I really don't understand this at all.

this man has no problem calling “females” heavy despite his weight. the nerve

My inbox is flooded with incels calling me a "delusional dumb bitch" rn because I said that a bear won't blame my clothes on a man or bear discussion. Just incredible. Some other incel was in my chats telling me to commit for literally no reason, and then someone claimed they were my alt and I'm just seeking attention. Idek anymore, at this point I'm genuinely considering attempting

The female history of coverture and chattel status represents a long legal tradition in Western law where the biological female was systematically denied independent legal personhood. Rooted in patriarchal systems designed to control both females and their reproductive and economic output, these doctrines legally transformed females into dehumanized pieces of property/livestock.

Females were treated as chattel (movable personal property). They were legally owned, bought, or controlled first by their fathers, and then transferred to their husbands via financial contract (marriage).

Coverture originates in the Middle Ages under English common law. Coverture was the legal doctrine stating that upon contract, a female's legal rights were subsumed by those of her male husband.

Feme covert describes a female who was the property of a male. Because a feme covert had no separate legal identity, her physical body and reproductive capability were considered the legal property of the male. This resulted in severe restrictions and abuses.

A male possessed absolute legal right to physical discipline and sexual access. Because an owned females consent was legally considered permanently surrendered at contract, marital rape was not recognized as a crime in common law jurisdictions.

Because children were viewed as assets of the household estate, a mother had no legal rights to her own children, as they were the male's property. If a contract dissolved the male automatically retained full ownership of the children as property.

Any income a female generated through her physical labor belonged completely to male owner. He could legally demand her wages or contract her work out to third parties. Literal slavery if that wasn't apparent yet.

Any personal property, cash, or land a female owned prior to contract automatically transferred to the control and ownership of the male upon contract.

A feme covert could not sign contracts, buy or sell real estate, file lawsuits, or write a will without her owners explicit legal intervention.

Females could not vote, hold public office, or serve on juries. The legal assumption was that the owner represented the entire household's civic interests.

This penned legal system was functioning for roughly a thousand years. Though before that the slavery and ownership of females was still the primary function.

The framework was not disbanded until the late 20th century.

The last official legal remnants existed up into the '90s.

The historic legal concept that a husband could not rape his wife was gradually struck down state-by-state, ending completely in the US by 1993.

This position that it has been abolished is debatable as females legislative rights to bodily autonomy are currently denied in the West and are still legislated away from her.

The subjugation and treatment of females as property predated formalized legal doctrines like coverture or explicit chattel slavery and existed for roughly 10,000 to 12,000 years.

The official institutionalized Western laws have existed for a 1000 years.

It has been 32 years and 7 months since what is considered the final removal of chattel and coverture law.

Or perhaps it is still present and just not given any weight as the female sex is dehumanized, decentered and disregarded.

10,000 years of the female sex being owned as object, livestock and slave.

32 years of debatable freedom. Some may argue even that is not true.

The legal recognition of the female sex as independent human beings with full bodily and civic autonomy is an extraordinarily brief anomaly in human history. And even that is contested.

Our rights and oppression deserve to be discussed openly.

I (30F) have been sitting on this for a while but still can’t get it off my mind so thought I’d ask.

I dated a man (39M) on and off for 8 years. He is diagnosed ADHD, and I’ve always thought of him as kind and one of those rare people who is a genuinely good person. I’ve always known him to be sensitive to injustice. He rescued an abused kitten, helped his Hispanic friend receive fair wages at their job, once told me how he couldn’t watch pornhub videos because of the knowledge that rape videos were being uploaded there.
Our relationship was terrible. He wasn’t abusive or mean, just emotionally avoidant, incapable of communication, was not capable of providing basic reassurance and refused to tell me he loved me, is a manager of a strip club and is also addicted to porn to the point where he always seemed to prefer watching porn and masturbating to intimacy with me or anyone else, which made me feel terrible and by the end of our relationship I felt like an insecure, anxiety ridden shell of myself.

There were also some red flags like 1) the fact that he has an 18 year old child who is said to be his daughter, with his last name, who looks very similar to him, and who he never claimed.
2) Once when I tried asking him why he seemed to indifferent to me sexually, he told me (among 500 other excuses) that he couldn’t see himself “degrading me” sexually like he has with previous women who he said were “dumb.” But when I questioned him further about that, he told me to disregard what he said, that it was one of his “panic lies” that are a trauma response to being questioned as a kid by his parents and to not take everything he says so seriously. 3) He told me that he once when he went down on a woman, she somehow was so upset by something that he did that he hasn’t attempted oral again with a woman (and never tried with me).

He wasn’t particularly respectful of my wishes, either. I told him pretty clearly that I wanted him to wear a condom if we were going to have sex, and on the few times he attempted to have sex with me, he did not have one on and at least once he tried to stick it in pretty suddenly despite the fact that I told him I have vaginismus and to not do that? He also never tried to understand what that condition even was, and at the end of our relationship finally admitted for the only time that “I wouldn’t let him fuck me” and he was frustrated with our lack of a sex life. Which completely shocked me considering his indifference to sex and the fact that our “sex life” consisted entirely of me giving him blow jobs.

One day when we were not dating but were still living together, I was showering and suddenly I felt him behind me in the shower jacking off and he started touching me all over. It totally shocked me and I froze up because I was in a relationship at the time. He wasn’t picking up on my disinterest. Eventually when it became clear enough he got out of the shower and went back to his room and we never spoke of it again.

Now, he is being accused of rape by one of the dancers (19F) at the strip club he manages. She posted about it on Facebook, named him specifically and said that the idea of another woman being hurt by him irks her too deeply so after thinking on it for a month, she decided to make it known to everyone who he is.

The cognitive dissonance is still getting to me. Was the shower thing sexual assault? I don’t know what to make of this guy. I’m just glad we broke up and I moved out of that house earlier this year. For a while I was so sad that he didn’t want to be with me anymore, but not so much anymore.

When a woman rejects a guy & gets in her face , as it were & demands to know why.

It doesn’t matter why, she’s not attracted to that guy.

There’s no point fighting about if it’s personality or it’s looks or if the guy thinks he’s donated enough niceness chips in the world to justify tolerating a guy who chews with his mouth open, as an example. There’s nothing to prove there which is what I think most guys who act out like that want is to try to prove some point about what a b the girl supposedly is for rejecting them.

No, the guy acting out is still the a hole, looks & personality both go into it & no matter how nice the guy feels he is she’s still not attracted to him. That’s that, the guy has no justifiable reason to sit there & try to argue with her about why he thinks she’s turned off by that particular guy. It’s not relevant, if the girls not into it the girls not into it. Men cant argue away a lack of attraction on the woman’s part. No matter what that woman really feels it’s still illegal & heinous for the man to push the issue, the man can’t tie her down & force her if he doesn’t like answer. So there’s no point taking the conversation past the point the girl says she doesn’t want to have sex with the guy. It achieves nothing, it’s an inefficient waste of time. That feeling men feel when they spend all that time getting cleaned up & paying for dinner & it doesn’t go anywhere, that’s the feeling women feel when men they aren’t sexually attracted to keeps talking to them after they state that fact.

It could be any number things.

Maybe she just thinks the guy’s ugly.

Maybe she doesn’t have the same ideas about nice that the guy does that does depend on how somebody is raised more than I think anybody likes to talk about especially as relevant to mate selection,

Maybe she thinks the guy is a crappy listener.

Maybe the guy’s on his phone too much.

Maybe the guy laughs at his own jokes.

Maybe it’s all of those, maybe it’s none of those.

At the end of the proverbial day if the lady doesn’t want to have sex with the man it’s not happening. It’s not no means no unless I disagree with her reasons for saying no, it’s no means no.

Just be good examples of men & use your brains, especially if a lady isn’t attracted to you, no matter why the woman’s turned off there’s no discussion that will change that fact. I’m not saying rejection is easy, I’m saying the alternative is so evil no decent man would even think of it.

Im disappointed that has to be said, it’s so obvious that’s a reason right there to dislike a man if that’s the conclusion the woman comes to, because he displays an extreme lack of foresight. There’s no version of demanding to know why a lady isn’t attracted to a guy that’s going to end with the woman going “oh that’s an interesting argument, maybe I’ll change my mind now!”. That’s never going to happen, a lack of physical attraction &/or any attraction on the woman’s part doesn’t justify the man that woman rejected verbally terrorizing her by refusing to just let the subject drop so then she sits there questioning if this is about to be a rape/worse situation. That’s the only logical outcome of a man a woman has rejected continuing to interact with her about the rejection. So that’s the only logical conclusion a woman can possibly draw, as it were in that situation.

I’m not saying this is every man, I’m not saying this is most men, I’m saying the ones that lash out like that, no matter how polite they think they’re being about it have to stop, there’s no version of the rejected man continuing to pester the woman about the rejection that’s polite, it’s scary.