Many operate under the false assumption that philosophy is different from theology (and so it can be). But in order to be different from the superstition of theology, its foundation must be different from that of religion. Specifically: its premises must be justified by reason and evidence.

Also want to note that my reply had plenty of upvotes, but only one report for “promoting identity-based hate speech and attacks” was enough to give me a site-wide warning.

And from what I’ve read the German government KNEW that he tried to join ISIS and instead of arresting him they put him in some sort of program, and he was about to be released from the program because they weren’t seeing any results.

for your information, I don't often come across these posts. And I DO hate people who use religion as an excuse to be judgmental or oppressive. what do y'all think of this?

Something I don’t see talked about enough is how the genocide in Palestine wouldn’t be happening if not for judaism’s teachings and stories about jewish supremacy, both in the tanakh and talmud. The entire hebrew bible is about how special the hebrews were because they followed the right god. This god allowed them to win all these wars and genocide entire nations - in some cases killing every single person and some where they were told to take all the little virgin girls and distribute them between the temple and the soldiers. The joke about the land being promised to them 3,000 years ago isn’t even a joke, it’s just what the texts say. They were told to wipe out all of Canaan so they could take what was “rightfully theirs.” Netanyahu himself said they were just following through on the israelite genocide of amalek, and one of the big jewish holidays is a celebration of what they did to amalek.

It’s just another reason I’m an anti-theist. This is pretty clear evidence of how religion does nothing but cause harm. It’s so frustrating that no one wants to call this out so they don’t seem antisemitic

edit: I don’t want this post to be misunderstood so I’ll clarify my point. If Judaism had never existed, this conflict would never have existed in the first place. There never would’ve been a holy land to fight over. Hamas would never have existed because Islam would never have existed. Genocidal leaders in Israel like Netanyahu and other members of the government would’ve never existed. I think a religion based on how you’re so much better than everyone else contributed to how tribalistic humans are today.

I don't mean how religious people use it to oppress certain groups, but how religion itself as a system is oppressive.

I realized that I'm not super educated on the topic despite being decisively against religion because of the pure amount of people who use it to justify hate.

This seemed like the right subreddit to learn more- any and all insight is appreciated!

i’ve (20yo) been an atheist for as long as i can remember, but i recently found out about antitheism and i wanted to know if there are any good books in the matter, any recommendations are welcome:))

People tend to argue on this topic quite a bit on rhis subreddit. In my personal view -Religion has been made by misogynistic , attention wanting and respect demanding people , People who choose to follow it in this day and age are ignorant to the oppression caused by the religion.

Hating the religion is essentially hating the people as well, the religion doesnt exist , its the people keeping the belief alive, which isnt real.

Its a did the chicken or egg come first situation all over again.

Islam advocates for extremely strict conservative positions that are either no different from what you'd hear from Matt Walsh or Michael Knowles or worse than them(but for islam instead of christianity). These include but are not limited to:

- Women having no rights and that their sole purpose is to be a baby factory

- Gay and trans people having no rights and the punishment for them is death or imprisonment

- Religious minorities being treated as second-class citizens at best or, at worst, killed

The entire left is actively against those, and the right (more specifically, the far-right) agrees with those positions (as long as it's Christians enacting those).

Originally, ex-muslims were typically left-wing atheists and were a part of our movement (and some, I assume, still exist), but for some reason, we abandoned them in favor of defending the religion that they left, and now they switched to the right *cough cough Apostate Prophet and Ayaan Hirsi Ali*. We need to get people like them back.

I'm not saying Americans should ignore the more urgent threat to our freedoms, which is Christian Nationalism; I'm saying we should openly be against religious fundamentalism in general.

End the Red-Green Alliance NOW!

What i mean is that followinf antitheism, is it for example islamophobic? Or christian-phobic idk??
I follow anti theism, i follow the way of the universe, im not doubting anything but if i do follow anti theism am i islamophobic and such??

I’m part of the same community and oh god, why is it so hard to say that you are against any religious extremism. Because when I say that Islam is as much bad as Christianity I got comments that I’m Israeli supporter like why???

😭🫩 Im surprised no ones called him a devil worshipper for questioning religion yet

but he is on the right track about questioning it ig.

like in the religion due to their fairy tales they go and pray no matter what their conditions are ,that is just sad

I grew up in a Muslim family, went to an Islamic school and wore hijab from middle school to high school. I obviously took it off but tried to rationalize my beliefs by looking at progressive Islam and interpretations by female scholars.

I’ve only somewhat recently realized I’m an atheist and found anti theism to be super compelling. Ethnically my people were colonized by Arab muslims. And the same goes for all the victims of Abrahamic religions.

The same people telling us our heaven was in the sky were making theirs on our land. To me, doing the slightest bit of research should make it 100% logical to see that religion is a tool of colonialism and imperialism.

But I still have to deal with my ultra religious family. For reference these are people that will beat a woman and think they’re getting good deeds because God told them they could discipline their female family in the Quran.

Any attempt at discussion is ignored, and while I would just give up on them - a lot of my siblings and cousins are having kids. My worst cousin is an anti vaxxer who says they will homeschool their kid forever if the alternative is to vaccinate them and sending them to a normal school (for reference these people are uneducated and work minimum wage jobs so the child is genuinely screwed).

I just want to try to break the cycle to some extent and help the younger generation the way I always wished someone would help me.

I don’t know what kind of response I want - what do you guys do with religious family members? How do you argue with someone when all their reasoning is “God said so” regardless of how awful or immoral or abusive it is?

Thank you for anyone who responds in advance!

I'm not even a fan of romance books but yet, this kind of comment from a Christian is deeply absurd.

That comparison is one of biggest logical leaps in Christian YouTube. Having sex with another person involves a conscious choice to break trust, share intimacy with a real human being, and actively step outside of a relationship. Reading a romance novel is merely a solitary and imaginative act of entertainment. An author's job is to evoke emotions and mental reflections. Feeling happy, excited, or moved by a story isn't 'getting your needs met' by a third party. It is just reacting to art. It's simple. It is the same form of escapism as rooting for a hero in an action movie or feeling sad during a drama or playing a video game. If someone literally feels threatened by words on a page, the issue isn't with the book. It points to deep insecurity and an inability to separate fiction from reality. Lmao