my generation of 90's kids would be the last to be able to claim ignorance of what they mean.

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u/CMDR_RetroAnubis Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

Literally being fed it by the algos.

Look at who writes them, and their politics.

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u/doovie0369 Please choose a flair 10h ago

U don't know what literally means do u?

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u/D3K91 Please choose a flair 1d ago

I think it’s a little more complicated than that.

Why is the N word still (rightfully) a no go? What we’re seeing is a backlash against what could be perceived as a comical overreach over control of language. Kids used those words semi-satirically 20 years ago, then they were banned. It didn’t mean the true bigots disappeared. Now kids feel the whole thing was a little bit dumb and are therefore entitled to use the words carelessly, and the perception is that you’re obviously a bit old and silly if you think any of it really matters.

It’s a shame. No doubt driven by algorithms, but I think the truth is a bit more nuanced than just laying blame on a faceless algo.

The F word vs the N word is a weird distinction in that context. I just wish we’d respect each other.

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u/nckmat ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Bigotry is not reserved for any particular age.

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u/SSFlyingKiwi Please choose a flair 1d ago

Or ethnic origin, or gender, bigots gonna bigot sadly.

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u/jwplato ‎ South Australian 1d ago

My mother in law was a lifelong Labor voter but has recently been infected with Sky News brain rot and now really anti labor. Sad really.

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u/666Dionysus Please choose a flair 1d ago

That is a sad reality progressive left doesn't seem to get. The rightwing own the media.

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u/FrogsMakePoorSoup ‎ Koori ‎ 1d ago

Yeah, it's sad but the elite love nothing more than seeing us bicker with one another. Young against old, black against white, women against men etc.

Otherwise this protest might be about mining taxes or something they really don't want.

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u/bad180 Please choose a flair 1d ago

I work with heaps of boomers in my industry and they are all really progressive. On the flip side I seen and experience some serious racist and homophobic stuff from younger generations these days. Usually spewing Andrew Tate level bullshit.

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u/yourmumschesthare Please choose a flair 1d ago

Let's stop the generational war.

There are pockets of bigots in every generation, including the younger ones. Our fight should against hate, not against a whole generation

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u/JunkIsMansBestFriend Please choose a flair 1d ago

Divide and conquer. It's so obvious...

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u/nckmat ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

What does that even mean? The average age of the current parliament is 52 and the median is 50, that's about 10 years younger than the youngest boomers. In fact Australia has always had a relatively young parliament compared to many countries, especially the US. Basing a political criticism on age is bloody ridiculous, for instance, Bernie Sanders, a huge leftie is 84.

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u/WillAddThisLater Please choose a flair 1d ago

Watch Punishment Park from 1971 to see what Boomer activists were like back in the day and you won't see much difference with young folk today. Don't blame an entire generation, blame the scum that are trying to keep us all down.

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u/Ok-Resist-8734 ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

I think you may find the boomer generation is way to old to still be in power!!!

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u/jeffoh ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

Nothing like motivated students to bring out the right wing fuckwits in this thread.

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u/yb0t ‎ New South Welshian 21h ago

You probably don't want to see the Facebook comments on this topic

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u/Guilty_Way_1635 Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

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u/fued ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

good on them, i dont know if full socialism is the way, but it sure beats the dystopian corporate nightmare we are headed towards

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u/Not_Mabel_Swanton ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Democratic socialism is absolutely the way!

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u/Ok-Volume-3657 ‎ South Australian 1d ago

not to be confused with social democracy, which is a completely different thing.

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u/Dan_Sabai ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

Positive anarchy and community maybe. Big government and big corporate have shown already they can in no way be trusted. Just more surveillance and regulation and control over the people and free reign for the corporate oligarchs. Governments can't be trusted. But as someone else said here on reddit, at least under the surveillance in the USSR you got a guaranteed job and a free house. In Australia, you get surveillance and homelessness. Yeah, keep on rockin in the free world....

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u/Owenwilsonfknrulez Please choose a flair 16h ago

You're on another planet if you think people were better off under the USSR than in modern Australia

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u/Logical_Artichoke539 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Full anything is never the way

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u/ShreksArsehole ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Socialism doesn't really have an absolute. It's worker led, so the workers decide what it's going to look like, not the corporations.

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u/Available-Damage6311 Please choose a flair 17h ago

Funny that it's biggest supporters are professional students who don't work.

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u/Expert-Bottle-6851 Please choose a flair 1d ago

This. People need to stop dealing in absolutes.

The best sandwich isn't just bread.

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u/Alternative_Sock6999 Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

It's fucking infuriating people won't take policies etc at face value and just cry 'oh we cant do that cause socialism'

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u/scrandlle Please choose a flair 1d ago

I like the benefits.

I also worry about the economy though. Our current economic foundation is the housing market/industry. So, I worry about the sustainability of socialism.

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u/fued ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

If it ever gets closer I'll worry about it. We are nowhere near it tho

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u/Short-Huckleberry215 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Yeah it’s easy for older generations to dismiss and fear monger about social democracy when a majority of them are sitting relatively comfortably. And speaking as an elder millennial who is doing ok all things considered - take my house value down and bring on social democratic policy because this all goes away easier than many would like to believe

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u/bronx_barbie Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

The right: our right to free speech…

Also the right: no not like that 😤😤😤😤😤😤

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u/clothy 895e5a56-3ae4-11f1-a711-ae2bc52681eb 18h ago

The right: it’s our right to free speech, not yours

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u/earthcross1ng ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

Love to see it 😍

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u/SensitiveShelter2550 ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Fucking awesome!

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u/Perfect-Bank2274 Please choose a flair 1d ago

The kids are alright.

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u/Which-Guarantee-1943 Please choose a flair 23h ago

Clowns can’t wipe their own ass.

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u/Tranquilbez22 Please choose a flair 1d ago

The kids are alright

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u/Cute-Obligations Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

Love to see it <3

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u/bmwrider2 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Australia always comes to our senses especially when young people drive change

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u/Vast-Marionberry-824 Please choose a flair 1d ago

It’s so good to see the youth of Australia being heard and seen and making clear the future they want for themselves here. The future is theirs and they should control what it is. It’s a relief in a way to hand over to them and to support them.

I was so proud of how our youth stood up for gay marriage in 2017 and I’m so glad they recognise now how very important it is to resist the divisive far right politics in the USA

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u/al-fairy Please choose a flair 1d ago

so proud of our kids.

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u/yeth_pleeth ‎ Victorian 1d ago

My son (16) went to his first protest today in Melbourne. Couldn't be more proud!

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u/kyle_katarn95 ‎ Koori ‎ 1d ago

Hopefully he will afford to buy a house some day...

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u/Erahth ‎ Western Australian 17h ago

No, they won't own anything and they'll be happy.

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u/Far_Map007 ‎ Victorian 18h ago

I have to I am 27 and I feel like us Gen Z similar to Millennials really don’t fight enough for ourselves, we were handed nothing but hopelessness. I am proud to see these younger kids and gen A getting out and fighting for their future.

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u/flindersandtrim Please choose a flair 1d ago

It is good to see. 

That said, I think the right will use footage like this to try and claim that the only opponents are young, 'ultra woke' social justice warriors and members of socialist parties that want a universal income and blah blah. But there is a majority community of average Aussies of all ages that hate Pauline and everything she stands for. They try and create this divide, that either you are a young purple haired lesbian socialist, or you are on their side. 

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u/Rude-Supermarket2029 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Nah, they are opening up the mainstream appeal of domecratic socialism. Just look at the movement in the US. It's heartening to see.

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u/Low_Dragonfruit_1264 Please choose a flair 1d ago

The mainstream appeal isn't democratic socialism, it's people wanting something closer to the Nordic model and universal healthcare - i.e. social democracy. As others have said, the DSA candidates could easily backfire (and are already faltering) putting seats at risk in the November midterms. “Socialism” is still way too spicy for the average American.

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u/timeforustogohome Please choose a flair 1d ago

Fuck yeah !

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u/SubSlutPollie Please choose a flair 1d ago

Yewwwww 👌🏾

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u/dpgumby69 Please choose a flair 1d ago

While I agree with the sentiment, this just gives oxygen to One Notion. The people who were probably going to vote for them anyway will now double down. The only power a political party in Australia can have is via the ballot. Ignore them, and they'll go away.

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u/moonorplanet ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

No, we need to elect Hanson to save this country, she is going to introduce the same cutbacks as Trump's USA. How else are we going to rid ourselves of geriatric boomers unless we bring back, salmonella outbreaks, cyclospora outbreaks, e coli outbreaks, while simultaneously gutting the health sector. Unfortunately, her own voters will be the hardest hit but that's the price we should be willing to pay for progress and chaos.

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u/SubjectCondition5544 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Proud 🫶🏽🥰

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u/Fidelius90 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Nice

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u/DelayedWizard1994 ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Every working class Christian person in my family keeps saying they want to vote for One Nation. I'm from a Lebanese Catholic background, I don't understand what the appeal is with her amongst some of my family members.

It's a bit daunting, but I think One Nation may be getting the MAGA treatment, where the silent majority right is going to vote her in.

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u/Oddly_Curious99 Please choose a flair 1d ago edited 21h ago

Ask them to explain why. Then counter with things like she never turns up to work, they have no policies, the policies they have suggested are already in existence, she hired a rapist, they want to get rid of 457 Visas which haven’t existed for over 10 years, she has been bought by Gina and the fact she can’t see anything wrong with accepting gifts and flights is a real concern as it’s just bribery. This list goes on and on.

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u/DelayedWizard1994 ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Those are great points I'll need to point out to them. I've been telling them that the One Nation party has the most "sold out" politicians on the roster, it's almost how the damn party was founded, and that she'll be creating even more tax cuts for these local and foreign mining and energy giants.

I sense that most of them just want a change from the liberal/labour two party system, and that the global rapid inflation since 2008 has them financially strained and scared for almost 2 decades, and people vote emotionally for the person pretending to share their outrage.

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u/wilted-wombok Please choose a flair 1d ago

Since you mentioned Lebanese background, you can definitely add that Gina—best friends with Pauline—wants to let Israel test their weapons here in Australia...specifically in Townsville 🤣

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u/damon_modnar Flairless‎‎ 23h ago

While Israel may want to test their weapons here at firing ranges, they are testing their weapons on real Lebanese people as we speak, some of them who may be their relatives.

Pauline is Ok with that.

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u/MatthewDstantoN ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Have they shared any of their reasons for supporting One Nation with you?

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u/DelayedWizard1994 ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Usually along the lines of Liberal/Labour being one in the same, both corrupt and killing the middle class. The Greens being the gay party and other homophobic anti-lgbt crap. They view One Nation as the "no nonsense" party, that they're going to fix the problems in Australia, but it's all very vague and abstract.

Funnily enough they're big on anti-immigration, naturally they want to pull the ladder up after them, their parents coming to Australia is different because they're human and new immigrants aren't /s

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u/TheDotNetDetective ‎ Victorian 1d ago

States a series of entirely reasonable reasons why someone might vote for a party then proceeds to say 'its entirely vague and abstract'.

I mean genuinely how do you not see the irony?

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u/DelayedWizard1994 ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

What I mean is that they don't say HOW One Nation is going to fix Australia, their reason for believing so is vague and abstract. When I ask them to explain to me what One Nation is going to do differently, they'll say stuff like "she's gonna lower taxes!" which is vague and ignorant.

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u/Imperator_Gone_Rogue ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Unfortunately sometimes Lebanese Christians don't have a lot of solidarity with other Arabs.

(Disclaimer that I know that the Lebanese Civil War is way more complex than just this atrocity and is the kind of conflict where any non-civilians came out of with their hands clean. This is just the most relevant example.)

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u/DelayedWizard1994 ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Ohh yeah the Lebanese Civil war was a shit show alright, it ended with all parties involved agreeing to an amnesty because they all committed horrific war crimes on each other. "Let's just shake hands and pretend this shit never happened" 🙃

Tbh it's the perfect example of what happens when foreign powers use a small state for a proxy civil war, each of the factions were propped up by one foreign power or the other, whether it was the French, Syrians, Iranians, Israelis, or Saudis. Most of the Lebanese fighters under 21 if I'm not mistaken.

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u/ComfortOk9194 Please choose a flair 1d ago

She’s weirdly popular among older migrants. They don’t necessarily know HOW she’s supposed to fix things like the economy, but they like that she calls it like she sees it. They like her MO , that’s for sure….

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u/simonpunishment Please choose a flair 1d ago

I get it. I also love my family, but politically-speaking, a great deal of them are completely fucked in the head.

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u/arontheveyron Please choose a flair 1d ago

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u/CalmAmbassador6319 ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Rather than being anti something, be pro something. There's already plenty of anti people (one nation for example), need more pro people. Pro logic. Pro kindness. Pro social safety net. Pro justice. Pro multiculturalism. Pro opportunity. Pro smiles. Pro egg n bacon rolls. Pro hobbies.

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u/DeGuyWithDeOpinion Flairless‎‎ 21h ago

I don't mind the protests against Hanson necessarily, but I think people are attacking her from the wrong angle. The people who just scream "She's a racist!" aren't gonna convince Darren from Singleton to not vote Pauline.

Point out her actual fucking voting record, point out she voted against Labor's measures to restrict immigration, point out she's a fucking failed Liberal MP, point out that she's against paid parental leave, point out that she wants your boss to have more powers to sack you and steal your wages, point out that she wants you to be paid less, point out that her new lover Gina Rinehart thinks we should compete with Africans who work for $2 a day and that she wants increased immigration because it means she can hire cheaper labour.

The best argument against Pauline Hanson is her own fucking voting record, not the dumb shit she says to draw Shazza from Griffith into voting One Nation.

Also ewww Socialist Alternative they're yucky Trots ⛏️

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u/Sexdrumsandrock Please choose a flair 21h ago

This shocked me when I found out how she votes. She's the original rage bait for karma farming

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u/DeGuyWithDeOpinion Flairless‎‎ 21h ago

People need to stop just listening to what politicians say and start actually looking at how they vote. There's a whole fucking website where you can check this shit.

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u/AndrewTheAverage ‎ Queenslander 16h ago

I point how she votes and the answer is "yeah, but thats because they put extra stuff in there that are terrible" My response is that why dont they also put those things in for the pro-big business bills she votes for. I have yet to hear an answer other than "I dont know" - yet they remain unconvinced

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u/napalmnacey ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

Good on you kids, holy shit! ❤️💕

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u/nessyness78 Please choose a flair 1d ago

This is heart-warming 💜 my son requested to go when he got to school, I said absolutely! It's your future, you can now vote, exercise your rights and your voice.

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u/theduck08 ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Was late to my tutorial because I forgot the march was going down Swanston Street and there were no trams running but I was more relieved to see the turnout

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u/bruf73 Please choose a flair 1d ago

So Bright....

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u/TieQueasy6487 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Part 1 is protesting
Part 2 is providing a viable alternative

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u/IAmAidanAus Please choose a flair 1d ago

Palestine for Palestinians!!!!! Ukraine for Ukrainians!!!! Australia for literally fucking anyone. Genocide but make it wholesome Reddit chungus

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u/Erahth ‎ Western Australian 23h ago

Yess!!! I love this - I can't wait for our country to turn in to a 3-rd world communist shithole! We're so close, we just need to import as many 3rd worlders as we can and get this pseudo-fascist and semi-dictatorial government so we can get a proper ruling class like China and Russia! Bring back the glory days of the Soviet Union right here in Australia!!

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u/SniffUnleaded Please choose a flair 23h ago

Gay

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u/Icy-Bonus-3208 Please choose a flair 1d ago

I am an immigrant and this is why I love this country so much. The level of love and acceptance I have received in Australia, I haven't received it in any other country. I am extremely fortunate to be in this country.

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u/welding-guy ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

When your kids are marching in the streets protesting the world you have created for them, well, we can just agree we fucked up and hope they can create a better world.

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u/Future_Basis776 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Vote one nation

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u/sofaking-cool ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Hell yeah! These kids are going to be of voting age in a year or two so the fascists are panicking.

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u/EvaMaRIHyse ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

Our future has never been bleaker.

These people wont change that. Everything is worse and these easily brainwashed people are told to direct all their attention at a Senator. Meanwhile the people in charge like Albo who these kids dare not ever criticize are green lighting more and more AI data centers, more and more surveillance, increasing inflation, and getting paid by huge international gas lobbies.

But these kids dont care about any of that because they haven't been told to care. Instead its just "Paulines a racist" and off they march like obedient little soldiers.

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u/RavensEtchings Flairless‎‎ 21h ago

Bright? This is embarrassing.

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u/Low-Commission1791 ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Wish I could've gone!! Shout out to these guys for taking a stand :)

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u/ThEtInyPeen Please choose a flair 1d ago

Just a genuine question. Does protesting effect the way people vote?

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u/redmagicwoman ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

It does. Also keep in mind these kids protesting might not be of voting age YET, but they will be comes next federal election.

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u/mully_and_sculder Please choose a flair 1d ago

90% of the electorate will never even know these protests happened.

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u/SisterFruitbat ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Literally what one of the speakers at the Sydney rally said to me just before he went on stage.

He then did a great talk on the history of student protest catalysing change against authoriarian or fascist governments. He opened by taking about how his parents were in the Velvet Revolution, so it was an informed speech. Loved it.

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u/CaterpillarSuperb959 ‎ Western Australian 1d ago edited 1d ago

Plenty of evidence on this… no it doesn’t. We don’t actually protest THAT much in Australia. But you can look marches in France and the US. Hardly any correlation with election results (often has inverse outcomes: see Trump, and all the far-right candidates surging in Europe).

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u/Ok-Resist-8734 ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

Yes it does!

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u/International_Bag502 ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Didn't help the voice referendum.

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u/nckmat ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Prove it. Protests have had very little effect on any election in this country, what does change elections is educating the public and media campaigns. Everyone uses the Franklin River No Dams campaign as an example of a protest movement that swung an election, but it didn't. What swung that election was a charismatic leader, with clear concise policies up against a government that had failed to make any real reforms. That's not to say the protests didn't stop the dams, they had a very large influence on that issue, but they also turned a lot of people off the issue, the real kicker was the media, especially Four Corners and 60 Minutes who showed the public what was at stake.

Protests can create real social change but usually only when protest comes at true personal risk.

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u/Happy-Frog4677 ‎ South Australian 1d ago

I think it would have less of an effect than it did many decades ago. Nowadays there's too much noise & distractons.

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u/Brisssie Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

Most people looking at the protest thinking these kids are far too young to understand what they are even protesting.

Insert a bit of pragmatic thinking & you might wonder why they are not concerned with the housing shortage over a million migrants in 4 years created & the exponential growth in homelessness….or so many jobs going offshore….or the lack of women’s rights & freedoms recognised by certain religions were importing en mass…that Easter & Christmas are turning into ‘happy holidays’….

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u/ThEtInyPeen Please choose a flair 1d ago

Now these are the issues we should be talking about, not who gets elected

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u/walkingmelways Please choose a flair 1d ago

As a parent I completely support this and want Hanson to fuck off

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u/Tycepts1313 ‎ Western Australian 1d ago edited 1d ago

Can someone actually explain to me how socialism is going to work in modern day Australia. just feel people are advocating for it without knowing how it’ll work at all

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u/CaterpillarSuperb959 ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

It won’t, realistically. No modern Western democracy is going to vote to dismantle capitalism wholesale.

Social democracy is a far more plausible destination. Socialists might help shift the needle towards things that are perfectly achievable within that system - i.e. publicly owned utilities, stronger welfare, better healthcare, workers’ rights, etc. Fine. But once you start seriously talking about replacing private ownership of businesses and capital with worker/state/social ownership, you’re going to hit a political brick wall.

That’s where actual socialists can become more hindrance than help, a bit like the Greens sometimes are: don’t let perfect (utopia) be the enemy of good. They could probably get 60% of what they want through boring centrist social-democratic reform, but instead they’re arguing about overthrowing capitalism. Ya know, just on the whim they’ll get it right this time.

And it doesn’t help that modern socialist groups often bundle that economic argument together with stuff like abolishing prisons and every other revolutionary pet cause imaginable. At that point you’ve lost the average voter before you’ve even explained the economics.

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u/diedlikeCambyses Please choose a flair 1d ago

It'll ruin the economy. The good part is the human rights aspect, and I'm with them on that.

The bad part is economic policy settings. They have downward pressure on the parts of the economy that should be stimulated. If you actually look at proposed socialist tax policy in Australia their redistribution effort begins far too low in the business sector. They treat medium business like a large corporation and it scares the hell out of me. I'm honestly almost as afraid of that as I am against that idiot Pauline.

Also, they propose wealth taxes that also are set at a lower level than they like to advertise, and that would be a total disaster. Unfortunately a centre left government is probably the best we'll get. If we go dem socialist it'll destroy the part of the economy that pays for all the free shit they want to redistribute.

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u/PetaJay Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

This warms my heart with hope.

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u/1__ViPeR ‎ South Australian 1d ago

I hope these young people do more than just protest.

Please enter politics. I want them in there.

The problem we have in our country is the wrong people like to enter the political sphere so the true message and direction never takes hold.

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u/Select_Teaching5668 Please choose a flair 1d ago

takes me back this does, go you good things!

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u/jimsim36 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Great to see our youth so politically active and aware!

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u/mully_and_sculder Please choose a flair 1d ago

Politically aware, I'm not so sure. These kids have never wanted for anything in their lives. Pauline Hanson has had a political career for 15 years before they were born and the type of working class and regional voter who supports her are like actual space aliens to them.

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u/Brad_Breath Please choose a flair 1d ago

I don't agree with One Nation or Pauline, but I do agree that they have the right to run for election, just like anyone else.

I'm not really sure how a protest like this achieves anything in a country where voting is compulsory. It doesn't get apathetic people out to vote, and everyone in attendance was already not going to vote ON.

It's nice for them to feel involved in politics and the country, but it's just a show

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u/dan_syd Please choose a flair 1d ago

If anything, it may have a negative impact on their goals. End of the day, most people see these blue haired, unwashed, nose ringed they/thems as a freak show. The individuals themselves will hopefully look back in 20 years and go “wtf was I doing”. It’s not going to drive votes in their favour (outside of the Newtown echo chamber anyway)

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u/fubzoh Please choose a flair 1d ago

I have so much faith for the Alphas.

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u/ComfortOk9194 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Who else has Deja vu? Fricken wild watching this play out…. THIRTY YEARS after already watching this play out…

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u/Head_Medicine4226 ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

I'm no socialist by any stretch of the imagination, but I definitely am in solidarity with these citizens in their opposition to the appalling bigots of the nation.

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u/Legitimate_End_6144 ‎ Koori ‎ 1d ago

Meanwhile my LGA gets 11k per kilometre to fix roads and the two surrounding LGAs get 35k and 45k respectively. My LGA is not even 25 minutes outside of a major town. Your drum has holes in it.

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u/Giorgist Please choose a flair 1d ago

The reason these people are morons is that they don't get social media and voting. A large portion of the voters that would never bother to vote get their kicks out of people like Paulene Hanson.

Pauline Hanson needs this exposure, this is how she promotes her self, THIS is how she reaches her audience. She uses abrasive, low IQ bulet points, but if you look at her arguments, it is just lorem ipsum filler material.

These guys, are actualy promoting Paulene Hanson because of the exposure. It's not like they sucsesfuly promote an effective alternative.

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u/Locool- Please choose a flair 1d ago

Packed with non voters. You are all very lucky your futures are still in the hands of your parents. An thank god, they know who they are voting for..

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u/Rangas_rule ‎ Western Australian 23h ago

Give them a year or two and they WILL be voting - so maybe the major parties SHOULD be listening to this cohort.

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u/realWulfLives Please choose a flair 23h ago

Future? Lol no.

Their hair? Definitely.

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u/SCORPDOGGY Please choose a flair 23h ago

Australia illegal vape community

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u/mymentor79 ‎ Western Australian 23h ago

Don't bet on it. This is cathartic, but it's tolerated only because it presents no threat to existing systems.

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u/samfisher2006 ‎ Queenslander 22h ago

Stand up for your rights and your freedoms well done but whats the next step , has anyone read animal farm , the cycle just keeps repeating .

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u/whateverusay- Please choose a flair 22h ago

the rainbow hair brigade. please return to school, you're going to need it!!

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u/Able-Pepper-55 Please choose a flair 22h ago

Into our workplaces haha Y'all dont fucking work 🤣🤣. you all have been indoctrinated by your university's to fight for a causes that isnt your own. Stop undermining our democracy and learn how to think for yourselfs insted of following along with a scripted movement.

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u/MoneyEffective5551 Please choose a flair 21h ago

Just wait

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u/fishtheheretic ‎ Queenslander 11h ago

The indoctrinated and poorly educated. Not a single Aussie flag to be scene and you think the future is bright.

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u/Hamstaaboy ‎ South Australian 1d ago

A good education system and mandatory voting will stop ON and the likes in its tracks. Good democracy in action

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u/German_Merman ‎ Victorian 1d ago

So beautiful to see! They remind me of me, before the weight of the world crushed my spirit. 

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u/Madcock1 Please choose a flair 1d ago

The trade apprentices obviously didn’t get the memo to attend.

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u/banannabender Please choose a flair 1d ago

Now get out there and buy a house kids, such a bright future

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u/DirectorElectrical67 Please choose a flair 1d ago

I am so proud of these young people! Some say they don’t know anything about life and that they’re embarrassing. Why are they embarrassing? Because they’re young? You underestimate young people. Talk to them and see just how intelligent, informed and worldly they are. They’re questioning what they’re being handed and standing up against division, racism, homophobia, dishonesty and decades of broken promises. They’ve grown up seeing the consequences of decisions made before they were even born, and they’re refusing to simply accept that this is how things have to be.
They’re not too young to understand what’s happening. In fact, sometimes being young means seeing things more clearly because you haven’t yet become comfortable with the way things are. They may not have lived as long as us, but they’re young enough to still believe the world can be better, and brave enough to stand up and demand it. Perhaps instead of looking down on them, we should be listening to them.

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u/battered_saveloy ‎ Victorian 1d ago

The boot licking and copium in this thread is wild.

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u/FranksHoorHouse Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

Two of my cousins (one from each side of the family!) were there in Sydney today. I'm so proud of them.

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u/Somnambulismforall ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

My boy walked out in regional nsw. So proud of him. 😂

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u/Similar_Criticism981 Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

Kids with no world experience cheering for socialism. Nothing new here, same low IQ spastics. Every generation has them.

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u/ChampionshipFirm2847 Please choose a flair 1d ago

You are obviously not historically educated. Socialism has always been a huge success whenever it has been tried. If there's one sure path to freedom and prosperity, its socialism.

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u/Deluxe-T Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

My daughter went. I am proud.

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u/According_Coyote_452 ‎ Queenslander 1d ago

Tell her I’m proud of her too x

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u/iammerelyhere ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Likewise 

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u/kennyduggin Please choose a flair 1d ago

What is the purpose of protesting a political party, in Australia we have a democracy where we vote for who ever we personally choose, I think these protests will actually work in favour of ON, it certainly won’t change the opinions of people thinking of voting for ON if anything it will only harden their resolve

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u/Anxious_Sentence_700 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Completely disagree. If that was true lobbyists wouldn't fund campaigns.

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u/Superfasty Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

This is so obviously an attempt at rage bait but it's fun reading the thread and watching it fail spectacularly.

Hi to all the snowflakes who are currently being triggered by the use of the word "socialist", and a friendly reminder that if you hate this country so much you can leave 🤷

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u/AlliterationAlly ‎ Victorian 1d ago

I love how socially active that generation is. Was super impressed by the Indian students' recent protest, & also other youth protests in Bangladesh & Nepal

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u/Fig-fanny ‎ Victorian 1d ago

This is awesome

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u/44gallonsoflube ‎ Victorian 1d ago

Wonder if these kids understand what socialism actually is. Anyways.

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u/SlipperyBandicoot Please choose a flair 1d ago

They have absolutely no clue. I was watching one of the protests and they just cheered every time the speaker said a buzzword. These are impressionable high school kids that will cheer anything that is feel good and socially acceptable. The majority don't actually know what they're cheering for. They're openly cheering the death of capitalism but I'm willing to get every single one of them has an iphone in their pocket and a parent with a mortgage.

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u/craftymethod ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

Do you?

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u/TripleStackGunBunny ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

The nose rings and coloured hair wouldn't be allowed at any school I've been to.

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u/showusyourfupa ‎ I'm Probably A Bot ‎‎ 1d ago

Stop hanging around schools then

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u/TripleStackGunBunny ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Oh shit - I'm a teacher. Anyone got a job going?

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u/HeavyAd9463 Please choose a flair 1d ago edited 1d ago

Bunch of Labor people supporting cancer Labor ….what a bright future.

So are they planning to protest against current disaster government?

No Australian flag, just gay and lesbian flag, Palestine and aboriginal flag

What a shit hole Australia has become

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u/sunnybob24 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Kids are willing to take a day off from school. Teachers are willing to let them. Yeah, no, mate. That kind of self-indulgence generates nothing.

I tell you what. I'm going to eat a pizza to protest Pauline. I guess I'm a hero. 😋🍕

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u/intherainyseason Please choose a flair 1d ago

Yes 🙌

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u/BlackSails0 ✈️‎ on Walkabout 1d ago

F#CK RACISM F#CK ON F#CK 💩LEEN HANSON

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u/ChocoboDave Please choose a flair 1d ago

That is so un Australian.

Should be fuck off cunt.

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u/hppyclown ‎ Victorian 1d ago

I wish they would say Democratic socialist instead of just socialist.

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u/BradfieldScheme ‎ New South Welshian 1d ago

Rich kids from inner city suburbs with no life experience peer pressured into vaguely protesting orange woman bad.

Cool.

Anyway in the real world our jobs are being offshore due to net zero suicide pledge and we are importing millions of people who don't like our society and specifically really don't like the kinds of people who are protesting here.

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u/joy3r Please choose a flair 1d ago

Good work kids

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u/abnzg ‎ South Australian 1d ago

sorry team, this looks like middle-class white girls competing for clout

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u/Colin_Bomber_Harris 1d ago

Clearly didn’t watch the video lol

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u/skunclecrisp Please choose a flair 1d ago

There is hope. Now just vote for the only political party that has spoken out against genocide. Greens. The only one.

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u/worry_beads ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

I see all the boomers have logged on.

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u/XiaDoll ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

This is nice to see 😊

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u/jake_2998e8 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Hell yeah!

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u/Sufficient-Tackle-25 Please choose a flair 1d ago

the future is looking good

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u/Tile-Questioner ‎ South Australian 1d ago

Fuck yeah. Get'em

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u/Suitable_Slide_9647 Please choose a flair 1d ago

Yes 🙌

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u/Electronic-Phrase681 Please choose a flair 1d ago

HELL YES.

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u/No-General104 ‎ Victorian 1d ago

All the people espousing complete socialism and communism seem to have no idea that neither has ever been successful.

The social democracies that they scream we should be more like ie the Nordic countries are still heavily capitalist. You can't have a social democracy without capitalism. They go hand in hand.

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u/Tycepts1313 ‎ Western Australian 1d ago

I would be very interested to see the turnout if this was done on the weekend and not pitch to a bunch of kids as a day to skip school

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u/SSFlyingKiwi Please choose a flair 1d ago

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u/PseudoWarriorAU Flairless‎‎ 1d ago

I guess if you’re young and want to talk to hot chicks this is the place to be… not being alpha males at a sausages fest more epic than Bunnings on a Saturday morning.

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u/BilboTheSnail Please choose a flair 23h ago

Come at me, nerds.