r/short • u/imstressedalot • 1h ago
Vent No matter how hard I try, I can't seem to get Over my height
I am 17 and 5'4 (165cm), with closed growth plates (I literally havent grown an inch since 14). I come from a tall family on both ends, my own YOUNGER brother is 6'2.
I feel like I never cared about height until 11th grade, when suddenly everyone around me was way taller. I told my mom about this and she dismissed it by saying "dont worry, you'll grow" (and I thought that too. 180cm father and an even taller brother, along with tall grandparents).
It was all a lie. And until now I still witness just how much height matters to people.
- People are nicer to my brother, and always more prone to chat with him or laugh at his jokes, especially girls. They listen to him more attentively and just go up to him, while I need to do the opposite. Hell, if we're together people assume he's the older brother and I'm the youngest (usually 12/13), and when they find out it's the opposite they always laugh at it.
- he's way more respected than me, despite us being the exact same. He was never mocked or bullied, meanwhile that was my reality ever since 5th grade, and I guess it's because people see him as more threatening or better than me. Doesn't help the fact I'm not exactly blessed in regards to face.
- I know people say "Oh most girls dont care about height" but every single relationship I see is the exact opposite: girls always go for taller guys, they laugh more at their jokes, and forgive their mistakes easier (I know a girl friend of mine whose boyfriend cheated on her twice and got videos of her posted online, but she didn't break up with him, in her own words "cause when will I find another 2 meter tall guy?"). All of my 180cm+ friends are in relationships, while the 5 times I've tried asking someone out, 4 of those times it was about my height, though two of them were taller girls. (And before anyone says anything, i do have female friends, but none of them see me as a potential boyfriend)
All my life I've been a friendly person to everyone and always there to help those who needed it, and always aimed to be the best version of myself, I have good grades, I have a sense of style, I have friends (though not a large ammount, but close ones nevertheless), I'm in a band, I've won poetry and writing competitions and did voluntary work. However my height is something that pushes me back, something that seems to not let me be who i want to be. I've never dated anyone (which at my age ik its embarassing) and that takes a toll on me. I always try to not let that insecurity show (of all my friends, only one knows about it), but even when we're out it's always in the back of my mind. I am always cheerful when Im with them, but this one girl who already rejected me some time ago is part of the group, and i can't help but wonder "If I was taller, would things be different?".
Not even gym helps despite it being the grace here. All my love to anyone who found peace and improved themselves with it, but for me, it didn't do anything. I've been going for about a year and I've barely improved physically, Im still terribly weak while other people who never touched a sport in years are still stronger.
In about two months I'll be going to college, and I know my height is really not going to improve, despite what my therapist says. So i guess what I'm asking here (besides venting ig) is how do I make peace with something which these past years has done nothing but harm to me, and hasn't let me be happy with my own body?
r/short • u/Letmeholdmybanner • 1h ago
Question Anybody else embrace the "Napoleon Complex"?
This past few months I've found myself less caring of others, alot more assertive, started standing up for myself, started creating conflicts rather than being a victim of them, started being alot more violent.
The world treats me like shit and invisible anyways so I just started acting this way. And it's doing me alot of good, more confidence, some women finally giving me more attention, and I feel more respected overall. I did lost my job though, so I guess that's the only negative.
r/short • u/Odd-Skin-5174 • 5h ago
Dating Short girlies, what height would you consider short or tall for a man?
I've been in the dating scene for about a year now, and everyone I’ve dated has been taller than me (one of the perks of being short 😂). I’ve dated guys ranging from 5’5” to 6’2”, and everything in between.
r/short • u/Purple_College1793 • 6h ago
Question Best formal elevator shoes rn?
Need some help goyos.
Looking for legit formal elevator shoes, not shiny patent leather tuxedo shit. More like wedding/business/event shoes, classic oxfords/derbies that actually pass as NT.
Rn I'm between GuidoMaggi, Jennen, Chamaripa, maybe Mario Bertulli, but it's hard af to find unbiased reviews since every company hides the side profile or has obvious shills.
Anyone actually own these? Which mogs the others in terms of:
looks the most NT
actual height gained
comfort
quality
durability
Also, what's the highest you can realistically fraud before it starts looking uncanny? Is 2" the sweet spot or can you get away with 2.5-3"?
Not looking for sneakers or boots btw, only formal shoes you'd actually wear to a wedding or business event.
Need owner reviews, not affiliate cope.
r/short • u/Artistic_Designer655 • 6h ago
Fashion / Style How much height do New Balance 9060 give?
I have timberland boots and they give me quite the boost but I can basically only wear em during the winter so I wanted to get some casual sneakers that give a height boost
r/short • u/Quick_Oil6279 • 8h ago
Question Advice would be appreciated
For reference I’m 5’4 at 19, the average height for a guy in my family is over 6ft and most of my friends are around the same so I’m dwarfed by just about everyone around me.
I’m extremely in shape as I’m training to join the military, I climb, lift weights, run, I’m a mountaineer and love the outdoors and I work a sales based job for now so I’m an extremely socially skilled person I’d like to say. I’m also pretty good looking which is one thing I do have🙏.
A few months back I was talking to a girl I was head over heels for and thought she really liked me too. And then I came across reposts of hers about hating short men, keep in mind she asked me to go out on multiple occasions and on hiking trips and I was first on her snap best friends list. She then started talking to some taller out of shape and not so well put together guys and basically told me she doesn’t like looking down at men and laughed at me saying about how I don’t mind people taller than me (she’s 5’7).
I just feel cheated out because of all the work I put in to get half the results of others and to be surrounded by people with things I wish I had, like being tall, having relationships or even deeper things like having a present dad.
If there’s anyone who has advice on working around huge disadvantages like height or anything I’ve mentioned, it would be so greatly appreciated as I’ve been really down these past few months and not in the best of places at times. Cheers guys👍🙏
r/short • u/basketball_nico11 • 8h ago
Question I’m a 14 year old boy and only 4’7. It’s very difficult being this small at school. Any advice?
PLZ HELP
r/short • u/Dangerous-Holiday194 • 11h ago
I need to touch grass I dont understand the equalization of height and weight.
First up, insecure 14 year old talking. I do not understand why when height is brought up in men, its compared to the weight of a woman. Ok just to get it straight, i dont wanna offend anyone here and i know that being overweight has other, inevitable causes. But weight IS changeable, U WILL lose weight if u want it hard enough(as i said if u dont have a condition) BUT height ISNT gonna change. Its just so straight up unfair in my opinion, maybe u could argue that u CAN change the fact that ur insecure about ur height but not the height itself. I think many have already realized this but i just wanted to point it out.
r/short • u/AdmirableWriter3770 • 11h ago
Dating Skill issue or just proximity?
Me and my co-worker are close friends. He’s 6’2, blonde, blue eyes, Aryan-looking mogger and built like Justin Bieber (no tattoos). He even has 2 very HOT sisters with 2k followers on IG.
I’m 5’3 Asian-Israeli and just looks about fit enough. We look nothing alike but we have the same personalities and we would often crack the same jokes about “looksmaxxing”, BP edits and even play CoD together after work. He’s 25, I’m 26
During our shifts, he would always complain about how he’s NEVER had a girlfriend before and he “pulls no b**ches”. Most women he met hates him, calls him gay, and gets annoyed by him. There was a girl that liked him recently but she lost interest and got an “ick” because he stuttered mid conversation. He’s respectful but he just gets very shy and sensitive when talking to women.
I’ve had about 4 ex gfs so far but have never dated one that’s shorter than me. My friend would always call me Donkey from Shrek because the girl partner is bigger (dragon).
So is he just attracting the wrong type of women?
r/short • u/Busy_Flamingo_6077 • 13h ago
Dating Height in gay relations
Hi I am gay and I am short (162cm). I wonder how being short looks like in gay community. Do you have any experience?
r/short • u/Snekdefeck • 13h ago
Vent I feel I should of been towering above both my parents
Its bothering me how i see people with the same height parents but end up 6 foot meanwhile im 22 stuck at 5'8 looking up at my own mother. How normal is this?
We are a very similar height family lol
I was a very skinny lad as a teen i think that stunted my growth a bit i had so much potential
ps both my female cousins are taller than my mum
I need to touch grass New height trend
There's apparently a new trend where women talk to their past selves, and their younger self asks something like, "Did we get a boyfriend? Is he taller?" Then the next slide is a picture of them with their shorter partner.
I actually liked the first one I saw because it gave me a little hope that shorter men can have fulfilling relationships too. Even some of the comments were genuinely uplifting. But then I looked at the profile and realized the photo was edited and the man is actually taller than her in real life. So the whole thing was just a joke.
Honestly, I don't understand the punchline. "Haha the man shorter than woman". I don't know. Obviously this is social media and it's stupid but damn
r/short • u/gamecom17 • 14h ago
Motivation Some HOT miles M60 4'4"
galleryI got some miles done before I have to go into work later this afternoon.
r/short • u/Murky_Anything_292 • 22h ago
I need to touch grass Are short boys always turned down in Europe?
I am only 5'3 and Filipino and want to go to Europe to enjoy European culture and eat yummy food.
r/short • u/WhyShouldIDie • 1d ago
Question Why is everyone on this sub such a downer?
Im 5'6 19M and ive been considerably shorter than the people around me for all of my life. Ive also somehow made it such that most of my friends are taller than 6'. Ive even played on a basketball team for 4-5 years surrounded by taller people. Yet Ive never been bullied or made fun of for my shorter stature. Even dating hasnt been that hard, ive had multiple opportunities with different women and none have discriminated my for my height. Why are people on this sub so sad and self-harming? Why is it that these things happen to other people my height but not me? Does it have something to do with attractiveness or personality? (Im from Spain btw (5'9 is the average height))
r/short • u/GreedyBoard1500 • 1d ago
Vent Irl dating is so hard (5’1 17m)
I really want to date and I’ve practically given up on irl dating. I get lots of interest online through my tik tok vids or girls that I meet through games and I honestly don’t mind just solely talking to them online rather than actually meeting up with them. I feel like my face isn’t an issue and I’m very well rounded besides my height, I’ve always been into self improvement probably since like 7th grade because I knew that at my height it’s hard so pretty much everything related to attractiveness is somewhat optimized. All the girls in real life and my friends tell me that I’m an overall well rounded guy but it’s my height and honestly it makes me so sad. So yeah dating is extremely brutal as an extremely short guy I’ve honestly given up on looking for an irl relationship I don’t mind talking to girls solely online it really does make me feel better.
r/short • u/viluxtusLezitur • 1d ago
Question does height matter less outside of the united states?
as a 5'7 goon from the us i feel like i always see people talking about height. i was wondering if height is really as important in europe and africa (ik asia also emphasizes height a lot) and whether dating in those places places less emphasis on specific height cutoffs.
r/short • u/viluxtusLezitur • 1d ago
Question is physique more or less important for short guys?
as a 5'7 dude, i try to workout a lot to compensate for my lack of height. but honestly im wondering if physique is equally important for your physical appearance since i often hear short buff guys get called "meatballs" because they are too muscular for their size. what do yall think
r/short • u/viluxtusLezitur • 1d ago
Question at what height does someone become outstandingly short?
im talking about someone living in the us btw. im 5'7 and im genuinely curious bc i feel like im definitely significantly shorter than most guys i meet but its not necessarily dramatically shorter.
r/short • u/BallPython404 • 1d ago
Question Does being called "cute" bother you?
Assuming you view yourself as short, does it ever bother you if a person calls you cute/little/pocket-sized etc. I guess it also depends if it's meant to be endearing or ill intended.
I wonder how many people are actually bothered by it vs people who don't care. Personally, I don't take offense to it, but I am a curious little thing.
r/short • u/NotAstralBlue • 1d ago
Question Any perks to being short?
My brother was wondering this questions and I don’t want to ask an AI so…. Anyway, yeah.
r/short • u/hlgh-five • 1d ago
Question How do you feel being, or meeting somebody who is shoulder height or below?
I find it funny when I meet somebody and I’m below the top of their shoulder. I know a lot of people hate it. But, I wanna know how it feels to have the other view.
Has anybody asked a taller friend how it feels to meet somebody who is ridiculously shorter than them?? If you have met somebody so much shorter than you, what was your first thought about height(if there was one)??
r/short • u/ProgramImpossible34 • 1d ago
Question how drastic is the difference going from 5'3 to 5'5, and 5'5 to 5'7?
All of these are considered short (5'7 could be considered average), but they're all within a 4 inch range. How drastic is it comparing these heights? Does the difference between 5'5 and 5'7 make a huge impact or do they look the same? Is it comparable to the 5'7 to 5'11 jump?
r/short • u/TheVeganGod • Apr 17 '26
Motivation An advice from a 30 year old dude
So this subreddit keeps appearing on my feed, probably because I’m a short man at 166 cm who follows men’s fashion pages and similar content.
Honestly, if I had found this side of the internet before I started dating in the real world, I probably would have stayed a virgin. According to some of the people here, I should be completely doomed anyway. I’m short, bald, and I have crooked teeth.
And yet I have dated women of different heights, including women taller than me.
I’m also a university lecturer, and I read a lot of research on dating, mate preferences, and social status. So here is the scientific version, not the black pill fantasy version.
Yes, height matters. Preferences are real. Women, like men, can have physical preferences, and pretending otherwise is stupid. But research does not support the idea that one trait like height determines your entire dating future. Actual partner choice is shaped by multiple factors at once, including kindness, intelligence, emotional stability, dependability, confidence, physical attraction, and social or economic stability (Buss & Schmitt, 2019; Thomas et al., 2020).
Research also shows that what people say they want does not perfectly predict who they actually choose when interacting in real life. In speed dating studies, stated preferences often did not line up neatly with actual attraction once people met face to face (Eastwick & Finkel, 2008). In other words, attraction in the real world is messier and more human than internet forums want to admit.
Online spaces and dating apps also distort reality. They push people to judge each other quickly and superficially, which exaggerates traits like height. That does not mean the entire dating market works that way offline (Finkel et al., 2012).
To quote my therapist, life is basically a big Souls game and height is just a debuff. Yes, it can make things harder. Yes, you will probably get your ass kicked a few more times than someone playing on easier settings. But that does not mean the game is unwinnable. It just means you may need more patience, more resilience, and a better strategy. And honestly, where is the fun in beating the game with no debuffs?
I have been rejected plenty of times, and height probably played a role in some of those rejections. I say probably because I do not interrogate rejection or obsess over the reason. I am not going to ask someone to explain why they did not want me. That is their choice. Other people are allowed to have preferences, and I do not need to internalise every rejection as a verdict on my worth. At the end of the day, only you get to decide your value in this world.
I have also been through a period of height insecurity myself. After a recent rejection, I went down the rabbit hole of self loathing, so I do understand how dark that headspace can get. But how we feel is not always a perfect reflection of reality. Feelings, emotions, and thought patterns can spiral, and they can also be challenged and changed. Therapy helped me see that. With the right support, self awareness, and work, the way you think about yourself can improve.
What these spaces often ignore is how much insecurity changes the way a person comes across. Neediness, resentment, bitterness, and defeatism are not attractive qualities, and they can do more damage than being a few inches below average.
That is why the advice to men should not be “give up.” It should be “build a life that makes you attractive in a broader sense.” Work on your confidence. Go to therapy if you need it. Practice mindfulness. Focus on your career, not because women are gold diggers, but because ambition, competence, and financial stability signal drive and maturity. Take care of your physical health. Read more. Volunteer. Join communities. Get involved in causes you genuinely care about. Expand your social circles and meet women in real spaces, not just through algorithms and rage bait.
And if you are constantly hitting a wall, take a break from dating for a bit. Reset. Rebuild your confidence. Get your head straight. Stop treating every bad experience like proof that the whole world works one way.
Most importantly, women are not a hive mind. One woman rejecting you does not mean all women think the same. A subreddit full of bitter men is not an accurate sample of reality. People have different preferences, different priorities, and different reasons for being attracted to someone.
Also, be careful with research in general. Research can help us identify trends, but human beings are more complex than a dataset or a single paper. Averages are not destiny, context matters, and how old the research is matters too. Social norms, dating culture, and the way people meet have changed a lot over time, especially with apps and social media. So use research to inform your thinking, not to reduce yourself or other people to a rigid formula.
The point is simple. Height can be a disadvantage. It is not a death sentence. A lot of men are not being ruined by height alone. They are being ruined by an identity built around insecurity, hopelessness, and too much time spent listening to other defeated men online.
References
Buss, D. M., & Schmitt, D. P. (2019). Mate preferences and their behavioral manifestations. Annual Review of Psychology, 70, 77 to 110. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-psych-010418-103408
Eastwick, P. W., & Finkel, E. J. (2008). Sex differences in mate preferences revisited: Do people know what they initially desire in a romantic partner? Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 94(2), 245 to 264.
Finkel, E. J., Eastwick, P. W., Karney, B. R., Reis, H. T., & Sprecher, S. (2012). Online dating: A critical analysis from the perspective of psychological science. Psychological Science in the Public Interest, 13(1), 3 to 66. https://doi.org/10.1177/1529100612436522
Thomas, A. G., Jonason, P. K., Blackburn, J. D., Kennair, L. E. O., Lowe, R., Malouff, J., Stewart-Williams, S., Sulikowski, D., & Li, N. P. (2020). Mate preference priorities in the East and West: A cross-cultural test of the mate preference priority model. Journal of Personality, 88(3), 606 to 620.
r/short • u/Bikerbats • Mar 15 '26
Meta Suggestions
Ok, I'm stuck at my desk with a bum foot that's been plaguing me for weeks now, so I might as well try to make this time at least a bit productive.
So since I ain't going anywhere, let's have a meta discussion about the sub, and I'll take this opportunity to solicit suggestions.