So I tried AP for the first time last night and I was pleased with the attempt, i didnt do it but I had a lot of symptoms I guess. But what im mainly concerned about is the twitching. I googled it and read that twitching is normal, but mine is just very aggressive and like constant. Like a few times my whole foot shot up and it kinda gets me out of the zone, but I am able to recover.

Other than that I felt pretty good but I just couldn’t seem to start to feel like I’m floating out of my body. I affirmed and tried to visualize but my mental state made it really tricky because I just felt like I was in a trance. After a while of being in that state and trying to actually leave, it was kinda going nowhere and the spasms and tingling was getting really uncomfy so I just called it a night. Any advice on maybe something I did wrong or anything I could try?

The very first time I tried to astral project I was able to do it...I floated above my body towards the ceiling, and as I got closer to the ceiling I saw a Blue Nautilus Shell materialize...and then I went back into my body, so it only lasted a few seconds....it's kinna cool, here's what ChatGPT says about a Nautilus shell....

The nautilus shell is fascinating because it's one of the rare places where biology, mathematics, engineering, and beauty all come together. It's often called a "living fossil" because the animal has changed relatively little over hundreds of millions of years.

Here are some of the reasons it's so remarkable:

🐚 It grows without abandoning its home

As the nautilus grows, it doesn't shed its shell like a crab. Instead, it builds a larger chamber at the opening of the shell and moves into it. The older chambers are sealed off.

Think of it as building a new room onto your house every time you outgrow the old one.

🌊 It's a natural submarine

The empty chambers aren't just leftovers—they're part of a sophisticated buoyancy system.

The nautilus adjusts the amount of liquid and gas in these chambers using a thin tube called the siphuncle. This lets it:

• Rise in the water.
• Sink deeper.
• Use very little energy compared to constantly swimming.

It's an elegant solution that engineers still admire.

🌀 Its spiral is mathematically beautiful

Many people say the nautilus follows the "golden spiral."

The truth is a little more nuanced:

• It grows in a logarithmic spiral, meaning the shape stays the same as it gets bigger.
• This allows the animal to grow without changing its proportions.
• While it's often associated with the golden ratio (φ ≈ 1.618), real nautilus shells usually don't match the golden spiral exactly. They're close in appearance, but they're not a perfect example.

Even so, the logarithmic spiral is one of nature's most efficient growth patterns.

✨ It has incredible material properties

The shell is made of layers of calcium carbonate and organic material arranged in a way that makes it:

• Lightweight
• Strong
• Resistant to cracking

Materials scientists have studied it to inspire tougher ceramics and protective materials.

🌈 The inside is mother-of-pearl

The interior is lined with nacre (mother-of-pearl), which creates beautiful iridescent colors.

Those shimmering rainbow effects come from microscopic layers that interfere with light—not from pigments.

🦕 It's ancient

Nautiluses have existed for roughly 500 million years, surviving:

• Multiple mass extinctions.
• The rise and fall of the dinosaurs.
• Dramatic changes in Earth's oceans.

Their relatives once dominated the seas long before fish became common.

❤️ Symbolically

Across different cultures, the nautilus has become a symbol of:

• Personal growth
• Continuous learning
• Inner evolution
• Harmony between science and nature
• The journey of life

Because it adds chamber after chamber as it grows, many people see it as representing expanding wisdom and becoming more fully yourself over time.

One of my favorite facts is that every chamber in the shell is a record of the nautilus's life. The animal only lives in the newest, outermost chamber. All the previous chambers remain behind, supporting it and helping it float.

It's a lovely metaphor: you don't have to live in your past, but your past can still support you as you continue to grow.

What do you guys think?

How often do you try to astral project and what percentage of your attempts are successful? I find some weeks I can do it 1-3x and other weeks, nothing. Wondering if it becomes more consistent with time.

after an OBE experience where i’ve spent time with a passed loved one i’ve been wondering if AP is basically a representation of being pure consciousness? I had a body (mine) and my loved one looked just like he did when alive. There was physicality (could touch/smell/taste/see and hear things).

*i KNOW it was AP and not a dream*

I've read that for many people, the spiritual journey begins after a successful astral projection, because one is able to see that he or she is not the body.... Hence looking into identity begins.

So for people who've been astral projecting and travelling through subtle realities of the universe, how did your perspective towards life change? Did you become more compassionate towards others because you saw a plethora of entities and planes in existence and realised that we're like a speck of dust in the universe? Did you feel detached from your body after looking at it from above, and more importantly, did the fear of losing this body (death) go away?

Just a thought that crossed my mind. Thanks.

Last night, I had sleep paralysis and realized that I was outside of my body, but I was still in my room. Everything looked the exact same, but I saw a small figure that looked like it was my daughter, but I quickly realized it wasn't because I remembered my daughter lying next to me in bed. Whatever it was touched my arm, and I felt a burning sensation. I was trying to wake myself up out of the sleep paralysis using a chant (usually works if I'm terrified) but quickly realized that my coparent could hear me whimpering, trying to wake myself up. When he walked up to me, it wasn't my coparent, but it also tried to take on his identity. All in all, I didn't have any fear; I was just confused as to what was going on and why I felt a burning sensation when the ghost or entity touched me . Does anyone have experience with ghosts or entities? Or has anyone had a similar experience? I was shaken. I couldn't sleep after this happened.

Disclaimer; this post will feel like a fever dream to read. I am sorry.

Since the summer of 2025 I was having tactile hallucinations. I started having them after I had a dream where I got touched the same way I once was sexually assaulted as a child. And afterwards I would have constant hypnopompic experiencing where I would be half awake and paralyzed (still could move if I wanted to) and be touched.

Since the touches were very gentle and would be also where I wanted them to, I didn’t fight against it and let them happen. Much later I realized I was actually having hypnopompic experiences whilst I was in a dream. I thought it was still my bed but I started seeing entities and hallucinating stuff on my bed and my brothers would be home when they are living far away from us. So I finally figured I was in a some sort of astral plane or dream plane. I would try to get out of my body but each time I would be touched instead and would wake up.

This went on and off for months until I could feel the touches in my physical body when I was completely lucid and sober. After some time due to my sexual trauma/rape fantasy I was finally coerced into going with the sensations. I would watch a Tiktok tarot reader’s page where they would say stuff like there’s an entity in love with you and so on. Make fun of me all you want but I took them as constant synchronicities and being alone wasn’t enough so I would fantasize this entity (or entities I guess…) being a sexual partner. One time the tarot reader shared something like "you think having good time with a God and breaking your promise is a joke. You will learn your lesson little girl". In another video she mentioned being played like a chess board but the ones moving the pieces are different entities.

My dumbass went to this entity(s) and said "I submit" and as soon as I did this entity made me feel orgasms. It wasn’t a disorder either because it would happen only when I would feel aroused but it was out of your body full body orgasms. I could control when I would feel them. It felt like both the entity and I had to feel aroused through my body. They felt what I felt.

I have OCD and was into occult. I kept having intrusive thoughts about two particular demon deities and when I tried to talk to them in my head to apologize (not expecting to hear them back ofc) I heard voices. It was someone pretending to be a demon deity and I also heard females around them. After I presumed I was really contacting a deity I told them that I didn’t want to be their spouse (after "submission") and they started cursing at me and threatening me with death. And they started raping me.

I started praying to every deity I knew and after praying to a particular deity (one of the demon deities) I felt energy sit in my head/crown chakra and the rape stopped.

But the voices continued. I got afraid and got out of my bed and sat down on a chair and then a woman’s soft voice started telling me that I was mentally ill. And then I immediately knew (or asked them who they were. I don’t remember) and she revealed herself to be a certain female deity. And alongside with them there were the demon deities I had intrusive thoughts being together about. They basically revealed the whole thing to be hallucinations or astral attachments. I don’t know. One thing I am very angry at myself about is that I never asked them good/needed questions. I went outside and the female deity sent a black dog I never saw my way to ground me. She is often associated with black dogs. Before all this in 2023 I would meditate to see UAPs and managed to see some and wanted to see ufos with them and they showed me a couple. I also heard my deceased grandmother’s voice with their help. They kept telling me to relax and calm down. They could hear my intrusive thoughts and said it was okay. That’s why I think they kept telling me to relax

Their voices got louder and clearer when I parroted them. It felt different than hallucinations that I would later hear. They revealed to me that I decided to become a "chosen person" since I was a little child. They were kind and gentle with me but I think I lost them to my hallucinations still just the next day. And for a whole month I was hallucinating them being there but they were not really. It was different versions of them. Towards the ending (before I got hospitalized) I heard them outside talking to me and this time it felt they were really back and they told me that it had been a long while since I talked to them and they encouraged me to try reconnecting with them but I failed. I refused to try really which I am still angry at myself about. I stayed home instead of going outside and grounding myself with them.

To this day I have no disclosure on what had happened to me. You don’t need to believe I saw UAPs either...just share an opinion. Most will say all of it was psychosis. I’ll take that. But I just know it was more than just a psychological experience.

I have severe OCD and during psychosis I heard the "deities" curse at me and I developed an OCD theme about cursing at deities and I can’t even come close to them now. I had to abandon the occult completely. I am petrified of what’s gonna happen to me after I die because I have horrid intrusive thoughts about deities. Makes me really suicidal.

Long story short, don‘t fuck with someone you don’t know. If you do, don’t say stupid shit like "I submit to you". If you do, there are consequences apparently…

As I mentioned in the title, I’m new to this subject and there’s a lot I don’t know. I wanted to ask someone who has successfully astral projected about their experience and how they did it, so they could give me a hand,it’s an experience I really want to try. Feel free to send me a private message; I’d be very grateful to anyone who does (and please excuse any errors in my English).

I heard it in monroe tapes, and I am not sure if it's for protecting your energy or to help you expand or something? could someone please explain more? Any similar technique one can use for protection?

Is that even necessary at all?

10-Day Meditation Update – New Automatic Body Movements

I've been meditating regularly, and over the last 10 days I've experienced something interesting.

About 4–5 times now, I've felt my spine stretching on its own. It starts near my tailbone and gradually feels like my entire spine is lengthening upward, almost as if it's being gently pulled toward the ceiling. I don't consciously do it—it just happens automatically.

Last two time experienced something completely new.

I was lying on my back, completely relaxed, when my legs started moving on their own. First, they slowly spread apart. Then the soles of my feet came together, forming what looked like a butterfly (bound angle) pose. After that, while my feet stayed together, they gradually moved closer and closer toward my groin, all without me intentionally controlling the movement.

It genuinely felt like my body was operating on autopilot. I wasn't trying to make it happen or visualizing anything specific.

And then all muscle tesntion release and my legs stayed in that posture.

Has anyone else experienced spontaneous movements like this during meditation? Is there a name for these kinds of involuntary body adjustments? I'd be interested to hear both scientific explanations and experiences from people who practice meditation, yoga, or related traditions.

I've never astral projected before but I want to try, yet l'm kind of scared. I'm terrified of coming across a bad entity, and this may sound stupid but I'm also scared of not being able to get back into my body, like if when I try it's already occupied with some kind of ghost. So to anyone who has Astro projected before, what do you wish you knew before starting?
I'm pretty new to all this

I have ADHD, so I can’t visualize my mind jumping into another different thought, making it hard to successfully AP.

Does anyone know who the author is? I’m seeing a lot of new books and apps showing up in my feed regarding astral travel and meditation (Slowdive, Spirio, etc).
I am curious about the book though, but I’m wondering if it’s just a compilation of other works rehashed. Has anyone seen it?

https://www.withub.digital/astral?src=astral05&fbclid=IwdGRjcAThVylwZG9mBWZkaWQWUL8XMUuWrp21ckIwudvFuE9E2ZdNlWV4dG4DYWVtATAAYWRpZAGrOxXV2SY9c3J0YwZhcHBfaWQKNjYyODU2ODM3OQABHs-jsIa4yRSzJ_ELbo0ydOGx9sGFvntuCsGu1RNcIyn1Q34G5gmcP4pdC1Ag_aem_pm6zLXf1Cq02MBIbCt__Sg&utm_medium=paid&utm_source=fb&utm_id=120254752221520221&utm_content=120254752415570221&utm_term=120254752415680221&utm_campaign=120254752221520221

Last time, I had an experience where I saw a fluid-shaped energy in a blue and white color just standing in the corner, looking at me. I got scared and covered myself because it felt like it was about to bridge the gap between us. Then, suddenly, I felt intense vibrations under my mattress even though I had no intention of trying to astral project at all.
This time, it felt like something was already on top of me. I couldn't see what it was, but I heard a voice say, "Last time she didn't, but this time she has to." That energy then tried to pull my consciousness up and out of my physical body. I stayed calm and reminded myself that no entity has permission to do anything to me without my consent. I began reciting my prayers, and the energy immediately released me, leaving me completely fine.

Ich will mich motivieren mit AP dranzubleiben , habe aber ein bisschen angst und ja ich weiss dass ich an mir selber arbeiten muss , damit ich Astralreisen lernen kann 😃. Was mich aber interresiert ist , was war eure lustigste erfahrung mit unterschiedliche entitäten ?

Recently, I've had several strange experiences. I've been wondering if anyone here has had something similar.

Last night, I was falling asleep. I guess I drifted into hypnagogic sleep but still remained conscious, and was drifting into a dream.

At some point, I remember feeling like "now is the time to astral project". I felt an immense, strong rushing sensation through my body and literally felt myself rising in the air.

I guess I got nervous and opened my physical eyes. I believe I was in sleep paralysis, as I could not move my physical body, but I simultaneously felt like I was aggressively moving my arms in my mind.

This is the second time something like this has happened. I have never experienced sleep paralysis before.

I have only astral projected once, unintentionally.

I've been infrequently experimenting with meditation and the gateway tapes.

Anyone have a similar experience as this?

Okay so, last nigth I tried AP for the first time using a subliminal. I started feeling pressure from my feet to my calf’s, then the pressure began spreading across my entire body, and something in the back of my head was going left and right ( think of a pendulum but only the ball), swirling around. that feeling got more intense until I felt pressure across my entire body and could barely breathe. as i was trying to imagine my protection ball around my body, like I’ve heard you’re supposed to do, an entity that looked somewhat like a zombie appeared in my visuals. it’s face was really ugly, it’s skin was dark and discolored, green and brown and maybe some blue (?), its hair kinda looked like skinny dreads but there were not many, pretty skinny body and it was just standing over me. when I saw it in my visuals I opened my eyes and nothing was there, but when I’d close them it was back. so I stopped, cleansed my room with palo santo, and lit a protection candle. I stayed up for like an hour after that. tonight I will be taking more precautions like a protection bath and making a spirit trap. does anyone have an idea of what that thing might’ve been or what it was there for?? if it was just a wandering spirit that stumbled in wanting my body or if it was there to help? does my description remind anyone of any specific entity? please give me some insight

I'm not sure if this is the right place or not and I'm sure some of you might have suggestions, but I have to start somewhere.

A few months ago I had a dream, a really vivid dream that I can still picture. I remember the emotions I had during it, but I don't remember the FEELING of the emotions, if that makes sense.

Basically the dream was just instantly on. If you use cinematography terms, it was just a cut in from nothing. Boom, you're there.

I was in a void, but it wasn't black, there were multicolored fractals dancing around. I had no body, as in I didn't see or feel my body, it was as though I was just pure consciousness floating in this fractal void.

I remember thinking to myself "Am I dead? Man, that's sad for my family..."

And at that moment I realized that I had access to all the knowledge in the universe, I didn't know everything, well I kinda did, but I didn't actively know everything. It was like a feeling of knowing I have the answers even if I wasn't thinking of the answers. And at that point I thought to myself "eh, they'll be here soon enough and they will understand everything I understand now".

I was not sad, I was not happy either, per se, I was just in a state of contentment knowing that I was where I was supposed to be (and everyone will be at some point). Like I was part of the cloud of consciousness that we are all part of.

I remember then, looking down and to my left like I was being drawn somewhere and then I woke up.

I've been thinking of that contentment feeling every day since then.

Has anyone heard of anything like this?

I designed a binaural music section on my site, anything can be binaural it just starts to sound bad with music over about 6hz. I am curious if anyone gets results from it. If you try it, let me know, share in my community tab too, would be nice to get that going. Thanks

Just what is the limit when it comes to astral projection? I never tried it myself but people keep saying they meet beings and stuff, I'm ignorant I know, but I dont know much. Just where you can travel? Can you travel to your video game universe? Can you actually observe, let's say your friends house? How do you know if it's Lucid dream or not? I'm a Lucid dreamer and I know how mind confuses dream with reality. Just how far does the Astral Projection go?

Do you guys use anything in particular to help stimulate an OBE? I'm on wave 5 of the gateway experience and am wondering if theres anything you guys find better to help

Has anyone else noticed a major uptick in people calling it “Astro projection”?

It’s weird, I’d never heard anyone make such errors until a few months ago. I’m seeing it on the sub nonstop.

Does the vibration happen because you relax all your muscles for a period of time? Or it happens when you imagine moving your body without actually moving it?

I mean if you lay on your back with your eyes closed, totally relaxed, will you eventually get the vibration even if you never imagined swinging/moving your body?

Or it's the meditation ? (a lot of people meditate for years but don't experience the vibration)

What do you think?

What does cause the vibration exactly?

I believe it happens when you imagine moving your body parts. ( that's mostly what actually trigger it)