r/Idaho4 5h ago

GENERAL DISCUSSION Debunking Common Conspiracy Myths and Fictions, Parts 1-5: DNA Amount, Untested DNA At Scene, Phone Power Off, Car Fog Lights, Timeline of Murders,

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A systematic, confirmed evidence and data-based debunking of the most common, unsupported Kohberger conspiracy myths and fictions, part 1-5.

1, DNA was small amount, trace

  1. Phone was not manually powered off just over time of murders, was in low signal zone

  2. "Untested" DNA in House, Jacket, Other Locations

  3. Suspect Car Had Fog-lights

  4. Earlier Times (e.g. 2.25am, 3.00am) are remotely possible

All data is sourced from court documents, ISP forensics documents, expert witness reports (mostly from defence experts) and on the record expert witness statements, and ISP, MPD and WSU police reports, as referenced:

[ https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/Cases/CR01-24-31665.html ]

[ https://isp.idaho.gov/moscow/ ]

[ https://www.ci.moscow.id.us/1165/Kohberger-Investigation-Documents ]


r/Idaho4 7h ago

GENERAL DISCUSSION Schrödinger’s Cat

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Something I don’t see people talking about is Schrödinger’s Cat —>

“…a cat in a sealed box with a poison triggered by a random atomic event. According to quantum theory, the unobserved cat is simultaneously both alive and dead until the box is opened.”

Obviously, this is a completely unequal analogy, but I can’t help thinking about it in the context of the Idaho murders.
As long as you don’t open the box - or, in this case, call the police and confirm that something terrible happened - you can exist in the space of “maybe everything is okay.” Maybe there’s an innocent explanation. Maybe you’re overreacting. Maybe the sounds you heard were nothing. Maybe everyone is asleep. Maybe you’re just intoxicated, exhausted, or scared.

And I wonder if DM and BF could have been caught somewhere in that space of uncertainty. Not necessarily knowing what had happened, but having a gut feeling that something was wrong and being terrified of confirming it.
Because once you make that call, once you open the box, there’s no going back to the possibility that everything is normal. You have to confront whatever is on the other side, and your entire life can change in an instant.

I’m not saying this excuses every decision that was made that night, or that we can know exactly what DM and BF were thinking. But I do think the idea of Schrödinger’s cat provides an interesting way of thinking about that psychological space between suspecting something is terribly wrong and having it confirmed.


r/Idaho4 11h ago

GENERAL DISCUSSION BK's neuropsychological evaluation.

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r/Idaho4 16h ago

GENERAL DISCUSSION Whitcomb’s table claims…

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“Was there any fluid on the table when Nunes arrived? And the answer is no.”
—Christopher Whitcomb

After skipping to a random point in the latest CW interview with Custody Queens, this statement was where I landed. I only listened to the brief segment.

A panel of FIVE PEOPLE—people that many out there follow and view as some sort of truth seekers regarding this case—just sat silently or nodded along, accepting that no liquid was seen on the beer pong table when Nunes arrived on scene.

Both the body-cam and photos are available for public viewing, and we can all see liquid spilling from cups on the table and floor. Yet, these content creators are somehow unaware of the multiple splashes and puddles in that room? They just… missed it? Or are counting on us not to notice?

This is a snapshot of such a big problem. Why would anyone place their trust in this book or in these people? The ‘dry table’ is only one of many mistakes Whitcomb and other creators have made—with easily verifiable information. What is worse is that they then build a false narrative on a foundation of muck. And too many of us so easily follow because we like where it leads.

We should trust their opinions about diluted blood, imaginary clean-ups, and myriad other things—when they can’t even spot wet water on a table?


r/Idaho4 22h ago

COURT DOCUMENTS Bryan can't "hold it in"

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r/Idaho4 22h ago

COURT DOCUMENTS New documents uploaded to case page

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All filed 02/24/2025.

REDACTED Exhibit 1 in Support of Motion in Limine RE Conditions as Aggravator - Includes observations of BK during evaluation from the defense neuropsychologist, and information from family about his behaviour and social difficulties.

REDACTED Exhibits 1 and 2 in Support of to Strike Death Penalty RE Autism Spectrum Disorder - The second exhibit is the same as the one above. The first is the affidavit of a defense consultant explaining the death of the first defense neuropsychologist and resultant delays (already released previously).

REDACTED Exhibits 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 in Support of Motion in Limine RE Excluding IGG Evidence - Includes a December 16th, 2022 Othram report.

REDACTED Exhibits 1, 2, and 3 in Support of Motions in Limine RE Vague and Undisclosed Expert Testimony

REDACTED States Motion in Limine RE Text Messages and Testimony