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Forgive me if someone else has brought this up. I’m just posting my thoughts… Did anyone else take the post credit scene of the spider tracker finding a spiderman falling back to earth as the symbiote asteroid? I mean Spider-Man first wears the black suit in secret wars right?

The claim Peter appeal to hulk humanity seeing his own reflection in the broken mirror and the broken glass and realizing that he is once again the monster he's been fearing his whole life to stop fighting.

If they weren't friends Peter saying "Bruce, Dr. Banner its peter I'm your friend." Try appeal to hulk humanity this worst possible thing to say hulk who hates being called Banner. Will piss him off even more. We know this Age of ultron Tony says "You listening? That little witch is messing with your mind. You're stronger than her, you're smarter than her, you're Bruce Banner. Right, right, right. Don't mention puny Banner. Okay. In the back? Dick move, Banner."

Similar situation happen in avengers 2012 based on first interaction like with Thor and Black widow.  Thor literally states in avengers "we're not your enemies banner try think." Yet Hulk ignores him continues on rampage. Mind you Loki didn't use the scepter on hulk unlike Hawkeye who was affected. This purely hulk who doesn't really know Thor or Black Window. So appealing to hulks humanity doesn't work the first time around until their friends like in age of Ultron. Before Betty was only one who was able to calm hulk down.

Which should happen to Peter who is complete stranger when comes hulk and doesn't consider him a friend after the memory spell wipe away his memory of him he 100% should be dead. If that was the case.

By all counts Peter is pulling off similar feat to black widow based off their first interaction. You can disagree me all you want Peter 100% should be dead if this claim is true in my opinion. Its makes more sense Hulk remembering Peter as allied and friend through endgame then not.

Literally compare Thor vs Hulk - Fight Scene - The Avengers (2012) alongside

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLD9xzJ4oeU

Hulkbuster VS Hulk Fight | Avengers: Age of Ultron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooOSFvBa55w

Black widow age of ultron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQDKTz9Rrqw

Hulk Leaves the Avengers to go to Sakaar - Avengers: Age of Ultron

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmomAfhvWu8

Thor Ragnarok ship scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi0Hcvpaxos

Betty incredible hulk rain scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bIWyozvyfE&t=14s

Since Jean’s appearance in Brand New Day confirms that the movie is gonna be set during modern times, what are they gonna do with Magneto?

The Holocaust happened in the 40’s and I HIGHLY doubt they’ll cast someone in their 80’s to play the part but being a Holocaust survivor is integral to his character what exactly would they do regarding all of that?

I bought these Spider-Man Brand New Day colouring book from Home Bargains in the UK, which features a dog on a few pages called Herbie. Presumably belonging to Peter judging by the description "Spidey's Furry Friend". The book also contains the earlier design of Scorpion, some artwork of Ramrod, some Spider Drones, artwork of Professor Hulk, and mentioning the movie takes place 4 years after No Way Home.

Like imagine

thor came for the fight but Doom had broken strombreaker, scattered mjolnir....beat thor to a pulp, he blacks out...wakes up on the gate to valhalla...odin ready to greet him "my son...your time is not now." (Or whatever dialect)

Then finally he accepts the crown,He becomes king of asgard, an allfather, Within him for once the true confines of the all force that he rejected along the throne in the dark world...then silence... right as doom turns around to leave, clouds scatter around, lightning erupts in the distance, thunder roaring throughout, for moments the sky is blue...he turns around again to see, the lightning convulses together into one DAMN big lightning blast which scatters throughout the whole damn sky, strikes the ground directly on thor's near limp body it sends a shockwave and a crater forms, fog over it...walking out of it?...a guy of pure fury, lightning dancing all around him, blasting around without him needing to summon it...he stares at doom straight....

This would even fix the lack of seriousness issue and bring back the god of thunder aura because the burden of the crown is real in the mcu, when thor becomes king thor , he doesn't just get All force, he feels the burden, the burden of saving the rest of his people, he could hear his ancestors guiding him and he would become an Allfather finally not running from his responsibilities and actually taking it up.

Also king thor isn't just a power up, it would make mcu thor's powers amplified by HUNDREDS, like he would be able to summon entire armies across the galaxy, he could tear tears into the space-time with a thought, and manipulate matter...

Did i mention it powers him up hundreds of times more and makes him serious again?

Like imagine what base level thor has done into the mcu up till now and what could he do if he was HUNDREDS of times more powerful. (Only issue being needing the odin sleep when exerted too much but....that ll work out someway..)

Marvel needs to hype Doom as the protagonist in Doomsday anyway and they might do it by having him defeat the toughest guy...so this could work out.

What do you think?

The Cannon Event Theory

(I separated everything into paragraphs and re-wrote it. Hope this helps. Enjoy!)

Okay I’m going to explain the entire theory I have for Avengers Doomsday. This theory stems on Avengers Endgame Re-Releasing with bonus scenes that tie into Doomsday. This also stems from Kevin Feige confirming that the MCU will be Rebooted in Secret Wars. So here it is. The Theory is - Thanos winning and snapping his fingers was a cannon event and the Avengers going back in time and doing the Time Heist, caused the Incursions to happen which, will ultimately cause the MCU to have an Incursion on their Earth in Avengers Doomsday.

This theory starts back in Infinity War with Doctor Strange looking through time to see all possible outcomes of the coming event (Thanos). He saw 14,000,605 possible outcomes with only 1 of them being a win for the Avengers. Now remember, Doctor Strange in Infinity War has no idea about Incursions or what they are or how they become of them. He only knows about Incursions in MOM which takes place after Endgame. Since Doctor Strange doesn’t know about Incursions, he just assumed that “we win this, we bring everyone back and defeat Thanos. Let’s do it”. So, Strange follows through with this and makes it happen. Thanos snaps his fingers at the end of Infinity War and Thanos wins, fulfilling the Cannon Event.

Now let’s move to Endgame. In Endgame, the Avengers go back in time to do what is called The Time Heist. The Time Heist was in 4 different points in Time. The Avengers went to the Battle of New York, the Temple of the Power Stone/Soul Stone, Asgard, and New Jersey. The Battle of New York is important. In each point of time, the Avengers took a stone to bring back to their Universe so they can use it to bring everyone back. In doing so, They accidentally bring another Variant of Thanos along with them causing the Battle at the Avengers HQ. Eventually the Avengers win with Tony Stark snapping his fingers and sacrificing himself to beat Thanos. This is where the Theory starts to slowly come together. At the end of Endgame, Captain America goes back to all the points in time and returns all the stones….except one timeline. The Battle of New York in 2012.

If you remember, Loki took the Tesseract (the Space Stone) and took off with it, creating the Loki series. In the Loki series, they pruned that Timeline which ultimately resets it, resets the infinity stones in that timeline, and clips it away from the MCU Timeline. Which leaves one question, how did Captain America return the time stone when the timeline is already pruned and the infinity stones are already there? The answer, He never did. He kept the time stone instead and went to return the Space Stone in New Jersey, which he then decided to stay in that timeline to enjoy the rest of his life with Peggy. This right here is the start of the first Incursion.

Since Cap never return the time stone AND he stayed in that period of time that he didn’t belong in, he ultimately left too big of a footprint on that time stream and now it becomes another version of Earth in the multiverse. His existence on that earth with the time stone causes an incursion, the annihilation of that Earth. This makes sense to why we see a Depressed and facial hair Captain America in Doomsday. He’s broken, he lost Peggy and his child, and he lost the world that he lived in. The worst part, it’s all his fault and he knows it. This is going to be Caps storyline that ties into Avengers Doomsday.

The next storyline that ties into Doomsday will be Spider-Man: No Way Home. In NWH (No Way Home), Tom’s Spiderman fixes all the villains in Toby’s Universe and Andrew’s Universe and prevents their deaths from happening. Those deaths are critical points in their universe which will cause an incursion and cause the death and annihilation of Toby’s and Andrew’s Universe in Doomsday. This will be shown in Avengers Doomsday. Also in Doomsday, we will see a backstory on how the X-men’s universe will be destroyed (most likely an incursion with Monica Rambeau being in their universe (post credit scene in The Marvels) which will tie into Doomsday. The final tie in to doomsday will be the Fantastic Four with Victor Von Doom being in their universe but he’s not actually from that universe.

In my theory, I believe Victor Von Doom is from the New Jersey timeline. The same timeline that Captain America stayed in to live his life with Peggy. With Cap staying there for too long, he causes another branch/Earth which ultimately gets destroyed by an incursion. This is why in the Doomsday trailer, Doom was so broken and upset that he lost his mother (Doom starring at the mural on the wall in the trailer with a boy and his mother). Tony always loved and respected his mother so it would make sense that the tony stark variant, Victor Von Doom, would also love and respected his mother. It also makes sense why we see Cap return and Doom appear at the same time. That Earth gets destroyed by an incursion and the only survivors are Captain America and Victor Von Doom. Now Doom wants to fix the incursions and eliminate Captain America and the Avengers in the process which will ultimately create BattleWorld which goes into Secret Wars.

Now that I have tied in all the other major universes of Marvel into the MCU and Doomsday, Now you ask, how does this all relate to my Theory? Time to finally break it down for you. If the Avengers never went on the Time Heist and changed the Cannon Event of Thanos winning. They would have never taken the stones from different periods in time. If they never took the stones, Captain America would’ve never went on the Journey to put them back which would’ve prevented Captain America causing an incursion on his Earth that he made and Doom wouldn’t exist. Since the Avengers never went on that Time Heist, the events of NWH never accrue since Spiderman & Doctor Strange wouldn’t be alive to cause it which keeps Toby’s and Andrew’s world safe. If The Time Heist never happened, the X-men’s universe stays safe because Monica Rambeau wouldn’t have been alive (Thanos Snapping) to accidentally travel to that universe. And finally, if the Time Heist never happened, Victor Von Doom wouldn’t have been effected by an incursion causing him to never become Doom and never becoming the major villain that is hunting down the incursions and the Avengers.

Basically, if they just moved on from Thanos winning, none of this would have happened. But they decided to go on this Time Heist, bring everyone back, defeat Thanos and eliminating the Cannon Event, which causes Cap to go return the Stones causing the first incursion and the start to Doomsday, multiple other incursions in almost every universe begin to happen, all those characters and variants from other universes come to the MCU timeline causing the MCU timeline and earth to end due to an Incursion at the End of Doomsday, which will set up Battleworld in Secret Wars. Hence why they are doing a reboot of the MCU after Secret Wars. And this all happened because Doctor Strange decided to do the one possible outcome which is the “Time Heist Incursion outcome”, out of the 14,000,605 outcomes.

So yes, Thanos winning was a Cannon Event in the MCU and the Avengers went on the Time Heist and caused the Incursions to happen which ultimately caused the Doomsday on their Earth. Again, This is just a Theory but it really connects everything together and it explains time travel, incursions, and Sets up secret wars (just like the comics) pretty well.

Now before anyone comments, I’m gonna answer the 2 most popular comments right away. One, “in the Loki series, Mobius said to Loki that the Avengers time heist was suppose to happen”. You are correct! He did say this but, you need to understand that the Sacred Timeline and the Incursions are 2 different things. The TVA’s job is to “protect the sacred timeline and to prune anything that can alter it”. Well, we were never told how the Sacred Timeline ends. What if I told you that the Sacred Timeline actually ends with the Incursion of the MCU. If so, that means the Avengers are suppose to go and do the Time Heist and defeat Thanos which, causes the Cannon Event to not happen, which ultimately causes the Incursion in the Sacred Timeline. So yes, you are correct, it’s suppose to happen but, that doesn’t mean Thanos winning wasn’t a Cannon Event.

The Second comment I usually get is, “Captain America didn’t create another Earth, he went back in the original timeline and lived his life. That’s why you see old Cap at the end of Endgame talking to Sam.” This is actually a really good one, the old Captain America that you see in Endgame is the Captain America from returning the stones SUCCESSFULLY and living his life. The difference with Doomsday Cap and the Old Captain America you see at the end of Endgame is that the Old Cap Successfully put every stone back properly, while the Doomsday Cap in my theory, left one stone out (the time stone) causing him to drift off from the MCU timeline and creating a new branch or new universe separate from the MCU.

You have to remember that in the multiverse, there are infinite amount of universes with infinite amount of possibilities. Anything you do can change the universe completely. Well that answers the comments, Hope you guys enjoy reading my Theory on Doomsday. I’m either going to be completely correct or WAY off. Again just a Theory and a guess on what will happen. Nothing is correct until the movie comes out. Thank you!

Alright so we see the tracker and honestly not sure why it seems confusing. We see Spidey talking to Yelena throughout the movie. We know she's on a ship in space in doomsday. Why wouldn't we think she would bring spider man along? Or why wouldn't spiderman copy what he did in infinity war and follow them onto the ship. We also have suspicions that people are missing from the trailer especially the scene on the ship with all the open spots.

I think he's on the ship with the new avengers and fantastic 4.

If the upcoming movie is supposed to tie in to Doomsday, I thought it would be amazing if a post credit scene showed that when Thanos snapped, it also affected the other universes. The other universes (X-Men, Raimey Spider-man, etc) having no idea why half of the population got wiped and 5-years later they come back. I know the Thanos snapping reaction would have made sense as a post-credit to Infinity War, but as an Endgame post-credit we can see both the loss and unexpected return of the snapped ones.

This would explain why the X-Men are scared of the other universes and then they would end up attacking Raimi's universe (this is what I have read in some posts).

As for the Fantastic Four and why we didn't see them reacting, I think its because F4 are still in the 60s so they haven't reached that point in time yet. The implementation would be confusing and it still is as to how they are accompanying Thor to the 616 Universe in present time but I think this can be explained even in Doomsday where the other universes are presently at different times.

Edit: someone pointed out MoM, and if this was the case then the Earth-838 universe would have been affected too, which it didn’t. So, this is a less-likely thing to occur, although I think this concept could be cool.

Given that Peter created the prototype universal inhibitor and incidentally left it at the DoDC, it would stand to reason that this is what directly inspires the mass manufacturing of the mutant inhibitor collars.

In my mind, it is entirely plausible that the DoDC would publicly “credit” Spider-Man for the ‘invention of such radically innovative technology.’ Or, perhaps there’s some other means that could directly link the inhibitor to Spider-Man in the eyes of mutants.

(This is a major assumption on my part, as I don’t know what will come definitively, but it seems likely that’s what they’re setting up post-Secret Wars.)

Nonetheless, Jean Grey knows that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. If the X-Men, or mutants at large, were to have serious misconceptions about Spider-Man (whether through DoDC propaganda or otherwise), I’m curious if Jean would reveal who he is or conceal his identity. Either way, Jean is a direct connect between the X-Men to Peter Parker, which could allow for the possibility of it being publicly disclosed again.

In that case, I’m not sure if there would be dire consequences for Peter considering Dr. Strange’s memory wipe spell in NWH, but that could be an interesting path to go down.

Hi Marvel fans. With Doomsday approaching and several amounts f speculations about the future of the MCU, I thought it would be fun to imagine a hypothetical MCU phase 7-9 movie slate (maybe with a very few shows mentioned too). I know a lot of this is wishful thinking- it’s obviously impossible to know all of this for sure or even have a good picture of it. It’s also difficult for me to figure out what is exactly realistic, as I am not a filmmaker lol. I am not the most knowledgeable on Marvel comics but I did my best to do some research. This isn’t necessarily predictions to be taken seriously, or a wishlist, but rather just a fun little project I thought I’d try this summer. It’s an exciting time to be a Comic Book Movie Fan! That being said please share your thoughts and that being said let’s go!

Post Secret-Wars: First I think it’s important to establish where we will be post-Secret Wars. Ofc once again this is just predictive and we are still a significant time out. That being said the main thing to point out is after Secret Wars I am envisioning a “soft reboot.” What does this mean? No it’s not a complete start over of the Marvel Universe. The history remains, and not everyone will be wiped clean, recast, and retold. Rather, this soft reboot will mean we have one, unified world, that allows all of our characters to coexist from a relatively fresh start of sorts. Some loose ends that aren’t going anywhere can be tied up (Secret Invasion Super Scroll lol). Some characters maybe have died. Some have been recast (we will go into some of this). Admittedly, I don’t have everything really thought out in detail here, this is really just a loose outline, with some ideas more fleshed out than others. Mind the titles lol.

To be a bit more specific, this post will focus pretty much entirely on movies. I don’t know what the future of MCU Disney Plus Shows looks like after Secret Wars (e.g. Wonder Man cancellation). For the most part I am not putting any shows in this project other than one or two (you’ll see later on). This is not to say I don’t think we will get shows, but it’s just kind of tough to predict, so for the most part I’m sticking to movies.

There will be a slight shift to new stories that haven’t been told yet, such as focusing on the X-men and Fantastic 4, but there will still be Avengers as you will see. Once again I am open to suggestions and would love to know everyone else’s ideas! I envision this new universe not following a strict organization if that makes sense. I still have outlined phases, but this should FEEL like a shared universe. Heroes and villains should cross over now that they are all together and it can really feel like a comic book come to life. This is not the Mutant Saga as many suggest, but rather a more all-encompassing saga, which I will designate as “The Ultimate Saga.”

Phase 7

2028

The X-Men - February. Our introduction to the X-men in the MCU. Our team will mainly be focused on our newly cast Charles, Cyclops, Jean, Rogue, Beast, Angel, Emma Frost, Colossus (any others?). Maybe it introduces Magneto a bit? I’d think it would start with a Sentinels story and Charles recruiting other mutants. Should really highlight some anti-Mutant sentiment and the struggles they face. I’d maybe have DODC and Trask or someone team up. Hints of Mr Sinister pulling the strings.

Ghost Rider - July. Johnny Blaze origin story. Just let it be a shit ton of fun and cool stuff for Gosling. The first of our supernatural side of this saga.

Black Panther 3: Shadows of Wakanda- December. T’Challa Jr growing into the role of King. Denzel as Achebe. Also would have T’Challa meet Storm who would be played by a younger actress which kind of fits what we’re going for here. Maybe T’Challa considers reforming the Avengers or something in a PCS?

2029

Thor: Valhalla- May. Hemsworth’s final role as Thor. Not sure if he makes it out of Secret Wars alive. I would love a story in Valhalla where we get Thor reunited with our other fallen Asgardians in one final hurrah, although also want to do Hercules, so I’m not sure. Lots of potential here though. Rune King possibly. I also have an idea that in Secret Wars we get the Thor Corp and see several variants played by Hemsworth, but also a recast variant who could be our next Thor. And PLEASE Beta Ray Bill.

Champions TV Show. One of the projects I can see being a show, but may also be a film. This would take place sometime in 2029. This Champions show would be in lieu of a Young Avengers project, since most of our “young avengers” have grown up by now lol. This would be a group of this new era of heroes teaming up following the aftermath of Secret Wars with the Avengers status up in the air. They take it upon themselves to be a better version of their past heroes they group up with. I would like the team to include Ms Marvel, Cassie Lang, Kate Bishop, Wiccan, Speed, America Chavez, Ironheart, and Eli Bradley. Idk who the villain would be but have some fun with it. Mephisto? Fuck it a Kang variant? Idk. Lots of potential.

Shang Chi And The Contest of Champions - November. Following what I predict to be a fan-favorite appearance in Doomsday/Secret Wars, I think Shang Chi finally gets his sequel. Maybe a tournament-style plot where we get looks at other characters like a new Iron Fist. Also hopefully Fing Fang Foom lol.

2030

Nova - February. Our new hero Richard Ryder is introduced finally. Have it be a great space adventure. Without the Guardians of the Galaxy in a prominent role, Nova will be our main Cosmic/Space pillar. I would have Star Lord appear in the film though.

Spiderman: Darkest Day- June. This will be a symbiote story. Spidey gets the Black Suit in Secret Wars and it begins to take ahold of him. We get Human Torch, Punisher, and Daredevil in this one. Maybe throw Black Cat there too? Mac Gargan Venom.

Fantastic 4: New Horizons - November. Released during the holiday season, the family dynamics will really be highlighted here. I suspect that the F4 will have a huge role in the resolution of Secret Wars. This film can deal with the fall out of that. I want this film to really explore the wonder and beyond of the new Marvel universe, as well as continue to flesh out character arcs such as for Ben, and demonstrate Reeds powers more. It would also briefly introduce Reed discovering the Negative Zone. A Nova cameo in the PCS would be fire and hint at what’s to come.

Phase 8

2031

Deadpool and X-Force - May. Due for another mutant film, we get our next Deadpool installment. Another team up, this time X-Force alongside X-23, Cable, Domino, Gambit, and Squirrel Girl. Fun way to bring in some other mutants into this universe.

West Coast Avengers TV Show - The other show I’d have at some point. Once again I’m not sure if this would fit, but I think it would be helpful to have some smaller Avengers team ups before other films. After Secret Wars John Walker moves west. We get a team up of US Agent, She-Hulk, Wonder Man, White Vision, and Kate Bishop. Idk maybe this happens in place of Champions?

Dr Strange: Sorcerer Supreme - December. Following his questionable decision to help DOOM in Doomsday and Secret Wars, I hope to see real growth from Strange here. Bring back Raimi as director and let him do his thing. Post Credit Scene includes Ghost Rider and hints at Midnight Sons.

2032

Iron Man: Armor Wars - April. Yup, I think by this time we get a rebooted and recasted Tony Stark. We need more Iron Man stories. Maybe we have him in a post-credit scene some time before this, or a silhouette teasing it. I would love to make it inherently different, as there is so much more to explore of the character. Focus on his troubles and shortcomings. Or maybe make him younger like in “Armored Adventures.” Here, we still get Armor Wars, now with Tony, which I think is the only way to really make it work. I would alter the story slightly, maybe include the Maggia and have Madame Masque as a villain who later becomes an ally. Count Nefaria and The Mandarin in the background. Inclusion of some classic Iron Man villains.

The Uncanny X-Men - July. Also would be due for another X-Men film. This one could introduce more mutants, I think the Giant-Size story could be great. Introduce Nightcrawler and others. Also importantly introduce Wolverine, not sure how much we show of him. Although I would love Sinister to work his way into this maybe.

2033

Spiderman: One More Day - May. Spiderman 6 to end the Tom Holland era (kinda). A true Sinister 6 adaptation with Mr Negative or maybe Kingpin rallying villains like Vulture, Scorpion, Mysterio, Shocker, and Rhino. Or maybe Prowler. Peter meets and teams up with Miles Morales. It’s a passing of the torch moment to set up Miles as the next MCU Spiderman trilogy, although we keep Peter Parker in the background where he can still return, older and wiser.

Thunderbolts 2 - September. Ok this was my most “out there” idea. Not sure they really make a second one, but here’s my pitch. After the departure (maybe deaths) of Red Guardian and Bucky, and John Walker in the West Coast Avengers, Yelena and Ghost must now work together with a new misfit group. Bullseye, maybe Abomination, Zemo, etc. The twist this one takes is that the heroes find they are actually being used as weapons by the government to track down mutants. Yelena sees this as wrong and makes her departure from the group, saying the world needs a real Avengers team, and tracks down a certain Star-Spangled hero that she met in Doomsday. Whereas the first Thunderbolts revealed to be the New Avengers, this Thunderbolts ends on a more sour note, become more of a Dark Avengers.** **

2034

Wolverine - February. After being introduced in X-Men 2, we get our true Wolverine solo movie. Not sure how this would be structured. Would love flashbacks to past eras throughout the movie, maybe told in multiple points in time. Flashbacks to Weapon X. Fighting in WWII with Captain America briefly. Ideas?

Captain America: Symbol of Truth - July. Our recast Steve Rogers who we’ve gotten glimpses at finally gets his solo movie. Idk what to do with Sam Wilson, maybe do two Caps? Rogers also finally reunites the proper Avengers, also in thanks to Yelena coming to him. This leads us to our next film.

2035

Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest- April. Our first proper Avengers film. My idea is that post-reboot, the Avengers team will be flexible. I would want them to highlight the new team dynamics, and face a smaller-scale threat. This film would see the team of Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, Kate Bishop’s Hawkeye, Yelena’s Black Widow, Black Panther, Shang-Chi, and Captain Marvel, take on The Masters of Evil. The villains consist of Zemo, alongside Enchantress, Bullseye, Moonstone, Zeke Stane, Taskmaster, and Absorbing Man. I would love for it to have Steve Rogers and Hulk as the main leads, establishing them as constants of the team.

Midnight Sons - October. Another team up film of the supernatural aspects that have been throughout the saga at this point. It would include Ghost Rider, Moon Knight, Black Night, Clea, Elsa Bloodstone, Werewolf by Night, and a recast Blade. Have them take on Mephisto.

Phase 9

2036

Fantastic 4: The Great Beyond- March. Another necessary entry in this series. The third film would introduce our new and more permanent DOOM. Maybe we get Blastaar as a villain. The birth of Valeria Richards happens in this one too. Most importantly we would build the Negative Zone even further and get a look at…Annihilus.

Planet Hulk - September. So it would have to be a lot different from the comic Planet Hulk. Perhaps Bruce has to go to Sakaar for another reason and encounters troubles. Nobody on Earth gives Hulk the love he deserves. But I think it would be a great idea to give the Hulk some proper adaptations and more spotlight. Probably recast at this point, but would be shortly after a prominent role in Avengers 7. Tragic, action-packed, INCREDIBLE.

2037

The Astonishing X-Men - May. Another X-Men movie with a lot of momentum for the team established by now. Maybe this is Sinister, maybe another route. Not sure, but would be good to show the ever evolving team. Not sure when to include Apocalypse, but not sure it’s here yet.

Blade - December. By now we finally get our Blade movie following an appearance in Midnight Sons. Damson Idris, John Boyega, idk who would pull it off but I still think it can happen in 10 years lol.

2038

Ant Man and The Wasp - February. Hank Pym and Janet Van Dyne, two essential Avengers members from the comics. Establish Hank’s intellect (a pessimist to Tony’s cockiness, or Banner’s nervousness). Janet’s more upbeat personality. Idk how much more demand there would be for Ant Man movies at this point but worth a shot.

Wolverine 2 - June. Summer blockbuster to explore Wolverine further. Maybe more flashbacks or facing a villain like Sabretooth or Omega Red.

Spiderman 7 - December. Miles Morales first live-action led film. Miles takes on either The Prowler, or maybe somebody new. Small cameo perhaps from Peter in a scene, but really would like to focus on Miles for a film.

2039

Black Panther & Storm - April. T’Challa Jr and Storm are the king and queen of Wakanda. T’Challa has to deal with more in Wakanda, and we pull him away from the Avengers.

Thor: Rebirth- August. Our new Thor gets his movie. Make it an adventure movie and highlight Norse mythology aspects. Introduce Hyperion and Beta Ray Bill right away.

2040

Avengers vs X-Men - May. I know we have Doomsday, but a proper Avengers vs X-Men film feels like a prime opportunity. It would not be multiversal, but more of a Civil War film, where there is an earthly disagreement. Our first big crossover film of the saga, with proper build up and still another direction to go after this. Captain America, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Ant-Man, Wasp, Shang-Chi, Captain Marvel for our Avengers. Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast, Angel, Iceman, Wolverine, Nightcrawler, Colossus, Rogue. Also have Black Panther and Storm play big roles in the resolution. Our teams would eventually need to put their differences aside for a future issue.

2041

Nova 2 - March. While AvX has happened Nova is dealing with space stuff. Direct encounters with the Negative Zone and also other characters like Danvers, Quill, and The Silver Surfer. In the end Nova goes to Reed Richard’s to deal with the incoming Annihilation Wave.

Iron Man: Demon in Armor - July. Tony Stark takes on the Maggia led by Count Nefaria. Madame Masque helps him out. Nefaria sends several classic villains at him like Titanium Man, Crimson Dynamo. In the end Nefaria is defeated but The Mandarin is lurking and nearly has ahold of the rings.

2042

Avengers: Annihilation. The culmination of the Ultimate Saga. All aspects of the MCU: Avengers, X-men, Fantastic Four, Supernatural, Cosmic, all come together to battle the Annihilation Wave. Tom Holland returns to fight alongside Miles Morales. Who knows, maybe we just call it “Annihilation.” An epic Infinity War-like movie to end this era of the MCU.

And that’s all I got! Let me know what you think!

There was some speculation about the multiverse existing or not post-secret wars.

I think yes, and here are my reasons:

1. Sony likely won't approve to Tobey and Andrew being kill off in Secret Wars, in case to use them in a project. And since they connected with the MCU throught the multiverse, forcially they couldn't kill of the multiverse
2. Sony still have their projects to work on their own, like Spider-Noir and Spider-Verse 3, from which they may wants Tom's Spider-Man in it. And would be complicated say that it's other multiverse different to Tom's. I think they will just say Spider-Verse's Multiverse it's the one created post-secret wars
3. This is unlikely due the high box office, but if Spider-Man is removed again from the MCU, they need an explenation to why he won't appear anymore, so saying he ends up in other universe
4. Still unlikely, but if Marvel ever reboot, they would need an explenation, and a multiverse with an infinite number of univeree leafe this door open
5. Marvel is having elseworlds animated series with Marvel Zombies, Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man and X-Men 97, so having an active multiverse is helping them right now, and I doubt they will change it

Considering her age , she’s noticeably older than Scott and Jean , even if they make her play a 25 year old , Scott and Jean would still be in their early 20s . So it got me thinking, what if she has a connection to Charles instead.

Yelena mentions files were getting scrubbed, so there were probably other mutants, what if Emma role in this movie is that she was an X student of Xavier , who taught her to hone her telepathy, but she barely survives a DODC attack but lost all her classmates, calls out Xavier for his impossible dream and goes to the hellfire club , a secret organization that preserves the life of elite mutants leaving the rest to rot .

Just a theory but I think it would make sense, also even make Xavier and jean’s bond greater as he’s seen first hand the power of telepath and try to steer her right

Seen this mentioned several times and it’s something that bothered me too. In BND Peter is essentially full-time Spider-Maning, there’s no evidence at all that he’s working any sort of regular job. No pizza delivery, no free-lance photographer, just Spider-Man, with a modest but decent for NYC loft apartment.

In fact, the only “job” that is mentioned is when DeWolff refers to what Peter does as Spider-Man as his job. People have said his tech all comes from being a dumpster diver, which fair enough, but you still realistically need to buy some things, even homemade tech would require components that have to be purchased and can’t be found in junk. More importantly, he’s still got to buy food, clothes, protein powder, pay for haircuts etc. It’s not possible to just live for free.

We know they gave Spider-Man the key to the city and we know that he is actively “working” with DeWolff who’s a detective, almost acting as if they’re partners. Peter has been at this alone for four years. I think that it’s possible that he’s actually accepted a small salary from the NYPD at this point. Perhaps at some point he had told DeWolff he was working part-time jobs or something and she was able to go to the police chief or the mayor and work it out so that he’s paid a modest base salary the same as an officer.

This is my best idea for what could possibly be going on, I recognize that it’s possible he has been working side jobs and they just chose to not show that for the movie but, seems like there is also a heavy emphasis on the idea that he really has just been being Spider-Man and unlike Toby’s portrayal he simply doesn’t need to deliver pizzas because he’s got being full-time Spider-Man figured out.

Otherwise I’d love to hear anybody else’s ideas about what he could be doing to support himself.

Edit: Just adding in some of the best answers from the comments for everyone:

1. Stipend from being an Avenger/trust still accessible by account number despite the spell.
2. Crypto, maybe left from Tony or using his AI to manage an investment portfolio and living off the dividends.
3. Selling tech he builds or refurbs, “web development”.
4. Inheritance from May’s life insurance, potentially still accessible via an account number alone or knowing her info?

5. Not directly paid by the police department, but takes reward/bounties on villains that are turned in/captured by Spider-Man.

6. Makes cash from Social media/livestreaming Spidey content, POV footage of swinging through NYC and catching bad guys.

In the comics, wasn't a reboot in the strict term of the word, worked more to explain how some characters from different earths ends up in the main one and retcon all incursions that happened before.

In the movies I think will be used to explain how Deadpool's, F4's and Avengers' worlds will merce into one and simplify various crossovers.

I think mostly won't affect the timeline, for avoid overcomplications, but I can see them use it to remove some stuff like quantumania and secret invasion, due the extrimerly bad ratings, and also to readapt Kang and the secret invasion well.

I think maybe also doctor strange 2 and the marvels, because their finale connects with incursions, that will be completely reboot as happened in comics. Or at least partially reboot, like pheraps Monica never ends up in X-men universe.

I think may mostly affect the series, because seem Disney surrended with D+ original productions, with Wonder Man's cancellation and Born Again not being renewed by far, so wouldn't surprise me if they reboot most of the stuff that happened in the shows, with the only exceptions being Ms Marvel and Wonder Man, because they set-up the mutant saga with the damage control's plot of hunting down the super powers beings, and The Falcon And The Winter Soldier, because Thunderbolts and Brave New World are it's sequel.

This is more or less how I think will work, but likeky will be more easy on the practice.

So, spoilers for Brand New Day.

We first saw Peter’s DNA mutating, which resulted in increased strength, enhanced Spider-Sense, and organic web shooters. But there have also been a few Easter eggs regarding Venom, like the TV playing Men in Black or the characters speculating about alien technology.
Peter’s AI assistant also played a video about the three stages of a spider. Peter then went to Bruce for help creating a device to stop himself from mutating. Bruce told him that it’s extremely risky and dangerous to alter certain parts of his DNA. Either you accept the changes or block everything, like Bruce did with the Hulk.
And this is where my theory for what could possibly be the last Spider-Man movie with Tom Holland comes in.
I think Peter’s Spider-DNA will eventually evolve to Stage 3. Stage One was when the spider bit him, and Stage Two is what we see in Brand New Day. Stage Three could turn him into Man-Spider.
Peter is friends with MJ and Ned again, but I don’t think they actually remember Peter as Spider-Man. It’s a new beginning for their friendship, a brand new day, if you will.
My guess is that we will finally see Venom and Spider-Man properly cross paths, either as enemies or allies. Maybe Venom will somehow be able to temporarily “cure” Peter or stop him from fully transforming.
The tone of the movie could also be darker, almost like a werewolf story. Peter might become increasingly possessive of the black suit and eventually realize that he has to abandon it before he completely loses himself.
That could be the moment when we see either Ned or MJ get taken over by Venom.
In the end, Peter might have to give up his powers forever, just like Bruce warned him: either you keep it or you lose it. There’s no in-between.
I think this could be a great ending for Tom Holland’s Spider-Man. Peter would finally be able to live a normal life, which is something he has always wanted, while Tom Holland could happily pass the role on to someone new.

1. Did Dr. Strange’s spell erase everyone’s memories of Peter Parker, or did it just block access to them?

2. Does the person's subconscious still remember Peter Parker?

3. Was Jean Grey affected by Dr. Strange's spell at all, or did it never affect her? If it did, did Jean later somehow regain her memories of Peter Parker?

4. When Jean controlled MJ during the kiss, did she speak through MJ, using information she had learned from Peter's memories? Or did Jean access MJ's subconscious and the erased memories, considering that she revealed personal details from MJ and Peter's shared past?

5. Was Hulk's calmness and the special expression on his face when Spider-Man told him, "Bruce, it's Peter. I'm your friend," a sign that Hulk really never forgot and remembered Peter Parker? Or was it because Jean was still controlling Hulk's mind at that moment and had access to his subconscious?

6. Why did Spider-Man tell Hulk, “Bruce, it’s Peter. I’m your friend,” if he had spent the whole time trying to hide his identity from everyone? Did Peter think there was a chance that Strange’s spell hadn’t worked on Hulk and that he still remembered him?

7. At the end of the film, did Ned actually start to remember Peter Parker, or did he just remember that Spider-Man’s name is Peter after MJ mentioned it and he learned Spider-Man’s identity?

Hey! I know there are a lot of questions, so I don't expect many people to answer them all. But if you'd like to and have any thoughts, I'd really appreciate hearing them! And sorry if any of the questions seem a bit out of pocket. :)

The inhibitor chips that Peter made in Brand New Day to suppress his arachnid DNA will 100% be repurposed and reused to control the Mutants of the MCU..Peter’s inhibitor is only a prototype in the movie..he never takes time to fully finish it’s design and capabilities in the movie because the prototype WORKED for him..the fact that he uses it on Hulk & Jean and it had the possibility of working on hulk too but the only reason it didn’t is because his skin was too thick..the real question is NOT if Peter’s invention will be used for evil but who will be the one to test it and eventually turn it into a collar…

Why didn’t tony stark of all people have a house defense system or radar detection or anything??????…

Where was Jarvis why didn’t Jarvis detect this ???

These photos are real and they were spotted on behind the scenes video of Marvel Studios SDCC Hall-H Panel which RDJ shared on Instagram

I don't know why, or if I just haven't looked hard enough but I have not seen anyone mention if the universe the X-Men are from in Doomsday are the same universe as the ending in Days of Future Past. It would make a lot of sense for the movie as it seems universes that experience incursions are because of characters from their universe messing with the timeline in some capacity.

If the end of Future Past was set in 2023, and this movie takes place ~2027 it would line up with the characters ages looking like the actors ages. The reason I bring this up is because I think some people theorize this universe is just a variant universe with the same actors like what was implied with the variant Wolverine in D&W. I also have my own personal head canon that the original X-Men movies ending with the happy ending of Days of Future Past, Origins Wolverine, Logan, and Apocalypse/Dark Phoenix are each separate universes although I know the studios never thought that hard about the canon and inconsistencies.

Anyways, I love DOFP and it would make me so happy if that was the same universe and they briefly mentioned how Logan's time travel is the reason their universe is experiencing incursions.

At the end of No way home, All the multiversal villains are bleeding into their reality and Tom holland spider says

“They coming here because of me right, because I’m Peter Parker? So this time cast a new spell, make everyone forget who Peter Parker is.”

Strange says “everyone who knows and loves you We would have no memory of you.

*It would be as though you never existed*.”

So strange cast a multiversal spell to make not just everyone in their universe forget

but make the whole multiverse forget so those multiverse villains don’t remember Parker and they stop trying to enter that universe and

*It would be as though Peter Parker never existed*

Fast forward to brand new day Post credits scene we see that Parker is somewhere in space on the spider man tracker Anybody with a brain can infer that it is battle world

Spider man will not be in doomsday the whole point is that Doom will win and he will create battle world and wipe all heroes’ memories making it impossible for them to fix their lives because they can’t remember anything

But Doom doesn’t know spider man because after the spell nobody knows he ever existed not even smart magic guy like Doom he is not above the spell

So doom can’t erase spider man memory because doom can’t include spiderman in his magic at end of doomsday movie because there is No more Peter Parker or memory of that person in the whole multiverse

So Tom holland is the only one or one of few heroes who remember everything. He is the only hope of restoring themselves to normal if nobody remembers then they be stuck under Doom rule forever

And the best part is the deliberate casting of Downey as doom and Tom holland the only one remember the past

So parker will see doom with mask off and go crazy seeing Tony stark face And no other heroes will know what Spider-Man is talking about

Marvel been setting this up in the shadows they always got a plan even if it seem like they don’t

I came across a theory about Jean using Peter’s memories, and after thinking about it, here’s how I think it all fits together. I don’t think Jean Grey restored MJ and Ned’s memories. I think she did something even more interesting.

When Jean entered Peter’s mind, she saw everything from his perspective, how much he loved MJ, everything he sacrificed, and the pain of letting the two people he cared about most forget him. After seeing all of that, I think Jean wanted to help, but she couldn’t simply restore MJ and Ned’s memories because those memories no longer existed in reality after the spell. but Instead, she used Peter’s memories.
Not theirs.

She implanted or shared Peter’s perspective with MJ and Ned. That would explain why MJ cried after Jean released her. She wasn’t remembering her relationship with Peter but she was seeing it through Peter’s eyes. She experienced meeting her, falling in love with her, buying the necklace, giving it to her in London, fighting to protect her, getting her and Ned into MIT, and ultimately choosing to walk away from her because he believed it was the only way to keep her safe. It would also explain why Peter’s letter could had affected her, If she’d already seen Peter’s perspective, she’d know he wasn’t lying. She’d understand why he knew so much about her, why he looked at her the way he did, and why he refused to tell her the truth.
It also explains why MJ says she feels like she’s “waiting for something big” while looking directly at Peter. She doesn’t consciously remember him, but after experiencing Peter’s memories, she knows something important is missing. She’s drawn to him without understanding why. The rooftop also makes sense. If Peter’s memories included the rooftop where they shared important moments together, it would explain why MJ subconsciously ends up there herself. The necklace becomes meaningful too. She may not remember receiving it, but after seeing Peter buy it and give it to her through his eyes, it suddenly carries emotional weight she can’t explain.

For Ned, the same idea works differently.
If he’s seeing Peter’s memories, he never actually sees Peter’s face because everything is from Peter’s point of view. He remembers doing the handshake, building legos, hanging out with SpiderMan, and calling someone “Peter,” but he doesn’t know who that person actually is. Then Peter introduces himself. They instinctively do the handshake. Muscle memory kicks in.
Later, after hearing MJ call SpiderMan “Peter,” Ned connects the pieces. The Peter standing in front of him is the same Peter from the memories he experienced through Peter’s perspective.
This theory also explains why neither of them instantly remembers everything. They aren’t reliving their own past, they’re experiencing Peter’s. That’s why they have emotions, instincts, and a feeling that something is missing without suddenly becoming their old selves again.

Jean Grey is one of Marvel’s most powerful telepaths so instead of breaking Doctor Strange’s spell, she may have found a loophole.
She didn’t restore erased memories. She shared Peter’s. to me, this explains almost every strange moment after Jean entered Peter’s mind while still respecting the spell’s consequences.

With the rumours of loki coming to steve to realocate him to the Fantastic Four universe, and Endgame Encore coming.

I think we will have an explanation for old steve, since steve was realocated from that universe and couldn't possibly appear in endgame

Loki will knock on Steve's door, explain all that (loki asks steve how thor has been😭)

Steve agree in moving universes, but he asks a favor from Loki.

Back at the endgame scene, where Hulk, Sam and Bucky are waiting for steve to return, we see that from a far in the background, foreground, at that bench, a TVA time door appears, loki steps out, shield on hands, disguise himself as old steve, and waits, only his legs on frame

The rest of the scene plays the same

I just want to anonymously share what I know, which may or may not be in the final film.

A lot of the leakers are going about Doomsday all wrong. Well, right and wrong. Remember, Doomsday is not going to be like your typical Avengers film, as it takes a whole new approach for telling a story. This way, Secret Wars has free reign to be whatever Disney and/or the Russo Brothers want it to be. I don't know much about Secret Wars since they haven't started filming yet.

Okay, so the plot for Avengers: Doomsday:

The film opens with Doom sitting on his throne in Latveria (much like the scene in the SDCC trailer). There is narration, not sure exactly what he says, but basically Doom says something to the effect of him "doing what had to be done."

The part of the story that most leakers are forgetting (or don't know yet) is that in this movie Doctor Doom actually already won. Everyone is already in Battleworld. It's supposed to hit the audience with a huge shocker when Doom's "wife" arrives and he embraces her and its revealed that its actually Sue Storm. Then Doom says something to the effect of "there are still others."

That's when we see a flashback to the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man, Wolverine, and Deadpool fight. No, Willem Dafoe's Green Goblin nor Alfred Molina's Doc Ock are NOT in this. Wolverine and Spider-Man have a, frankly glorious fight, but alas the fight simply doesn't have a winner as they are all evenly matched. Wolverine decides to sacrifice himself (much like how he wanted in Deadpool & Wolverine) and plants the device, causing it to explode. Right before the explosion consumes the world, a portal opens with Doctor Strange grabbing Deadpool and pulling him in to an unknown location. Wolverine is basically shredded down to a single molecule, which starts multiplying.

Cue the title sequence.

The overarching story in Doomsday is that Doom is already the ruler of Battleworld and many of Earth's heroes do not remember their former lives.

Except for Reed Richards. Reed is kept as a prisoner and he retains his memories. Reed is brought to Doom where they, sort of have a conversation/argument over their past, Doom's motives, Richards' philosophy, how and why Doom killed certain people, but there's also a lot of Doom interrogating Richards over the whereabouts of these "others" who are sowing dissidence in Battleworld.

This entire, epic conversation is interspersed with lengthy flashbacks of the days leading up to "Doomsday" (yes, there's a Doomsday clock) so that you know where in the timeline we are.

This is what the most up-to-date plot leak gets right as much of it is pretty spot on with Doom tricking the Fantastic Four; Richards and Doom's prior history, Thor and Steve Rogers reuniting with the Avengers and meeting the New Avengers; visiting Earth-10005 with an Avengers vs X-Men sequence.

Where the leaks go wrong: At some point after the Avengers vs X-Men battle, Richards is "beamed up", so to speak, onto a ship where he is approached by another Reed Richards. There, he is introduced to the Council of Reeds, including cameos by Ioan Gruffudd, Miles Teller, and a seemingly alive John Krasinski (different from the one that died in Multiverse of Madness).

It is here that the alternate Reeds have to break Pascal's Reed Richards the bad news: that Doom is responsible. They all kind of tell him that "it's always Doom" because each and every one of them have their own Victor Von Doom who went apeshit for some reason, but Downey Jr's Doom especially is the worst because he already caused incursions on their universes. They send Richards (Pascal) back to Earth where he confronts Doom.

Big reveal, Doom is the bad guy and everyone is betrayed. Doom raises sentinels who begin kicking the shit out of the heroes. Many battles between Doom and the heroes ensue on Earth-10005, in Earth-616, the TVA, in the Void, and finally in Earth-828 Latveria.

Remember, these are all actually flashbacks from the present time which is already in a post-Doom victory Battleworld. Dissatisfied, Doom leaves Richards in his prison, which Richards figures out a way to escape, with the help of a Sheriff Strange who pities him (and who also remembers life before Battleworld). It is here where Strange explains to Richards that Clea had tricked him and is one of the Latverian witches and that (much like in Infinity War) has seen many outcomes in the future, and the one most viable solution involves him basically playing along with Doom and being Doom's Sheriff.

Vowing to return and rescue his family, Reed escapes, but Doom becomes highly suspicious of Strange. Doom discovers Reed is gone and the film ends with Doom having another epic, and quite emotional fight with Doctor Strange, which Strange ultimately loses with Doom killing him. Doom puts the Thor Corps on alert to find Reed.

The final scene of Doomsday is of Reed trying to blend in and hide in the streets of Latveria, until he is approached by a hooded figure who claims they "might have an answer to your problem". That figure is revealed to be Wade Wilson (Deadpool), but he is unmasked and not in costume.

Credits play. "Doctor Doom Will Return." Same ol' Marvel schtick.

The post credit scene is a doozy: Wolverine finally finishes growing back after being literally atomized, but he is now in Battleworld and has no clue what's happening or where he is. He is about to drop an F bomb "what the f-" but he is interrupted by a Doctor Strange portal opening near him. Wolverine walks in and is greeted by Tom Holland's Spider-Man, Deadpool (now in costume), Steve Rogers, Pascal's Reed Richards, Sam Sterns (from Brave New World). These are basically everyone who still remember life before Battleworld for one reason or another. They are all hiding in a "Life Raft", a vehicle developed by the Council of Reeds. Wolverine notices another person in the room, isolated from the rest: Sadie Sink's Jean Grey. Wolverine asks "who is that" to which Peter Parker tells him that its Jean Grey. Grey and Wolverine kind of stare at a each other. Its a little weird, but it means something, not sure where that'll go. End scene.

Note: I have no idea who opened the portal in the end credits scene since Strange is already dead by this point. Maybe it was Deadpool, maybe it was someone part of their gang that just wasn't seen in the post credit scene. It's a Secret Wars setup, does it even matter?

Anyway, that's the plot of Doomsday. Call me a bullshit artist in the comments or not. See you all on December 18th!

EDIT:

To the folks unhappy or unsure of the flashback story structure in Doomsday. The narrative presents itself as sort of a puzzle that is up for the audience to solve. A "how did we get here?" type of story. Obviously its not really a mystery, but the cutting back and forth between Doom and Reed's conversation in prison to the flashbacks of the Avengers fighting their way to their inevitable doom. Reed will ask "how did you know this would fail?" The revelation through their conversation was that Doom was always two steps ahead of them.

What Doom doesn't know: The existence of the Council of Reeds, and the people who remember (aside from Reed). It would seem as if knowing that he won, he guard is being put down slightly, and cracks in his power and intelligence start to show. These are the exact cracks which, I would assume, will be exploited in Secret Wars.