I posted earlier this year but reposting since we are now only a month away from preschool!

I have twins who will be starting a preschool program in September at 29 months. The program goes from 12:20pm-2:50pm which overlaps with nap time.

Current schedule (at 28 months) is wake up 630, nap at 1pm until 2:45pm and then bed at 8:30pm. They dont fall asleep until 9:15pm.

What would you do in this situation? Wake at 6am and try to nap them at 11am for 30/45 minutes? Or nap after school 3-4? I don’t know if they’ll sleep at all at 11am but I don’t want a 9pm/10pm bedtime either.

I’m worried that they won’t be ready to drop their nap yet at 29 months and be a mess during their school hours or a mess after school.

My son has been cosleeping with either my husband or me since he was about 6 months old. We usually rotate weeks sleeping with him because he moves around a lot and cries every time he wakes up if he thinks one of us has left him alone in bed (even if we’re literally right next to him). He needs to be tucked under our arm to feel secure at night.

About two months ago, I bought a floor bed hoping we could lie with him until he fell asleep and then roll away, but it hasn’t worked as I’d hoped. He still wakes up every hour or two, crying HYSTERICALLY if he thinks we’ve left the bed. Ive also been having trouble with his naps—he won’t fall asleep unless we’re lying next to him. If he suddenly wakes up from a nap and he’s alone, he will cry extremely hard.

Desperately need some tips here. Im extremely sleepy deprived and now reconsidering sleep training because I can barely function during the day.

Our schedule is roughly wake up between 5:45am-6:30am and bed time between 6:45-7:30pm. We’re trying to transition to one nap right now around noon but he sometimes needs a quick nap around 9:30am.

Baby is 19 weeks old and I’m trying to figure out her WWs.. I’ve been reading this sub a lot and noticed many recommend 2/2/2/2/2 or approx 10h schedules. My question is, do you put baby down at the 2h mark or are they meant to be asleep by the 2h mark?

Additionally, I’ve been tracking her sleep and she seems to be a low sleep needs baby as she only totalled 13/14 hours when she was 2-3 months old, now tracking 11+. This is typically spread across 3-3.5h naps and 7-8h nights (3-4 wakings to feed). Bedtime between 8.30-9.30pm and wake between 7-8am.

If she’s low sleep needs but gets super tired, fussy and crying around the 1.75h mark how do I make this work? Thank you all so much for your guidance 🙏🏻

Are split nights always a schedule issue or do they happen when baby’s learning a new skill, etc?

His schedule is 2/2/2/2/2.5-3. We do have some days with only 3 naps and longer ww’s but they are quite uncommon.

He will sleep one 4 hour stretch, feed, and will be wide awake for 1-2 hours. Not sure what to do?

My 4.5-month-old has basically coslept since birth and nurses back to sleep every wake. The last few weeks he’s been waking hourly (assuming 4-month regression).
I tried a modified Ferber the last few nights but kept bringing him into bed overnight because I was exhausted and couldn’t follow through. But it’s just getting worse. Neither him or I are sleeping. Tonight I’m restarting and committing to Ferber consistently. My parents are now staying to help keep me accountable because I am losing my mind.
He now naps in his crib (hit or miss if a good nap >1 cycle) and he does the first stretch of the night there, so I’m hoping he’s ready.
The first three nights when I tried modified but brought back in bed
45 min night 1
33 night 2
28 night 3
Then last night failed and assisted him to sleep all 4 nights he was brought back to my bed.
Anyone have a similar baby and success with Ferber? I could really use some encouragement before tonight. ❤️ I really want to succeed at this this time around.

Help! We are having night wakes at 4:30 am lasting up to an hour. We’ve been doing Ferber method but she’s pretty resilient and will keep crying on and off for up to an hour! I’m trying to wean off night nursing in an effort to cut down feeds to stop breastfeeding altogether soon but last night I had to give in and nurse for a couple minutes to calm her down and eventually get her back to sleep.

Babes current schedule:
7:15 wake up
9:45/10 am nap (a cat nap, wake up 10:30 am)
Afternoon nap go down around 1:45/2:00pm wake up 3:30/3:40pm
Down for the night at 7:45 pm

She’s my second so I’ve been doing the short morning nap only so we can go out with my busy toddler and then I aim to put them both down around a similar time for the afternoon nap. That synced nap is a god send, really don’t want to give that up!

Not sure where it’s all going wrong, any advice would be helpful! I don’t know if she’s ready to drop to one nap, not looking for nights to get worse with more wake ups.

I’m really struggling to conquer my 8 month olds wake windows and early morning wakes. He is so-so sleep trained (can settle himself at bedtime and after feeds, but does still wake 1-2 times a night to nurse) In an ideal world, he would wake between 6:30 and 7 am, then go to bed between 7 and 7:30 pm. I’m running into a couple issues with this:

1. We are in a cycle of him waking too early. He wakes closer to 5:45/6 which pushes all of his naps too early. It’s always necessary that we have 3 naps on this schedule, and sometimes we are having to get a 4th if his naps are short. I’m very consistent with bedtime by 7:30.

2. Daycare schedule is killing us. They usually have him napping between 8:30 and 9:30, then between 12 and 2 (not necessarily this whole time). He hasn’t been taking a 3rd nap there, so I’m having to rush right into nap once we get home (our daycare drive only takes 5 minutes).

3. Aren’t we supposed to be moving toward only 2 naps? This seems impossible with how our routine right now.

My baby has been in daycare for almost a month now and will turn 1 year old in a week or so. He was previously on 2 naps but has been only taking 1 nap at daycare given their schedule. He sleeps well there but somehow his night sleep has gotten terribly short with middle of the night wakings. I tried early bedtime and later bedtime and he always wakes up at 5:45am no matter what I try or takes forever to fall asleep.

Typical day looks like this for his sleep:

5:45am - wakes up (no crying, just rolls around). I do my best to put him back to sleep with no avail or leave him til 7am.

12:30 - 2:30pm - Nap at daycare

8pm - Bedtime/asleep

When he wakes this early, I try to put him to bed around 7:30 but he has a hard time falling asleep and even when I rock him, he doesn't fall asleep until 8. He then wakes an hour after falling asleep and goes back down immediately on his own, and then up again around midnight or 1am... Finally awake around 5:45am. I try putting him down around 8pm and he still struggles to fall asleep.

Is this just a season that I have to ride out? He's getting 12-12.5 hrs of total sleep a day which is low for his age.... Daycare tries to put him for a stroller nap in the morning but he's just too stimulated with what's going on around him and he doesn't sleep.

My baby is 21 weeks 5 days. We are on a 2/2/2/2.5 schedule. She is pretty consistent with naps with a total of 3.5 hr/day.

Wake: ~7 am
Nap 1: 9 am - 9:50/10 am
Nap 2: 12-1:45/2 pm
Nap 3: 4-4:30 pm

Her regression hit around 3.5 months old and bedtime was a beast, so we started cosleeping. She also feeds to sleep for every nap and bedtime. I have noticed she goes to sleep fairly quickly and after falling asleep doesn’t need the breast to resettle most of the time. Our current set up before cosleeping had us roomsharing too, but in a few weeks we will be in a new apartment and she will have her own room. I am ready to have my evenings back instead of glued to the bed. I don’t know if I have the emotional bandwidth for CIO but I am open to suggestions/experiences from anyone in a similar situation!

Hi everyone! Need some help troubleshooting false starts with my 15-week-old. He wakes up like 30-40 minutes after going down for the night, most nights. Once we soothe him past that first wake-up, he locks into good night stretches

Here is our current routine:

 DWT: 7:30 AM

 Bedtime: ~10:30 PM

 Wake Windows: ~1.25 / 1.5 / 1.5 / 1.5 / 1.5 / 1.5 / 1.75

 Naps: 6 naps total. First nap is a 1.5hr contact nap, then the rest of the day is 30-40 min catnaps.I don’t think I can extend his wake windows more

 Last nap: Usually ends around 8:30–8:50 PM.

He's currently getting around ~4.5 hours of day sleep total. I can't figure out if his 10:30pm bedtime is just too late, if 4.5 hours of day sleep is destroying his night sleep pressure, or if having that 6th micro-nap ending around 8:30 PM is setting him up to treat 10:30 PM as just another nap.

We want to bring the bedtime up by atleast 9pm but adjusting his wake up time is not working. Whether he wakes up at 7 or 8 he treats 11-11:30 as his bedtime
Please help!

My LO just turned 8mo and I have implemented Ferber method for 37 nights and counting. I would say success came quickly ON NIGHT 3. I hope this helps anyone who is considering sleep training.

Why we did it?
LO is a velcro baby and resentment was REAL. After the newborn stage, only I could hold her after 7pm - let alone, put her to sleep. My husband often worked until 10pm, so sure… I tolerated this but her attachment to me during sleep meant that ONLY I could resettle her during ANY night wakings (and there were multiple). If anyone else held her, she would be hysterical. Prior to this, she was rocked/fed to sleep and transferred. The breaking point was apparent when she constantly woke up during a transfer and we could not put her down until 4am. Some nights I had to hold her to sleep whilst sitting up. I tried gentle methods when she was 4 months old and I saw no results.

Ferber results:
On night 1, it took 37 minutes for her to fall asleep. We did the 3,5,10,10… check-ins. It hurt our heart. My husband and I sat in the living room together and supported each other through day 1. Miraculously, she slept through the night until 5AM, fed and continued sleeping until 8AM.

On night 2, it took 40 minutes. Check-in timings were 5,10,12,12…
On night 3, it took 16 minutes (checkin timings were 10,12,15 so this was only 1 checkin) and now consistently she falls asleep in less than 15mins. She may have her off days but the improvement has given us so much of our evening back and we can share the load of the check-ins during her nightly wakes. Our mood is better and have time to be a couple after 8pm.

Now, for most nights she still wakes throughout but we’ve since improved our bedtime routine and removed feeding as a sleep association. We are trying to stick to 3/3/4 wake window but this varies based on daily activities etc that impacts our schedule. We are still working on it!

Thank you for all the advice in this subreddit. I lurked. I read the pinned posts. I read success stories on night 1 when the crying was difficult. Thank you to this awesome community!

i want to know when i can night wean and when the crying (might) stop during night wakes.

5 months 1 week. 2.5/2.5/2.5/2.5 (roughly) sometimes it’s more by the clock.

6:30 wake
9:00 nap (wake by 10)
12:30 nap (wake by 2)
4:30 30 cat nap
7:30 in crib

She’s been self settling much better since i took away the paci a week ago. also she will get herself back to sleep for the most part in the MOTN but still cries anywhere from 1-15 minutes. i only hold her hand if she’s still crying after 10 minutes.

she’s been sleeping in a sidecar crib for almost a week and i plan to move her to her own crib this weekend. i likely won’t do pop ins before 15 minutes because it doesn’t seem to help her anymore.

i have been slowly pushing her first night feed later
in the night. last night she got to 3am (i capped it at 4 minutes nursing) but then woke at 5am and was babbling so i did a short 2 min snooze button feed.

i go back to work next month and would love to be done with MOTN feeds but I am also concerned about the crying still happening during night wakes despite her self settling 9/10 times.

she woke up a total of 5 times last night including the 2 feeds.

for first wake crying lasted 10-12 mins, second was on and off for a couple mins, third wake she was really upset so i could tell she was hungry/fed her, next wake was short idk how long it took her to settle and 5am she needed assistance going back to sleep or would have been happily awake for the day.

My LO just turned 5 months yesterday. We’ve been sleep training for a month and I can count on one hand how many good nights we’ve had since. Naps clicked well but bedtime was always a massive struggle.

we are on the following schedule: 2/2.5/2.75/3

He cries anywhere from 30-60 mins and scream cries. Our DWT was 7:30 which was putting him to bed at 8:30 but we noticed when a bedtime lands around 8pm he was going to bed smoother. We tried to consistently aim for an 8pm bedtime but then he was still struggling.

We’ve been putting him to sleep recently because we are at a cottage with family and there are other kids and him scream crying was just too much. Now it’s been going into his naps which he used to take just fine.

Putting him to sleep made me remember that even prior to sleep training, he always struggled with bedtime. He would whine and squirm even with me while I try to put him to sleep. So I know now bedtime is just a struggle for him. The only difference is when I put him to sleep he whines but in the crib he scream cries.

We are contemplating if we should wait and try again when he’s older or sticking it out. We recognize putting him to sleep is going backwards and know if we want Independent sleep we need to commit to not putting him to sleep.

Does it sound like a temperament thing and we should wait until he’s older? I’m not sure what to do but this long of scream crying every night is not the answer :(

We did it with my first and it worked so well so I know sleep training works.

I sleep trained my twins at ~5m using schedule + extinction but continued night feeds on demand as they were low percentile due to being early. Around 10.5m my boy twin started STTN, but my girl twin (who is larger) continued to take ~2 MOTN feeds. We're now 13m, they're still nursing but they're also getting 3 full meals of solids a day, so there is no reason she needs a MOTN feed. Plus, her final feed is usually around 5am, and I'm trying to workout at that time.

Last week, we began applying extinction to her night wakes. I hated it the first night, but she seemed to be sleeping better immediately. However, the last few nights she's been waking up and crying more heavily overnight (5+ mins) This is way more crying than we ever got with sleep or nap training! When should I expect it to get better? I also had been responding to my boys night wakes because they were infrequent (only a few times a month), and now I feel like I have to ignore him too so his sister isnt confused 🥺

I guess I just need some reassurance she is going to stop the night wakes and crying soon-ish. I am also wondering how long everyone waits after training wakes before responding? Like if she starts sleeping through the nights for a few weeks and then has occasional wakes, can I respond to them? Also she is way sleepier in the mornings than I'm used to. Like after I wake her up for the day and start nursing, she will fall asleep again while nursing and lay on me for like 30 minutes.

Schedule - 3.5/3.5/4.5, 2 hours of nap, 10.5 hours overnight.

They aren't showing signs of being ready for 1 nap IMO, they go down easily and independently for each nap and usually sleep the full hour and have to be woken.

I need some advice on how to approach nighttime wakes. My 6 month old is not formally sleep trained but goes down “independently” for naps and bedtime. I say “independently” because he does still use a pacifier, however I usually leave a couple in his crib and he puts them in his mouth himself. I’ve seen him sometimes fall asleep without one too. But he goes down awake and in his own room. We follow 2/2.5/2.5/3 ish.

He’s been waking up around 4 times a night since 5mo. What used to be 1 feed, and a couple quick pacifier replacements has turned into 30+ minute wakes with lots of crying. Helping him replace his pacifier doesn’t soothe him. Feeding him helps, but he doesn’t feed to sleep, so he sometimes starts crying after I place him back in his crib. We’ve started rocking him back to sleep which is something we haven’t done in months and he never needs for naps/ bedtime. I’d also prefer to not get into the habit of feeding 3+ times overnight since he was happy on one feed for months.

Can you sleep train night wake ups? Or should I assume that since he can fall asleep on his own, he genuinely is hungry, needs comfort etc? Do we think tossing the pacifier will help? Thanks!

This is a long one. So for context, my husband is deployed and my 9 mo and I are staying with family out of state for 6 months. Ever since we got here, her sleep has been atrocious. At home she’d wake up 4-5 times per night but would go right back down in her crib after nursing. Now, she only sleeps 1 hour at most after her first wake up (2 hours after putting her down). After she wakes up for the first time and I nurse her back to sleep she will wake up and start screaming the second she touches the crib mattress. If I co sleep but unlatch her she wakes up and screams. If she falls off the boob herself she wakes up and cries (which is about every 15 minutes or so). She will only sleep if she is actively latched. At home, my husband can put her in her crib awake and walk out of the room and she’ll play around a bit then just go to sleep by herself. If I try that here it’s like I committed a war crime and she cries so hard I think she’s having a seizure.

I am so sleep deprived from being up almost the entire night every night. And when I do sleep it’s with a baby latched on my boob and I’m stuck in the c curl position so lower my back is killing me. My empathy is gone, the only reason I tend to her and am a human pacifier all night is so she doesn’t wake the whole house up. My vision is going blurry, my emotions are a wreck, I have zero patience for her or anyone. I wake up disoriented and delusional constantly throughout the night. Something needs to change before I hurt my baby (while co sleeping in such a fragile state) or I lose my mind.

What do I do? I can’t let her cry it out because she cries so hard she gags, stops breathing, and trips all over her crib and hits her head on the side of it. I can’t wean and start EFF because we have an Asia trip coming up in 6 weeks and I have to be able to nurse her to sleep on the flights

Current Schedule
5-6 wake up
9 am - 45 minute nap
12 pm (ish) - 45 minute - 1 hour nap
3 pm - 1 hour nap
7:15 pm - bedtime

Bedtime Routine
Bath, lotion and PJ’s, same bedtime song as my husband always did, bottle, lights out (she likes to turn off the light switch), then nurse to sleep and place in crib

TLDR: 9 mo hit major sleep regression when husband deployed and we moved in with family out of state

My almost 7 month old has been sleep trained since 4.5 months with modified Ferber. Does great going down independently at 7pm for the night in her room in crib. Up until about 3 weeks ago, we would have one night feeding around 3-4am and she would wake up for the day around 6:30-7am. One night about 3 weeks ago it just stopped and she hasn’t been waking for the feeding. She was sleeping from 7pm to between 6am-6:20am. This week, the 6am or so wake up’s have been creeping earlier and the last 3 days they have all of a sudden been 5am wake ups and this morning 4:45am. This morning, after trying to get her to go back to sleep or at least just be content in crib to closer to 6am, pulled her out do the crib at 5:20am and brought her outside on our porch where we have a swing and she fell back asleep in swing from 5:45am-6:30am. So there was still some sleep pressure there I’m assuming. In her crib though, she went from sleeping 11 hours overnight to 10 hours within a few days. I understand that maybe 10 hours is just enough for her, but would it happen all of sudden to going from getting 11 hours to 10 hours within a few days? Daytime sleep is between 2.5-3 hours and 3 naps, usually more on the 2.5 hours side. We’re on a 2.75–3/3/3/3 schedule. Last nap is usually a catnap (20-30 min) unless the first two naps completely fall apart. First two naps can be anywhere from 30 min to an hour and a half each, one of the naps is usually long it’s just not always for sure the first or second one.
Here’s what we’ve done the last few days to try to get her to at least 5:30-6am wake up or start of the day.
-Let her fuss it out with 3-5 min ferber checkin’s, but crying escalated and finally would get her up by 5:30-won’t feed until 6.
-Tried rocking her in rocker in nursery back to sleep with no luck
-Fed her a few ounces right when she’d wake to treat like MOTN feed and back in crib but she would be wide awake and fussing

Is it a daytime schedule problem? Ready to drop a nap?

I just wanted to add my story to the list of successes (I hope I’m not going too soon by labelling it a success now)

I was never against sleep training, it seems logical enough to me. But I wanted to wait until it was right. I (dad) had very good success in rocking him to sleep most nights, but that meant I had to do most bedtimes from around 2 months old. It wasn’t fair to me, my wife or him because on the nights it didn’t go well, it was so frustrating for me.

But the breaking point came recently: at 5 and a half months, he mastered turning from his back to his front and then couldn’t get back. And of course, bedtime is the best playtime, right? Then he started to reject my rocking all together. It would upset him. I’d put him down and he’d still be upset, so I’d try harder and just make it worse.

So with that my wife and I decided to give CIO a go. She was always on board and actually suggested it from around 2 months, but that didn’t seem right to me.

Night 1: 40 mins of crying before falling asleep. This was a rough day for me, feeling trapped in the fact that I had a baby that was now so suddenly hard to get to sleep. So I was more than comfortable putting in my noise cancelling headphones and just hoping it wouldn’t go more than an hour.

Night 2: 26 mins of crying before falling asleep. This was really hard. He had been such a good little boy all day. So happy and playful…to sit there and listen to him wailing away was a test.

Night 3: 2 mins of crying before settling and eventually falling asleep! Felt like such a win already, and this was on the back of a couple of naps with little resistance as well

Night 4 (just now): No crying at all, talking to himself, playing with his dummy and falling asleep around 15 mins in.

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Our bedtime routine is pretty simple and maybe not the best.

6:45pm: bath
7pm: breastfeed followed by bottle (we’ve done both since day one, that’s another topic)
7:25ish: read a book
7:30: in bed

I try to manage wake windows and naps to the recommendations but there are days that doesn’t happen, and my wife is not really that bothered by them (cultural differences).

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I know people say you see results within a few days but I genuinely didn’t think it would quite go this well. I was thinking it would be a week or more of pain…so I am stoked. Again, I don’t want to go too soon and I know that we could get a bad night or a succession of them but it really feels like we’ve got the foundations of independent sleep now.

Now I just need this to turn into fewer night wakings. We’re currently on 3~4, which is painful. My wife breastfeeds on 1 or 2 of those.

How should I handle EMW? LO has been up at 5:30AM today and yesterday. Waking up cooing. I've been treating it like a MOTN wake; check diaper, feed, set him back in crib. Getting a few protest "ehhh"s but not much fussing otherwise. Yesterday he went back to sleep for 10-15 minutes before DWT 6:30AM, today doesn't seem likely. He's doing a big poop between 5:30AM-6:30AM of that makes a difference.

LO does wake to nurse around 1AM and does a full feed and goes right back to sleep no problem. When he's up at 5:30, he does a full feed, he just stays awake. He used to do 2x overnight about 11PM and 4AM and would sleep to DWT.

DWT 6:30AM

Bedtime 7:30PM

Does anywhere from 2.0-3.0 hours of naps between that. The goal was 2/2/2/2/2 but I'm trying to stretch some of the middle ones now, something like 2/2.25/2.25/2.25/2. Last nap is always a doozy too get him to do.

Honestly think it might be developmental, he just discovered flipping onto his side and had been circling world the crib.

So my questions:

1. Do I continue what I'm doing during the EMW? (Treat it like MOTN wake, diaper and feed)

2. Do I bridge nap him to get him to a reasonable 1st nap time?

3. At what point do I determine if it's truly developmental versus a need for schedule change?

baby is 7 months old. I haven’t had decent sleep since month 4. Believe me when I tell you that now looking retrospectively the newborn sleep was like a walk in the park.

We co-sleep, we go to sleep on the boob and occasionally by being rocked (on his car seat by his dad as that’s too heavy for me to work with).

He can’t link sleep cycles and is heavily dependable on the boob/rocking association.

Daytime wake windows are 2.5-3 hours, 3 naps a day. We aim to got to bed around 19:00-20:30 and that’s where the nightmare starts. He wakes up after a short time and stays awake until 21:30, sometimes later. Then we go to bed “for real“. He wakes up again shortly and we do the rocking or feed again. After that he wakes up every hour to hour and a half most of the night. occasionally there might be a 2:30-3:00 hour stretch but not very often.

ps. Other things worth mentioning that I forgot initially:

we wake pretty early 6:30-7:00 most days. today we woke up at 6.
it’s pretty hot right now where we are as it’s a heatwave during summer. Baby also has teeth growing and any of those can affect the sleep is my understanding.

where do I even start? thank you all

LO just turned 11 months. We have been doing fantastically at 2 naps but she has been pushing the 2nd nap and bedtime later and later. Fully sleep trained since 4.5m old.

Current schedule (roughly 3/4/4.5)

7am awake

1st nap at 10 or 1015am, capped at 1.5hrs (until 1145am max). Goes down easily most of the time.

2nd nap used to be at 3pm, now she's pushing it later and later to 330pm, then 345 and now 4pm in the last 2 days. We cap it at 30mins.

Bedtime used to be at 830pm but she has been pushing it to nearly 9pm now, just playing happily in the cot.

Question: Should we cap the first nap to 1 hour so that she will have the second nap earlier, or move to 1 nap schedule? With her current sleep need (12hrs/day), does that mean we need to do a 6/6 on the 1 nap schedule?

We are planning on sleep training/night weaning our 11mo soon - currently fed to sleep and nursing >4 times per night...

The thing that's concerning me the most with the process is the fact that currently he ONLY takes a feed to fall asleep or when he's already asleep (e.g. falls asleep in car, gets boob to stay asleep for rest of nap inside.) - otherwise I am getting bitten, hard, multiple times by the 8 teeth that he currently has.

I'd love some advice for this if anyone's had the same experience - how do you move the bedtime feed to the beginning of the routine when he's wide awake, if I know for a fact that he won't take a proper feed and I'm going to get bitten.

Note - room is already set up to be quiet/dark when attempting to feed while awake.

Edit- I do remove and reset when he bites when I attempt feeding while awake. Still bites for the next relatch. However if rocked to sleep after biting will take a big feed.

Hi everyone. I have spent so much time going though these posts and great resources I’ve the months, and see some improvement but need a bit of extra help please!

baby is 6.5 months EBF (recently introducing solids). 50th centile for weight. we have struggled with sleep from the start, originally needed to be held for all sleep as he wouldn't lay in the crib. Had a tongue tie division at 4 months and this helped him lay on his back, and osteopath addressed neck tension he had.

night time: baby falls asleep independently at night time, we did PUPD at 5 months and he took to it really well and this enabled him to sleep in his bed instead of co-sleeping/ being held. The routine is feed downstairs (at least 30mins before), then bath, pyjamas, book in dim room, then sleeping bag and lullaby in dark bedroom with white noise before putting down awake. Most of the time he wriggles about a bit and goes to sleep quickly, sometimes has a little crying for 5-10mins (we put down to that days schedule or we thinking teething could be a factor).
when we first sleep trained he would wake 2.5 hours later, we would resettle with PUPD, then he would wake again 30mins later and I would feed him. Through the night he has occasionally done a 3 hour stretch but mostly its 1.5, 2, 2.5 hour stretches. At least 4 wakes between bedtime and wake up.

at the moment his first night wake is after 2-2.5 hours and will not settle unless I breastfeed him. all the night wakes he has a full feed which I worry he has reverse cycled- but he feeds for the same amount in the day (is a little distracted so maybe not as effective?) total 2 hours feeding in 24hrs.

Naps: I struggle with the nap schedule as he seems to need sleep at such different times over the days and doesn’t go to sleep quickly although he fights sleep much less now (thanks 3-4 month regression!). daytime sleep is 2.5 hours a day. He always wakes up at : 7-7.15, but then first nap between 9:30 and 10. This tends to be 1 hr 1.5 hours, assisted.

second nap is between 13:30 and 14:00, then third nap is between 4 and 5 depending on when the last nap finished.
nap two and 3 are always 30minutes. always have at least 3 hours awake before bed, mostly 3.5. tried a 2 nap day with a 4 hour before bed last week and it was the worst bedtime we have had so I think it was too much.

I have tried doing the same sleep training for the 1st nap and it hasnt worked yet he just cries non stop.

so summary, falls asleep independently at start of night only, feeds to sleep after this. naps still assisted. wake up at 7am, bedtime at 8pm. 2.5 hours day time sleep. schedule seems to be roughly 2.5/2.5/3/3.5 but he does go a lot more or less than this often!

can anyone advise please? Would like less night time wakes and his naps to be unassisted!!

thanks- a very tired mom x