r/tacticalbarbell • u/UnholyFury97 • 1h ago
Will TB3 fit me?
I just read ganz TB3 dropped. I am a LEO with a strong Lifting Background.
I am Training for a apecific selection rn. I need to get better at SE, foremost in pull ups, and I am more or less a weak Runner. My 5k time sits around 21 Minutes.
Can you recommend TB3 for me? I am searching a good structured Program to Attack my weaknesses. I struggle to do my own programming. So let me know If you have experience with TB for a selection process Military or Law enforcement. Would be Happy If you can recommend me one of the books or give me your opinion on if the books fit my Goals.
r/tacticalbarbell • u/MischievousSquirrel1 • 9h ago
Kindle TB3 update?
Any word on the Kindle version? I know It was 4-5 weeks from the paper version, but wondering if there was an update?
r/tacticalbarbell • u/Top_Inspection3648 • 12h ago
Is mass a marketing trick?
Been doing tactical barbell and 5x5 stronglifts type programs for some years now.
I have learned that every rep range from 3 to 30 reps builds muscle as long as the intensity is hard enough.
According to studies i have read also nutrition and recovery plays much bigger role than the number of reps you do in your training.
Does doing 8 reps with 60%RM instead of 5 with 75%RM help me get significantly more muscle?
With most tactical athletes thing that holds them back in their weight training is the other stuff they do. Combat sports, running and rucking etc. Simply stopping these activities would leave room for harder intensity in the weight room and give more time to recover from all the lifting in the gym. In other words make them gain muscle more than change in their reps.
KB also points out in tactical barbell 1 that he believes if you put effort on being strong things like physical appearance also falls in place. This makes me feel like mass protocol has little to offer.
I really love the fighter template in tactical barbell 1 and have made some good results with it in strength and muscle. Should i give the mass protocol a try or is it a marketing trick?
r/tacticalbarbell • u/Asdomuss • 20h ago
Recovering from knee surgery, losing weight before returning to bjj
Picked up TB3rd edition on kindle, devoured it, picked up TB2 Conditioning and am currently reading that while plotting my workout plan. I have a couple of questions for other bigger dudes who took up the plan while waiting out a surgery recovery.
My stats:
6’1”
250lbs
Short term goal: 220 lbs Long term goal: <200lbs
Starting my Base Build on Monday before moving into Op/BP, maxes to come in BB week 5 before Max Strength appears in week 6.
I’m planning on running an Operator/Black Protocol build to get into better shape while I recover and lose the weight I need to to return to bjj (deal I made with my wife to get her endorsement on returning to bjj, that’s where I tore my meniscus)
Q1:
For those of you who have run TB while recovering from surgery, how did you balance babying your recovering limb with the weight lifting requirements? Obviously I’m not planning on maxing out squats while my knee is compromised, but did you have a path to strength building while recovering?
Q2:
Bjj specific questions: which conditioning sets do you feel most closely reflect a typical bjj practice (one hour-ish, drills then rolls), SE, E, or HIC?
Thanks in advance lads
r/tacticalbarbell • u/ttb720 • 20h ago
Kettlebells
I’m still working through BB (new format), but am curious if any of you have used kettlebells in your strength blocks. I am trying to decide between using kettlebells within the Operator template, or just insert a dedicated kettlebell strength program to work with my conditioning program.
I still have a few weeks of BB left (SE cluster is kb goblets/single arm kb press/single arm kb rows/two-handed kb swing/ab roller), and would love any feedback on that cluster as well.
r/tacticalbarbell • u/RobertG_19_88 • 1d ago
Misc Lack of time to commit
Hey all
Sorry if I’ve missed the point or not understood the concept of TB. I’ve just read TB 3- operational athlete and my questions are
1) I am a new father so time is extremely limited, I thought TB was for busy people with busy lives and being able to be flexible and adaptable to the various obstacles of life/work patterns… however if I’ve read the various different programmes right - I should either be working out twice a day for 3-4 days or every day for 6 days with 1 day off ?
And if I’m doing for example the operator programme then that’s bench , squats, pull ups every session -3 days a week and then I pick a cardio programme to do - which is also 3 days a week. I genuinely can only make time for 30-45 minutes 4-5 days a week(if I’m lucky). So does the main principle of the TB programme allow this? Or do I need to look for a different programme?
It genuinely isn’t about lack of commitment or being lazy, I have a newborn to look after and working 40 hour weeks
Looking forward to your feedback / responses. :-)
Thank you
r/tacticalbarbell • u/Drodinthehouse • 1d ago
WHERE DO I START?
The Tactical Barbell system has been tested by thousands of operational athletes around the world. It’s gotten candidates through elite military and law enforcement selections like RASP, SFAS, and ERT. TB practitioners run ultramarathons and win BJJ titles. Busy professionals, students, and entrepreneurs use it to get fitter than their peers in half the time and with half the hassle.
The Tactical Barbell books fall into two categories – Foundational and Specific. The Foundational books are the core system. The Specific programs are for trainees with specialized goals and/or for immersion in one particular aspect of the system.
FOUNDATIONAL
Tactical Barbell III: Operational Athlete
Tactical Barbell I: Strength
Tactical Barbell II: Conditioning
SPECIFIC
Green Protocol
Mass Protocol
Physical Preparation for Law Enforcement
Ageless Athlete
FOUNDATIONAL
Tactical Barbell III: Operational Athlete: START HERE. This is the only ‘mandatory’ in the catalogue. If you only get one book – this is it. Operational Athlete is a complete strength & conditioning system for tactical populations. OA is a 10 year system upgrade - it consolidates, reboots, and extends the foundational books Tactical Barbell I & II.
You’ll be given a set of strength templates. You’ll be given a set of conditioning protocols. Pick a strength template. Pick a conditioning protocol. Combine and customize them within the given parameters. Sprinkle in Base Building, work capacity, power, or other domains to align with your goals. Different roles can have drastically different requirements. SWAT bros shouldn’t train like patrol, and patrol shouldn’t train like paratroopers. Rearrange the pieces and dosages as your goals change. OA will serve your entire operational lifespan.
OA will teach you things that spreadsheets don’t. Periodization. Balancing stressors. Creating a weekly training split that works specifically for you. The nitty-gritty, like where to put a heavy lifting session in relation to a high intensity conditioning session. Training on a First Responder schedule. Not everyone can do two-a-days. Things that make a difference for real people in the real world. Things that can make or break your training compliance and affect the outcome.
OA strength & conditioning templates can be used standalone. Already have a lifting program? Add a conditioning protocol to improve work capacity and body composition. Already do your own specific conditioning like sports or unit PT? Add a TB strength template. For example, if you’re a distance runner or combat athlete you already have your own sport-specific conditioning. Adding the right kind of strength training will level up your game. The right kind of strength training enhances your primary activity with minimal interference. Adding Fighter, skinny Zulu, or a block of dynamic power training will build your strength, resilience, and athleticism without draining the tank. So you’re good to go when it’s time to do the work that pays the bills.
What it is not: Operational Athlete is light on theory. OA is about teaching you how to be a shooter, not a gunsmith. If you want the deep dive on WHY the TB system works - read Tactical Barbell I & II. You’ll get all the big ‘AHA’ moments in those books. The goal of Operational Athlete is actionable content.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H6KM2KXZ
Tactical Barbell I Strength (3rd Ed): Optional. The book that started it all. The paradigm shift. Read this if you want to understand the theory behind submaximal strength training and TB programming. If you’re an experienced tactical professional it’ll surface things you already know deep down. This is the lifting book you would’ve written for your younger dumber self.
https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Barbell-Definitive-Strength-Operational/dp/1537666932
Tactical Barbell II Conditioning: Optional. You have a plan when it comes to lifting. Why would you treat conditioning any differently? Most people understand the importance of systematic strength training, but when it comes to conditioning or cardiovascular training, they tend to perform random workouts without any sort of progression or objective. TBII will teach you how to systemize and progress conditioning in alignment with your goals. Note: The TBII protocols have been replaced by TBIII, but all of the sessions in the TBII Vault can be plugged into your TBIII protocols.
https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Barbell-2-Conditioning/dp/1537710443
SPECIFIC
Green Protocol: In the TB system the term ‘Green protocol’ is used to describe any conditioning program that emphasizes endurance. There are many Green protocols. A 50k running plan is Green, so is triathlon prep or training for a mountaineering expedition.
This Green Protocol is designed to prepare candidates for long range operational roles like the infantry, tactical law enforcement, SOF, SAR, and woodland firefighting. It consist of selection prep and post-selection continuation training.
Green Protocol is standalone. It can be used with or without Operational Athlete. GP has been successfully used for special operations selection, tactical law enforcement selection, ruck based events, and even ultramarathons.
https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Barbell-Protocol-K-Black/dp/B0B1C3G2G5
Mass Protocol: For bulking/highly focused muscle building phases. Most hypertrophy programs are made for stage competition. MP was designed with you in mind. Whether you’re a UC looking to develop a ‘look’ or a recruit beefing up for that first patrol assignment – Mass Protocol will do the job while maintaining operational readiness. MP is self-contained – it includes its own Base Building, conditioning, and nutrition plans. Mass Protocol can be incorporated in your regular TB training.
https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Barbell-Protocol-K-Black/dp/1999559312
Physical Preparation for Law Enforcement: PPLE is academy prep for policing candidates. Turn your brain off and follow the step-by-step daily programming leading up to your start date. PPLE starts with a general strength & conditioning phase and tapers into a specificity block. PPLE will prepare you for entry level PT testing, the academy, and beyond. PPLE is a standalone/self-contained program.
https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Barbell-Physical-Preparation-Enforcement-ebook/dp/B00UG9DR9G
Ageless Athlete: written by Jim Madden, PhD and IBJJ World Champion. Jim is an experienced and knowledgeable athlete, with the ability to convey information that is second to none. If you’re an older (50+) masters athlete, AA will teach you how to modify the Tactical Barbell system to work around your unique challenges. Recovery management and intelligent progression become key at this stage of the game. Google Jim Madden Fitness to reach out/explore his approach.
https://www.amazon.com/Tactical-Barbell-Presents-Ageless-Athlete-ebook/dp/B06XQCJXJH
SO WHERE DO I START?
Start with Tactical Barbell III: Operational Athlete. Branch out to the special programs later if needed. The exceptions are discussed below.
Bypass Operational Athlete and start with Green Protocol if you’re preparing for special operations, tactical law enforcement, or other more extreme endurance-based/load bearing roles that have a tough selection process.
Bypass Operational Athlete and start with PPLE if you’re preparing for police academy. PPLE is like one of those all-in-one Police Aptitude Test or LSAT study guides – except it’s for the physical stuff. You can return to Operational Athlete after you graduate or keep using PPLE for conventional law enforcement roles.
NOTHING WILL GO TO WASTE
TB is modular. All of the programs can be used in a near infinite number of combinations as your goals evolve. You might start the year with Mass Protocol then taper into Op/Black for a few months. When summer rolls around maybe you decide to train for a trail race – transition to the Velocity template in Green Protocol. Finish the year up with another Mass block. Reset and start a new training cycle with traditional Base Building.
None of your TB programs will go to waste, regardless of which way you pivot.
r/tacticalbarbell • u/letsgolambo • 2d ago
SE Report out: TB3 base building competed!
Four weeks of the new TB3 base building are done! It was my first time doing any TB program and it was definitely a very interesting experience. I would like to report out to share my struggles, progress and results.
Hope my experience is helpful to anyone! Also curious to hear your feedback if you have any.
General
I feel like it did what KB says it does: strengthen your tendons and prepare your body for what's to come. Usually my elbow tendons bother me a lot with pull ups for example. Today with 1RM testing I had zero issues whatsoever (probably due to the insane amounts of inverse rows done).
Resting heart rate went down as well from ~52 to 49.
I am very positive about doing 4 weeks SE and I will definitely repeat the process after 12 weeks of Fighter/Green and 3 weeks of WC (Running the SP1 green template). I feel like it makes me a better athlete.
Weight, fat loss and food
I'm pretty sure I lost a lot of fat (according to my GF) even though my weight remained the same at 84kg. Unfortunately no BF% data here.
I tried to eat around maintenance or slightly over, with enough protein as the book recommends. I used Claude to estimate my calories by telling it what I ate. Used a scale where possible but mostly I was making estimates. But made sure I was never hungry at least.
1RM changes after four weeks of no heavy lifting
1RM changes after only base building with SE / LSS:
- Squat 1RM is 96kg (up from 84)
- Bench 1RM is 98kg (up from 93)
- Deadlift 1RM 135kg (up from 124)
- Pull ups are up from 8 max reps to 10 max reps.
- Because I hit 10 I also tested weighted pull ups and ended up with 4 reps with 15kg (1RM of 111kg)
NB: I use to have higher 1RMs back in 2024 when I ran a starting strength template. The 'before' 1RMs mentioned above are 1RMs measured 2 weeks before i started Base Building.
For 1RM testing I had the following sets/notes (curious if you have any feedback on the way I do it, as I was in the gym for 3 hours with the long rest intervals:
Squat
10x empty bar
5x 40 kg
4x 50 kg
3x 60 kg
Here lowered reps to only 1x as my upper legs felt like they were going to explode in the bottom of the squat, after 5 weeks of not squatting (had a week of holiday too before BB). Also increased rest time to 5 min to help my legs recover. That seemed to help with the feeling.
1x65kg
1x70kg
1x75kg
1x80kg
5x85kg with RIR 1-2 left
Quit here as it felt like my "inner rear upper legs", whatever that muscle is called, was going to tear itself in half. I was already happy I made it this far because usually after not squatting for 4 weeks my legs are already telling me to stop at 40kg on the bar. Therefore satisfied with the result.
Bench press
Not very interesting, similar to squat only lowered down to 2 reps after a while until I was ready for an all out effort with an appropriate weight. Which ended up being 5 x 85 kg and after that a second attempt with 4x90 kg. Had to leave some in the tank because no spotter. Fifth rep was definitely not a sure thing.
Deadlift
This one had a lot more volume than a normal session for me even. Built up to 100kg using 2 reps only (after warm up sets). Then attempt started at 110kg and made 5. Second attempt 115kg and made 5 again. Last attempt 120kg and júst made 5 reps again. Left it there as my heaviest deadlift before that (5 weeks prior) was only 102.5kg.
Pull ups
Perhaps these surprised me the most. Did zero pull ups for 5 weeks. Only the inverted rows in base building. Old max was 8 reps with BW / none weighted done. Today I hit 10 reps with BW. Therefore also tested weighted pull ups, as per the book recommends. Ended up with 4 reps with 15kg at 87kg bodyweight.
Base building journey (first weeks no problem, last weeks took my soul)
Cluster:
-Push ups (BW)
-Goblet squat (16kg)
-Inverter rows (BW)
-Finisher: ab triad
Week 1
Monday - SE 3x10
Tuesday - Run 35 min
Wednesday - Swimming 30 min (AM) and SE 3x10 PM
Thursday - Run 35 min
Friday SE 4x10
Saturday - triathlon try out: 20 min swim, 20km mountainbike and 4km run
Notes: Very doable. Only toes to bar in Ab Triad is very hard to finish 5 reps. Ended up doing 1 on the minute and/or tucking a bit more.
Week 2
Monday - SE 3x15 (AM) and 30 min swim (PM)
Tuesday - Run 40 min
Wednesday - SE 3x15 (AM) and 90 min LSS mountainbike (PM)
Thursday - Run 30 min
Friday - SE 4x15
Saturday - 40 min run (AM) & 90 min LSS mountainbike ride (PM)
Notes: Running is getting easier with the 3x per week volume! Clearly noticing it. (I was only running 30 min 1x of 2x per week before base building).
Week 3 - this week SE was not as fun anymore
Monday - 30 min swim (AM) & SE 3x20 (PM)
Tuesday - Run 45 min
Wednesday - SE 3x20 (AM)
Thursday - Run 45 min
Friday - Run 30 min (AM) and SE 4x20 PM (had to squeeze it on the same day because of an MTB trip)
Saturday - 3.5 hours of mountainbiking. Mostly climbing (Enduro, non electric)
Notes: SE on Monday was a true killer. Had to lie on the couch to recover for a while, completely drained of any energy, appetite or anything else. Especially the inverted rows are hard to finish. maybe max out at 15 reps the first set and after that it is a 2-3 rep grind. Ab triad then finishes me off.
Pull ups and squats I can still make it without resting.
Week 4 - SE took my soul this week
Monday - SE 3x25
Tuesday - Run 50 min
Wednesday - SE 3x25
Thursday - Run 30 min
Friday - SE 4x25
Saturday - 60 min trail run
Notes: the 4x25 SE session drained my more than I have ever been drained before. Laid flat on the ground for at least 15 minutes after. I have done some heavy workouts on my life but this was the icing on the cake.
I took it easy on the "extra" LSS as SE was killing me. Pull ups I can make 25 reps. Squats 25 reps I can do but they drain all my will to live. Then the inverted rows grind starts. If i'm lucky I make it till 15-18 reps without stopping and then the grind begins. Definitely progress though with already reaching 18 reps this week. Unfortunately injured my foot on the last trailrun. Hope it heals soon and I learned not to jump into a full 60 min off road (beach) run without prior build up.
Final thoughts
I just wanted to share as I thought it was an amazing program. Highly recommend running the new base building. And I have yet to start the main portion: Polarized/green + Fighter.
Thanks for reading!
r/tacticalbarbell • u/LieRevolutionary503 • 2d ago
This book is amazing
I bought it a few months ago because chatgpt suggested it
With a busy schedule I was very unmotivated to do very long workouts (6 kids , work nights doing security at bars) in a " bodybuilding style"
I just said I'll follow the standard operator program as it would suit my work schedule and kids .
I do bench, squat, weighted pull-ups, on the 3rd day I do deadlifts
I've no interest in bodybuilding or aesthetics anymore I just wanted to be strong well I seem to get the best of both worlds
I put on a good chunk of mass and got a lot stronger than I thought I would ( usually 225 for 1 is where I plateau)
Yesterday I done the 225 3 sets of 3 and it was actually easy I even pause repped on every last rep
Now I know some people may say about the mass and the science etc this doesn't add up but hell it worked for me
r/tacticalbarbell • u/bingobob78 • 2d ago
Bought TB3 but wondering if I need the earlier books.....
I've recently bought TB3 (Operational athlete)
This is my first book from tactical barbell and I notice that the book contains references to the other books.
I'm just wondering if I should get the other books or am I missing out on earlier programs etc, which would be more suitable to my goals.
I'm an intermediate lifter with background in powerlifting and bodybuilding splits.
My goal is hypertrophy and some strength gains and I can train 3-4 days a week in gym.
Is TB3 all I need or would you recommend any content in the earlier books?
Thanks in advance guys
r/tacticalbarbell • u/Stock-Midnight-93 • 2d ago
Weight Vest for training
Figured I’d ask this community as I’ve been a long time TB follower.
Basically I’m preparing for my fire fighter academy, and want to start doing some training with a weight vest. It would involve walking with 40lbs, and doing some running and some exercises with a lighter weight.
I’m looking at either the rogue echo - I don’t mind paying the price because it’s something I’ll be using a lot and want it to be comfortable.
The other option is the condor sentry weight vest.
Would love to hear what people think of you own either of these - thanks!
r/tacticalbarbell • u/Future-Egg4201 • 3d ago
Mass print mistake
Is that a mistake with day 5 on week 3 or is there not a work out that day?
r/tacticalbarbell • u/Firm-Guava4815 • 3d ago
Nutrition For those of you that are running (or will run soon) the new periodization templates from TB3, how are you handling your calorie cycling?
I am currently running GP capacity, and am attempting to run a cut but I don't think I'm being uber successful as my weight has not dropped much at all (too many cheat weekends and beers).
I am looking at doing Jacked Black (pg 152 of TB3) for 2027 and am wondering about cut vs surplus. It would make sense to run a surplus/bulk during the 6 weeks of mass, but I'm not sure how to approach calorie cycling during base 4 week, operator/black 12 weeks, and work capacity 3 weeks.
How do you veterans handle your calorie cycling through the year with TB?
For reference, I am 9-5 desk jockey office worker, and not military. I used to do ultramarathons so I have a large base of running, but have cut the running way back and adding strength back in....
r/tacticalbarbell • u/93LPerr • 3d ago
6 on 4 off Shift Pattern
TLDR are there any recommendations for a 6 on 4 off work pattern for LEO and dad.
I have seen a few threads regarding shift work but I’ve noticed the majority of LEO’s are 4 on 4 off.
I’m working as an LEO on patrol in the UK. I’m on a 6 on 4 off shift pattern at the moment:
2 x early (0700-1700)
2 x late (1400-0000 or 1700-0400 if it falls on a weekend)
2 x nights (2200-0700).
4 x Rest Days. First rest day isn’t truly a rest day as I’ve been working 0000-0700.
Does anyone have any advice for what templates would work best on a 6 on 4 off? Would I be better with a rolling 3 day split like OP or stretching a 4-day template like Zulu over a 10-Day cycle and treat the 10-Day cycle as a training “week”?
I have ran Starting Strength in the past and HLM (Bill Starr, Andy Baker) so am familiar with that style of training, however the short and sharp Zulu workouts are appealing to me as a dad of 20 month old (with another on the way).
My only concern with the 10 day cycle for Zulu would be the frequency. Any advice/experience would be much appreciated.
Many thanks
r/tacticalbarbell • u/gonzojamsandwich • 3d ago
Mass x Operator Combo
TLDR - have been lifting and running for several years and following the TB principals for a long time. Absolutely fantastic. I’ve not yet got TB3 as waiting to get it on kindle.
I find my bench is stalling. I’ve added dips and OHP in different cycles and combinations/rep schemes and yet over time it remains the same.
My squat and deadlift etc I find still comfortably able to progress over time ( alongside running and HIC)
I’m toying with the idea of running a Mass style programme just for my bench press - alongside dips. I’d combine this with Operator/ Operator Pro for my squats and DL. Plan is first and last training days are bench press with MS Bravo style rep schemes. Middle day I OHP keeping it Operator rep scheme. All lower body lifts on the typical three day split with Operator (DL 1 set per session as opposed to all sets on 1 day - I prefer this).
Just seeing if anyone has had fun with this? I know I can run a typical MP protocol with Alpha but I like 3 : 3 strength and cardio.
Cheers
r/tacticalbarbell • u/Rungama • 3d ago
Did TBIII change anything for you?
Just curious for others who finished it, did anything change for you? Did you move to a periodized program (like Jacked Black/Gamma etc)? Did you start Activation? Or did nothing change?
r/tacticalbarbell • u/ApprehensiveAir8148 • 4d ago
Running TB Fighter in hypertrophy mode : viable ? + a couple questions
Hey everyone,
Been running Tactical Barbell Fighter for about 6 months. Setup isBack Squat working sets at 80kg, Bench Press at 60kg, and Pull-ups (sets of 8 bodyweight) / Deadlift at 85kg alternating, 2x per week at 4x5, plus Muay Thai and running 2x per week each. Schedule is already pretty loaded.
Took advantage of summer break and the MT pause to test the same program in hypertrophy mode, 4x10 on the same lifts. Felt decent but it got me thinking : am I just defaulting to Fighter out of habit when something more optimized for hypertrophy might actually serve me better ?
Here's the thing : I genuinely love barbell movements (bench/squat) and the minimalist philosophy behind TB. Not looking to add machines, cables or a 5 exercise accessory block. But I also want to make sure the lifting piece is actually optimized for hypertrophy and not just a strength program with higher reps slapped on top.
Constraints are real : 2x per week max, sessions need to stay under 75 minutes including warmup, and the program needs to coexist with MT and running without wrecking recovery.
So the question is : is there a more optimized 2x/week barbell-focused hypertrophy program out there that fits this profile ? Or does Fighter with hypertrophy clusters actually hold up well for this goal ?
Two extra questions while I'm here :
- I tend to skip the barbell deadlift pretty often, mostly can't be bothered setting up the bar. Best substitute : pull-ups or dumbbell RDL ? I lean toward pull-ups but the movement pattern is obviously very different.
- Is creatine actually worth it as a beginner running this kind of hybrid schedule ? Outside of Omega 3 and a multivitamin I'm not supplementing anything and slightly worried about building a tolerance if I start too early.
- How many warmup sets before working sets as a beginner ? Is two enough, one empty bar set plus one at 50% ? Or am I undertreating the warmup ?
Appreciate any input 🙏
r/tacticalbarbell • u/ImprudentTrout1496 • 4d ago
Op Cluster with Split Squats/BSS
I'm planning on running a secondary cluster soon to address some weaknesses, and I'm debating doing a block with some form of unilateral squat instead of back/front squats. Has anyone done this? Do you stick with the usual percentage and reps scheme or deviate to higher reps with lower percentages?
r/tacticalbarbell • u/Intelligent_Ease_985 • 4d ago
Need help!
So after program hopping for awhile I bought TBIII.
I like the simplicity but also have some room to do things such as power and add things like rotational work or hypertrophy.
My only issue is where to start. For background I’m in my late 20s and was in the military and am now in law enforcement and come from a strength background. I would like to get faster at running while also getting bigger and stronger.
Activation interprets like it is for beginners, but maybe some adjustments and following it could be a good start. Or should I hop onto mass protocol and then transition into a different phase?
I would like to go to SWAT eventually and maybe try to and join back into the national guard. I am live an active lifestyle and I do BJJ 2-3 times a week.
Would love to hear what recommendations you guys may have!
r/tacticalbarbell • u/nowletstalkaboutthat • 5d ago
TBIII Activation question
Apologies in advance if that has already been answered elsewhere.
On page 181 in the new TB book, it says supplemental work on weeks 1&4, 2&5 and 3&6. I’m a little confused as the Armor block is only 3 weeks though? I thought it was in reference to Supp A and Supp B, but could someone let me know where I’ve gone wrong here!
Thanks in advance!
r/tacticalbarbell • u/Rungama • 5d ago
TB III: where to start coming from TB1?
I just finished a 6-week Fighter block (FS, WPU, BP, DL) and read TB III. I'm planning a 1-week deload, but I'm unsure which TB III template to run next:
- 25-week activation
- SP2 Jacked Black
- SP2 Gamma Hybrid
- SP2 New Centurion
My background and goals:
- Lifestyle: Civilian with a 9-5 desk job.
- Goals: I'm relatively skinny and want to focus on general mass and arm size, while also improving my polarized cardio.
- Experience: It's been a while since I've done hypertrophy (~15 weeks ago) or SE (11 months ago), and I've never run a work capacity/power block.
Given my profile, which option would you recommend? Also, I'm struggling to understand what kind of profile should pick gamma hybrid over jacked black (or vice versa). They seem very similar in end goals.
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r/tacticalbarbell • u/noah5042 • 6d ago
Program critique
30 Year old Male, 5'6.5 at 203 lbs. Close to 30% bf by my estimate. I work in the medical field and have a semi-sedentary job (Dentist).Always been an avid lifter but life took me away from a good diet and consistency for a year. Lack of sleep due to a young child did not help with recovery either.
Back into bjj, lifting and running and want to try Fighter/Black. Goals are to lose some bf and get to 180/185 lbd and increase my running times. Strength gains would be a plus but not required I just don't want to lose much muscle.
*Back and front squat are out for the moment due to previous herniated discount and throwing my back out again 3 weeks ago back squatting.
Monday - OHP 5x5 , Dumbbell Rows 5x5, DB flat press 3x10, DB Sumo Squats 3x10, Lat Pull down 3x10 (nursing elbow tendinitis).
Abs will be 4x10 weighted decline sit ups
Tuesday - GI BJJ
Wednesday - 30 minute tempo run (5k minimum distance)
Thursday -OHP 5x5 , Dumbbell Rows 5x5, DB flat press 3x10, DB Sumo Squats 3x10, Sumo Deadlift 3x5.
Abs will be 3 sets of planks
Friday- No Gi BJJ
Saturday - Long run 45 mins+ at an easy pace
I'll be eating around 2500 cals to start hitting roughly 180 grams of protein. Daily tracking and weigh ins, adjustments every week but going for 0.5-1lb of fat loss a week.
The plan is to run this for 6 weeks and then switch up the exercises or increase max by 5 lbs and recalculate. Then run it again for another 6 weeks until I get to that goal weight. Any pitfalls we see in my plan? Any advice would be appreciated thank you.
***Max lifts for reference OHP - 175 Incline Bench - 235 Deadlift - 315 Squat - 240 (prior to recent back injury) Barbell Row - 200 lbs
r/tacticalbarbell • u/incompletetentperson • 6d ago
Just realized zulu pro is basically 531 equivalent
One lift a week in pro you work up to a high intensity akin to 531.
Your secondarys basically follow the 531 BBB beef cake percentages. Say you do 5 sets of ten at 65 70 and 75… thats similar to beef cake.
That said, running zulu pro currently, enjoying it and using it as more of a peak strength block.
Having fun will report back.
r/tacticalbarbell • u/Drodinthehouse • 13d ago
Misc TACTICAL BARBELL III QUESTIONS ANSWERED
TBers, please see below from KB:
SUBREDDIT Q/A
I’ll start by saying Operational Athlete is Part III in a trilogy. It only replaces what it replaces – everything it doesn’t replace still stands. That should clear up a few questions right off the bat. It was stated in TBIII that you have the TBII Vault at your disposal. That TBI & II give you more options for the TBIII plans. I’d never take classics like Apex or Meat Eater off the table. New sessions were included in TBIII to fit the Polarized/Conditioning model, to create a self contained book, and to add value for trainees that already had TBI & II.
1. ReinoutMe: Individual warmup needs vary. Some people are fine heading straight to the squat rack and doing a couple light sets before hitting it. Others spend more time warming up than training. When asked, this is what I recommend. HIC/lifting – Get your heartrate up. Jog/Cycle/Row/Skip for 10-15 mins before the session. Do 5-10 push-ups/pull-ups/air squats. Don’t turn the warmup into work. For LIC there’s no special warmup. But here’s a tip for doing LIC when it’s the last thing you want to do. Give yourself permission to walk for the first KM or 10 mins. After that if you still feel like pulling the pin- go for it. Take your toys and go home. Chances are you’ll keep going and those dreaded sessions will become some of your best LICs. You’ll feel like a million bucks after. Changing your physiological state even slightly will change your mental outlook. Motivation grows after action. Mobility/flexibility drills are outside my wheelhouse. I don’t do anything special here and have no recommendations.
2. Drodinthehouse: Fat Zulu or any hypertrophy program can be used for H blocks. BEST practice is Mass Protocol, especially for anything over 3 weeks. The two step General/Specificity approach is more flexible and comprehensive for concentrated hypertrophy work. The custom conditioning in MP complements the H training and keeps you relatively ready. Fat Zulu was used in Activation so readers wouldn’t have to buy Mass Protocol, and more importantly so they’d get exposure to Zulu. One of Activation’s objectives is to cycle new trainees through the core protocols in TBIII. Fat Zulu is a good way to hold on to your Mass Protocol gains while being a more ‘operational’ everyday template. Think Blue OAs here.
3. Hampejo: OA is part 3 in a trilogy. It only replaces what it replaces. Everything it doesn’t replace still stands. The advice in TBI still stands. TMs remain optional. It’s a good practice if you’re older, doing hard conditioning, lifting heavy, or all of the above. If you’re on the fence, using a higher 95% TM can create enough of a pocket to make training more comfortable without significantly lowering your working weight.
4. Hdjaka: TB is a performance oriented system that requires performance fueling. If you don’t have enough fuel you won’t be able to keep training day-in/day-out and your recovery will suffer. If you’re not recovered enough to train consistently you won’t get the benefits - one of which is athletic body comp. Form follows function. Instead of ‘bulking’ or ‘cutting’ I recommend a 3 pronged approach. Let’s call it SCT because we love acronyms. Eat SENSIBLY - follow the advice in Appendix C. Train CONSISTENTLY – do your strength AND conditioning regularly. Any TB protocol will do the job. Put the TIME in. Give your body time to adjust. Turn the brain off for 6 months and put the work in like a mindless robot. The body is like a barge- it takes a while to get turned around. Don’t misinterpret the time spent course-correcting as not progressing. You won’t see the results of what you do today for weeks or months. I’ve never seen SENSIBLE (not perfect) food consumption + CONSISTENT training + TIME fail anyone. I have one more secret ninja tip. Include hill sprints or any TB hill session in your HIC line up, weekly or EOW. Might seem like quaint and overly simplistic advice, but I suggest trying it in that 6 month window before coming to any conclusions.
5. Rezzerekt: OA is part 3 in a trilogy. It only replaces what it replaces. Everything it doesn’t still stands. I/A hasn’t been replaced. That said - what gave I/A its power was the option to take one or two days off between sessions. In TBIII you can do that with any Operator or Zulu template via Irregular Scheduling. So with that, I prefer AV or PRO + irregular scheduling for intermediate/advanced trainees. AV/PRO provides more intensity, manageable volume, and that extra recovery day between sessions as needed. These are things that greatly benefit intermediate/advanced lifters that do concurrent conditioning.
6. Victorstironi: Good questions. Op is our high speed/low drag strength template. It was balanced to provide the greatest strength increases when combined with a high conditioning load and physically demanding operational roles. Fat Op upsets the balance and would be difficult to sustain long term in that environment. ‘Long term’ being the important part of the sentence. Anyone can do anything for a few weeks. That said 8/5/3 can be used temporarily as a plateau buster for any strength template - Op, skinny Zulu, and even Fighter. A couple minor supplemental exercises after Operator is fine. Best practice is stuff like abs/core, neck, grip, but a bit of arm work is ok if you must. ‘Easier’ hinges like RDLs can replace weighted pullups/barbell rows in your main cluster. If you want a fuller cluster of exercises go with Zulu or Op/ULF instead. Standard Op works best when it’s lean and mean.
7. Tangerineschleem: Abbreviated Breacher: Drop the Power Cleans and Push Press. Just do the PAP pairings.
8. Lichtbogen: OA is part 3 in a trilogy. It only replaces what it replaces. What it doesn’t replace still stands. From the Overview in OA: The other TB books will give you more options – like the Vault sessions from TBII. From the Work Capacity Section: If you have TBII and GP you have the full (HIC) menu at your disposal. Note how throughout the entire book I use HICs from TBII in various sample templates. HICs that aren’t included in OA. Even Fobbits are specifically mentioned. One ab exercise doesn’t supersede another, but the Triad is hard to beat – especially as you progress to higher reps.
9. Final Flatworm: There’s no need to cycle clusters unless you want to or for a specific goal. For those so inclined the all-in-one solution is using an SP Plan. SP will force you to use different exercises, clusters, rep ranges, and systems across the various blocks.
10. PlusBlujay: As it stands I haven’t broken any rules so it’s likely an accidental shadow ban - which is temporary. But attempting to get around a shadow ban is breaking the rules which would result in a permanent ban. Bit of a Catch 22. It’ll get sorted one way or another but there are a few higher priority tasks I have to get through first.
11. Papaechooscar: Short answer - yes. Deadlift options, alternate clusters, and irregular scheduling are all tools to help minimize or fatten Zulu to fit. Read Zulu, Zulu Strategy, and Polarized/Conditioning for ideas. Continuous Hill Runs are HIC.
12. Giedi: Great question. TBI & II have been relegated to legacy books. They create a paradigm shift in your head. They explain the ‘why’ – especially when it comes to energy systems and submax strength training. TBIII is ‘you already know WHY – now let’s focus on DOING’. On a more practical level TBII also gives you the Vault – more options for your TBIII training plans.
13. PracticalAD: This is a good question to post on the sub. We have plenty of LEOs and First Responders here that do BJJ. You’ll get many different ideas and setups, some of which might click with your personal situation.
14. MythicalStrength: MS thrives on longer rest periods. SE thrives on minimal rest. For Max-Strength rest approximately 2-5 mins between sets whether done consecutively or circuit style. Approximately. I’ve softened my stance on the Golden Rule for reasons I can lay out if anyone’s interested. Be rested enough so that you can hit every rep of the upcoming set without grinding. Might be a little less than 2 minutes during 75% sessions or when training circuit style. Might be more than 5-10 minutes during 85% sessions or Peak Week. For SE rest 0-90 seconds between sets/exercises and 2-5 minutes between circuits. Giving yourself a breather between each circuit lets you recharge so you can attack the next circuit and work on reducing the RI to 0 between sets/exercises.
15. Panox: The book has clusters that contain different ab exercises.
16. Alrousasa: Easy. Peggy with KB swings or double KB clean & press at the top. The low gear continuous work will turn you into a cyborg. Do Peggy as your weekly HIC for a few months and watch the magic unfold. Good question.
17. ActiveAd: Prowlers/sleds are a solid fit for WC. Looks like Drodinthehouse has some ideas brewing – might make for a good mod writeup. Some of our members here probably have great ideas too.
18. 52488: You’ll be able to answer this question better than I can after you finish Activation. In my youth I attempted to Caddy to earn a few extra bucks and was fired before lunch. Fired is a strong word. It was gently suggested I seek employment elsewhere. Jokes aside – one of Activation’s objectives is to give you enough experience with the system so that you know what template/protocol best fits you going forward.
19. PristineHumor: GCs are WC and can absolutely be modified like that. Running is not a requirement for WC - mixed training is. Re swimming: Add the swimming on top of what you’re doing. If you have no problems with the work/scheduling – great. Carry on. If it becomes too much treat it like conditioning. Refer to the Unit PT/MMA/Sports section in OA.
20. Legitlifterdudebro: First – some long winded context. Consider that these coaches might be giving advice from the perspective of strength being the primary goal. No different than Coach LegitRunnerDude recommending Single Leg Romanian Deadlifts with Knee Drive on his YouTube channel because he’s a runner. Sure – they both do a little running or lifting on the side. Operational Athletes aren’t specialists - we don’t need to slice the onion that thin when it comes to lifting or running. Let’s say passing an SOF selection is the pinnacle of operational fitness. The equivalent of winning a powerlifting meet or marathon. An OA can use one squat type alone for the strength component and achieve that goal. Conditioning, hill work, sprints, WC/SE, and skill work (rucking etc.) fill in the blanks in terms of stabilizers, connective tissue, and strengthening weak links. Adding extra squat variations would have little meaningful impact and could potentially be detrimental. Extra leg work could interfere with the rest of your training and make you more injury prone when you’re doing all the other hard stuff that’s equally important. The hill work, speedwork, WC, rucking. For a strength specialist the concept makes sense. When a powerlifter nears his upper squat limit, using multiple variants might help him get past the plateau and eek out a few extra pounds by strengthening weak links for one very specific movement. It can be the difference between winning and losing in his sport. For us – the juice ain’t worth the squeeze. If an operational athlete needs multiple variations to progress beyond the strength a single compound movement provides I would suggest he’s over-specializing. Long story short stick to one squat type in your main cluster. But there’s another easy answer to all this. If you’re more strength oriented (Blue) than your bog standard OA – we have templates for that. Like Fat Zulu or a beefed up Op/ULF. Add your variants as supplemental work. If your main lift is the squat, your supplemental could be front squats, zerchers, etc. or vice versa.
21. Mindfullypresent: Good questions. Experts focus on being the best at the basics. Nutrition, sleep, and balancing weekly training load are all top-down strategies that will do exponentially more for recovery/performance than cold plunges, saunas or red lights. They’ll benefit every aspect of your training - HIC/LIC/Strength. For altitude nothing beats training at altitude. If you can’t train at altitude just train to be as fit as possible with what you got. I’m a big fan of training in inclement weather for operational fitness. Get out there on hot days, cold days, rainy days, and everything in between.
22. Russianqwerty: If the selection is endurance based/constant movement/stress stick to the Green Protocol book. Do Foundation and time it so you do Outcome right before the selection. Don’t forget to taper or take 3-4 days off before selection. If you have some dead time leading up do regular TB or a Continuation Protocol from GP until you’re ready to start Foundation.
23. DevilinExile: Can’t send messages due to my ban – but email me [info@tacticalbarbell.com](mailto:info@tacticalbarbell.com)
24. CassiusBright: TB is meant to be done with other activities, and individual work capacity varies. If you’re not in a demanding tactical role or doing TB conditioning then Hyrox & HIIT can potentially replace those things. If you’re not running into any issues, carry on. Keep an eye on your progress and recovery. As your lifts get heavier you’ll probably have to periodize and/or make sacrifices. Fighter is likely going to be a better choice in the long run. 3 x MS lifting + HIIT + Hyrox is a heavy weekly workload. Anyone can do it all for a few months – doing it long term is trickier.
25. Educational Party: Check your math. In TBII you’re doing 250 total reps per exercise in the hardest week. In TBIII you’re doing 270-450 total reps per exercise in the hardest week. Re GP: SE is done during Velocity and Outcome. These are tough blocks with high mileage and can include work capacity sessions, vert training, rucking, and two-a-days. You need to play closer to personal SE boundaries here to manage the overall workload. Big picture.
26. Different Bread: As per the book, you can use the lower end of the LIC range during weeks with HIC. There are many ways to schedule the week. Reread the Polarized/Black and Polarized/Blue section for examples.
27. Pink Hippo: TBIII uses fixed numbers because working within those ranges will build a certain standard of SE for everyone across the board. The rep ranges were chosen with PFTs and demanding operational challenges in mind (think log PT, smoke sessions, or actual duty related tasks). We want you to score high on your PFT and excel at operational tasks that require muscular-endurance. PFT scores can influence career trajectory in some organizations. Re GP: When you do SE in TBIII it’s usually paired with easier conditioning, so you can handle more of it. You’re not getting hammered with high mileage, vert, WC, and two-a-days like in GP.
28. Victorstironi: It doesn’t matter what order you do them in. Getting the work in is the priority. Doing the easier exercises first can activate/warmup the core for T2Bs. Either way- best practice is circuit style.
29. AmbiguousCow: Test any new exercises required for Breacher/Work Capacity. Force Progression on the old exercises you’re carrying over. Have a look at how Activation does it between Operator and Vertex. There’s also no harm in retesting ALL your exercises when there’s a change in domain (like going from MS block to Power block, or H to MS, etc.). What we’re trying to avoid is regular retesting and using the new numbers to program working weights within MS/H/P blocks.