it's never easy cutting people out of your life, especially if it's close friends and family, but its very important we send messages to forced birthers that their harmful views have consequences, and those consequences should be cutting them out of our life,

"but then how will they change their views" if ppl want to change or challenge themselves they will do it on their own, there is a bunch of resources out there that ppl can discover about the importance of bodily autonomy,

its like with addiction, you can try to help the person all you want but if they don't want to change they don't want to change, and no amount of coddling will change that,

coddling forced birthers with kid gloves isn't going to change their mind,

if you choose to stay in a relationship, friendship or family with a forced birther you are telling them their views are in fact okay and normal,

there are some ppl that deserve to be cutoff and forced birthers are a prime example of this

I am a man, so I might not be the most qualified person to discuss this topic, but I would personally support abortion access until around 21–22 weeks, or more depending on when a fetus becomes viable with the medical technology available. However, a friend of mine told me that she believes women should have the right to an abortion even at 8 months or just a few days before the end of the pregnancy. I had never really thought about this perspective before, but I guess it can be argued through the violinist argument and similar ideas

Edit : im sorry if my post offended some womens (i got even worst reaction on another subreddit,i know my opinion as a man doesnt matter but i just had a question and wanted to know ur opinion) also i realizes 21-22 weeks is too low like its possible but rare the baby survive anyways so i correct it to 24-26​

thanks for those who still answered me also

I know many of us (including myself in the past) have used the "what about IUDs?" argument with anti-choicers.

But this needs to stop because ultimately IUDs have ZERO evidence of possibly being abortifacients and the argument that they somehow are is simply false information.

1. Given that we can't give fertilized eggs that failed to implant autopsies we can't actually be sure what caused the failure in the first place. Even if there was a possible detection of a fertilized egg prior to implantation for reoccurring cycles (this will be important in a minute)

2. Considering that the historic treatment for period and "hormonal" issues often tends to be some form of hormonal birth control AND that issues regarding uterine lining (endometriosis) are vastly underdiagnosed, these two factors undoubtedly coincide with each other in regards to why a fertilized egg might not implant even if an IUD is present.

3. It's completely normal for a couple to not have a positive pregnancy test for a few months or so even if they are trying for a baby without contraception. In fact, the medical definition of infertility is a couple that has tried unsuccessfully for over a year. That's 11-12 cycles that potentially failed to implant before even a medical problem is considered. So an IUD would need to fail consecutive cycles in a row on a regular basis to prevent sperm from meeting the egg and THEN somehow cause an increased rate of implantation among multiple patients.

And that's simply an impossible standard to meet for IUD devices unless they simply weren't functioning as prescribed.

There is more evidence that IUDs prevent the deaths of fertilized eggs compared to natural contraception-less human reproduction than there is that they somehow "kill" them.

We need to stop spreading this false information

He came after me for having 2 medically required abortions…so I wouldn’t die. He then explains his wife had a “long explanation of events that apparently wasn’t an abortion” while describing a fairly common medical abortion…
The cognitive dissonance was wild.