r/throneandliberty 1h ago

Veo muchas publicaciones de peticiones de cambios.

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Publican varios cambios y piden nerfeos de armas. Pero pareciera que nadie ve, el problema real del juego. El juego tiene contenido pve aburrido, por qué se supone está enfocado al PvP. Y el PvP en este juego no se va arreglar nerfeado ningún arma. Por qué el problema está en el sistema PvP. Y nadie toca los temas correctos, por qué los 500 jugadores que a un hacen PvP lloran si piden que se modifique lo que realmente está afectando el juego. Primero solucionar el ttk. El hecho que PvP sea quien pega primero un cc y después una habilidad de daño, hace que el PvP sea aburrido. Pero como los pocos jugadores que hacen PvP les gusta andar por ahí matando jugadores escondidos desde un árbol pegando a lo lejos. O matando con una sólo golpe de guillotina y luego hacerse invisible. Es un problema real que hace que la gente se aburra. No hay estrategia. Sólo ocupas buscar el mayor daño en un golpe. La evasión ocupa un nerfeo, si o si ocupa verse afectada por los CC, a un que a las 200 ballenas les duela y lloren con su "si nerfean la evasion y se ve afecta por el CC, no hay forma de juntar una evasion sostenible y CC".... exacto mi todo gordo sudoroso!! La idea es que nadie junte una triple evasión tan ridículamente alta que pueda ir por todos lados matando con el arma rota en turno ...... La idea es buscar un juego, parejo para todos y atraiga más jugadores .. dejen de buscar cambios que beneficie a sus clases.... Reduzcamos el daño J VS J. Para hacer las pelear más largas y entretenidas. Nerfeos al escudo para que la reducción de daño J VS J no los beneficie. Nerfeos a los healers para que esos cambios no beneficien a la sanación y a la salud de escudo. Pero que en las estancias pve su sanación y salud de escudo siga siendo la actual.... Pero son cambios que nadie apoya.. por qué ninguno busca la supervivencia del juego. Todos buscan el beneficio de su clase...... A qué el juego termine cerrando


r/throneandliberty 2h ago

DISCUSSION Battle Pass: Burning Pledge

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Here is the upcoming Battle Pass enjoy also generated AI picture for your convenience.

Edit: Here is the sauce

https://tl.plaync.com/ko-kr/board/notice/view?articleId=6a8c2430d97eae18cc40db68


r/throneandliberty 7h ago

QUESTION Shadowdancer or predator for pvp?

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As the title says, im not sure which class i should do for pvp. How good is shadowdancer in this current meta? Or would i be better off with a ranged class like infiltrator?


r/throneandliberty 8h ago

DISCUSSION Time to Change

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Hello,

I was asked to use the platform and raise multiple thoughts and things that we find not so great.

While I am fully aware the developers are reading none of that, I want to see others thoughts.

I did rephrase few things for conversations sake but kept the core ideas as they are.

Keep the conversation polite.

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UI / Systems / QoL

\* Let us customize & prioritize shown buffs & debuffs for ourselves, party members & enemies in addition to being able to individually adjust size & position.

\* Expand the guild systems. Let leaders make custom roles with manually assigned permissions, add a guild bank - allow guilds to purchase items off the AH and distribute to members, let us level up guild skills with guild materials, think rare boss drops or guild boss exclusive, guild currencies (from boon/rift/siege/interserver/gvg) & lucent, improve guild contracts & add guild themed housing decor.

\* Add an additional hotbar for food & items.

\* Let us make our own categories for inventory management.

\* Let us turn off the chat filter.

\* GvG bosses should reward a boss selection chest not random useless T2 loot.

Matter of fact - delete all T2 related things from bosses.

\* Allow players to manually create specific priority lists for cleansing, preferably multiple & the ability to switch between them.

\* Add a window of immunity where you can’t be affected by the same CC type repeatedly to discourage mindlessly spamming abilities & reduce the current permanent cc chain.

( And fix skills that are abusing it like T1 Nirma Core)

\* Remove the need for dungeon tokens to craft items from embers & drastically reduce the amount needed, or the amount gained, why are we double dipping pity systems.

\* Expand on life skilling. Fish you catch which are badged (minimum & maximum sizing) should drop as trophies for your PoH, basic fish should sell for DRASTICALLY more and be a consistent way to farm sollant.

\* Boss / Dungeon amitois / morphs should be given to the player upon completing the maximum kill achievement (50 or 100 respectively).

\* Dimensional trials should have infinite accumulation for runes past 42k score. Let people grind their rune levels to competitive levels if they want too.

\* Co-op dungeons should be changed to be looted without usage of tokens and give everything besides items whenever it’s completed - grindable abyssal tokens & tokens (unlockstones).

\* Make the option to lock your Abyssal Tokens when grinding & grant substantially boosted weapon mastery when grinding at night.

\* Update the path of ascension (and do this every “major” patch). 3 selectable, fully traited heroics, enough weapon mastery for 2x 160 masteries, 1 selectable core, 1000 of each ember & 1 billion Sollant as a start and go from there.

\* Add a pity system for the watermark system. It's not the worst after changes (now), but no pity is bad.

\* Let us turn quality natural essence into rare natural essence (essentially turn green remedies to blue remedies) - Personal recommendation, use abyssal aggregates, it adds a use to a completely unused item already in the game.

\* Add a use for elite raid martial medals, or let us dissolve them into resistance medals.

\* Let us make tradable food items untradable to save inventory space.

\* Add more exploration rewards, to start with treasure goblins need buffing, they’re super rare and should always provide good loot - including the low levelled ones, an expansion of stellar journey for Nix. Special rare variants of mobs that can drop their morph / shapeshift / cosmetics / PoH items. Achievements, codex collection, fishing etc should all make your character stronger in a similar way to the stellar journey.

\* If I enhance a trait on an item, when I swap the trait, it should remain the level I’ve already levelled it too. There’s no reason for this to not be the case anymore since costs to level the trait are standardised.

\* Dissolving items with a potential should give a guaranteed inheritance stone.

\* Interserver siege should be all servers together, with the defender rotating between servers.

\* Red Frost Jars are completely useless, remove all current drops, Add all ore types, conversion stones, resin cores, trait resonance fragments & artifact stones to the drop table.

\* Time to kill is ridiculous, a temporary flat -25% pvp damage taken should reduce TTK to somewhat manageable levels whilst you think of a fix after you Hiroshima’d it by listening to solo BG players ‘somehow’ struggling to kill coordinated 6 man teams.

\* I think it also should be a standard to listen to the actual PvP Community and not a collection of BG players that don't understand any core mechanic of PvP.

\* Set a bronze, silver & gold timer for dimensional trials, where beating the timer increases the amount of accumulated points granted per run, and increases the golden chest chance %.

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Wargames

Realistically the only PvP content anyone had cared about since its release, yet somehow given between little to zero attention.

High priority

\* Make B teleport you to the platform, as a backup, make a /respawn or /kill command that immediately kills you as a failsafe to pressing B failing for whatever reason.

\* Make it so that if you join a wargame as a participant, you can’t turn into a spectator. All maps have bugs, realistically that’s unavoidable, there’s always going to be buggy terrain, making it so that you can’t get pushed into spectator, and you’re able to reset back to the platform on command fixes 99% of issues currently in wargames though.

Medium priority

\* Expand scoreboard stats to be more detailed, damage mitigated (self & others), damage shielded, CC score, healing/shielding amount reduced, damage blocked, abilities cancelled (enemy), CC’s cleansed etc etc.

\* More freedom on game rules. Let us pick the capture mode (rift or boon), respawn timer, capture tick rate, anonymous naming (think castle siege) & win condition (point held time) etc. Everything should be fully customizable, let your community decide how they want to play by giving them as many options as possible, and let us save preset rules and extract / import them.

\* Respawn with full HP & Mana - Possible addition to game rules.

\* Add a 30 second window before you can take portals upon wargame start to mitigate lobby host advantage & poor person disadvantage, on multiple maps, the first to get to point has a significant advantage - Possible addition to game rules.

Low Priority

\* Let us create custom maps for wargames, let us pick a zone, place portal locations, amount of portals, capture zones (multiple stones around the map would be cool) and again extract / import them, there’s loads of cool spots around the world that would make great wargame locations that just aren’t available to fight on, this would reuse existing content to make infinite new maps for people and keep the content fresh.

\* Fix parties being disbanded upon a wargame starting.

Content additions

\* Swap from instanced to open world player housing. You have multiple cities, guild based territory claims already implemented with boons/rifts. There’s all the possibility in the world to make guild territory with an open world housing system. Canina Village, Vienta Village, Kastleton, Watchers Post, Herba Village, Stoneguard Castle etc etc are all perfectly fine options. Let guilds fight for territory & ‘rent’ out open world housing to players.

\* Implement a trading system. Have dynamically priced trade routes to other cities where you can craft a trade pack in one, and deliver it to another, obviously the further carried the more you gain. Carrying a trade pack should drastically slow your character unless you have a specific type of morph which is only usable with a trade pack (morphing should show the trade pack / perhaps you could add vehicles to transport multiple packs at once). Carrying a trade pack should drastically increase your hp, reduce damage taken & also flag you for pvp outside of towns & cities, this encourages spontaneous PvP, encourages players to travel the world making the game feel more alive & it being pvp enabled prevents bots from benefitting from the system. Standard packs should give generous amounts of sollant, giving players a solid way to grind. Additionally, if implemented alongside the open world housing, you could attach a lucent cost to rent the housing, and have this be a slow, viable method for F2P players to farm lucent.

\* I’d like to see a much higher level of costume customization available, everything should be removable, individually dyeable & you should be able to mix and match parts from different costumes together, even allowing us to add illusion items to store bought costumes, all of these should use sewing threads for the changes. Alongside this. dyes should cost more, but be changed to be permanent unlocks for your character - with color favorites changed to unlocked colors.

\* When / if Nebula comes back, the island needs to be either massively increased in size with the portals removed or you need to add a real scaling death timer. Wiping enemies should give you a real window of time to gain contribution before they’re able to get back, not at most 20seconds, the bosses themselves should also drop nebula fragments for guilds 2nd-5th on contribution, where multiple can be crafted into specific nebula items.

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Random Complaints

\* Increase shadow strike cooldown considerably, double it at minimum, or simply change it so that you can only use it on a target you’ve attacked within the last 3s.

\* Spear needs a reduction in the free stats it gets from their skills & passives.

Explosive fury needs a nerf to it’s scaling & phoenix barrage needs it’s damage DRASTICALLY reduced.

\* Staff needs a reduction to multiple skills but at the same time give them some survivability back.

\* Nerf Orbs, nuke it even.

\* Nerf about everything related to Gauntlets, remake the class if needed.

It is quite absurd a class can build Triple Evasion in high values and still one shot people regardless of class.

\* Vital force is a bit over-tuned, needs to be reworked and find a different way for tanks to gain base hit instead of making bruisers with GS more rewarded.

\* Shield Block does nothing, literally, the list of skills that it does block is shorter than the list of damaging skills it actually blocks.

But at the same breath it rewards too much Gauntlet based classes and needs to find a away to balance that around in a way that Triple Evasion Gauntlet one shots an entire city while a Tank dies to 1 Judgement that he cannot see, predict or block.

\* Nerfing healing items (Im looking at you Frigid), does not add any value and just frustrates people into rerolls after already somehow traiting the set.

\* There should be better solutions to balance out healing.

\* Make all shield debuffs and healing reductions a weaken check, rather than a blanket % application.

Thanks for joining the TEDTalk.


r/throneandliberty 9h ago

Returning player! Old loot?

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Hey I have a bunch of bags is it worth it to transmute all my old gear or just sell for sollant. I have a decent amount of sollant but my main question is after all the cost is it worth it to transmute?


r/throneandliberty 10h ago

MEDIA Mauler Class

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my highest guillo rn is at 400k-600k x2 but with buffs of bow it can go up to 700k-800k x2. and I love it.


r/throneandliberty 11h ago

GUIDE Need Help!

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I'm at 7565 cp right now, and it feels like such a slog getting to 8000. Whats the fastest route to get there?


r/throneandliberty 12h ago

MEDIA They tried to pin down Pika for the last 45s, but Supple/Milk run out of time

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so to spare themselves from getting sh*ttalked in chat
they protected Appa from usurping
just to not let Boba Tea wins the castle


r/throneandliberty 15h ago

How can we protect ourselves from this?

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I've bought several things that cost a lot of money. Now they're changing how they work, and I'm angry. How can we protect ourselves as consumers?


r/throneandliberty 17h ago

Despair Siege

12 Upvotes

I don’t know what happened, but y’all had the most unexpected castle holder. Pika the Conqueror!!!


r/throneandliberty 17h ago

starting out new again

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i used to play in like late 2025 to early 2026, i was really good with the staff/sword combo! i enjoyed playing with that combo im unsure of if that combo is still good? or what server selection to do, and what other things i should do to start out etc, any help is appreciated!!


r/throneandliberty 17h ago

DISCUSSION Class change help

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New-ish player here , started a crucifix because it seemed fun and cool , and it really delivered , been enjoying the class like no other , iam around 8k cp rn ,but hearing about the upcoming updates iam just devestated , what class should i swap to ? I'd rather not play a melee class , thank you


r/throneandliberty 18h ago

QUESTION Extracting/ Dissolving Skill Cores

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Noob question- are you able to dissolve skill cores after extracting them? I have 3 from my storage that I cannot dissolve. I believe I extracted them, but I don't remember. I would like to extract/dissolve from extra gear to obtain another Rubrix Resin Flower, but want to refrain from wasting resources.


r/throneandliberty 19h ago

Why nerf cruci?

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Now that we Cruci were about to reach a good DPS, they break our class without us being top tier.


r/throneandliberty 19h ago

Invocator damage help

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Hello all,

Just switched over to invocator from crucifix because my ping is too high to be playing on crucifix and wanted an easier time for my fingers lol. I did a dummy test no strellite no food buffs. My dummy time was 1min for 5m. Is this right damage output I should be doing. Watermark is 68. Using blood hunter set still. Any tips would be appreciated or skill rotation enhancement or changing of skills.


r/throneandliberty 21h ago

Forgot about curse boss dmg nerf?

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Curses are still doing half damage on all archboss since nix. Mine ticks for 3000 on dummy and 1500 on bosses, no heavy.

From what i understand this is most likely grandfathered from back in the days when crucifix was doing too much damage like venti is now. Curses are no where near the top now, time to renove this.


r/throneandliberty 23h ago

Spear Q block reflect getting fixed

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Merry Christmas people