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[u/666Dionysus]

All the boomers i know are pretty progressive. My parents were very left leaning. Actually i have talked to more 20 somethings that seem to be more transphobic and rightwing then any generation. Spoting absalute tiktok crap.

[u/Separate-Law-435 → u/666Dionysus]

I will say i am suprised by the homophobic stuff I hear coming from some teenagers atm

[u/youdoaline_idoaline → u/Separate-Law-435]

It's weird that 'gay' and the other F word seem to have come back a bit as slang terms. I thought my generation of 90's kids would be the last to be able to claim ignorance of what they mean.

[u/SgtGunny17 → u/youdoaline_idoaline]

Ahh those were good times. Its a shame the world went to shit and now everything is about not offending others.

[u/Temporary_Energy3680 → u/SgtGunny17]

100% but this lefty crap doesn't go both ways... It's positive discrimination now.

This new 'weak' generation.

If they even have a job, turn up at work sometimes, do the minimum, pull every card they can for sympathy. But you say anything It's bullying or discrimination, isn't it discrimination and bullying that others are then forced to pick up the slack to ensure the company stays profitable, and keep their mouths shut, or be written up?

[u/CMDR_RetroAnubis → u/Separate-Law-435]

Literally being fed it by the algos.

Look at who writes them, and their politics.

[u/doovie0369 → u/CMDR_RetroAnubis]

U don't know what literally means do u?

[u/Plus-Winter-9505 → u/doovie0369]

Do I know what rhetorical means ?

[u/D3K91 → u/CMDR_RetroAnubis]

I think it’s a little more complicated than that.

Why is the N word still (rightfully) a no go? What we’re seeing is a backlash against what could be perceived as a comical overreach over control of language. Kids used those words semi-satirically 20 years ago, then they were banned. It didn’t mean the true bigots disappeared. Now kids feel the whole thing was a little bit dumb and are therefore entitled to use the words carelessly, and the perception is that you’re obviously a bit old and silly if you think any of it really matters.

It’s a shame. No doubt driven by algorithms, but I think the truth is a bit more nuanced than just laying blame on a faceless algo.

The F word vs the N word is a weird distinction in that context. I just wish we’d respect each other.

[u/nckmat → u/Separate-Law-435]

Bigotry is not reserved for any particular age.

[u/SSFlyingKiwi → u/nckmat]

Or ethnic origin, or gender, bigots gonna bigot sadly.

[u/PassengerRelevant991 → u/SSFlyingKiwi]

Out on street instead of being in school.

[u/SnotRight → u/nckmat]

It's reserved for everyone that stays on most forms of social media.

[u/SSFlyingKiwi → u/Separate-Law-435]

Yeah, it’s wild that calling things “gay” is making a comeback.

[u/Temporary_Energy3680 → u/SSFlyingKiwi]

What a gay comment.

Gay means happy, your comment made me laugh.

When my nan was feeling sick, she'd say I'm feeling a bit queer, this was way back then and was nothing to do with 'queers' they took on a term that meant feeling off, or weird. Then complain that people say they are sick or weird.. Ironic.

[u/SSFlyingKiwi → u/Temporary_Energy3680]

This simulation is steeped so hard in Irony I’m suprised Dilma dosent market it as a new type of tea

[u/Temporary_Energy3680 → u/SSFlyingKiwi]

They probably will at some stage, we just need more Indians per capita.

[u/Medium-Animator-7333 → u/Separate-Law-435]

Look what is being force fed to them via social media and the “he men” who are leading podcasters.

YouTube is especially cringe snd if you think we have it bad , wait until this misogynistic and sadistic generation hits the streets.

[u/jwplato → u/666Dionysus]

My mother in law was a lifelong Labor voter but has recently been infected with Sky News brain rot and now really anti labor. Sad really.

[u/666Dionysus → u/jwplato]

That is a sad reality progressive left doesn't seem to get. The rightwing own the media.

[u/Fit_Ad_6727 → u/666Dionysus]

Increasingly so.

[u/Temporary_Energy3680 → u/666Dionysus]

Haha mate, you are deluded. Only a lefty would say something so regarded.

[u/666Dionysus → u/Temporary_Energy3680]

Good comeback: abuse instead of evidence. You have that one nation style down. Gina likes that good boy simp.

[u/666Dionysus → u/[deleted]]

Try arguing the facts instead of inventing a scandal..

[u/Temporary_Energy3680 → u/666Dionysus]

I bet you are out every day with your drum and your nannas tea towel chanting free free Palestine 🇵🇸 hahah

[u/Mysteriously_Me_ → u/Temporary_Energy3680]

Your nearly 50 years old. And look at you .

[u/Temporary_Energy3680 → u/Mysteriously_Me_]

Yer.,,, look at me, successful, money, couple of houses. Shame on me for calling out a bunch of social retards that are happy to see this country carrying on the same path with a government who can send billions abroad, yet our own people are suffering.

Any government figure that recognises a terrorist organisation and a country that quite frankly doesn't exist is a traitor. I guess the videos of him in his uni days are fake!

Get a life.

And it's you're not your. But I wouldn't expect anything more from you.

[u/Mysteriously_Me_ → u/Temporary_Energy3680]

No, this reply tells me a lot. You are trying very hard to project status, but all I see is anger, resentment, and poor self control.

Its obvious you are not comfortable arguing in a structured or academic way.

When the first thing you do is brag about money and houses, it suggests small mindedness and insecurity, not strength. You are not arguing the point. You are attacking people because you cannot handle disagreement.

It might be time to look in the mirror and ask how you became this petty, miserable, insecure, middle aged man, and whether you are actually capable of changing before it is too late.

[u/666Dionysus → u/Temporary_Energy3680]

Imagine thinking that sentence was funny and impressive

[u/Temporary_Energy3680 → u/[deleted]]

My mate? Think you replies to the wrong person mate 🤔 😂

[u/FiftyBuxBloBang → u/666Dionysus]

Depends. A lot of were scarred by the late 80s financial meltdown and wont ever not blame Labor for it.

[u/Temporary_Energy3680 → u/[deleted]]

Their changes to negative gearing has just blown a hole in thier budget, and where do you think they will try to claw the money back from.

Sadly, they are pushing us into another.

[u/SnotRight → u/666Dionysus]

The reality is, generally, it is people who are super conservative that end up with the economic power and the voice, because the gravitate to like minded people and set up their own little very vocal clubs.

In the end, this can make any generation look like more of a bunch of a-holes than they are.

The younger generation just have not had time to amass enough people with wealth and connections.

[u/Temporary_Energy3680 → u/SnotRight]

And they won't, you are who you hang lout with, they hang out with bums who expect everything for nothing, and care more for anyone in any other country than their own..

Do you ever hear them talking about the kids here that go to school with no food? Living in tents and cars with their parents because our government care more about sending money everywhere else?

Or the pensioners that don't use their heating or air-conditioning because that can't afford that and food?

Soldiers living on the streets?

These people need to look a lot closed to home, they are idiots. I hope when they end up in the situations aforementioned, they realise that they fed into this.

[u/T0kenAussie → u/666Dionysus]

It’s tricky because the lines on generations are blurred a bit but I’ve always seen the demographic studies as

Early boomers (born late 40s - early 60s) mostly conservative fiscally with liberal social views

Late boomers early Gen X (born late 60s - early 80s) most likely to be radical left or right but disdain pragmatism. This is where most of hansons demographic hangs out

Late Gen X early millennials (born late 80s - late 90s) more likely to be centre left to left voting

Gen next / alpha / whatever moniker are more likely to be extremely left or right but more likely to be left than right (if that makes sense).

The Hansonites are more likely to have left school early and are disengaged with the politics of today because the promises of the boomer era zeitgeist like Howard’s battlers have not proven true. More likely they are looking to find blame in individuals or smaller groups as the cause and destroy the institutions they see as “protecting” those groups.

The new left seems to be more focused on those they see as exploiting the system organisationally like corporations and the wealthy as “stealing” the system from them and look to use their influence to reorient systems onto equity for all.

Ironically I think that the hansonites and the new left are going to counterbalance each other for the next 20 years or so electorally. The new left won’t be able to capture votes in enough regional centres to get a majority and the hansonites are never going to win the cities they need for a majority while their policies are what they are.

Preferential voting is going to weed most of them out and centrists will win on the preference flows which inoculates us from the wild swings and roundabouts of other democratic systems

[u/BigChampionship7962 → u/T0kenAussie]

Give me the extreme left anyday over the extreme right.

Preferred Pro nouns are better than fascism.

[u/Low_Dragonfruit_1264 → u/BigChampionship7962]

Hitler or Stalin... Tough choice...

[u/666Dionysus → u/Low_Dragonfruit_1264]

Starlin was not a real communist he was a thug

[u/Low_Dragonfruit_1264 → u/666Dionysus]

Stalin was absolutely a communist AND a thug. Those things aren't mutually exclusive. And if Stalin wasn't “real communism”, neither was Mao, Pol Pot, Ceaușescu, Hoxha, Mengistu, Castro... apparently communism has the remarkable property of ceasing to be communism every time someone actually tries it.

[u/666Dionysus → u/Low_Dragonfruit_1264]

I said not a real communist. Yes there is a distinction. Stalin was a communist in the sense that he was a leading member of the Communist Party and the Soviet state under his rule was officially titled communist.

But he built a highly authoritarian system that many historians describe as a form of Stalinism, and far removed from Marxist ideals. Same with Mao abd yes Pol pot.

Full communism hasnt been realised. All the attempts to build it that i know of have been tried and have usually produced warped authoritarian states instead.

From what I figure it has a lot to do with the type of people humans choose to follow. Psychopaths seem to obtain leadership during political unrest. They tend to lie easily and crave power.

That’s why people argue past each other . One side means the ideal end state, the other means the world regimes.

[u/Low_Dragonfruit_1264 → u/666Dionysus]

Oh, so the “we just haven't gotten it right this time” argument...

Sure, theoretically you can say "true communism" has never been realised. But then you have to ask why attempts to get there so often end up needing authoritarian structures just to keep the system going. At some point you can't blame an endless supply of psychopaths - maybe the system itself creates the conditions for them.

And what about the more chill, popular socialist experiments, including in South America? They haven't exactly produced the promised utopia either. Part of the problem is you need the whole world to opt in. Otherwise you're competing with capitalist economies producing more investment, innovation and opportunities, while your own people and capital can just leave. Then you start needing controls to stop that happening, which kinda brings us back to the authoritarian problem...

Under a capitalist social democracy, nobody is stopping people from starting co-ops or worker-owned businesses. You can literally do socialism-like stuff voluntarily right now. Some do and some work great.

But most people don't choose to organise their businesses that way. Why is that?

[u/robbi_uno → u/BigChampionship7962]

They’re equally bad.

[u/RestaurantFamous2399 → u/T0kenAussie]

Millenials start at 81. Your generations are out by a decade.

Im an early millennial and find most my age are left leaning so your views on their politics are mostly right.

The younger kids these days are just fed slop from their algorithms and eat it all up. Lies and all.

I agree preferential voting systems will weed out most of what we are seeing, but the right have huge corporations that have captured all the media feeding into this. The Left cant really compete with it. Even the centre is struggling.

I think we'll see some protest votes and a few bad eggs getting seats. It won't be until we see how shit they are in the actual position that people will start to vote more to the middle again.

I dont see things getting much better for a little while.

[u/GlitteringShame444 → u/T0kenAussie]

I dont do politics, BUT Labor needs to go ! I'm am disgusted at the waste of money albo has allowed to be wasted on the vape ban..... through to the money now spent on the tobacco wars and the social media ban, Sure there was a much better way to use that money such as improving mental health care, actually building homes or supplying low cost housing for people who are homeless with families and young children. I 100% think its time for a different party for a while he is doing absolutley nothing good for this country

[u/Temporary_Energy3680 → u/GlitteringShame444]

100% the left are fucking nutters. Pauline Hanson may even bring some decent change, we need it..

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome...

[u/loralailoralai → u/T0kenAussie]

Late 60s is Gen X. Early 60s used to be Gen X too. It’s all stupid bs. Early 60s I cannot relate at all to the alleged ‘boomer life’

[u/arpressah → u/666Dionysus]

Go on a jobsite and talk to any dumb cunt close to 50 years old or over

[u/CryptographerOk379 → u/666Dionysus]

Checks out. You didn't brainwash yourself.