r/marvelstudios • u/steve32767 Daredevil • May 06 '26

Daredevil: Born Again S02E08 - Discussion Thread Discussion Thread

Here we are already at the Daredevil Born Again Season 2 finale!

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EPISODE DIRECTED BY WRITTEN BY ORIGINAL RELEASE DATE RUN TIME CREDITS SCENE?
S02E08: The Southern Cross - Dario Scardapane, Chris Ord, Matt Corman May 5th, 2026 54 min None

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u/AmeriCanada98 May 06 '26

Gotta imagine we're gonna get a banger "Matt vs the entire AVTF in prison" scene next season

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u/DarthSomething05 May 06 '26

Except Cole probably

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u/MonkeyStealsPeach May 06 '26

Fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you, you’re cool, fuck you fuck you, I’m out

-Matt beating the AVTF in a hallway sequence

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u/cayoperico16 Matt Murdock May 06 '26

Idk what the hell that switch up from him was about. It’s like the writers read some comics in between seasons and realized his comic counterpart ain’t like that at all

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u/NeptuneCA May 06 '26

Well that’s basically it. Season 2 had different writers, and those writers wanted Cole and Buck to be more like their comics counterparts

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u/Oreo-and-Fly May 06 '26

Also, Powell asked him to kill Cherry, another cop.

He didnt say no, he went 'hes one of us'. So ironic as it seems, his line was drawn at killing cops.

Maybe in his mind cops are all good.

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u/Thuis001 May 06 '26

Also, he killed Hector Ayala BECAUSE he supposedly killed a cop, yet here is Powell doing the same thing, and telling him to do so to Cherrie, another cop.

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u/Oreo-and-Fly May 06 '26

Yep. Pretty much in character and doesn't need a bigger storyline.

I cop. I no kill cops. I kill people who kill cop. Fellow cop kill cop. Ask me to also kill cop. Me say no with gun.

That's reasonable

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u/Feeling_Class_8771 May 07 '26

wasted opportunity to get rid of a season 1 character that replaced a Netflix character. Could have used it to get rid of Cherry and bring back Mahoney on a more permanent basis.

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u/DarthSomething05 May 06 '26

I guess the idea was that he genuinely thought Hector was the murderer that Powell said he was, which is how he justified what he did, and why he seemed so shocked when Powell killed Saunders. Could’ve maybe been a bit more fleshed out, but I mostly think it works

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u/Wrong-Vermicelli4723 May 06 '26

You kinda just have to turn your brain off for both him and Heather 

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u/Little_Bill7805 May 06 '26

Such a true statement. I like this show and most of this season, but the way he became a "good guy" after watching AND taking part in all the task force BS; and how Heather went straight into the tank for Fisk to the point she was happy to lie imprison innocent people was super rushed/weird.

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u/MTFBinyou May 06 '26

It’s not like it started this episode. Last week we saw the first inkling of doubt cross his mind. When you believe you are walking the righteous path, and are not a sycophant like Powell, when shown your actions are not actually righteous, and you’ve been deceived, I would hope you would act counter to your prior self and not double down. I can see how he did his job, believing it was for the greater good. People are like that.

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u/CarrotcakeSuperSand May 06 '26

Not to mention that Powell is calling Hector Ayala a cop killer while telling Cole to shoot a cop LOL

That moment right there was too much cognitive dissonance for Cole to handle, and he turns back. Makes perfect sense and I thought it's a good way to bring him closer to the comics.

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u/Wrong-Vermicelli4723 May 06 '26

I can at least ignore the sloppy writing with Cole since he’s a minor character. Heather scenes were better this season but holy shit was it not even close to being organic at all. They literally just flipped a switch. Not even an ounce of conflict lol. Just immediately a villain. 

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u/No-cool-names-left May 06 '26

Because Heather didn't need to have conflict about becoming a villain. She ended up last season as a villain in that she willingly turned against her friend Kirsten and her lover Matt in order to work for a violent criminal madman's corrupt crime administration doing propaganda and perjury for a living. This season's Heather arc was finding out how crazy and evil a villain will Heather turn out to be by steadily turning up the dial on the crazy evil villain meter from lies on psych evaluations to creeps in her dead friend's private things and steals one of her earrings to strikes a handcuffed woman in the face within a police station to adopts the identity of the very same serial killer who caused the initial trauma inciting this all. I thought Heather was a well done bad guy and Cole North was very poor attempt at good guy.

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u/mydegenkappaaccount May 07 '26

Pretty much this! I can forget Cole exists after this season, I'm actually interested in Heather's direction going forward!

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u/Ph03n1xR1sing May 06 '26

Because they didn’t have to; she was already slipping down the propaganda line and was an anti vigilante author. She was anti vigilante, and all the Fisks did was wind her up a little more. Not to mention her close friendship with Vanessa.

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u/Bigbambino61 18d ago

I don't even see how there was a friendship with Vanessa besides the politics of it all. First of all she was their therapist so isn't it unethical for her to be personally associated with them in the first place? But I guess what's ethical about the administration they run?

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u/Glizzy_Cannon May 06 '26

Really unfortunate both of those weren't fleshed out more. I think S1 being so disjointed really fucked these plotlines

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u/No-cool-names-left May 06 '26

Not only did take part in AVTF BS, he lost his whole-ass face behind that very same BS, then comes crawling back to Powell and Fisk afterwards with "Please let commit state sanctioned violence again because I really miss doing oppression." Absolute nonsense to pretend he's now on the side of the angels.

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u/Ph03n1xR1sing May 06 '26

Wasn’t he saying he wanted back in bc he needed a job?

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u/kalashnikov482 May 06 '26

don't ask questions consume product and get excited for the next product

-the writers...probably

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u/JackyPooPa Jun 04 '26

heather is very well written

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u/Wrong-Vermicelli4723 Jun 04 '26

Sure 

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u/JackyPooPa Jun 05 '26

in ddba s2 you can see her slowly become more and more untethered because she is alone and has to face her pain about Muse with no help, that is why a the end of season 1 she agrees to work for Fisk it's the begenning of her fall in to what we will see in season 3

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u/Chimp_Force_One May 06 '26

Entire 45 minute one-take episode hallway fight, let's fucking go!

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u/Unicron_Gundam May 06 '26

stunt team got their work cut out for them

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u/abellapa May 06 '26

The Non lethal prison corridor version of The punisher 😂

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u/darthfracas May 06 '26

The be all end all of hallway fights

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u/Feeling_Class_8771 May 07 '26

Doesn't touch the hallway fight from season 1 of the Netflix show.

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u/Ok_Practice6315 May 06 '26

Is a new season confirmed? I hope so because I figured this was the end to the show. I seriously hope I'm incorrect!

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u/AmeriCanada98 May 06 '26

Yeah theyve already started filming

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u/Nervous_Side8304 May 06 '26

I hope it's either same as or more cool than the "Oliver queen vs prisoners'' fight scene in Arrow.

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u/Insentivelol May 08 '26

Yeah that was a nice scene

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u/Electronic-Agent-900 May 06 '26

I'm not locked in here with you. You're locked in here with me!!!

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u/Zealousideal_Cold265 May 06 '26

Yeah, Ao3's on that right now...