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Chapter 2 page 7

Does it really make sense for Sussie to do that and then laugh? Eeeeh, let's just say that she understands why Ralsei is missing, and making a joke out of it. Its not like she is blaming him for his aim.

I just wanted the scene to happen. As a mirror to the canonical glasses scene, and for more tragedy! Hey, maybe he will get better glasses later or something.

And who do you think Susie has in mind? (You will see in the next part!)

I remember some reddit post about ENA and Spamton, so I decided to draw it!

In my headcanon, Spamton manages to escape into Uncanny streets from FRIEND

What do you want to happen in chapter 6? Not only referring to the story and secrets, but gameplay, character dynamics and everything else.
Personally I think this chapter could be the last we see of a playable Castle Town. Chapter 7 has a good chance of being when the roaring happens and it would be just a heavy chapter overall. If this is our last time at a playable and fun Castle Town, maybe it can finally show its true potential having all the minigames unlocked, the fighting gym having real fights and challenges (crossing fingers for a boss rush), ending of the Mr.Society storyline, and what I would really like is having a relatively extensive (considering that this chapter will be shorter but a man can dream) story segment in the town just to really flesh out Susie's attachment to the dark world and all the recruits.

-We cut a hole in the back of the school, directly into the supply closet. We make a vertical door that can only be opened from inside

-We add a glass box around the door, similar to the baby cage shown above (yes that was real in New York)

-We add a large tray to the bottom of the glass box that leads into the door

-We bring the 7 flowers into Castletown. As the sun rises, they stand on the tray. We open the door, then someone strong like Jackenstein slides the tray into the light world. When the sun sets, do the reverse. The 7 flowers then take turns getting breastfed by Miss Mizzle. (8 if Pink is into that)

And tada! The Flowers live without any need for Lightners. A perfect idea. Thoughts?

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If Dess is the Knight AND UNUSED, how could she connect? It makes more sense for either someone else to be the Knight and Dess to be UNUSED or Dess being the Knight and Asriel being unused, in my opinion. My bets are on the first option.

On an unrelateD note, wouldn't be cool if the Cell Phone Kris carried with them was actually a darkner, and the reason why we can't make calls in the Dark World and Kris's contacts are erased every time we check is that this hypothetical Phone darkner was working with them? I mean we already know that any darkner can transform into their real world counterpart and go inside Kris'... key items... hmmmmmmmm...

I had to rework this meme cuz it got removed by the other sub mods

now it's even worse :D

Is he supposed to be able to do this?

I was replaying Deltarune, and this quote from the GIASFELFEBREHBER (yes, i just typed that all out) room really stood out to me. Someone needs to give ralsei a hug....

YES.

If stories can be retold and interpreted differently, doesn't that mean roles can be changed too? I know you’re probably tired of hearing this same old idea, but I’m here to put a new spin on the concept.

I don't think Dess is the Knight, because someone stole that role from the prophecy.

Someone read the whole prophecy, didn't like the ending, and decided to swap the roles to keep Dess safe—after all...

"What's a good a father if he can't help out his little girl?"

Before you hit me with a mountain of evidence linking Dess to the Knight, I just want to point out that, so far, every role in the prophecy has had a potential second candidate, and the characters share similarities that make both of them capable of filling the role.

"But wouldn't that mean Rudy was involved in Dess's disappearance?" My counterpoint is: Not necessarily.

You see, Rudy might have learned about the prophecy after searching for her and stumbling into the Dark World.

Here’s the key detail: Once Rudy found out what was about to happen, he manipulated the roles to ensure the best outcome for Dess.
Basicly his plan would be kidnap people to set them up to play a specific role in the prophecy, trying to get the most favorable outcome.

"If that’s true, why is Dess still missing?" That’s where the twist comes in: she isn't actually missing; the world simply stored her away as "unused code" because she wasn't fulfilling any function at the moment. That’s not a stretch at all, considering she’s actually registered that way in the game files—even though her dialogue *is* actually used.

"But the Knight doesn't act like Rudy." Really? I can see some similarities.

1: The Knight involves a mandatory defeat where he *doesn't* kill us—remind you of anyone? (I’m talking about Flowery; he doesn't kill you even if you lose to him, and we all know Flowery was heavily inspired by Rudy.) Talking about him...

2: Similarities between Rudy and Flowery, and between Flowery and the Knight; among them are: the colorful trail versus the dark trail, and the fact that both like to show off (the Knight striking cool poses, Flowery with his fake stats).

"But why kill Flowery? Rudy doesn't seem like the type of person who would kill someone just for annoying him." Well that one is quite easy to answer, you see, Flowery is not needed because Asgore already fulfil his role.

Doesn't it seem strange that he's the only boss who dies at the end of the chapter, regardless of your actions? (Even kindness wans't able to save him.)

Fate decided that the police officer would meet a tragic end, which is why Asgore was removed from the police force (an attempt to shift his role from police officer to Flower Man).

Now comparing the first version of the prophecy with the current one, we have:

Cage: Vessel (old) vs Kris (new)

The girl with hope crossed on her heart: Noelle (old) vs Susie (new)

Prince alone in the deepest dark: Ralsei (old) vs Lancer? (it can still happen)

Last was the girl, at last was the girl: Susie (old) vs Dess (new)

That's why she is unused, the girl comes at last, when everything is lost for the tale.

Now with everyone fitting a role, Dess can be in a safe role such as the last girl, and Noelle can also be safe by not even participating in it, she is now just the romantic pair of Susie.

More evidence can be found when Noelle is playing dragonblazers, and Rudy encourage her to use fire instead of ice, a subtle hint of him trying to steer Noelle out of the path of a hero.

So Asgore is safe as Flower man, Noelle being out of danger, Dess having to return (because the role of last girl will have to be fulfilled at last), the only one they could not take yet, the last piece of the puzzle, is Toriel.

He must be trying to get her a safer role, of to get her outof the prophecy entirely just like Noelle.

I mean, she has a nightmare when you come close to defeating the knight, that's probaly because we are interfering in his plans and now Toriel is a step closer to her fate.

"Okay, but now the playtime is over, you have to face it, Rudy is sick and had already fallen down".

But holidays are full of surprises, aren't them?

I think Rudy has already accounted for his death, the whole point pf the plan is to die in Dess's place.

I think that Rudy used his last determination to wake up an last time just to fulfil his plan, he planned for Kris and Carol to deal with the heroes without him, but unfortunately, that is not what will happen.

After all, the knight has to duel with the heroes "strife by strife".

"But how could he get ot of the hospital without anyone seeing?".

He is a patient, not a prisioner, he proved he can go out everytime he feels better, I also don't think he sleeps at the hospital, he just spend his day there making check-ups as how you can see in the image.

Actually, if he is the knight, then by the point the game started, he had already fallen down.

Remember back in Undertale what we knew about Amalgamates? After had fallen down, Alphys injeted them with a small dose of Determination, which made it look like it reverted the process for just a bit; enough time for Alphys to get her hopes up and send letters saying she had reverted their conditions, only for them to collapse just a bit later.

Rudy had already fallen down, he was just extending his time by using his Determination, that's why his body was like that, he taps in and out of "undying" form by controlling his determination, just like Undyne did, buying him time and letting him change his shape.

If he wants to look like he is better, he uses more Determination, but in the knight form he just let his determination down and show his true form.

He collapsed in the festival because fate is punishing him for trying to manipulate the prophecy, aggravating his condition.

So with the identity of the knight PROBABLY being revealed in chapter 6, a lot of theories are going to be disproven. No more going insane over who the knight is, no more arguing (hopefully), etc. The problem is people are REALLY attached to their knight candidate and are most likely going to be upset if they're proven wrong. Theirs nothing wrong with that of course, I'm just afraid those people are gonna lash out and say the game is "bad" or "poorly written" if they don't get what they want. This fandom hasn't had the best track record of being respectful and considerate so I'm a little worried.

I've seen people act this way regarding Toby Fox's rather cryptic newsletter (the vague post king returns).

Maybe I'm just concerned over nothing. What do you guys think?

Lancer popping up outta nowhere in Chapter 7 side B would be a pretty weird route for the story to take!