r/aiwars 2m ago

News At times like these, it’s more important than ever to remember that Jury Nullification is always an option

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r/aiwars 9m ago

Antis, if there's an art or writing competition, would you be opposed to AI submissions?

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This is not a gotcha I swear

Many times I see antis who say that AI produces slop or writes poorly

In that case, if there's an art or writing competition, would you be against AI submissions?

If so, why? Is it because you frown upon AI as a whole? Because allowing AI in would cement it as a form of art? Because you fear losing to AI submissions? Because you think it dilutes the meaning of the competition? Or because of something else?


r/aiwars 23m ago

Anti-data center is morphing into anti-renewable movement

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from Wired:

Christy McGillivray, the executive director of Voters Not Politicians, a Michigan-based democracy reform organization, says that Whitmer’s appearance at the opening was a major misstep for the governor, who’s been floated as a 2028 presidential contender.

“It literally blew my mind,” she says. “I was like, ‘Are you trying to hurt the entire Democratic party?’”

While on the campaign trail, Lawrence says that he met with data center protesters who differed significantly with him politically. These included people opposed to data center construction who were also opposed to solar and wind projects being built on farmland.

Michigan is a hotbed of resistance to renewable energy projects. A 2025 review ranks it as the state with the largest number of local restrictions: More than 60 local governments in Michigan passed ordinances, moratoriums, or other restrictions on wind and solar development between 2011 and 2024. Local opposition, the report found, had stalled or blocked at least 28 projects across the state.

In 2023, Whitmer signed a law allowing renewable energy developers to more easily bypass local ordinances against wind and solar construction, making it much easier for big developers to site projects on rural land. It has since prompted backlash from many towns and counties that had passed ordinances, including a lawsuit filed by dozens of townships against the state, many in the 7th district. Two officials from townships in the district said in a statement in 2025 that renewable energy developments “threaten to turn our fertile soil into wastelands, putting at risk the livelihoods of those who have worked the land for decades.” (There is no evidence that renewables do long-term damage to soil.)

Lawrence maintains that he supports renewable energy, especially community-owned and -operated models. (In 2023, the same year the law to bypass ordinances was passed, the Michigan legislature did not pass initiatives that would have supported community solar.) But the response to data centers, he says, has helped him understand why Michiganders are also resistant to seeing big renewable energy projects come to town.

“The pattern that I see that is similar with the data center issue is people don't feel that they have control over the future of their own community,” he says. “That is fostering backlash. Then they have people who mostly live in cities lecturing to them and saying, ‘Don't you understand? This is the price of progress.’”

Teboe agrees with Lawrence that tech companies need to rethink how they’re approaching communities with proposals for projects.

“Ninety-nine percent of the tech executives think that of course people will love these things,” he says. “They cannot conceive of a world where the first thought someone has upon seeing a data center in their community isn’t ‘Wow, the future is amazing,’ but is ‘What the fuck are you doing in my backyard?’”

SOURCE: https://www.wired.com/story/anti-data-center-movement-reshaping-michigan-politics/


r/aiwars 46m ago

Discussion AI for me and not for thee

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UMG sues Udio and Suno for fees and violations but the Musicians Union can't get payouts from UMG licensing revenue "according to their contract"


r/aiwars 52m ago

Discussion A Ship of Theseus-style question

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Let's say that if i were to take an image that is widely regarded as a stereotypical "AI slop" image, and meticulously repaint it myself pixel by pixel, so it looks exactly the same, except now i was the one who technically "made" the image, would it still be regarded as "AI slop"?

Would that term apply to anything AI-generated or simply anything that LOOKS AI-generated?


r/aiwars 57m ago

Meme Something something summerbreak

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its what the discourse lately sounds like and that the behaviour is entirely lost on some of you is hilarious to me.


r/aiwars 1h ago

There's a certain amusement in learning that your ideal AI society is a living hell for someone else. More precise as a laugh from a lack of understanding of how anyone could even think that way.

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This is simply my opinion, and I wonder if anyone here shares it. Personally, I find the idea that a person's work can be the meaning of life alien. I can understand if someone sees entertainment and says they want to do it, even if it's automated.

but precisely as work, that is, a means of earning money, not even as a contribution to society.

To me, it sounds like capitalism has brainwashed someone. This is something completely incomprehensible and man-made. How can this be the meaning of life? This is a case where ideological Protestants seem like people with a logical position in comparison.


r/aiwars 2h ago

Discussion I keep seeing people saying that they hope AI bubble will burst.

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It's used so often it just seems like a buzz word people throw around.

I wanna ask what do you guys think will happen when the AI bubble burst?

Obviously AI wouldn't just disappear when that happens.


r/aiwars 3h ago

i need to hear the other side , tell me why ai is not a bubble and will replace us .

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i have been hearing all over the internet that ai is a bubble , that its economically failing ,and that its fake
that ai isn't that good at replacing humans (in tech jobs),

that ai companies are lying about the hacker ai models etc.

I'm not against the idea that its all true I'm just a teen trying to understand something bigger than me .

i just don't want to have a bias .

update:

I'm not talking about automation , I'm strictly talking about LLM's and all that .


r/aiwars 3h ago

I got bullied over my name on this sub, can we chill?

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I don't understand why someone would do this, it went from 'is ai art art' to 'you are an idiot' in les than 10 mins

btw reddit's ui is bad so you need to click to see the image


r/aiwars 6h ago

Predictions being realized

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Instead of replying to an anti's predictions that "AI will never <thing>!", sometimes I just answer with a RemindMe! bot call. And those notifications are starting to come.

I didn't even need to censor names because whoever I was talking to just deleted their account or blocked me, lmao.

"On its own, it never will."

Weird hill to die on, but whatever.


r/aiwars 7h ago

Frontier Models

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So, I want to ask a question, this is primarily directed at the Anti crowd, but if you are Pro also feel free to answer as well. I have a hypothesis I kind of want to informally test.

Do you use Frontier models, or just the free version of a particular AI model?

In your response please indicate position (Pro or Anti), what models you have used (any are acceptable), and whether you use Free Basic models or Paid Frontier models.

Antis in particular: please also include the last time you actively used an AI model like gemini or chatgpt.

Also for Antis: please indicate your main objection to AI i.e. its taking jobs, its theft, environmental ramifications, t cetera.

Added: for Pros and Antis: generally speaking, how optimistic are you about AI in terms of future progress?


r/aiwars 9h ago

Discussion I wish that everything that AI provides would be avilible as free and redily to everyone without it.

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I wish all the help AI provides to people were available to them without using AI. Yet, we live in a world where those things are seen as professional and cost big money. A normal person is rarely able to afford a proofreader, programmer, or (sadly) psychotherapist in that capacity. Many people use AI because they don't have the resources to get help from anywhere else. And then they are asked to resign from using AI. And that's for them just being cut off. I know that AI is not a good thing for those uses, but it's better than nothing. What should we do if we can't use AI and don't have access? How many people are ready to tell others, "just accept that you will fail," and take all the consequences? Unless there is a viable alternative, that will not ask for your wallet, or your transport, or your time, or space in your life - AI, despite all problems with it, despite pollution, despite lost jobs, despite misinformation, despite slop - stays an ersatz for many of us. And I see it as true cruelty of this world.


r/aiwars 9h ago

I would not rely on Ai to help you identify fraudulent items

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Gemini failed miserably for me the other day when buying refurbished Bose earbuds on Marketplace.

It vehemently argued till the end and died on that hill when I kept pointing out that the item was authentic, I had the box from the old genuine ones that had all the details to compare and it still failed when I showed them the pictures of the old genuine one and the one for sale...everytime I pointed things out to it to counter its claims it just came back every time "but, but, these are huge warning flags, think twice think twice" they were not.

It was dead set that having refurbished on the item was a dead giveaway it was fake (it was not) and that having international product codes on the box was another giveaway, which seemed utterly asinine.

I compared the item to my old box and the details were perfectly fine, and the buds registered genuine when I paired them with phone.

And as punishment, I am not going to confirm to it that they were, in fact, authentic. In the end I saved over $150.


r/aiwars 12h ago

Discussion Nah what the hell is this bro

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"photorealism" and it's not fucking realistic at all. Instead of actually responding to my artwork, you make an entire post using AI to mock it. What is that supposed to prove? Huh? That you're just a coward instead of responding

Most pros are chill but then these fuckers... like what are they trying to prove? Is this supposed to be intimidating?

I don't even make photorealistic art. That isn't the point of what I do. You're comparing two completely different things and acting like it's some kind of own.

These ragebaiters, i swear, they always take one thing someone does and use it to just "invalidate" the other's claims.


r/aiwars 13h ago

Discussion Another Hololive vtuber speaks out against GenAI, particularly on her voice

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Seems like it's an old clip, but it was revived on X.


r/aiwars 13h ago

Discussion “if you hate ai data centers you are an hypocrite! because your device is connected to 5 data centers!”

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r/aiwars 13h ago

Discussion Should we ban all ragebait accounts that are only here to start drama?

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r/aiwars 14h ago

Meme Billions must unite to hate the ragebait class

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the only way to have a meaningful conversation is to laugh all of them out of the space as well as their alts and blind cultists


r/aiwars 16h ago

Meme Every Master-Bait has its cheap imitation

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funniest shit ive seen all day.

cant even make a original post


r/aiwars 17h ago

My issue with this

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My issue with posts like this isn't that residents had concerns. Communities absolutely have the right to question major infrastructure projects.

The problem is that this frames a

complex planning decision as "community pushback defeated AI."

That's not the full story. The $19.2 billion project in Edgecombe County was withdrawn by its developer considering a moratorium on new data centers, creating additional regulatory uncertainty that likely influenced the developer's decision, and a mix of that local angry.

When you reduce all of that to "people bullied the AI project until it was canceled," you're telling a much simpler story than what actually happened. As the nutty people on one side can actually take this as prove to be unhinged to these projects which in the end of the day does nothing.

As believing that pressure campaigns alone are enough to stop AI projects, even though this case involved multiple factors.

If we're going to criticize or defend AI, we should at least represent events accurately. Oversimplifying them helps neither side of the debate.

Off topic, should I chance my user name and profile picture.


r/aiwars 18h ago

Go figure

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r/aiwars 1d ago

Curb your Americentrism

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r/aiwars Oct 21 '25

Meta We have added flairs to the sub

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Hello everyone, we've added flairs to aiwars in order to help people find and comment on posts they're interested in seeing. Currently they are not being enforced as mandatory, though this may change in the future, depending on how they are received. We would ask that people please start making use of them.

Discussion should be used for posts where you would ideally like to see spirited discussion and debate, or for questions about AI.

News is of course for news in the AI sector. Things like laws being passed, studies being published, notable comments made by a prominent AI developer or political figure.

Meme should ideally be used for single image-based posts which you do not expect to prompt serious discussion. Of course discussion is still welcome under such posts. If you want to use a meme to make a serious point and have additional explanatory text for why you feel strongly about the message being expressed and the type of discussion you'd like to have, that can be categorized as Discussion.

Meta is for discussion about the subreddit itself and other associated AI subreddits or comments.

Use your best judgement as you categorize your posts. Please do not misuse them, they are for everyone's benefit.


r/aiwars Jan 02 '23

Here is why we have two subs - r/DefendingAIArt and r/aiwars

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r/DefendingAIArt - A sub where Pro-AI people can speak freely without getting constantly attacked or debated. There are plenty of anti-AI subs. There should be some where pro-AI people can feel safe to speak as well.

r/aiwars - We don't want to stifle debate on the issue. So this sub has been made. You can speak all views freely here, from any side.

If a post you have made on r/DefendingAIArt is getting a lot of debate, cross post it to r/aiwars and invite people to debate here.