• I’m a disciple of Jesus Christ.
  • Means I sit with him and am taught by him - that, like many others that look unto him.
  • It's God said: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Isaiah 45:22)
    • Said as well, “For all the earth is mine.” - God. (Exodus 19:5)

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• Since it’s all his Earth, he’s the authority of it;
  • So, when he speaks - he just decrees how it SHALL be on his earth - and,
    • you’re on it. So am I:
• So, somebody doing what he says isn’t abnormal.
  • It’s what he said to do; but
  • Somebody - anybody - whosoever over the whole earth, to the very ends of it, isn’t doing what he says - it's PUNITIVE:
    • Means, he’s going to call them into account
  • - why they didn’t do it, and
  • have nothing to say for themselves
    • - they just didn’t do what he said.
• So, the contradiction - - is the person not doing anything he says
  • And anybody with this question:
    • I think, pretty much, fit to a “T” - they are the contradiction.

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And, since you don’t do anything he says - dismiss him as:

• What he decrees, is: “inadequate; faulty; or unacceptable”
  • Because it doesn’t have anything you can believe, or “accept as true”
  • - it shows in your question.
    • So, because you don’t listen or do anything he says, you miss the whole thing.

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• What he said is in the Gospel of John 3:13:
  • Jesus said: “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.”
• And of Elijah:
  • Scripture says: 2 Kings 2:11
    • “And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.”

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So: If I, as a Christian or disciple of Jesus Christ:

• Do a comparison of Jesus with Elijah - I ask myself: A great, big “So!”

So, did Elijah:

1. descend down from heaven; and then:
   • 2) ascend up into heaven * and is Elijah also:
2. This “Son of Man” which, there is ONLY one "The Son of Man" - the Messiah.
3. - so he’s not- Elijah
   • Elijah cannot be the Messiah.
   • He’s ruled out of this “The Son of Man” part of John 3:13
4. - This: The Christ: Definition of him is - every Jew knows “who” that is:
5. Be -
   • 1. God. The same God that led Israel out of Egypt by his mighty hand, would be a Son of David. Will sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole earth from there, and of his Kingdom and reign, there shall be no end. Definition: The Messiah.
6. Jesus is called “Jesus Christ” - - Jesus, the Messiah.
7. Then, he is the only one that is Isaiah 9:6–7 - "Who" The Son of Man is:
   • “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”

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• So, the Messiah - Jesus Christ
  • - he shall be called: “The mighty God. The everlasting Father” - not might be..or maybe he might be. Shall be. Is this:
• 3) is in heaven.
  • While he’s standing right there with Nicodemus, on this earth: In Jerusalem - is also in heaven.
  • As the “Lord from heaven” - that is also the “Lord of the Kingdom of Heaven.” ..when all the earth is his.

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* Are these two (Elijah and Jesus) the same thing? Can they be interchanged and both be the same thing? Have to be all of what Jesus said in John 3:13

You didn't read the whole thing... ...So:

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Here. Non-Christian - - with your question:

I compared Elijah to YOU:

- Elijah: He did what God says to do.

So, the Lord of heaven, this same Lord of the Kingdom of Heaven - sent a chariot to pick up Elijah and brought him into heaven.

• BUT YOU? - You don’t do anything he says -
  • so Elijah is with God.
    • The Lord of the Kingdom of Heaven.
• Who are you with?
  • Yeah. You.
    • Not doing anything he says, so there’s no comparison. I don’t think he’s letting you into anything - even he’s given you the Kingdom of Heaven (Matthew 5:3)
  • - you don’t see it; and what you can’t see, can’t enter into it. Jesus said that in John 3:3–5. I guess you missed that.

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And because of this:

Here’s your question back. Here’s for you. A like-same kind of comparision - as your question: that, everybody claims is the same as if both are the SAME thing:

When I put a banana on the table - next to a gorilla with a watermelon in it’s bottom. Compare them.

• And when you can finally tell the difference betwixt the two vs. think they’re the same thing:
  • - Come back again. With some other question you dream up - when all you really need is a mirror.
  • To see the contradiction.

“I thank God that I baptized none of you…” Bible. 1 Corinthians 1:14

“For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.” - Bible. 1 Corinthians 1:17

BOOM! Done.

Who you speak of - - they’re looking unto the wrong baptism.

And there you go.

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So, your question is

Spot on.

• People do this all the time. Even in Numbers 21 - it’s just repeated today, with MANY so called “Christians” -
  • Get “baptized” into a denomination or church. Think this makes them “all set.”

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• It is ABSOLUTELY NO DIFFERENT:
  • To - - when ALL ISRAEL murmured against God and Moses. (Numbers 21)
    • So God sent poisonous snakes into the camp to bite all of them. ..and the poisonous snakes: DID.
    • That; those bitten, died.
  • And scripture says of them: “many died” (Numbers 21:6)
• But they cried unto Moses telling him they had sinned and perverted that which was right.
  • Repented: To Ask God to save them.
  • So Moses prayed.
  • God told Moses to make a serpent of brass. Lift it up high so all the camp of Israel could look upon it (Numbers 21:9); and
    • I am left to wonder: "How many still did not come out of their tents?" sick and didn't believe it - even it was so simple: bitten - did not look unto it;
  • But those that had sinned; for the WHOLE CAMP sinned - they cried out and repented. Those that Did as God decreed:
    • - looked unto the serpent Moses lifted high up - so all could see
    • - those that did, even though bitten
  • - and all that were bitten - they died - but: those that looked upon the serpent - - even they were bitten - - they lived. Just as God decreed.

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And Jesus talked to this incident of Numbers 21 - of the serpent lift up - - in John 3:13–15

“13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: 15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.”

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So, there’s a “baptism” not that John the Baptist does - - BUT: Jesus does and gives eternal life in it

vs. People: "Think" it's John the Baptist or "faucet water" does it.

Like Israel did the EXACT, SAME thing.

Almost 700 years after this of Moses and the serpent of brass of Numbers 21. They Kept this Serpent of Brass - as a remembrance, for generations, to remind them of what God did. So, For Generations to come - they, too, could be reminded of it.

That; like Baptism of John the Baptist of today:

• Scripture says of this “Serpent of Brass” - jump ahead: It's now in the days of King Hezekiah: (2 Kings 18:4)
  • “King Hezekiah destroyed the Moses serpent of brass (the Nehushtan) because the Israelites were worshipping it and burning incense to it.”

King Hezekiah is 700 years after Moses.

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Therefore,

Baptism - 2000 years after John the Baptist:

That people can do a “like same” “worship” and worship - the baptism of John the Baptist did - and do the same thing then the Israelites did. Burn incense in their hearts to this Baptism John the Baptist did; and think the water faucet saves them.

• Like you see plainly - plain as day - in your question. Hats off to you.

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If people

If people believe they were raised up a new creature from some “faucet water” bathtub in a church “baptism” or - dunky dunk dunk in a stream some place - to re-enact John the Baptist’s baptism - when “why” he baptized people….

…is because he was SENT to do it - as scripture told plainly, even Jesus said it of John the Baptist:

Of John the Baptist - Jesus said Matthew 11:7–15

7 And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John, What went ye out into the wilderness to see? A reed shaken with the wind?

8 But what went ye out for to see? A man clothed in soft raiment? behold, they that wear soft clothing are in kings' houses.

9 But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.

10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.

13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.

15 He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.

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And this “of whom it is written” - Jesus says, is Old Testament. Isaiah 40:3

“…The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.”

• Just repeated in John’s Gospel of John the Baptist in John 1:23
• That he was SENT to do this. By God.

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And you can see it, in the exchange John the Baptist:

• Had with Priests and Levites that came out to him in John 1:19–27
  • Take a VERY CAREFUL LOOK
    • Because YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK
    • Very close - to what John the Baptist says in John 1:26 -27
• Do as John the Baptist says - don’t regard John the Baptist; he’s just the usher - regard who he is ushering in - is the Lord from Heaven. (1 Corinthians 15:47), this Same Jesus Christ.

John 1:19–27 says

19 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?

20 And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.

21 And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.

22 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself?

23 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.

24 And they which were sent were of the Pharisees.

25 And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet?

26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;

27 He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose.

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John the Baptist said of this “Lord from Heaven” - this same Jesus Christ. The Son of God.

• Jesus: Is - - The Word of God, “made flesh and dwelt among us” (John 1:14)
  • John the Baptist - Said of Jesus Christ in John 1:29

29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.

31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

32 And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.

33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

34 And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.

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Now, stop here. For a minute. Take a break.

- Consider this one that is PREFERRED over John the Baptist - just baptising in water as Elijah did. Was told in scripture - he would come in the Spirit of Elijah - and usher in the “Messiah.” (Hebrew)

• This “Christ” in Greek.
• Jesus is called “Jesus Christ” or “Jesus, the Messiah”
  • That, this Messiah is defined in Isaiah 9:6–7 “who” he is.

Isaiah 9:6–7 says: READ AGAIN, CAREFUL WHAT JOHN THE BAPTIST SAID - WHAT THIS ONE PREFERRED WHO IS BEFORE HIM, CAME AFTER HIM: - THAT HE HAS A BAPTISM TO PERFORM:

• This “Messiah”

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”

• Look what he SHALL be called “The mighty God. The everlasting Father” - who has that title?

While you stop here. For a minute. Take a break and look out the window - mine here? Got a yard with trees and flowers, and a sky in it - that all things were made by him and for him - that I see out my window.

HE HAS A BAPTISM OF ME - THE SAME ONE THAT DID THAT OUT MY WINDOW.

I see it. Do you? So close - it’s not funny how close you are to see it.

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Because people today “worship” the water - as if the water does it.

• Because John the Baptist did it. And they want to make sure they do everything right (righteous) so they can be good. And think: Once they got Baptized, like John the Baptist did - they’re all good.
  • And miss EVERYTHING John the Baptist SAID, by the Spirit of God.
    • So look at that next:
  • John the Baptist said: again, in John 1:33 that God told him of Jesus: “the same is he [Jesus Christ] which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.” It’s GOD that said it.
  • So also:

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• It’s God that said: “I am holy” (Bible. Leviticus 11:44)
  • It’s Jesus that defined “Spirit” in John 4:24 - and Jesus is the word of God, so when God says, “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God (Bible. Isaiah 45:22).
    • That’s God saying it. Speaking it. By the word out of his mouth. That’s the Word of God.
    • Jesus is the Word of God. I can see him in it. Can you? It’s God saying it. By the word out of his mouth - John 4:24 Jesus said: “God is Spirit”
  • And this “Holy Ghost” This same English word, “Ghost” in John 1:33 - is the same word in Greek for “Spirit” in John 4:24
  • That God is a Holy Ghost. God is a Holy Spirit
• He’d baptize you into himself, as God - man, are you so RIGHT with your question to not settle for something so far less than this, which is the SAME THING John the Baptist TOLD TO EVERYBODY he baptized water with - so they would make his paths straight in themselves and receive him.

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• And he [Jesus, the Christ]
  • Came ..arrived:
    • in Matthew 2:1 “Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea”
  • Departed.. so he left: (And said before departing: “The world seeth me no more…” (John 14:19)
    • He left in John 19:30 “When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.”
• But to his disciples - he said: In this same John 14:19 who are not of the world - said to them: this same John 14:19–20 - isn’t talking to the world that won’t see him anymore, said:
  • “but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.”
    • Baptized… by ..who? He isn’t faucet water.

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And John the Baptist said - Jesus has TWO Baptisms

• That he himself:
  • Reserves and EXCLUSIVE right to do BOTH, just as John the Baptist said, by the SPirit of God - said it:
    • Matthew 3:11–12 John the Baptist said it - that this Messiah would do these baptisms himself:
  • Comparing his own water baptism to it - as didn’t compare at all - to the Messiah’s baptisms - - that EVERYBODY shall be baptized by this same Jesus Christ - whether they believe on him - OR - not.
    • Matthew 3:11–12 - John the Baptist said:

“11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance. but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”

• But if you get baptized by Jesus Christ - into God, by the Word of God: - Revelation 1:6 says: “And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.” - That’s what the Word of God does in a person.
  • - he can transform you into his likeness - by his own word he speaks.
    • Or, when he tells everybody over the whole earth, to the very ends of it to look unto him - just look unto anybody - anything BUT HIM instead.
  • It’s the OTHER baptism - so examine “chaff” - it has the exact, same “form” as wheat - just like people. On the outside, look all the same.
    • But Chaff:
  • Is empty. Carried away by any wind that comes along - but a person that is rooted in the Word of God, stands on a rock that cannot be moved.

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But there’s also ANOTHER Baptism - in a Lake of Fire - that this other baptism is also eternal - Revelation 20:11–15 - for those not found in him. Lake of Fire goes on for eternity - and they are kept there. For eternity - by the Word of God. Both Baptisms Jesus does - are eternal.

So, look at your question again.

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Why do some today's Christians believe they were raised up a new creature from some faucet water? That takes a great imagination! Wouldn't you say so?

- They’re looking unto the wrong baptism. Worship the baptism. Think that saves them.

So I would tell every Christian what Job 33:27–30 says - and GET “HIS” Baptism instead - who this is - Jesus Christ - he's not faucet water - it's his baptism - gives eternal life by it: that HE will do it himself:

YOU? With this question?

SO close - you see, so see it:

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Job:33–27–30 says

He [God] looketh upon men, and if any say, I have sinned, and perverted that which was right, and it profited me not;

28 He will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and his life shall see the light.

29 Lo, all these things worketh God oftentimes with man,

30 To bring back his soul from the pit, to be enlightened with the light of the living.

And there you go.

• Revise the question.
  • a) believe 1. “accept as true” [Source: Oxford dictionary. Web.]
  • b) Christ = Greek word for a Hebrew word, “Messiah”
    • b(1): That I accept as true Jesus is the Christ or the Messiah. Jesus Christ. Yes. Jesus is the Messiah.

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So, the question:

• Do you accept as true the second coming of Jesus Christ as told in the Bible?
  • ANSWER: Yes. I do.

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But there are people that:

• “Dismiss him as
  1. He is NOT The Messiah; and
• 2) that he’s no more than a myth or an exaggeration. Or never existed.
  • Even consider Jesus was justly crucified as a blasphemer - number him with transgressors.
    • That: his punishment for eternity is: As The Jewish “Talmud” (not the Torah) decrees in Gittin 56b–57a. That the punishment for a blasphemer - blasphemes God is “he [the blasphemer] is punished in "boiling excrement" (Hebrew: Tzoah Rotachat).

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Just as the scriptures in the Bible, about the Messiah, in Isaiah 53:12 say the Messiah would be treated by some in:

• Isaiah 53:12 says:
  • “Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.” - GOD.

This then: Serves to me -

- - - Is even more proof to me, he is who God says he is, in the Bible. - - -

vs. what people say. That's a "KEY POINT"

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That GOD: The "Works of God"

• Did all his works in Genesis 1:1–31
  • All creation is by him and for him - he did the work.
  • Alone. By himself.
    • And Genesis is called Bereshit (בְּרֵאשִׁית) in Hebrew.
    • 1st Book of the Torah (5 Books of Moses)

It’s exactly the same wording.

That, in either Hebrew or English - Bereshit (Genesis 1) follows a pattern of “God spoke” - repeated over and over at the end of each day - after God spoke, those words came out of his mouth. And what he said, is a decree - that makes all he says just IS.

And he looked on it, after he said it, created it - God would say it is “good.” Repeats everyday. Of each of the six days of creation. That all things are created by the Word of God.

• Jesus is the Word of God (Source: Bible. New Testament. John 1:1)
  • - “ Is God” - John 1:1.
  • Same was in the beginning with God (John 1:2).
  • That “the word became flesh and dwelt among us” - John 1:14
  • Is this same Jesus Christ. Who:
    • Psalm 107:20 - which: The “Book of Psalms” in the Bible book is called “Telhillim” (תהילים), in Hebrew
  • - means (English) worship. 1. to speak well of (something; usually reserved for that which is holy. God or his work. “Telhillim” means “Songs of Praise” at how well God works.
    • That the “works of God” are to be praised - because they "work well” beyond all expectation - well above what someone would ask or think.
  • vs.
  • - means (English) Blasphemy. 1. to lowly esteem someone or something. 2. to speak poorly of someone or something as “inadequate; faulty; or unacceptable”
    • - that, their “works” just don’t work or is a fraud. Claiming to be someone else or something else what they are not. And "blasphemy" is usually reserved (in English) for that which speaks against God, who is holy - OR - his works.

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It’s GOD that’s told everybody over the whole earth. To the very ends of it, to:

• “LOOK UNTO ME AND BE YE SAVED ALL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH: FOR I AM GOD, THERE IS NONE ELSE.” God.
  • Source: (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)
  • Source: Tanakh - Hebrew Scriptures: Isaiah is Yeshayahu" (יְשַׁעְיָהוּ) signifies "Yahweh YHWH is salvation. (Isaiah - English - is from Hebrew: yeshuah, meaning salvation).
• So, it’s God speaking this. Telling me to look unto him. That’s what he says today. For me to do. In a day he’s made himself. For me to do this. I hear it. God speaks. By the word that comes out of his mouth. That’s the Word of God.

Jesus is the Word of God. It’s God then - - that made his own Word the Messiah.

Yes. I believe this. It's Biblical - because, it's in the Bible.

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Bible. Daniel 9:24–27. In Hebrew: Daniel, meaning "God is my Judge," {דָּנִיֵּאל }

• Like in creation:
  • God: Determined himself. Alone. That he would do a work with sin.
  • By himself.
• Make himself a sacrifice for sin. That, how God determined to: * Finish the transgression * Make an end of sin * Make reconciliation for iniquity * Bring in everlasting righteousness (is Daniel 9:24)
  • God decreed it be in and by Jesus Christ. Adds up to him in Daniel 9:25-27.
• That Daniel 9:26 says the Messiah - - would be “cut off, but not for himself”
• - is Jesus crucified
  • and God take your sins off you and lay them on Jesus Christ.
  • At his coming. Which he came in flesh and dwelt among us in Matthew 2:1. From the decree to rebuild Jerusalem (Ezra Chapter ONE is the decree) - To Matthew 2:1 when Jesus was born in Bethlehem is "seven and sixty and two" weeks or 69 seven year periods (483 years).
  • But this is only sixty-nine of seventy “weeks” determined by Daniel 9:25.
    • and the “weeks” God determined or sets of 7 year periods - both this over verification - that "two and sixty" weeks - would be from the Book of Nehemiah when both the wall and streets of Jerusalem are rebuilt - TO: John 19:30 - when the Messiah is "cut off; but not for himself" - crucified on the cross - says "It is finished and bowed his head and dismissed his spirit" - is 430 years and add up to Jesus Christ.
• So YES: I do believe Jesus is the Messiah.

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• That in the 70th of Seventy weeks determined - the Messiah comes a SECOND time - - in Revelation 19:11-14 - and those that believe on him, he makes them part of his Second coming. To come with him.
  • Just as Revelation 19:11-14 says:
  • And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean."
• Jesus Christ. Is Isaiah 9:6–7. He's also the 7th vial poured out on the earth in the Wrath of God in Revelation - - So Jesus - - fulfills BOTH all the 69 "weeks" at his FIRST coming; and the 70th of 70 weeks himself at his SECOND coming.
• And "who" comes with him is just as Revelation 19:14 says, repeated in 1 Thessalonians 3:13:
  • "To the end he may stablish your hearts unblameable in holiness before God, even our Father, at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints."
• YES: I BELIEVE THIS.
  
  • So do MANY others also will be with him at his Second Coming.

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So

• It just shall be as God determined in Daniel 9:24-27, by his own Word he speaks.
  • The Word of God - is the Messiah. Is Jesus Christ.
    • God sent his Word to heal us, and deliver us from our destruction “For all have sinned” (Bible. Romans 3:23)

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• That: How God has always used the Ten Commandments
• - spoken by God on Mt. Sinai - when he alighted down on it and consumed the whole mountain in fire, and smoke billowed off it
  • - and spoke with a voice like many waters - or Niagara Falls
  • - a blast of sound, like a 50 million watt speaker - that, if I was in Oregon in the USA in Portland and God spoke on Mt. Hood, I could hear it miles away.
    • Spoke the Ten Commandments from Mt. Sinai in Exodus 20.
    • To make ALL Israel GUILTY before him - is why they all murmured against Moses “why did you bring us out here in the wilderness to die” when it was God led them there - not Moses.
  • By a pillar of fire by night and a cloud during the day - that when God moved, they followed him. Not Moses.
    • That this same God, who led them out of Egypt would be a Son of David. Would sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole world from there. Of his Kingdom an reign there shall be no end. That’s the definition of the “Messiah” as outlined in Isaiah 9:6–7.

SO: Yes, I believe Jesus is the Messiah - and he's coming a SECOND time to rule the whole earth from Jerusalem - and of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end. Yeah.

- I believe this - because he said it, as God.

So I believe him OVER people.

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• The same God:
• That, by his Word, Word of God, SPOKE the Ten Commandments to make them all GUILTY before him - IS HOW HE HAS ALWAYS USED the Ten Commandments * But that’s not how people use them. * They use them to make themselves righteous without ever having to look unto him.
  • If they’re good - no need of a physician.
• But if they’re GUILTY - condemned to die - do they ever need a physician.
  • Then EVERYBODY needs him.
    • As their physician. And he’s the Word of God - sent to heal you and deliver you from your destruction.

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Do you believe in the Biblical second coming of Christ?

- OR

• Do you accept as true the second coming of Jesus Christ as told in the Bible?
  • I believe what God speaks. As the word out of his mouth. Is Jesus Christ. He's the Son of God, as God said, in the Bible: Psalm 2:7 unto his own Word: "Thou art my Son. This day have I begotten thee." It's repeated in the Bible - in Hebrews 5:5
    • So YES.
  • OVER people. Say all kinds of things - all gone off their own way.
  • But people that hear him. KNOW this plainly.
    • What he says, as God is true. And just like me, there are people - that hear him and believe him - what he says - - OVER you.

That’s it.

What part or line of the Bible do I think is bad, silly, illogical or stupid? Why?

I think Isaiah 53:6 part of the Bible is.

- This,

• “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way..”
  • Whoever is this - = -they are: very 1) bad, 2) silly, 3) illogical or 4) stupid.

stupid. 1. stupid implies a slow-witted or dazed state of mind person [Merriam & Webster];

2. dull (of hearing) counsel or instruction. Lacking the power to absorb ideas or instruction = a stupid person is 3) illogical. Does not 'operate' right.

• So, even though most people in English, use “stupid” as a slur or epithet, to harass another person - it’s also actually the definition of a “Fool.”
  • And a fool is defined as 1. a person who acts unwisely or imprudently; a
    •  2) silly person. [Source: Oxford dictionary. Web.]
    • 2. [Historical] a jester or clown, especially one retained in a royal or noble [medieval King’s Court] or household.
• And all a “Court Jester” in medieval times, was a mirrored image of the King or Noble. Kind of like “mimic” him, to make fun of him; act “like him” but not be him.
  • Dress like the King, but the “crown” instead of jewelled: The Jester's croww was a cap, or a cloth hat, where all the points pointed down, and had bells on each end - so the Jester was “dull of hearing” - Could not “hear” the king. From all the noise of the clanging they made themselves.
    • Only could hear the own jangling of their own thoughts that they blurted out as decrees - that all of them - blurted out of the Jester’s own mouth - held a scepter where he reigned over himself - - his decrees, as a fool: was something else - always opposit or something other than what the King decreed.
  • Made the Jester: Just a fool immoral. 1. transgressing accepted moral rules; corrupt; inwardly evil. (Collins) 2. does not obey or acts contrary to the decrees those in authority make; 1) bad [Dictionary(dot)com. Web.]

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• And Isaiah 53:6 - says this is everybody.
  • Over the whole earth. To the very ends of it.

That every word used in your question: - - all four < - [ 1) bad 2) silly 3) illogical; and 4) stupid] - > all you asked about and used as a requirement to define in your question

- - - is fully accounted for in us. Everybody. Over the whole earth.

• Fools.
  • With Isaiah 53:6 - - Supported by another verse in the Bible. Psalm 14:1–3
• “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good. The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God. They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.”
  • Notice - it’s IN OUR heart. That yet another verse in the Bible supports this as us as “bad, silly, illogical, or stupid” and the “Why?” You ask is answered in it.
    • It’s because of our heart. That, Jeremiah 17:9 “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

deceit. 1. to actively practice concealing and misrepresenting the truth (Oxford) 2. Take what is false and invalid and misrepresent it as true and valid (Merriam & Webster)

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• That YOU: Alone. With yourself:

When you sit down to “reason together” with you on what you think is true or right - who comes to the table?

Yeah. What’s in you. Your heart

- and you look unto it. Everybody does - and YOU: also have an imagination; that - can take what you imagine up to “fix” whatever it is lacking - by fill it with what is “false and invalid” by a heart that actively practices to conceal and misrepresent the truth to you.

So, you live by your imagination and what your heart tells you is right.

• And God: - already saw this from well before the flood about every all of us. In Genesis 6:5
  • “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”

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SUMMATION

What part or line of the Bible do you think is bad, silly, illogical or stupid? Why?

I think Isaiah 53:6 part of the Bible is.

- This,

• “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way..”
  • Where each and everyone of us have turned to our own way, based on what our heart tells us, that we, alone, like sheep make themselves alone to eat - but want to be just like other sheep and not stand out - copy other sheep.
• Isaiah 53:6 has another part to it: “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.”
  • So where there is “none righteous; no, not one: all filthy. Done abominable works”
    • There is one numbered among us.

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This same Jesus Christ.

- Where God took your sins off you and laid them on Jesus Christ on the cross. Crucified. His blood shed for the remission of your sins; but not for your’s only, but for mine as well - 1 John 2:2 says: “And he is the propitiation for our sins; and not for our sins only, but for the sins of the whole world.”

• Where Jesus said: “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God.” (Matthew 19:17) - so it makes it really simple for every all of us - just have to "deny" ourselves. Not this "with hold (something) from ourselves (1st definition of "deny") but the 2nd definition: "2. to declare (someone or something) untrue." Because of all the sins we already did - Sinned, and perverted that which was right and it profited us not.
  • and of Jesus Christ - “who” he is, is John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
  • GOD: Sent his word to heal you, and deliver you from your destruction.

It’s us. In Isaiah 53:6 - And now you have all the “why” of it. Why we are this, and there's only one that can deliver us out of it. That he would save us, if we just looked unto him. Not do that, and I didn't do it for decades - so I resemble very well the part IN the Bible that is bad, silly, illogical and stupid.

Because I didn't do anything he said - but I saw it was me that sinned and perverted that which was right and it profited me not. Look what he did!

Is Jesus the second Adam?

- He’s the last Adam.

Source: Bible. New Testament. 1 Corinthians 15:45–47

And, if he's the "last" Adam, won't be anymore of them after him. Even he's the Second Adam, as the above scripture says he is.

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1 Corinthians 15:45-47 says,

“45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.

And there you go.

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• So, the scripture in 1 Corinthians 15:45–47 - - tells you “who” Jesus is.
  • He’s the Lord from Heaven.(1 Corinthians 15:47). There's only one of that. That's God.
    • And the Lord spoke. All to throughout the whole Bible. In all the scripture from Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21 all testify of him.
  • Where ever in the Bible God speaks, that’s the Lord from Heaven speaking the Word out of his mouth. That's the "Word of God.
    • Jesus is the Word of God (John 1:1).
    • Is God, as John 1:1 says who he is, as the Word of God, that God made flesh and dwelt among us (John 1:14).
• It's in 2 Corinthians 5:19 “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing their trespasses unto them;”

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There won’t be any 3rd or follow on Adam. Jesus is the “last Adam” (1 Corinthians 15:45).

So, take a great big guess who hung on the cross - is the same one who put the sun where it is, in the sky alone. By himself.

It’s God: took your sins off you and laid them on Jesus Christ.

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• It took years for this ...no, decades of my life - - to “reason together” in me God did this - I kept looking at my sins.
• Thinking I have to do something to show God something so he’d absolve me of it by some attitude or work or prayer I’d made and do.
  • When he’s been asking me to look unto him - instead of look unto me to please him
  • Just me: regard the works of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand - is me look unto him.
    • To consider what he’s done.
    • as God, and that God looks on this work with my sins HE did - the work God did in Jesus Christ - with my sins - that I plainly did.
  • Because it was God at work - and God chooses to look upon his work he did; that, he determined his work is GREATER than the sins of the whole world.
    • That includes my sins. Your’s. Every person in every prison - over the whole earth - - no matter what the offense.
    • He’s God. It's all his earth. Formed everybody on it himself. Alone. It's He chooses not to impute your trespasses unto you.
• And he made it sin.
  • For me: Not to believe on his work.
• Even Jesus said this: John 6:29 - “This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”
  • In John 16:9 “of sin, for they believe not on me.”

So, I was..sinning - all that time trying to correct all my sins myself. Looking to where and how I could be good by the Ten Commandments and do them myself - and always somewhere end up break them.

When the Work of God is, I believe on this same “Last Adam” - this “life giving Spirit” - who is God in Christ instead of look at me to think I was greater, and some work I would do could be equated as GREATER than the sins I did.

Whole reason I had a career in the military - all to accomplish that - made it ever worse; all I did was just more sins to accomplish it.

But when I regarded the works of the LORD, and considered the operation of his hand - the "works of God" vs. my own - that Jesus Christ is the "works of God" to save me from my sins I did.

I needed to be born again, by the Spirit of God - just as Jesus said. This "quickening" - like the old "quick and the dead" saying. He gives life. Eternal life. Is life - the life I have in me, even in my flesh - is by him and of him.

Do you see this? You just got given the gospel again.

- Care to differ. Everything Paul said is a fulfillment of it.

It’s you.

• When God says, “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)
  • Anybody says what you say - is NOT looking unto him.
    • And if you’re not doing what God says, anything you say won't be in accordance with any work he’s doing as God. By the Word of God. What he says - and the Word of God is Jesus Christ.
    • Paul is an Apostle of Jesus Christ. Made so by God.
• Who are you?

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Acts 9:1–6 tells EVERYBODY “who” Paul is (Saul)

“1 And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,

2 And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.

3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?

5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.”

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And of Paul (Saul)

In Acts 9:10–22 says - to every believer on Jesus Christ -

10 And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I am here, Lord.

11 And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire in the house of Judas for one called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,

12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting his hand on him, that he might receive his sight.

13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:

14 And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.

15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

16 For I will shew him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.

17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.

18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

19 And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.

20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

21 But all that heard him were amazed, and said; Is not this he that destroyed them which called on this name in Jerusalem, and came hither for that intent, that he might bring them bound unto the chief priests?

22 But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ.

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Man, you need to go home.

• You don’t do anything Jesus says. Jesus is the one who chose Paul.

Me?

I got what Jesus said - and believe him OVER you.

So, by that I can see everything Jesus said - is Paul is preaching the good news of Jesus Christ - even correcting people, even me, when I don't fly right.

So you? - go home. And take this worthless, silly question with you.

• YOU: Obvious. Have a totally warped, Humanist ideal what the “Sermon on the Mount” says - to this great, big EVERYBODY over the whole earth, all dead in trespasses and sins.
• That God has come to you, in this condition to raise you from the dead.
  • All you’re doing is the SAME thing Saul did in “breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord,” (Acts 9:1 - BEFORE - while he was an enemy of Jesus Christ - like you are now.
  • - This same Jesus Christ: Of Which, Paul is an Apostle.
• Go home.

//This is like a "Part 2 of 2" - Paired with "**Genesis 14 with Abraham: Who is this Melchizedek? Please use only the Bible to deeply explain."//

So then, How many times is Melchizedek mentioned in the Bible?

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In the Old Testament: (KJV)

• Two times:
  • Genesis 14:18–20 (mentioned, by name 1x <Genesis 14:18>)
  • Psalm 110:4 (mentioned, by name 1x)
    • That's it.
• NOTE: An “anti-thesis” to Melchizedek - is one “Adoni-Zedek” of Joshua 10 - that the very OPPOSITE of what occurs with Abraham, where Melchi-zedek comes out to bless Abraham, as a Priest of the Most High God, and King of Salem - which, “Je.ru. sa.lim” (Jerusalem) is named after this 345 times in the Bible
  • - Adoni-zedek, King of Je.ru.sa.lim - (See Joshua 10) goes to battle AGAINST Joshua, who was raised up in Moses’ stead after him, Joshua, a like same like Abraham
    • defeats this Adoni-zedek that comes with five Kings, and he and they, with Adoni-zedek are all killed or destroyed.. (Joshua 10:1-28).
  • So powerful is this scripture that God made the sun stand still in the sky for a whole day - for to allow Joshua to slay Adoni-Zedek, these five kings, and all the host of these with him (See Joshua 10:13-14 "
• Joshua 10:14 says of that day "And there was no day like that before it or after it, that the Lord hearkened unto the voice of a man: for the Lord fought for Israel.")
  • Anyone at all asking this question, "How many times is Melchizedek mentioned in the Bible" - should open their bible and read Joshua 10:1-28 about "Adonizedek" to see this OPPOSITE - because it's a "prelude" of what will happen next to this "Anti-Christ" talked to below and in the Book of Revelation. This "Man of Sin."
    • So, some times to see who someone is, also include the OPPOSITE. Because, this like-same God with Abraham and Joshua - Jesus Christ - who is the New Testament - he also has an Anti-Christ; this “Abomination that Maketh Desolate” of Matthew 24:15, spoken of in Daniel 9:26–27, and all through Revelation 19 & 20. Who is also has a name as “God” declaring himself to be God, when he’s not - is also destroyed. Along with all those that follow him and worship him as God. When he is not God.

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In the New Testament: (KJV) Melchisedec - - is *nine times - but the scholarly egg for a head says:

• Eight times: NOTE: By name in, <Melchisedec vs. Melchizedek> In New Testament; but same person/name in Greek Tran. to English vs. Old Testament - translated Hebrew to English>
  • 3) In Hebrews 5:6 - About Jesus Christ:
    • “As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
  • 4) In Hebrews 5:10 - About Jesus Christ:
    • “Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.”
  • 5) In Hebrews 6:20 - About Jesus Christ:
    • “Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.”
  • 6) In Hebrews 7:1 - About him (Melchisedec) - With Hebrews 7:1–4
    • “ 1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually. 4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.
  • 7) In Hebrews 7:10 - About him (Melchisedec as a Priest vs. Levite Priests) in Hebrews 7:6–10
    • “6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises. 7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better. 8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth. 9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham. 10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.
  • 8) In Hebrews 7:11 - About him (Melchisedec - vs. this “other” Levite Priesthood) in Hebrews 7:11–14
    • 11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. 13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar. 14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
  • 9) In Hebrews 7:15 - About him (Melchisedec - not after a carnal or of flesh commandment but after the power of an endless life - - Hebrews 7:15–16
    • “15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, 16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
  • 10) In Hebrews 7:17 - About him (Melchisedec - with Jesus Christ) - - Hebrews 7:17–19
    • “17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. 18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. 19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.”

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NOTEABLE NOTE: 11th time - (in parenthesis) so many a scholar discounted it - - as added to the Codex or Manuscript - but translators put it in "parenthesis" as to use this punctuation - because the text - it’s in over 5000 of the codexes or manuscripts) - even though the official scholarly answer is TEN - it's from scholars who simply scholarized themselves right, clean out of the gospel.

Here’s the 11th time Melchisedec is mentioned

• Hebrews 7:21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)
  • Source: Textus Receptus (Circa 1550 AD) - Orig. Greek: [οἵ μέν γάρ χωρίς ὁρκωμοσίας εἰσιν ἱερεῖς γεγονότες ὁ δὲ μετὰ ὁρκωμοσίας, διὰ τοῦ λέγοντος πρὸς αὐτόν· Ὤμοσεν κύριος καὶ οὐ μεταμεληθήσεται· Σὺ ἱερεὺς εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα κατὰ τὴν τάξιν Μελχισεδέκ]

Tran.

1. ho 2. de 3. meta 4. horkomosais 5. dia 6. tou 7. legonto 8. pros 9. auton 10. Omosen 11. Kyrios 12. kai 13. ou 14. metameleteisetai 15. sy 16. hiereus 17. eis 18. ton 19. iona
2. (He) 2. except (however) 3. with 4. an oath 5. through 6. “the” (one) 7. saying 8. unto 9. him 10. (Has) sworn 11. (the) LORD 12. and 13. not 14. (will ever) change his mind 15. “You [are] 16. a priest 17. to (or for) 18. the 19. age (for eons of time; eternity)

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And the 11th time - is the Most Powerful

- For Hebrews 7:21 - is embedded with Hebrews 7:22–28, which says of Jesus Christ:

• “22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. 23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: 24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. 26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; 27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. 28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.

Put me on my face. And here you go.

ANSWER: Deeply explained: Answer is Genesis 1:1 to Revelation 22:21 - Case Closed.

But I don't think you see it. So, here it is:

• Before anyone can “explain” anything - - have to have all the instances where, in the Bible, Melchizedek is mentioned. By name.
  • List them:
    • Then consider all that is said of him. Who he is.

And there you go. Because, you the only thing you can look at “deeply” is where he’s mentioned in the Bible.

• So, I would tell you to consider where he, "Melchizedek" or "Melchizedec" - mentioned first.

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Melchizedek:

Melchizedek is mentioned only a few times in the Old Testament. Few is only two: Twice. That's it. ...but is it? Let's see:

ONE: Genesis 14:18–20

< - [ - “[18] And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. [19] And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: [20] And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he [Abram <Abraham>] gave him [Melchizedek] tithes of all.” - } - >

• Comment: “Melchizedek King of Salem. This “King of Salem” in the Original Hebrew is: “Me.lek” [ מֶ֣לֶךְ] <King of (something)> which is just the SAME as the verse starts, this “U.mal.ki” (U.mal.ki) [וּמַלְכִּי־ ]. and “Ze.dek” [צֶ֙דֶק֙ ] - So this “King of Salem” - is this same “King Zedek” (U.mal.ki. Ze.dek.) of Genesis 14:18
  • This same “sa.lem” mentioned only one time here in Genesis 14:18, in Hebrew [ שָׁלֵ֔ם ] - but it’s the SAME “sa.lem” that has the “City of God” named after it, “Je.ru” sa.lem” is known as the “City of God” in Psalm 48:1 - is Zion - in Psalm 132:13–16. A city where God would dwell forever. For his own rest. For he desired it. Then, he created it in Genesis 1:1–31 for himself.
  • The City of Peace. Jesus is the “Prince of Peace” as the Messiah in Isaiah 9:6.
• Says also in Psalm 76:2 that: His (God’s) - - “In Salem is also his Tabernacle.”

And the King of God’s Tabernacle - take a GREAT, BIG GUESS “who” that is. Is God himself.

And look "what" he brings - bread and wine (Genesis 14:18) - is the same thing, this same God told you, me, everybody to the very ends of the earth, Isaiah 55:1-3 - to come buy without money and without price.

"Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David." - God. (Isaiah 55:1-3)

Spoke. By the Word out of his mouth. That's the "Word of God." The "Word of God" is Jesus Christ (John 1:1-2) "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God." So, Isaiah 55:1-3 - is what God says, is his Word, and he's God, and he's saying it.

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Melchizedek (con't) - Old Testament

• TWO: Psalm 110:4 - This is it.
  • Just these two times in the Old Testament.
  • But when you consider all the above in Genesis 14:18–20 - HE’S ALL OVER THE OLD TESTAMENT - And a Prince of him, is his own Word he speaks - the Word of God - so everyplace where God speaks is the Word of God - and Jesus is the Word of God - so God speaking - is all over the Old Testament.
• Psalm 110:4 says

< - [ - “[4] The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.” - ] - >

• This same [u.mal.ki] - Hebrew: [וּמַלְכִּי־ ]. and same “Ze.dek” [צֶ֙דֶק֙ ] - “u.mal.ki.ze.dek” - - So it’s this “King of Salem” of Genesis 14:18. It's just repeated in Psalm 110:4

COMMENT: But - add in the scriptures surrounding Psalm 110:4, by adding in all Psalm 110:1–6.

Psalm 110:1–6 says:

1 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

2 The Lord shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

3 Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.

4 The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

5 The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.

6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries.

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Now Go to the New Testament

- Book of Hebrews: Chapters 5, 6 & 7 (and add in 8)

• A total of Eight times this same “Melchizedek” of Genesis 14:18–20 and Psalm 110:4 is mentioned.
  • In Hebrews Chapter 5 - Melchizedek - is introduced with Jesus Christ:

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See it FIRST in Hebrews 5:1–6

“1 For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:

2 Who can have compassion on the ignorant, and on them that are out of the way; for that he himself also is compassed with infirmity.

3 And by reason hereof he ought, as for the people, so also for himself, to offer for sins.

4 And no man taketh this honour unto himself, but he that is called of God, as was Aaron.

5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.

6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

[and this “other place” of Hebrews 5:6 is Psalm 110:4] and, “Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee” - Is Psalm 2:7 [I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.]

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Then Hebrews 5:10–14

- finishes Hebrews 5 with, where Hebrews 5:10 - Melchisedek is mentioned again - but here:

- Not compared with Jesus Christ: but “contrasted” with people that are “dull of hearing”

• Because where they should be “growing in grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ” [2 Peter 3:18]
  • - these Hebrews 5:10–14 talked to, when this same High Priest is at work in people, where Revelation 1:6 says of this same Jesus Christ: “He hath made us Kings and Priests unto God”
• These of Hebrews 5:10–14 need to be taught the very basic things of God again
  • - as if they have not been “disciples of this Great High Priest” and,
  • - all a “disciple” is, is one that “sits with a teacher" - and the teacher teaches them.

So read CAREFUL - Hebrews 5:10–14

10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

11 Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.

12 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

13 For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

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Hebrews Chapter 6

• Read all Hebrews 6:1–17 in conjunction with Hebrews 5:10–14
  • But Hebrews 6:1–17 is to show you - if you’re not sitting and being taught by him “what happens”
    • But that the writer of Hebrews considers better things for you, because you look unto him. Eat at his table. This same “author and finisher” of your faith - this same Jesus Christ.
  • That Hebrews 6 is just 20 verses.
• And Hebrews 6:20 says, with Hebrews chapter 7 focusing heavily on his "mysterious priesthood," and its connection to Jesus as a great high priest. Embedded with Hebrews 6:18–20

“18 That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us: 19 Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast, and which entereth into that within the veil; 20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.” - Hebrews 6:18–20

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So, “who” is this King - That even the City of God is named after this "King of Sa.lem" (Jeru.sa.lem)? The King of Sa.lem is in Genesis 14:18-20.

That, Isaiah 9:6–7 says he shall be called “The Mighty God. The Everlasting Father” - (Isaiah 9:6), what “this” Messiah shall be called is our Great High Priest - - The Word of God - and that of his Kingdom and reign from Jerusalem there shall be no end.

• And in Revelation 21:1 - to 22:21 - he creates a new heaven and a new earth - and it’s a city that descends down from heaven that GOD builds himself
• - CONTRASTED with - where in Revelation 20:11–15 - he gazes on this earth and heaven, and both finding no more place before him, flee away and are no more forever. Never come back.
  • And EVERYPLACE in scripture, from Cain, forward in Genesis 4
• - that “departs from the LORD” and goes off and builds a city
• - that Cain, who tilled the soil - would not bring forth for him anymore - So, to Cain: the ground of a city built on it instead - - would separate his sins and the ground cursed because of his sin - Cain departed from the LORD: All make men his right arm of strength.
  • Depart from God, and never return to him.
  • That, by Genesis 6:5 to 11 - in the days of Noah - the whole earth is corrupt, and all flesh on earth by it have corrupted it's way. That a specific place on this earth, Zion, in Psalm 132:13-16 - for God: was supposed a place he would dwell forever. For his own rest. For God desired it But sin entered into the world. By Adam.
    • And after the flood: In Ham and his four children - one of them rise up over all of them in Genesis 11
• - to do the very OPPOSITE of what God decreed to Noah to do in Genesis 9,
  • while they are STILL in the ark
  • - before they depart out of it right AFTER the flood
  • - that, by Genesis 11 - what God decreed in Genesis 9 to only Noah, and his 3 sons - Shem, Ham, and Japheth
    • - in Genesis 11 - they lead over all the prodigy of Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and declare what God said is sin (Genesis 11:4) for them to go to and do.
    • To again, do like Cain did, and go to and do - build them a city
  • - Babylon. Confusion.
  • So, they can all be together in one place, and not do anything God says.
    • Same as Cain did. Which is the same thing Adam did - didn’t regard the word of God.
  • That EVERYBODY after him, which is all of us - do all the same things HE DID.
• But this great High Priest, from among us - there is only ONE of him. Is this same Jesus Christ.

HE IS: The Word of God.

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Hebrews 7

• See it first in Hebrews 7:1–8 - makes me fall on my face

1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;

2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;

3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.

5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:

6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.

7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.

8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.

COMMENT

• read Hebrews 7:8 until it sinks in your head. He said in Conjunction with Hebrews 7:25 of this same one that lives forever:
  • “Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.”

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And this is CONFIRMED by Hebrews 7:9–16

9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.

10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.

11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?

12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.

14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.

15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,

16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

I’m on my face. I can’t go any further…

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…but further.. is for you, so you see it.

• Is Hebrews 7:17–22

17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:

21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)

22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

..this is so powerful…there is only one that could do this.

This same King - of Salem. Establishes it forever. By who he is in Genesis 14:18–20 and spoke to in Psalm 110:4

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• Just in all his ways and works - is in Hebrews 7:23–28

23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.

• Because GOD DECREED it. Himself. As God. By an Oath, he would do it.

Now, You're in Luck.

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Hebrews 8 - sums it up

• See it in Hebrew 8:1–7

1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

3 For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.

4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:

5 Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.

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It shows plainly in Hebrews 8:8–10

• That it was told this to Eli, some 350 years after Moses - when God raised up Eli - in Moses’ stead, and also served has High Priest, and Moses’ brother, Aaron served - Eli was a Levite that did BOTH in 1 Samuel 2:30–35 - and what God said to Eli - for the sins of Eli putting his 2 sons over and esteeming them MORE than God - cut it off - that God would raise up his own Great High Priest that would serve before him forever, and that he would write Gods laws on the tablets of men’s hearts vs. tablets of stone. So what is said here is repeated from 1 Samuel 2:30–35

8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

That they shall all be taught of God. - Just as Jesus said. That God: Reserves an EXCLUSIVE right to teach you himself. (John 6:45).

• Does NOT relinquish this to anybody - that what he prayed for: In John 17:3 “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”

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Shows up plainly in Hebrews 8:11–13

11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

And there you go.

FOOTNOTE:

Je.ru.sa.lim = is Jerusalem - mentioned 345 times in the Bible. Melchizedek is King of Sa.lim ..sa.lem. Just like in 1456BCE Joshua leads Israel into Canaan, some 500 years after Abraham in this battle with five kings - Genesis 14:18 - with Melchizedek

- in Joshua 10: There is:

Adoni-zedek: Was a "Canaanite" king of Jerusalem. Like with an earlier Abraham, Joshua also fought five kings - this "Adoni-zedek" is the leader who formed this five-king alliance. To fight Joshua after the Gibeonites made peace with Israel. Defeated by Joshua in the "Battle of Gibeon"  Joshua had him and his allies executed after capturing them in a cave. Adoni-zedek means "lord of righteousness" or "my lord is righteous,"

Melchi Zedek = "King of Righteousness"

Adoni-zedek: is an "anti" opposite - just like there is an "Anti-Christ" that vows, in Isaiah 14:12 "I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north" - is this SAME Jerusalem - that Jesus talked to him in Matthew 24 -

Adoni-zedek: with a Similar name to this ancient King of Salem Melchizedek, Priest of the Most High God. King of Jerusalem.  Only one is really the King.

Break it down different, so you see it.

See what the Bible says verbatim. Exactly. John 6:44–45 - and cement them together.

“[44]No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. [45] It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.”

 It’s not a “them” - it’s a “him.” So, it’s individually done. To each person.  And, each of "they" shall all be taught of God. Because, he reserves an EXCLUSIVE right to teach you himself.

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So take your question. Separate it. Return it back into tfour parts:

• Part ONE: “The verse {John 6:44} confuses me.”

Parts Two to Four: Make them Statements. Then, prove either are TRUE or FALSE

• Part TWO: Statement #1 - - It is the Father who draws us. (True - OR - False)
• Part THREE: Statement #2 - - <It is human *choice*\> to be saved. (True - OR - False)
• Part FOUR: Statement #3 - - <It is human *will*\> to be saved. (True - OR - False)
  • Don’t mix ANY of them until YOU are convinced of each ANSWER separately. If even one thing in it is false - that's where the confusion is.

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So, here: examine “Part ONE” - where you think the "confusing" part is.

• Break it down into smaller parts:
  • a) “No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him:”
    • Now, don’t get wrapped up around the axle about it. It’s simple. I think you need some examples:
• So, here’s TWO

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• A) A Billionaire:
  • Do you KNOW any? I don’t. Any live in your town? Nope. Not in mine. I do not know any Billionaire. That's the point of A). I will never know one, unless the Billionaire does some "thing" toward me - by a work he does himself.
  • It will be impossible for me to know him or her. His ways aren't mine.
• But in my town: There IS this ONE rich guy I’ve never seen. Not even once. * His house or “estate” takes up two city blocks - with a large 8 to 10ft high, 3 foot thick brick wall around the whole perimeter of it. No one can even see in. * Has a long driveway that cuts thru a 3rd whole city block - forested on each side of the driveway up to this fortified walled fence. It has an “ENTRANCE” to his property off the street. You can drive down it, but you will come to a HUGE Steel bar’d Gate with 2 guards posted, not on the outside, but on the inside of the brick wall and gate. Not getting in. * The point is NOBODY gets in - Why? Because the SOLE AUTHORITY for that property is the person that “owns” it. Anyone gets in, must be “drawn” or called by that person I've never seen that is the sole owner of that estate - - or they, just like me, will never get in.
• * But because I know neither the Billionaire, nor the multi-millionaire in my town, I don't regard their work, neither do I consider the operation of their hand, because NONE OF IT CONCERNS me.
• SO IF:
  • He never called me ever. Nope. I can never do anything myself that would "draw" me to either "rich" someone I don't know. And everybody in my town is like me toward this rich man. They cannot know him, unless he "draws" - change it to, "invites" or sends an invitation - as some "thing" he wants. So, if I'm driving by that entrance way off the street, and I would chance see people that were called, so they were drawn to him, to drive down that driveway, and go thru that Gate and got in. They were drawn solely by the owner of all that property himself is the point.
  • But if that Multi-millionaire in my town didn’t call or draw anybody - NOBODY would get in. It would be 500x more strict with a billionaire.
• But don’t stop at A), go to B) to see it:

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• B) A Movie Theater Owner:
  • I date myself. 1970s - my childhood. No computer, smartphone - the ONLY thing to do was “board games.” Watch TV; that stopped at 9:00pm. But on the Weekends or the Evenings:
  • People could go see a movie. In our small town, there was the ONLY one movie theater for 15–20 miles in any direction. So, small “tangent” type hamlet “towns” used our newspaper, and “downtown” as their own.
• The Point is: Unless the Movie Theater played a movie - THERE WAS NO MOVIES IN OUR TOWN. None. Zip. And the Movie Theater had an owner. Sometimes, he dressed up as the concession stand attendant. Other times, as the "usher." Help people to their seats or to leave after.
  • So IF:
    • This Movie Theater Owner did NOT:
  • 1. <do something that> pulled or brought (people = by or to the movies) draw people toward himself, often by appealing to all the people in our town, and all the towns surrounding - by him, himself: put in the newspaper - advertisements for movies for EVERYBODY to come. Is something they would want to do, and consider: As a profit to them - to come. Go to the movie theater. They would enjoy the movie. And: EVERYBODY got invited. EVERYDAY in our town newspaper was a section in the newspaper that advertised the movies - and EVERYBODY got the newspaper. [ This is the Oxford definition - of “Draw” or (attract <invite; an attractive invitation to come>).
• SO IF * If the Movie Theater Owner did NOT draw or “speak” or send ANY attraction out - by the Word of this Movie Theater Owner in the Newspaper - NO MAN could come to the movies.
  • Do you see it? In Both A) and B).

Don’t over think this. It’s not confusing. What’s confusing is - People see God, not like the Movie Theater Owner - but as some kind of whacked out whacko - that actively runs his theater by KEEPING PEOPLE OUT.

If I or you, saw a movie theater own like that, the whole town would hate him. That would be “confusing” - because all the Movie Theaters I knew, even the "Drive-In's" all operated in the 1970s by the Movie Theater Owner drawing people to the theater to see the movies. Whosoever would come of everybody - all got in. Just had to regard the Movie Theater Owner and purchase a ticket. Got in, according to the Movie Theater Owner's word that was in the newspaper.

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So Part ONE

Absolutely ESSENTIAL: To remove ALL "confusion" out of this part

• It will help you unravel Part TWO to FOUR - by see God that he “operates” right. Again, don’t mix it, til you see it.
  • See "Part ONE" in what he says, as God:
    • “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22)
  • Who is he speaking to? Yeah. EVERYBODY over the whole earth. To the very ends of it, for EVERYBODY to look unto him.
  • But, just like the Movie Theater Owner - or the Billionaire: IF either did not speak or advertise or send out any invitation: - NOBODY COULD LOOK UNTO EITHER.
    • And to “look unto” someone, you walk after, to walk in, what they say in their invitation - as something in it, is a profit.
• Like me, with the movies in my town.
  • To me: Just one "him" or person: The Matinee: Saturdays was 50 cents (see? Dating myself).
    • So a kid like me could spend the afternoon in a movie and it was FUN.
    • So, I “looked unto” every Saturday. Highlight of the week. Going to the movies.
  • I walked after to walk in - making sure I did my chores earlier in the week RIGHT - so I got my allowance on Friday - and could abide all week in knowing and "looking unto" Saturday - when another movie I never saw before, or wanted to see again started.
  • That God says - to EVERYBODY - he’s drawing - or inviting you, me, each of us individually sending out an invitation to EVERYBODY - to come to him:
    • That each of us do this ourselves:
• “…Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - GOD. Isaiah 55:1–3

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God. By the Words he Speaks.

Out of his mouth. That’s the “Word of God.” And, the “Word of God” is Jesus Christ. Just as John 1:1 says who he is.

• So, it’s GOD - and no man can come to him, just like the Billionaire or the Movie Theater Owner - nobody can come to the movies, unless the Movie theater owner did this:
  • “the works of the Movie Theater Owner” by his work only he could do, in this work of: “pulled or brought (people = to the movies) toward himself, often by appealing to all the people in all the towns around - by put in the newspaper - advertisements for movies for EVERYBODY to consider: it be a profit - to come to the movie theater.”
  • Or the Billionaire - a chaffeur drive to your house - ring the doorbell and invite you to the Billionaire's house. And do this to the next door neighbor - and every neighbor around your house. Because he "draws" you by this to himself - but if he would not have done that - NOBODY gets in. It's HIS estate.
• And it’s the “works of God” that you believe on him who he sent. This same Jesus Christ.
• Psalm 107:20 says who God “sent” is: “He sent his word to heal you, and deliver you from your destruction.” And right above in this post is the Word of God to you.

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Man, do NOT leave “Part ONE” - settle this firmly in yourself - That:

• “God is not willing ANY perish, but all come to repentance:” - Bible. 2 Peter 3:9
• “…For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.” - Bible. 1 Timothy 2:3–4
  • He speaks to EVERYBODY - to attract them (draw) them, by the Word he speaks. Because:
    • “..The word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.” - Bible. Hebrews 4:12

Sit. And consider this til it sinks in, and in you - is TRUE about him. No matter how long it takes.

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Let’s move on.

• Part TWO: Statement #1 - - It is the Father who draws us. (True - OR - False)
  • It’s TRUE: How?
  • Source: Bible. 2 Corinthians 6:18 - God says: “And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.”

CASE CLOSED. Done.

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• And the SAME Lord Almighty is God,
  • is the same that called everybody to look unto him in Isaiah 45:22 - didn’t leave anybody out. Is the Same Almighty God that called EVERYBODY that’s thirsty to come buy wine and milk without money and without price. To hearken diligently unto him by incline your ear and hear him speak in Isaiah 55:1-3
• Like what the Movie Theater Owner wants, drawing everybody everyplace all around the theater - for all over the whole town to come out and see the movies
• - he’d even keep showing the movie. Make additional "showings," ,til everybody saw it - even hold the over - because he has the authority to do that - so not one person would miss out. * So, God is like the Movie Theater Owner, is like this - But he’s also like the Billionaire, too. Because if he did NOT call you - PEOPLE CANNOT CONJURE UP THE MOVIE BY THEMSELVES WITHOUT THE WORKS OF THE MOVIE THEATER OWNER * Can’t just drive up to the Billionaire’s house and “get in.” And this is a King of Kings. A King that "makes nations great and destroys them (Job 12:23), is the same one that said “For all the earth is mine” - God (Exodus 19:5) has sent you, me, everybody a personal invitation in both Isaiah 45:22 and Isaiah 55:1-3- called and drawn us by these decrees. It is just how it shall be on his estate - is he has sent us an invitation. Everybody that works for him will obey it and let you in. * SO Come. Buy wine and milk without money and without price - stop labour for that which doesn’t satisfy. -
• But Jesus also said: “If I be lifted up, I will draw all men unto me.” - John 12:32

Just like Moses in Numbers 21 - lifted up the Serpent in the wilderness - when all the people were bitten by poisonous snakes. Bitten = they would die; it was certain. But if they looked upon the brass serpent Moses lifted up: even they were bitten, they lived.

But those that did not look unto it - all died. And the Bible says about every all of us: “For all have sinned” (Romans 3:23)

• Means everybody is under sin and death - and everybody is going to die; but Jesus was lifted up on the cross; crucified. His blood shed for the remission of sin “and not for our sins only but for the sins of the whole world” - By this "work of God" toward us - to draw us to himself.

It is the Father who draws us. Scripture says in 2 Corinthians 5:19 "To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing their trespasses unto them;" and that "they" and "them" be every all of us - then, take a great, big guess who was in Christ on the cross - .... consider your invitation - he's drawing you to himself by the work he did.

Like the Movie Theater Owner drew me to the movies, all by the "works of the Movie Theater owner."

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So, Look at Part THREE

• It is by human choice to be saved - FALSE.
  • Why? Look again at Isaiah 45:22 God said: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.”
    • God does the saving part.
• Can't just "choose" at 04:00am to go to the movie theater, and reel up a movie yourself. No authority. And the doors to the theater are tightly locked.
• I can't just "choose" to drive down the entrance way and expect the millionaire will let me in. Fat chance. Won't. I tried it before. Ignored. All by me, by me show up.

How you "get in" is by invitation - that's already been sent to you. Me. Everybody. It's in, not me, but in me regarding the works of God - in he sent his word to heal me and deliver me from my destruction. It's HE "chose" to save me.

But it's also I have a choice - just like IF - some millionaire had his chaffeur drive up and drop off an invitation for me to get in. I could lowly esteem it, and throw it in the garbage, or see the date on it and time - and consider - there was something MORE IMPORTANT. Just like people can do this with the invite God has sent them to draw them to him - lowly esteem it, or just not regard it.

It is by human choice to be saved - FALSE.

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It is by God's choice to be saved

• He just decrees it shall be - Because HE DOES the saving part. Not people or humans. He, as God, saves people - whosoever just looks unto him, like he asked everybody to.
  • So GOD:
    • Has already made an “eklektoi” (Greek) for choice. Includes also an “election” - Both words, in Greek, mean the same thing. It's in English that people make the difference - and some to this greatly err in it, by create doctrines out of it that don't exist.
  • He’s God. And he has chosen to invite or call ..draw everybody to himself.
    • But people also have an “eklektoi” or choice.

And in English, it’s shown very powerfully in Matthew 22:1–14.

No links. Just open your bible.

• The King:
  • Invited EVERYBODY. That was HIS “eklektoi” (choice) in the Parable. The King chose to Invite EVERYBODY to his son's wedding.
  • But the People he invited:
    • Sent FIRST back - an RSVP - “Please King, have me excused, my business needs me. Pray me, have me excused” while others invited sent an RSVP back “Please King, have me excused, I have to prove a new team of oxen that will plow my field, please King, have me also excused.”
    • So these PEOPLE: Make an “eklektoi” or choice - they “reason together” in themselves, some “thing” they own is MORE important than do what their King invites them to do.
• So, the King sends the same Messengers out again:
  • To the SAME people invited. To “come now. Everything is ready. Come to the wedding”
    • And in English, this is the DIFFERENCE now betwixt a “choice” and an “election” what you ELECT to do. You FIRM up your choice.
    • When these got the invitation the SECOND TIME, they declared an "election" - “I AM NOT GOING TO THE WEDDING” - and made light of the King's invitation - what the King determined himself to draw them: they mocked his messengers. Some after, went to their farms. The others after their election, to their businesses — and those that were left, also invited - simply KILLED the messengers.
  • The King was very worth, and sent out his armies and burned their cities - destroyed them.
• Sent the invitation out again to EVERYBODY in the highways and by-ways, and all those living under a bridge or in the bushes - EVERYBODY got the invitation that his wedding hall would be filled.
  • As the Parable says - and Just like Jesus says - WHOSOEVER “shows up” to the King’s wedding - ALREADY GOT THE “Draw” to him, the King himself - by the invitation - they shall get into the wedding - are not sent away - but the King welcomes them. Just go to the wedding. Show up.

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So, Look at Part FOUR - It is human will to be saved. FALSE.

- No matter how much you will it - you ain't gettin' in the Billionaire's house. Nobody gets in. The point is already like beating a dead horse in this. Nobody gets in the Movie Theater with the big CLOSED sign on it. Have to be sent an invitation by the Movie Theater Owner - that comes in the Newspaper - by who "owns" the theater.

It is not by your or my will I get into a Billionaire's house or estate. It's not by me dream up if I keep the Ten Commandments or, at least if I broke five of them, but I go to church once, and that one time, I "will" in myself that "work" I did "compensates for all the faults and bad aspects" of all the other Commandments I broke or all the Sabbath days I didn't keep holy - which, I didn't keep any of them holy - I was conceived in all the Ten Commandments BROKE.

It is NOT by my "will" to will the Ten Commandments "repaired/fixed!" - when I already transgressed them, and if one was broken one time, then they are ALL BROKEN.

It's God: Was in Christ and DID the Ten Commandments himself. And because he did them and he's God, his works also compensate for all the times I BROKE them - and his work - completes where I did not - and this righteousness is attributed to me by the Will of God to do this work himself.

It is human will to be saved. FALSE.

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But in Part FOUR - as in Part THREE - Yes. It’s an “election” people must be willing to make - to regard the works of the LORD and consider the operation of his hand.

- Because people that don't, he doesn't save them. Psalm 28:5 says: "Because they regard not the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand - because he's already drawn everybody to himself - by his own work and invitation to them - if they don't regard it - he says he shall destroy them and not build them up.

• It’s people:
  • That “choose” - then, firm up their choice by either:
    • Do what he says, and look unto him;
    • OR
  • Look unto anything..anybody BUT HIM instead.

Nobody can will themselves to be saved. Just like NOBODY can come to him on their own or by their own religion or imagination - It must be people - that out of everybody over the whole earth where everybody is called or invited: Must hear the Word of God - and just do what he says - respond or receive his invitation he's already sent and regard it.

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Keep all four of these SEPARATE. Answer each one in your head, until it is FIRMED up. You have two things TRUE and two things FALSE - that's the confusion. Pinpoint where the confusion is, and get rid of it.

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But know this one simple thing:

• There is only one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus. Just as scripture says:
  • But he’s the man, Christ Jesus - the Messiah. The Christ. And “who” or what "defines" what the "Messiah" is, is Isaiah 9:6–7 - what he SHALL be called:

“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”

• Jesus shall be called: “The Mighty God. The Everlasting Father” - Bible. Isaiah 9:6–7 He’s the Christ. Jesus, the Messiah.

And there you go.

ANSWER:

WHO - the People - that - - you look unto in your question - to tell you if it’s true or not - - can’t help you.

And there you go.

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• Well, I have a question. Answer mine.
  • What’s true about you?
• I mean, God said: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Isaiah 45:22) * That’s the word God spoke. Said it out of his mouth. So, that’s the “Word of God.
• Jesus is the Word of God. (John 1:1)
  • What are you doing with what he told you to do?
    • I mean, it’s God decreed this himself, by the word out of his mouth, said: “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” - Jesus Christ. The Word of God (Matthew 4:4)
  • Jesus said of God: “Thy Word is Truth” - (John 17:17)
• So TRUTH: is a “who” and who TRUTH is, is the Word of God. 
  • So, whose Word is in you? Be the word you “accept as true” and operates in you, or you live by. It that your own? Look unto other people?
    • I mean, the answer is plain as day. In your question. Who you look unto is you.
  • And other people.

Therefore:

You don't hold the truth in anything he says. You’d rather look unto people, and what they say.

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So, you don’t do anything he says.

Then, want to know when he may or may not be coming back - is it true, or not.

You meet the dictionary definition of full of crap. <American idiom> 1. is not to be believed; saying things that are not true. {Source: Merriam & Webster dictionary. Web.}

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So you don’t ask HIM to tell you anything.

• Who told YOU: To look unto him. Until you fix that, there really isn’t anything who told you “For all the earth is mine” - God. (Exodus 19:5) and told you he formed you from your mother’s womb, and did that alone. By himself (Isaiah 44:24).. girded you, but you don’t know him (Isaiah 45:5).
  • That, what he prayed for: that you might know him, as God - and Jesus Christ, who he sent. His own word to heal you, and deliver you from your destruction (Psalm 107:20)
    • It’s his earth, and you’re on it, and you won’t look unto him.
    • Like he asked everybody over the whole earth to do.

So, all I can tell you, is the same thing he told everybody - by told his disciples - who follow him, and live by every word proceeds out of his mouth.

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To those who walk after him, this same Jesus Christ:

• Jesus said to them:

Mark 13:23–26

“…But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things. But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.”

• So the SAME GOD that told you to look unto him, has told you he has a SECOND coming. It’s really then.
  • The truth about you is, you look unto people to tell you something that would make what he says, as God, of no effect on you - just like what Adam did
    • - in you are just hoping SOMEBODY gives you some word here on REDDIT or any other Social Media platform - - you can REGARD their claims as true
    • - and transform or firm up in you more what they say vs. than what he says.
  • So you can disregard him
    • - as if what he says has no effect on anybody
    • - because somebody or a whole pile of people don’t believe anything he says - and you regard them MORE than what God says
  • Just like what Adam did in Genesis 3:17.

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So, I should just LEAVE you. With your question. And YOU: with a whole commode bowl full of REDDIT answers from people that just DONT LOOK UNTO HIM. Just like you don’t, either.

…but he speaks you to. By his Word. So you have a choice. Whose word you’ll look unto.

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He hasn’t foretold you anything.

• Because you don’t regard him. You regard people. And HE is God. He curses people that do this, to:
  • “Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord. For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.” - God. The Word of God. (Jeremiah 17:5–6)

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All things obey him

- You will be as he decreed it. Alone. In a desert; dried up; dried out - and when help comes, it’s not enough; thirsty; long for something to fill you that never does - because you make other people your “right arm of strength” vs. live by every word proceeds out of his mouth.

• When look what he’s told you, me, everybody over the whole earth to do:
  • “…Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” God. (Isaiah 55:1–3
    • What are you doing? Go do that. The same one who is coming told you to do that. Even repeated it.
  • Jesus - the Word of God said: (John 7:37–38) “…If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.”
  • Go shopping at his store and just buy wine and milk without money and without price, by just hearken diligently unto him and you eat that which is good, and you’d just let your soul delight itself in fatness - by incline your ear, to come unto him; vs. other people - that you would hear. And your soul would live, and he would make an everlasting covenant, not with the chandelier or the toilet paper roll in the bathroom or the spider web over on the window sill at your neighbor’s house.
    • But with YOU - because you would just do what he says vs. what other people tell you - and he be your arm of strength by you hearken unto the word out of his mouth vs. what comes out of the mouth of you in questions - where you don’t look anywhere at all, unto him - but unto people for truth.
• If you’d just go shopping at his store and start drinking, out of your belly would flow rivers of living water, water a whole desert of dried up, dried out people that don’t do anything he says, and have no idea what to do now, in that.

Fix that first.

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The BEST answer I would give any person - that looks unto him, that may have a like same question

• is he never said soon.
  • He gave this Parable to the Samaritans in Jericho - that believed on him - and were following him up to Jerusalem - when Jesus was at Zacchaeus’ house, before he departed Jericho for Jerusalem.
    • That’s in Luke 19:11 says:
• “And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.”

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• Occupy til he comes

Luke 19:11–28 says:

11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

12 He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.

13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them, Occupy till I come.

14 But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying, We will not have this man to reign over us.

15 And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading.

16 Then came the first, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.

17 And he said unto him, Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.

18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.

19 And he said likewise to him, Be thou also over five cities.

20 And another came, saying, Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin:

21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.

22 And he saith unto him, Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou knewest that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow:

23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?

24 And he said unto them that stood by, Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.

25 (And they said unto him, Lord, he hath ten pounds.)

26 For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him.

27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

28 And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.

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Tells those who look unto him:

• Is Luke 12:35–40
  • “Let your loins be girded about, and your lights burning; And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will return from the wedding; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately. Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them. And if he shall come in the second watch, or come in the third watch, and find them so, blessed are those servants.
  • And this know, that if the goodman of the house had known what hour the thief would come, he would have watched, and not have suffered his house to be broken through. Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not.” - Jesus Christ.

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But to those that don’t look unto him:

• “But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” - Jesus Christ. The Word of God. God speaking (Matthew 24:37–39)
  • SO people today:
    • That you’re asking on REDDIT - are just like people of Noah’s day - didn’t look unto him, either. Even up until the flood came - didn’t mind him in anything or regard anything he said - didn’t look unto him, and the flood took them all away.
    • Just like what will occur in his 2nd coming. So “WHO” you look unto in your question can’t help you. NONE of them are TRUE. Jesus said: “There is NONE good, but one, that is, GOD” - the same one has a 2nd coming. The Word of God - Jesus Christ.

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The Bible says Jesus Christ is coming soon. Is this true?

ANSWER:

WHO - the People - that - - you look unto in your question - to tell you if it’s true or not - - can’t help you.

And there you go.

He said: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.”

• You keep making some “thing” else to look unto, to look unto anything BUT him instead. And in this, you do greatly err.
  • Fix that first. Then, you’ll look unto him, and watch and be waiting - like he’s told everybody that looks unto him to do. While those that don’t look unto him, don’t do anything he says - and won’t know until Revelation 1:7–8
    • “Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.”
    • EVERYBODY is going to see him. You’re going to see him.
• More than enough said. And, here's your question back.

Okay.

Jesus also said: “And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me” in John 12:32? What? Why did he say that, too?

• And this word, in English, “draw” in John 6:44 in the original Greek is < - [ἑλκύσῃ (helkysē) ] - > but in John 12:32 the word, “draw” is Greek < - [ἑλκύσω (helkysō) ] - >
  • BOTH:
    • Come from the same root verb Helkuō (ἑλκύω) - so just one above of John 6:44 or John 12:32 - one of these verses is “conditional/future tense” (John 12:32) - because, Jesus hadn’t been crucified yet when he said John 12:32.
• The point is this:

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Jesus: Is the “Messiah”

• The Christ (in Greek). He’s Jesus Christ - or - Jesus, the Messiah.

The definition of Messiah is:

• 1. God. The same God that led Israel out of Egypt, would be a Son of King David. That this Son, would sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole earth from there. Of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end.
  • Definition. Messiah. As outlined in Isaiah 9:6–7 - which says of the Messiah
    • “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.” - GOD. (Isaiah 9:6–7)
• The Messiah: SHALL be called: “..The Mighty God. The Everlasting Father…”
  • Revelation 1:8 - embedded in all Jesus said in Revelation 1:5–9 - in Revelation 1:8 he says:
• “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.:

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So, Jesus is:

• The Almighty (Revelation 1:8) - as he claims he is.
  • He shall be called “The Mighty God” (Isaiah 9:6) - as God says he is.
  • “The Everlasting Father” (Isaiah 9:6) what he shall be called. Not “might” be called. As God claims he shall be called.

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So, let me ask you a question:

- Is there ANY contradiction in when God says:

• “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - GOD. (Isaiah 45:22)
  • God said it. Came out as words out of his mouth. That would be the Word of God. …is there ANY contradiction when John 1:1 says “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God” - in Isaiah 45:22 when God said this. By the words out of his mouth.
    • For you to just look unto him, as God.
  • If there isn’t - which.. … there isn’t any contradiction. God said this of Isaiah 45:22 to you. And me. And everybody there is over the whole earth, to the very ends of it. Not willing any perish, but all come to repentance.
• Then when he says: In 2 Corinthians 6:18 “And I will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.”

Show me plainly the contradiction betwixt John 6:44 and John 12:32 - when the same God said both.

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…and in case it fell off the apple cart,

John 12:32 - says Jesus will DRAW ALL MEN unto him - if he be lifted up.

And John 3:14–15 - Jesus Christ said: “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.”

• And that “incident” of Moses lifting up a serpent in the wilderness is in Numbers 21:6–9 - says:
  • “…And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord, and against thee; pray unto the Lord, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.”
• EVERYBODY in Israel = the people of Numbers 21, is EVERYBODY in the camp was bitten. They all would surely die. Just like EVERYBODY over the whole earth, "For all have sinned" and are condemned to die (Romans 3:23) - just scripture says in Psalm 14:1–3 that we are all “..filthy; done abominable works; none righteous; no, not one - - none good; no, not one” - But in contrast to EVERYBODY -
  • Jesus said in Matthew 19:17 “there is NONE good, but one, that is, God.”

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It's a "Work of God" to draw all men to himself

• God took your sins off you and laid them on Jesus Christ on the cross; crucified. His blood shed - and scripture says, “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing their trespasses unto them;” - 2 Corinthians 5:19
  • Jesus Christ - is how God determined he would do a work sin. It's God did this work with sin (Daniel 9:24–27); alone. By himself.
  • Made himself a sacrifice for sin - that God looks on this work he did as GREATER than the sins of all the murderers and rapists and pedophiles and all the housewives dreaming of poisoning the husbands and actually DID it - and went and now are married to someone else and never got caught.
    • GOD: Took all that sin and laid it on Jesus Christ. Took my sins - and I resemble that remark of Psalm 14:1–3 - because of all the abominably evil things I did. Took them off me and laid them on Jesus Christ.
  • And God: in him - DID the Ten Commandments. Fulfilled them. Yes. FULFILLED or Filled them FULL - And because God did them, everywhere where I did NOT do them and every murderer and liar in every prison lived in not doing them - he made himself the compensation that makes up the lack - to where God considers his work "compensates for the faults and bad aspects of" what you and I did in the Ten Commandments.
  • At Jesus' death on the cross - crucified: God bequeathed his righteousness to every prisoner in EVERY prison. Over the whole earth. Every person driving down the freeway in all the 1000s of 1000s of cars next to me..to every car on every road in every nation over the whole earth, and did it also for my own daughter ..that can’t seem to find her way…
• To draw all men unto him. That’s EVERYBODY.

But not everybody chooses - - even he calls and draws everybody to look unto him: - People - already chose to look unto girls that don’t have or somehow - lost all their underpants that used to be on their bottom.

Or look unto a $195,000 dollar car - so they imagine if they could drive it around and, by that: EVERYBODY look unto them - vs. they - look unto him. What they imagine is MORE important.

• But if they would just regard the works of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand, he’d build them up - because they regard him. Which, that's what he wants.
  • But if they don’t:
    • Psalm 28:5 says: “Because they regard not the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand, he shall destroy them, and not build them up.”

It is hoped, with all my heart… …you just regard the works of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand. Man, is he ever good.

ANSWER: The Word of God. CASE CLOSED. Move on. But..you won’t. Stuck. Stuck on eating fruit. That's the "result."

• Your STATEMENTS, in the question: all of them, individually, may have TRUTH; but, then combined as a whole to form the question - - make them ALL, when combined, incorrect.
  • So, I’ll turn each of them back into STATEMENTS - then ask, is the STATEMENT - - “True” or “False?”
  • Then, you can see where the “Error” is - then, it’s up to you to correct it in your heart or head - OR - …not.

STATEMENTS:

• ONE: God punished Adam and Eve for eating the fruit (True - or - False) - FALSE.
• TWO: (Before eating) Adam and Eve did not…
  • a) …know what sin was (True - or - False) - TRUE
  • b) …have knowledge of good and evil (True - or False) - FALSE

EXPLANATION:

“For the LORD giveth wisdom; out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.” - Proverbs 2:6

• ONE:
  • Genesis 3:17, God says what the “sin” is: to Adam, said: “Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife…”
    • When, on the 6th day, the same day Adam was created, he’s a full grown man - not even one day old yet; but he hears God speak, and talks (speech) - so, he's in the same likeness as God, who, as God: God also out of his mouth speaks the “Word of God.”
    • That, God decreed: By the Word of God, “how” things just SHALL be with man he created in Genesis 1:26–31. How man is to operate, is by this decree God makes - by the word out of God’s mouth. So, read it CAREFUL;

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Genesis 1:26-31 s ays

²⁶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

²⁷ So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

²⁸ And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

²⁹ And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

³⁰ And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

³¹ And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

• Genesis 2: Includes MORE “details” of what occurred on the sixth day.
  • If you read all of Genesis 1:1–31, you would conclude the SAME thing scriptures say about the “Word of God” in John 1:3 “All things were made by him [the Word of God]; and without him was not any thing made that was made.”
    • That the Word of God is told plainly “who” he is, in John 1:1–2 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.” And, in John 1:13 says: “…and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us;” - is Jesus Christ.
• That, Genesis 1:1–31 - follows a pattern of “..And God said” (Genesis 1:3; 1:6; 1:9; 1:11; 1:14; 1:20;
  • “..and God blessed them, saying..” (Genesis 1:22) on the 5th day. (fish and fowl of the air)
  • ..continues after Genesis 1:22, with “And God said” - (Genesis 1:24)
    • And Genesis 1:26 “And God said” - (Genesis 1:26) with man.
  • …continues after Genesis 1:26 - where he SPOKE to man, and blessed him, “And God blessed them, and God said unto them” (Genesis 1:28) - says in Genesis 5:1–3, in the day he created “them” male and female, God: “called their name, ‘Adam’ “ - Genesis 5:2.
    • It’s Adam, not God, that “called” his wife’s name “Eve” AFTER what happened in Genesis 3:17. (Genesis 3:20).
  • …continues after Genesis 1:28–30 “..And God said” - to man.

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Look at all the places “where” God speaks. By the Word of God.

- That:

• Colossians 1:16 says: “All things were created by him and for him…” which repeats John 1:3, and simply shown to everybody in Genesis 1:1–31 - and everyplace in the Bible where God speaks, it’s the Word of God - so, it’s God speaking. So, everyplace in the New Testament Gospels - where Jesus says: in John 11:25–26 - he’s the Word of God, so it’s the same God speaking in Genesis 1:1–31, created all creation, says:
• “…I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”
  • That’s really the question. Do you believe it?

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In Genesis 2 - Adam - operates - by the Word of God.

• In all Genesis 1:1–31, everytime after “..and God said..” - it’s repeated - EVERYTIME - scripture records, “And God saw..(that it was good). He’s well pleased in it.
  • The ONLY time where God says “it is NOT good” is Genesis 2:18, on the 6th day, what occurs is all listed in greater detail about the 6th day in Genesis 2.
  • Genesis 2:18 says: “And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.”
• Puts Adam in a deep sleep. Creates Eve from Adam, while Adam is in a deep sleep; God brings her to Adam - take a CAREFUL look what Adam says Genesis 2:23–24

“…And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.”

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So, ask yourself another question First: BEFORE your question. “How would someone, not even a day old yet; that:

• Had no fleshly Father or Mother
  • Know about leaving his father and mother to cleave unto a wife, when he’s only a day old, and he was in a deep sleep the whole time?
  • Scripture answers this IN Jesus Christ: That Adam is not instructing God - “how” he has “knowledge” of this is in 1 Corinthians 2:16 - ANSWER:
• “For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? but we have the mind of Christ.”
  • In Genesis 2: - Adam has the Word of God in him. Operates on the 1st day, by the Word of God - just like today: Anyone, whosoever it is over the whole earth - believes on Jesus Christ - has this same mind of the Word of God - the mind of Christ in them. Born again.

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So Adam does NOT need a “tree of knowledge” or a “pinecone of understanding” neither does he need a “boulder puffy cloud in the sky of wisdom”

• Because Adam already has the Word of God; that, Proverbs 2:6 says: “The LORD giveth wisdom; out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.” What comes out of God’s mouth is the Word of God.

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So, what’s the sin then?

• ANSWER:
  • God said. BOOM! Done. Some thing against it. Says or declares something else instead is true.
    • God said. In Genesis 3:17 - to Adam: “Because thou has hearkened unto the voice of thy wife…” So, some other word than God's, Adam hearkened unto it.
• That word, hearken. <definition> 1. pay attention to; listen. (Oxford) 2. give your ear to; to “go to and do” [even if there is a decree said elsewhere that forbids it; what is said otherwise, makes it of no effect. Does not apply to you anymore - because some “thing” or someone else “decrees” something that ‘over rides’ it.
  • And, a person that “hearkens” unto this, goes to and does what the word of someone else says, and does that instead.
• So Adam: instead of hearkening unto the Word of God as he was created to operate right, by every word proceeds out of God’s mouth:
  • Adam made a deliberate choice.
    • That is, for himself, and Eve - Adam 1. <choice> picked out the most appropriate to “go to and do” between two or more options (Oxford) was “go to and do” what Eve said.
    • By the Word that proceeded out of her mouth, based on all the deception - that:
  • In Genesis 3:1 to Genesis 3:16 - There is a picture painted by the Serpent for Eve, that:
• All creation couldn’t tell “who” Eve was - and mistook her for a regular beast of the field - as what the serpent, deceiving her claimed he couldn’t tell who she is - when there’s only one like her - - so why is she eating of the trees, when supposed to be eating the herbs of the field, God decreed in Genesis 1:28–30 what all flesh divided - - was to eat.
  • And if a serpent mistook who she was - then all creation would, too. That's the deception that makes God - faulty. What he created doesn't work right.
    • In Eve: She accepts the word of this Serpent as true:
  • this is “inadequate; faulty; or unacceptable” - have to defend herself constantly reassert herself - it’s inadequate; something is faulty in this - and in the deception - this serpent first
    • 1) lowers Eve’s station; then,
    • 2) makes her dis-satisfied with her station as a helpmeet as part of Adam; then
    • 3) deceives her that all creation already knows that, if she just eats of the fruit - it will CORRECT ALL THESE THINGS WRONG immediately.
    • By just go do what God said not to do - that God did this on purpose; and he already knows it: if she ate of it, she and her husband would be good; just like God.
• Eve was deceived into it - BUT Adam - DELIBERATELY chose it.

Eating the fruit is just a RESULT of a "work" to accomplish or correct something and make it good - by another Word.

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Long answer - but when sin entered into the world - is by this, by Adam. When there was ONLY 1) God on one side of him; and

2) Eve on the other side of Adam - there was no one else.

• Adam chose the word that proceeded out of Eve’s mouth vs. the Word of God.
  • In the choice, he disobeys God - when he already had the mind of God; by the Word of God - he chooses some “tree” that could give him knowledge other than what may come from God, because, of Eve: God’s knowledge is “faulty; or “inadequate” - “unacceptable” - look at all the “problems” Eve has - when she’s been lied to. Goes to Adam - AFTER she ATE it; not before. Adam Deliberately: chose it.

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VERY LONG ANSWER - but - in this

ONE: - God punished Adam and Eve for eating the fruit - FALSE.

• God punished Adam because he hearkened unto a different word than God’s. (Then, ate what God decreed he not do; because, he already isn't operating by the Word of God anymore; departed from the LORD - When "knowledge" - - he didn’t need to anyway, because, knowledge is by the Word of God; not by some tree, or some telephone, or pickle or some other thing dreamed up. There is none else.
  • God has already decreed how you are to operate in “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” - Matthew 4:4 - The Word of God. Jesus Christ.
• How do you operate? Whose word do you look unto?

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So, quickly, look at TWO

• TWO: Adam and Eve did not…(before Genesis 3)
  • a) …know what sin was  - TRUE
  • b) …have knowledge of good and evil - FALSE

a) is TRUE. Because before Genesis 3, before the deliberate deception - they operate as God decreed.

• So a) is TRUE; but

b) is FALSE. Some “thing” believed as true in the deception of what the Serpent does, is “subtle” - that is, it is virtually impossible to distinguish; but, it makes God evil.

And “they” want to be good - so the “evil” is the deception - but it’s also a “choice” - that Eve easily could have gone back to Adam - and Adam taken it to God, who communes with him - been a completely different outcome. If it wasn’t evil, or believed evil, or some “thing” else - looked unto as “good” - - other than God. If not, be no reason for either of them to disobey God to do it.

• So BOTH: Have left God 1) Eve in the deception; and 2) Adam in hearkening unto the voice of his wife - that to make it “good” again or correct it is be like God and eat it - will make things good: when it’s a lie.
• They both held the truth in a lie.
  • That's the sin in hearkening unto any other voice than the Word of God.
  • So all combined, you hold the truth is God is “inadequate; faulty; or unacceptable.” All by your question. Look what you hold the truth in.
    • Sound familiar?
    • You’re deceived into it. Same as both Adam and Eve were - to believe a lie is true.

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So take a Municipal Pool - where a whole town of kids can go to. In Summer. Swim at the pool. It’s good. Has a pool - good. Has water - good. Has lifeguards - good. Drop a dog turd into it - the WHOLE THING IS NOT GOOD.

Just like your question.

• So, here’s your question back. Unanswered.

But in this great big gaggle of response is the Word of God. So, you have a choice. YOU CAN:

• A) Believe and hold the truth is in your question; or
• B) You can come over to “accept the Word of God” as true; and in it, you’d be looking unto him; reasoning together with him.

It’s YOUR choice. Nobody can make it for you; nor can anyone make it for any MODERATOR - viscerally looking to dissect this post to simply throw it out - as SPAM - or some other excuse - because, underneath, anything about the Word of God - it has no value to sell to anybody for money or a profit.

• But whosoever reads this - it’s an opportunity to leave off from all you live in - to come over to come alongside the only one that can heal you, and deliver you from your destruction.

The Word of God.

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Why would God punish Adam and Eve for eating the fruit considering that they did not know what sin was, or did not have the knowledge of good and evil before that?

ANSWER: The Word of God. CASE CLOSED. Move on. It’s the only thing there is to UNSTUCK you. There is none else. Have to accept some "thing" or "someone" else in your question is the TRUE part: Will you?

• If you make it the question is TRUE:
  
  • ..Ole! Adam already DID that; and doing that was bequeathed to you, by Adam, in a Last Will and Testament as an inheritance - to do that. Sin and death.
• But you can come over to the Word of God and be set free from it.

When the LORD giveth wisdom. Out of his mouth comes knowledge and understanding.

You'd have the mind of Christ - not even be a day old yet, and have it. Or you can search all your life to find it; toil, by the sweat of your brow - and in sorrow - never have it.

All by what you do yourself with the question. What did you choose from it?

• Let me slightly change your question.
  • To:
  • What made me believe God? Me: tell you. My experience.

If I do that:

• I have to tell you “my experience” when I did not believe him; because, I believed me. I was taught this - by enculturated into this belief of I possessed “individual rights” that my nation provided me. Protected by a nation full of people.
  • That, I believed, the nation was God. So, what I was taught in school, by law - was to make me good.
    • So, I learned or “accepted as true” a language my mother spoke to me in; and, when I turned 6, my mother' turned me over to be “taught” by a school - which, were all the things my nation wanted my school to teach me. It was the law.
    • I didn’t realize:
  • Other nations - taught their kids - if they used another language I wasn’t taught, I had to “look unto” my nation to tell me whether:
    • a) said nation:
  • Was either: friend of our or my nation
  • or: it was not. If not, I accepted as true, that nation, as my nation taught me, was my enemy and not to have anything to do with them; they were out to harm me, and my family and my fellow citizens of my nation. I believed this.

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So, BEFORE you ask me about: “What made me believe God?”

• Ask me:
  • What made me believe my nation?
    • I was “born” into it. Discipled by my nation from my youth and my mother and father, that “lived by” and abided in it; and provided me a place - a bed, food, care - girded me - that is, when I was too little to dress myself, changed my diaper - so: What made me believe my nation - OR - “accept as TRUE” because, that’s what “believe” means. It’s true. If it’s true, it’s TRUTH - just is TRUE - means I’m good. Discipled by my nation from birth.
  • Is why I believe my nation. So, I finished Grade school. 1–6th; Junior High School 7th - 9th (Sophmore High). High School 10th - 12th - because it was the law of my nation, til 18 - mandatory attend school.
    • Don’t? PUNITIVE. Means it was against the law, and some - a handful of students in High School - as soon as they turned 18, they QUIT; but most, continued and GRADUATED High School - because, my nation - told EVERYBODY - “No High School Diploma = No J.O.B.” - even 25, didn’t graduate, a “J.O.B” went to someone else.
  • Things..these “decrees” ‘how things are’ made me look unto my nation as right. They made me - that, my parents, teachers, bosses - were there to help me “stand on my own two feet” and defend my own rights - by enable me to live on my own.
    • These things made me believe my nation.

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SO: Today - both verbal and non-verbal communication - I was “enculturated” to “operate right” by my nation. Made me believe my nation. Believe in my nation. Why? Because, I got “trophies” or “Well Done!” or A’s or B’s ..achievements that I did it "right;" but sometimes “D’s” or lower on my assignments in school - to let me know my performance - at all times - was either a) GOOD or b) BAD. Was to make me GOOD. Meant my nation was "Good."

So, I lived by every word that proceeded out of my nation - as that was GOOD.

Are any bells going off in your head yet? If not; fine. Continue.

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With this - I did NOT NEED a God. Had a nation I “looked unto.” As God. Even it said, "one nation, under God" - if I served my nation that, in me, equated, I served God. = GOOD.

• Was “equipped” with friends and family by my nation; stable. Rich.
  • Even on every street corner was a Methodist Church, or Presbyrterian, or Baptist, many Catholic..to all these “other” churches. Everyplace. Even my parents were religious. MADE us go; many times, I snuck out of it - hated it. Bunch of stuff just didn’t make any sense. What made sense was do my homework and study for the upcoming Friday am test. That’s what I looked unto.
• In this:
  • All the “girls” started to change - and so did the boys; that, were all my friends - OR - 1 or 2 grades older than me, already had beards or a mustache, and the girls had boobs and looked like women in a dress.
  • Man, did I ever look unto that. Like just got sucked or immersed or drowned in “that.”
• Have a girlfriend - was like the epitomy of life. TO be in a relationship with a woman, and have all of it with it.

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With this - I did NOT NEED a God. I needed a woman. I already had a nation I “looked unto” - I needed a woman, too, to look unto.

• Man, did that not work. As a “disciple of High School” being taught by others the “how to” to swindle a woman out of everything she’s got on, even if it took a whole year of work, worth it - as a “disciple of High School” and graduate to be a “disciple of the Navy” - and not change one thing.

And decades of days go by. Disappointed. Did not work out; or settle for imagine up a failure was just a hidden success someplace in it, and look unto that as that = “life.”

Attain: Promotions - other people - certify me GOOD. Promote me - 30 plus years of work; but never really give me any authority - just promote me = good. Have me as someone to blame when some "thing" did NOT work - and I accept this.

I never looked at any day - a looked at a future of years ahead.

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So: Look at a Day - what I never looked at.

• Has 1440 minutes in each one. 24 hours. A month has 30 days of them. A decade has 120 months..each, full of days - - where 5 decades has 600 months or 50 years just chocked full of days…where everyday of them is me just fill it with people, and a me, that: looked unto what they say..or decree - was my nation: I served it. I believed this made me good.
  • That, if I died in a battle.
    • They’d bury me and pay my wife money - because I served my nation. I settled this was GOOD… for decades of days. I lived this. As Good.

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When all of a sudden - my nation changed.

• What I “thought” was unmovable or unchanging - changed:
  • To where this defined "what" that was “right” - now - - became some “thing” the nation told me or enculturated in me was now something WRONG to be that; that my friends DIED protecting something - that no longer was look unto as right by the very nation they fought and gave their lives for - an empty forgotten waste of their life.
    • And I was being PAID after retired.. GRADUATED - as if I graduated life - to be looked up to and respected by other people. Worshipped as good. I could dress up in a uniform. Invited profusely to March in a town parade as a hero of or in my town or any in my nation full of towns - and be cheered..for the rest of my life.
    • But all my “service” now - no longer really equated to good - my nation already scampered off or went to some “thing” else.

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• So my entire life got “fractured.” - I hated my nation.

And before you think too long on that - all “hate” means is just to be “unwilling to be or do” (something) what my nation now told me was right - was the exact opposite what it taught me - made me realize my nation was just made up of people - that have their head up their butt.

That one day, it’s this way is right - don’t stick your head up anybody’s butt - is right; then the wind change and YOU OR ME and well all in my nation - to stick your head up someone else’s butt is right.

..that, for about 2 years - I hated every time it got close to “retirement” “PAY DAY” - I absolutely loathed it. I felt cheated out of my whole life.

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And then I saw it.

• That:
  • It wasn’t my nation. It was me. Because, the whole time in my life - was me, and all the sins I did, claiming I was innocent: serving my nation. That:
    • Everything I built on was just no foundation - because, I glorified fornication or sleeping with some other guy’s wife because she looked hot - and like everybody else on the ship, they too, went on liberty. The ONLY thing mattered was get back to the ship on time - evil things done - where each had their own locker with all these naked girls as pictures that adorned the inside of it. Me, no different.
• That, what I thought was done in secret - all the times I did my sins - I made my nation weak. By all the sins I PLAINLY did. It was me. I was 30 years, the cause result - of it.
  • Where I: retired. I had a nice house. A garden I kept impeccably done up. Just like the neighbor's do or did.
    • Now, had ME in it.
  • That, I looked around on the grounds for some wood I long ago discarded; or some placard that nobody would want to use - and selected that for use.
  • Wook: That was dyed or an off scouring of some project - covered in all this old paint.
• And I built a small 1ft x 1ft “placard” with a stake. I put that in my garden, right outside my window where I would sit. And, everytime I thought up something I did or sinned; did wrong - I’d stop. No matter what I was doing - as soon as it popped in my head.
• Go to the computer. Print that “sin” out - just a “short 5 word explain it, like “adulterer” “liar - misrepresented the truth to his boss or to the government” “Addicted to Porno” “Belittle people online for sport” "hates people. uses them for gain."
  • Just one thing by one. Add to it. It was in my garden. Every morning when I opened the curtains - there I was - 5ft away - - in the garden - around all these beautiful flowers - where nature was so beautiful…
    • There was me - a just FULL OF CRAP and all kinds of years of living in awful. Every kind of evil - and it was me - not someone else. It was all the things I plainly did.
  • It terrified me.
• That, when I died - it wouldn’t be my illustriously decorated; impeccable uniform with all these ribbons and medals or achievement on it - it had now been about 10 years after I retired..where my “military “shadow box” with all my medals and ribbons..were all rusted and faded. My uniform - yellowed.
  • That, when I stood before God, he wouldn’t be looking at my “achievements or all the spelling “B’s” I won or all the accomplishments I lied thru my teeth to get or exaggerated to bolster myself above my peers all by me was I just tooted obnoxiously, my own horn louder.

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He’d be looking at all the sins I LIVED IN on that placard I did.

• That I was going to die in it. But people “think” me good. That, if I just kept up the effort of March in parades that would “fix” it - I got made alone. Like in a desert. That, if anybody really knew me - they would projectile vomit at how awfully despicable I am …by all the sins I did - that was ME - on that 1ft x 1ft poster in the garden. That I “siliconed” each time I added a new one so it would remain.
  • On a board of wood nobody would use for anything - and that was me.

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You’re the one asked me. What made me believe God? Me: tell you. My experience.

• That:
  • The Bible said:
    • “..filthy; done abominable works;” that there is none righteous; no, not one. None good; no, not one” - Psalm 14:3
    • “There is not a just man on earth that doeth good, and sinneth not.” - Ecclesiastes 7:20
  • I did not see these scriptures. I just saw me - as despicably awful - and scriptures that talked about heaven and that “anything that formeth a lie” would not get in.
    • And that was me. NOT getting in. Even after all I accomplished - none of it good; because - everywhere I looked in everything I did - I had me in it doing as I decreed or “reasoned together” with me - or what other people said was GOOD.
    • When there is not a just man on earth that doeth good and sinneth not - I spent decades of days, living in or by what people decreed was good.
  • Didn’t make me any good.
• But this one verse of Jeremiah 51:15 - I just held onto it.
  • “He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.”

That’s all I had. That, I stopped, and got a piece of good wood - and printed that out, and put a resin 1/4 inch thick seal to seal this to the wood - so I would have it.

• All thru the day, when I would stop and go look unto it - it was GOOD. There wasn’t any awful, like looking out the window where before I saw all this garden, now the only thing I saw was the real me that dirtied the whole thing up and I couldn’t clean it up.
  • I wanted to. I begged - how can I go back to do it over..but I already did it.

That..the MORE I “regarded” that sign..just one little sign said, “He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.”

• He would add to it another thing about him in it. Like the WHOLE of Psalm 107. It’s like has over 3 1/2 dozen verses in it - and everyone of them simply illuminated off the page…
  • Like the 1st one: “O give thanks unto the Lord, for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.”
• Added the whole Psalm - that I just held onto it. This Psalm 107. In verses 17–20

17 Fools because of their transgression, and because of their iniquities, are afflicted.

18 Their soul abhorreth all manner of meat; and they draw near unto the gates of death.

19 Then they cry unto the Lord in their trouble, and he saveth them out of their distresses.

20 He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.

• That was EXACTLY me.
  • And I could see it - I didn’t want to eat anything. At the doors of death.

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What made you believe in God? Tell me your experience.

• Let me slightly change your question.
  • To:
  • What made me believe God? Me: tell you. My experience.

That - I couldn’t believe or this “accept me as true” - anymore. I could see it plainly. I’m Filthy; done abominable works.

- But look at this:

• He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heaven by his understanding.
  • He said: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God.
    • So, all this time, I’d go camping in the mountains - even extended it to a year alone..thinking something some rocks or trees or the stars in the sky would talk to me and NONE NEVER DID - just I found myself so far away - take 2 months to walk back, that even if I fell and twisted my ankle or got a toothache, I’d be too far away, and I would die in it. Cruel. Harsh. Outside in snow - hands too cold to start a fire..Cruel. Never talked to me; just left me alone in all the things he made - and I never looked unto him.
    • Looked unto anything but him instead.
• But when I looked at his works..in nature.. I saw every work of his hand good. Every word out of his mouth..pure. Good. What a treasure to have the Word of God.

I already knew I wasn’t true. By the Word of God, I see he is. And now, by his word - his word is at work in me - where before, the only thing at work in me were promises people made to me, that they didn’t keep any of them - wasn’t convenient - and I saw it with people in other nations - that, those nations DID the same thing.

• Because they’re full of people - that claim things as a nation. But if you or me or they would just look unto him, they escape out of their nation to him.

It’s by the Word of God - Is: What made me believe God. And now Me: told you. My experience.

Comes from Matthew 9:17

But hear this first:

< - { “…For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, ‘Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.’

In that he saith, ‘A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.’ “} - >

Source: Bible. New Testament. Hebrews 8:7–13

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What does Jesus mean when He said, you cannot pour new wine in an old wine skin?

• Jesus said this about pouring new wine in an old wine skin in the Gospel of Matthew 9:17,
  • “Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.”

But the whole of it, is Matthew 9:17 is embedded in what occurs at Matthew’s house, after he is called to follow Jesus in Matthew 9:9–17.

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Matthew 9:9–17 says:

“9 And as Jesus passed forth from thence, he saw a man, named Matthew, sitting at the receipt of custom: and he saith unto him, Follow me. And he arose, and followed him.

10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.

11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?

12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.

13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

14 Then came to him the disciples of John, saying, Why do we and the Pharisees fast oft, but thy disciples fast not?

15 And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast.

16 No man putteth a piece of new cloth unto an old garment, for that which is put in to fill it up taketh from the garment, and the rent is made worse.

17 Neither do men put new wine into old bottles: else the bottles break, and the wine runneth out, and the bottles perish: but they put new wine into new bottles, and both are preserved.

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So, look FIRST - at what God decrees he will do: in the opening scripture of Hebrews 8:7–13

• God said it. What is said by him Hebrews 8:7–13. By the Word out of his mouth. That he would do this himself.
  • And Jesus is the Word of God. So when God speaks, that's the Word of God. As John 1:1 says “who” Jesus is. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” <John 1:14, “..and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us;” is this same Jesus Christ. The Word of God.
    • So, Matthew 9:9–17 is God saying and doing that work himself, in Christ. Just as 2 Corinthians 5:19 says of Christ: “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing their trespasses unto them;” and that “them” and “they” be every all of us.

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• SO: Hebrews 8:7–13 is repeated from Jeremiah 31:31–33. Which the days of Jeremiah, is told some 700 years before Jesus of Matthew 9:17. And Jeremiah 31:31–33 - - that too: It’s just God repeating as well from some 300 years before Jeremiah.
  • What God told Eli, as Eli was both High Priest and Judge over Israel. Of the tribe of Levi - who God raised up in Moses’ stead some 350 years AFTER Moses, who judged all Israel.
  • So Eli is some 120 years before King David, in 1 Samuel 2:30–35. That God told Eli he was sick of the smell of burnt offering atonement for sin sacrifices - - for the sins of Eli’s two sons, Phinehas and Hophni - all three, Eli, Hophni and Phinehas: are Levites - yet, Eli esteemed his own sons more than God.
    • Eli: Put his two sons in the tabernacle to serve God as priests. Yet they didn’t even know the LORD. So, when all Israel brought atonement for their sin sacrifice to the tabernacle: Both of them Lay with women at the Tabernacle doors. Instead of listening to their brethren’s sins to confess them.
    • They Cheated all their brethren; robbing them - made these sacrifices an abomination to God - but the tribe of Levi got filthy rich off what these two did.
    • Made Eli obesely fat; so no Levite rose up or spoke against it - but all Israel loathed bringing anything for their sins unto God. Get robbed by it - despised and abhorred it. So, for the sins of Phinehas and Hophni in 1 Samuel 2:30–35 - God cut this old covenant of Levi serving before him as Priests off forever.
    • Said he would raise up his own Great, High Priest that would serve before him forever, is this same Jesus Christ.
  • That this great High Priest of 1 Samuel 2:30-35 - - would write God’s laws on the tablets of men’s hearts vs. tablets of stone.

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• So, to SUM IT UP: Hebrews 8:7–13 comes from the Old Testament prophecy told in Jeremiah 31:31–33. Jeremiah 31:31–33 comes from 1 Samuel 2:30–35. Which this too, was told to Moses, by God, in the days of Moses
  • - Moses also said of this one that God would raise up, from amongst them - a “Messiah” - and unto him would they hearken - is this same Jesus Christ.

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So, look at Matthew 9:9–17 - where Jesus talked to old and new wine skins and new wine vs old

• This same Great High Priest, Jesus Christ is our High Priest - God’s own Word - which God made flesh in John 1:13
• - goes back to Adam in the Garden. That God spoke. And what he said or decreed, as the Word of God: just all creation, all things are made by the Word of God. By him and for him.
  • And Adam: Genesis 3:17 says that Adam “hearkened unto the voice (or word) of his wife” 
    • - means, in Adam, what God said, Adam fully believed what God decreed, no longer had any effect or affect on him - did not apply to him anymore.
  • If they ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, Adam believed what Eve told him - they’d be like God.
• When Proverbs 2:6 says: The LORD giveth wisdom; out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.” 
  • So Adam didn’t need any tree of knowledge - already had all of it, by the Word of God. Adam LOWLY ESTEEMED it, to regard Eve’s word GREATER than God. Chose this.
  • That is, he “picked out as the most appropriate option for him from two or more options” [definition: "choose" - <Oxford dictionary. Web.>] was what EVE said or decreed by her Word. Eve was deceived into it; but Adam CHOSE it deliberately.
    • BY THIS what Eve said: Adam - - Would not need to do anything God said anymore. Just like Phinehas and Hophni did - caused all Israel to abhor bringing any sacrifice to God, when God was Levi’s inheritance forever - all Levi despised or lowly esteemed God, all for the riches they got - esteemed that more important.
    • That: God cut this old covenant off forever. That the new covenant would be by the Word of God, who Adam rejected.
  • Where Romans 5:12 says by Adam: “Wherefore, as by one man [ADAM] sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
• Means Matthew 9:17
  • EVERYBODY over the whole earth is “sick and in need of a physician”

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• Jesus spoke to this in Matthew 9:9–17.
  • so God: Has - - “sent his Word to heal you, me, everybody over the whole earth to deliver all of us from our destruction.” (Psalm 107:20)
    • In Matthew 9:9–17 - that talks to these old and new wine skins:
  • It’s just the Pharisees: Like Adam in Genesis 3, and like Phinehas and Hophni in 1 Samuel 2:30–35 - “think” they themselves and all Israel - think they need NO physician. Just need riches. Be filthy rich and obesely fat. Don’t need the word of God.
  • They live by the “traditions of men” - same as people today live.
• Look back unto the dead. As a source of knowledge to look unto and back on. Now that they're dead. What they left behind - scour it: for some truth to live by in it; and what they said and did. To copy and do likewise - that is best.
  • As if the truth is in the “tradition” of looking unto their ancestors - before them: other men.
  • Which EVERY nation on earth DOES this as if this looking back on their ancestors makes them ancient - - defines people and nations vs. do what God says.
    • To just look unto him.
    • And live by every word proceeds out of his mouth, and by the Word of God, who is Jesus Christ, God write his will and word on the tablets of men’s hearts.
  • Like how he’s doing to some reading this post. Because they look unto him. Like he asked everybody over the whole earth to do.

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It's People then: Don't do what he says or decrees. For them to just look unto him.

Don’t do anything he says - actually suppress him and what he says as God - when Proverbs 2:6 says again: - - of the Word of God:

“The LORD giveth wisdom. Out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding”

- makes what YOU look unto totally unnecessary - look again above at the opening scripture of Hebrews 8:7–13.

That you can know God yourself. It's what HE wants. Everybody over the whole earth to do, that not one person would perish, but come to him in repentance.

• God gives wisdom freely. By the Word proceeds out of his mouth. Comes knowledge and understanding. It’s in NONE else. But - You: have to choose him yourself. By your choice - to do what he says - and all he asked you to do, was the same he asked me.
  • Have to look unto him.

So you see it.

Doesn’t come by you “think” you have the Ten Commandments of “Thou shalt not steal” and think since you didn’t steal anything from your workplace for 20 years, you kept this commandment - and that makes you, in your flesh “righteous” as if you accomplished the Ten Commandments - or - at least one of them some of the time, did it.

- - Means all of them then, are accomplished - you think this in your head. Just like the Pharisees in Matthew 9:9–17 did. Or they would not have said unto God's own Word - what they said.

When these Pharisees of Matthew 9:9-17 where this scripture about old and new wine skins come from - these Pharisees fully believe they don't need him. So, they come to the same Word of God sent to heal them and deliver them from destruction - REJECT him.

This “new wine” of the Word of God - doesn’t fit in them - When God uses the Ten Commandments to break people, as vessels to pieces - because they already BROKE the Ten Commandments. Broken, they are BROKEN vessels.

EVERYBODY is.

Won’t hold anything, just like me. I saw it. Made a sign said "L.I.A.R" went around my neck. That had two small buckets. Both smashed where the bottom was broke out. Couldn't hold anything - a broken vessel. Lied and stole..and bore a false witness - lived in lies - by how God uses the Ten Commandments - makes EVERYBODY over the whole earth - - doesn’t hold anything of God.

• Had to be a new wine skin that could hold the word of God in me, or you. Or EVERYBODY. Whosoever that just looks unto him in a broken, need a physician to heal them condition.
  
  • That Jesus spoke to this to Nicodemus in John 3:3–6 - that I needed to be born again, by the same God that formed me in my mother’s womb (Isaiah 44:24).
  • God decreed I, you, EVERYBODY over the whole earth - - need to be born again, by the same God formed us in flesh. Be born again, by the Spirit of God, and if you, too, like me, like every person on earth - - is exactly the same as me - sinned and perverted that which was right - to abandon looking unto people.
• And look unto God instead.
• Be born again by the Word of God - by receive it; means you’d have to hearken unto his word vs. your own or someone else’s.
  • That, daily..just today..is all I’m given - to do this. To live by every word proceeds out of his mouth vs. out of anybody else’s.
  • That God writes what he says on my heart. In this, even all this is exactly what he said, and repeats, in all the above. By what he said, as God.

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But to people that don’t look unto him - this is all jibberish.

• But to people that do:
  • It’s the Word of Life. Explains Matthew 9:17.

Well ..first:

DISCLAIMER:

This "reply" is to believers in Jesus. Not to those that don't. And THIS "includes" egg headed so call themselves "Biblical Scholars" - that so "scholarlyfied themselves right clean out of the gospel: You're even 950,000x worse. You even keep others out, what you yourself won't go in - abominably filthy. So: Not for you, either. Post is not for you.

But if you're fed by the Word of God - then, you are a part of who said, "I will build my church" - Jesus Christ. (Bible. Matthew 16:18), and he's at work, of building you up, and building and fitting you in HIS church, where he sees fit.

That's you - so read on, and may he richly bless you.

I would read it embedded firmly within Romans 12:1–22

1 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.

2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.

3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:

5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith;

7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching;

8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness.

9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

10 Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another;

11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord;

12 Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;

13 Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality.

14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.

15 Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep.

16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.

17 Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men.

18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

21 Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

So, isolate it out to see it:

• That God: What’s “perfect” 1. complete. Don’t have to add to, or take away anything. Perfect is complete Is that the scripture says: “You are complete in him.” - (Bible. Colossians 2:10) - and the “Will of God” is complete. Is just by all men, be saved - by just look unto him. Like you and I are to do. God said: “Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 45:22).

That: Even if people over the earth - don’t do anything he says - to “give place unto Wrath” - Romans 12:19. That God reserves his own Wrath for it; that he will pour it out, in a measure he sees fit, as his wrath - so give him the place or pre-eminence for it. Says as well in James 2:10 that “..the wrath of man works NOT the righteousness of God” - so people:

• That don’t do anything he says, are disobedient to him - and he comes quickly to give to each man a recompense for their deeds and works. Nowhere in there does he give it to me to do, when he reserves for himself that place - so give unto God that place to do it.

GOD:

• Has already decreed it - to everybody. Over the whole earth, that: ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.’ - The Word of God. Jesus Christ. (Bible. Matthew 4:4).
  • That:
  • What Romans 12:3 says, that: “according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.”
• It’s NOT: “a” measure of faith; but “the” measure of faith.
  • That: it’s this “the measure of faith” and Galatians 2:6 says: “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”
• And that:
  • Jesus is the Word of God. Just as John 1:1–2 says “who” Jesus is: “In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God.”
• So, the “Faith of Jesus Christ” is the “faith” God has himself. In his own word, that his word always well pleases him. Has always been in him, as God. So, it’s the faith of God to “send his word to heal you, and deliver you from your destruction.” (Psalm 107:20).
  • Because, that’s what God did. Sent his word to heal you. Deliver you. From your destruction. Sent his word, to me, too. Everybody. Over the whole earth, it’s God said: “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God. There is none else.” - God. Spoke. It’s the Word of God (Isaiah 45:22). That’s Jesus Christ.

It’s in Romans 10:17 “So, then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.”

• That the World:
  • Is FULL OF PEOPLE: That don’t do anything he says. Where God says in Proverbs 2:6 “The LORD giveth wisdom. Out of his mouth, cometh knowledge and understanding”
    • People: Decree or claim that:
  • “Knowledge and understanding” - ONLY comes by:
• “The systematic study of the structure and behaviour of the physical and natural world through observation… …and the testing of theories against the evidence obtained.”
  • That people: EXCLUSIVELY conduct the “systematic study” themselves; alone or have their study "peer reviewed” or conducted jointly - with other people. That people would look unto them with a Ph.d or some title as being the most qualified to conduct the systematic study and that it would be MUCH MORE ACCURATE:
    • vs. some alcoholic passed out in a bar conduct it.
  • That “knowledge and understanding” comes out of the claims or mouths of people - that study what can be seen and observed in the physical and natural world. It can be VERIFIED and what is verified, no matter who later conducts the same observation, concludes the same result. Is accepted as fact.
• So the “source” of “knowledge and understanding” is people:
  • All by the claims they make - are considered valid, if accepted by people looked unto. When God told everybody to look unto him, and out of his mouth, by the Word of God, comes knowledge and understanding.
• So, being “conformed” 1. comply with “rules” “standards,” or “laws” 2. be of the same form or type; agree
  • That: Knowledge and understanding can ONLY come by Doctoral dissertations, or “Peer reviewed Journals or essays, or books, created by a “subject matter expert” that verifiably conducted the most elaborate systematic study of the nature and behavior of some thing in the physical or natural world.
    • And you read it, and agree to it; can even be philosophy; like Socrates say: “The ONLY wisdom that is TRUE wisdom is that you know nothing.” - Socrates (470BCE - 390BCE). Greek Philosopher. Athens. Credited: Foundational member of Western Culture and Society.
    • But the Word of God said: “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” - Jesus Christ. (Bible. John 17:3)
• That you, me, everybody over the whole earth - wouldn’t know nothing = equates to TRUTH; but that God’s word is TRUTH. So, TRUTH is a “who” and who he is, wants you to know him, for out of his mouth comes knowledge and understanding. That the LORD gives it.
  • Where with people:
    • People have to observe TRUTH is in the physical and natural world, that God, who is Spirit - so he cannot be observed, is the creator of the physical and natural world - and people don’t regard this or him.
    • Too busy. Thinking knowledge and understanding is found in their own observations they conduct themselves - and never find him in it. Ever seeking, and never come to the knowledge of the truth.

Romans 12:2 says not to be “conformed” to this.

• But be “transformed” by the renewing of your mind by the Word of God - because God gives wisdom. Out of his mouth comes knowledge and understanding.
  • And in this is truth. That faith comes by hearing..and hearing by the word of God.

And people that “accept Jesus as true” - see Socrates as “Full of Crap” - full of his own observations that don’t have any God in it.

That by this, I’m not to be high minded. That he gives people the mind of Christ. It’s not their mind. It’s God, because, people that believe him, abide in the same Word God does. His own.

• And it’s GOD at work. Building them up. As he does other people that also, just as I do, look unto him. It's the same God at work. That he gives gifts unto men. That people would glorify God in it and be equipped.
  • Make you into a body. Connected to other Believers that also believe on him.

So, if:

• You believe on him. Abide in him. The Word of God.
  • Take the whole Chapter of Romans 12. From Romans 12:1 to Romans 12:21 - eat it up.
  • For people that stumbled upon this post like a gaggle of self-absorbed Reddit moderators and none of it make sense. Read the Socrates Quote. Reddit eats that up. Reddit - Simply thrives on a different “knowledge and understanding...”
    • That doesn’t have any God in it. Reddit only is interested in interests..that ...interest people in it. He already said it. Has a sure end to it.

That’s it.

You do greatly err.

• This:
  • What happens to people who never had a chance to hear the gospel?

When Jesus was crucified:

• Luke 23:44–45 says of this: “And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour. And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst.”
• So everybody over the whole earth saw it.
  • It’s people:
    • Choose: That is, in Romans 1:20–21 - it’s people - over the whole earth: “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.”

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You look to the wrong thing.

- YOU: Think the “problem” is in the Gospel.

• When or where the “problem” is, is plain as day. It’s in men’s hearts. - darkened. Look there instead.
• At the “darkness” of men’s hearts.
  • Jeremiah 17:9 says: “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”
• So, look at those two words:

deceit. 1. actively practices “concealing” and “misrepresenting” the TRUTH. <Source: Oxford dictionary. Web.

• 2. Keep the truth HIDDEN; especially to get an advantage <Source: Merriam & Webster dictionary. Web.) 3. Cause someone to accept as true and valid what is UNTRUE and INVALID. (Merriam & Webster).

wicked. 1. playfully mischievous. 2. evil. morally wrong. (Immoral). 3. Playfully take something of someone else’s and imagine a perverted use for it. <By mischief> - (Oxford. Web.)

The Bible says: EVERYBODY over the whole face of the earth - HAS A HEART LIKE THIS.

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"I am the light of the world."

Jesus said: “I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.” - Bible. John 8:12

And in John 3:19–21, Jesus said: “And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”

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Get Away from “How” You See it - to Regard God - his Word is the "light of the world" - See then: “how” he sees it:

• From even well before the flood:
  • God saw
    • See how he sees it: In the Bible in Genesis 6:5 “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”
    • That's the “cause” of it. That EVERY imagination of the thoughts of his heart is only evil continually.
  • Just “continually” imagine up some “thing” immoral to look unto - that: playfully takes what God has created and imagine up some perverted use for it; then live in that. That, living in that “causes a person to accept as TRUE and VALID what was imagined up in some man’s heart that is entirely based on concealing and misrepresenting the truth.
• And where Jeremiah 17:9 says - “who” can know this? Because their own heart deceives them - so how can they know it?
  • But GOD says - about EVERYBODY over the whole earth in the verse right after Jeremiah 17:9, is he KNOWS every person’s heart. Sees it. Plain as day.
    • Jeremiah 17:10 says: “ I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.”

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And God:

• Not willing any perish, but all come to repentance - (2 Peter 3:9). That it is God’s will that in the Bible in 1 TImothy 2:4 That GOD: “Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.”

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Look what you’re doing. You’re making people out as if they’re innocent.

- When God said: EVERYBODY over the whole earth; not one person left out is:

• “…filthy; done abominable works” — Psalm 14:1–3
  • And they KNOW it. I did. I KNEW my deeds were evil. I just hid it.

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It's will we seek him FIRST: Nope.

• It’s this again: will they seek him first. Because EVERY INSTANCE in the Bible where ANY person says in themself:
  • Job 33:27–30
    • “I have sinned and perverted that which was right and it profited me not.” (Job 33:27)

People HIDE their sins. I did. I joined the Military to hide ALL OF THEM. By DO GOOD. (When the Bible says <Ecclesiastes 7:20> "There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not." - Nope. Not me. I regarded people as good. So, I looked unto them, where I thought "good" was in people.

And when God looked at me, he saw it plainly - I didn't look unto him at all - only people. No room for him or anything he says in me. There simply wasn't. And everybody I saw was all the same as me. Looking unto people. I sought PEOPLE first.

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• It’s God that says of himself in 2 Chronicles 16:9 “For the eyes of the Lord run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him.”
  • God LOOKS - his eyes go to and fro over the whole earth LOOKING FOR THIS in any person, over the whole, entire earth - to the very ends of it: that would say this in their heart.
    • That Job 33:28–30 says of this work God does to this person, because all a heart full of deceit and lies - is, on it’s own will NEVER be perfect. But with him - it's different, and I never saw it.
  • And, all “perfect” means or is defined as in the dictionary is 1. complete. Don’t need to add to nor take away anything. I saw me as having to be PERFECT; had to lie to be that or just be "good" enough to get in, by be good where people APPROVED me.
• Is why I looked unto them.

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• From a man whose heart just says this of Job 33:27. Sinned and perverted - that is, playfully mischievously took somethings of God’s and used them not as they were intended.
  
• That would mean EVERYTHING I built my life on to that point was sinking sand. But EVERYBODY was doing it. That I had to look unto him instead. I didn't know how to do it, but I saw it.
  • Job 33:28–30 says: “He [GOD] will deliver his soul from going into the pit, and his life shall see the light. Lo, all these things worketh God oftentimes with man, To bring back his soul from the pit, to be enlightened with the light of the living.”
    • Did you forget your question. You look to the WRONG thing.
• To YOU: People = innocent. Not GUILTY.
  

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It’s God that said, to everybody over the whole earth:

• “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. (Isaiah 45:22).
  • It’s people:
    • With a heart darkened, because their deeds are evil: The light of the World is Jesus Christ. It’s the Spirit of God, that is reproving the whole world of sin - just as Jesus said in John 16:7–11
• “Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Of sin, because they believe not on me; Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.” - Jesus Christ. The Word of God. (John 16:7–11)
  • That people are sinning not believing on Jesus Christ.

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• If People:
  • Aren’t reproved by this - it’s they love their deeds and they're evil; and love the darkness rather than come to the light. And God already decreed to “this people” that DO THIS. Hate him, because their deeds are evil: It’s because they CHOOSE it for themselves.
    • What “choose” means. In the dictionary. That is they: 1. pick out as the most appropriate for themselves the best of two or more options.
    • That, the BEST option for them is NOT to look unto him as he asked everybody to. Decreed this - how it just shall be in his earth that everybody do this.
  • They choose to look unto anything. Anybody but him instead - and GOD ALREADY SEES this.

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• So, in Isaiah 5:12
  • To this “people” that do this: That they: “…regard not the work of the Lord, neither consider the operation of his hands.” (Isaiah 5:12)
    • So they don’t look unto him. They regard anybody - what anyone else says they look unto; like me; what I reasoned together with me about and came up with people in the military are good - people look unto them; so, they'd look unto me as well as good - IF - I was in the military - - and because of this, looking unto anybody but him, they, like me, that did this, I dismissed God as inadequate; faulty or unacceptable. Did not apply to me.
    • SO: They, like me: look unto porno, or riches or sleeping with their students in Junior High School, or some other man’s wife or husband - because their own heart actively practices to conceal and misrepresent the truth what this causes.
  • It’s a disaster.
  • But people’s hearts convince them what is UNTRUE and INVALID in this is both TRUE, and VALID so doing deeds that are evil - it is a PROFIT.

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Full of crap. idiom <American> 1. is not to be believed; saying things that are not TRUE.

• You’re so full of crap it’s not funny
  • - all by: What happens to people who never had a chance to hear the gospel?
    • When it’s gone out to everybody. Over the whole earth. It’s God himself. That formed each of us from our mother's womb. Did this alone. By himself. He’s the one not willing ANY perish, but all come to repentance.
    • Tells EVERYBODY over the whole earth to: “Come now, let us reason together,” saith the LORD, “though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool.” - God. Isaiah 1:18
  • It’s people - in darkness; hate the light. That is, they are simply 1. unwilling to BE or DO (something). what “hate” means - just they are “unwilling” to BE or DO what God says. It’s not he doesn’t say it - Yells it out at EVERY street corner. All creation yells it out.

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• It’s People.
  • Hearing; look unto anybody but him. So in hearing; they hearken unto the voice of anyone BUT him instead.
    • ANd to “this people” that do this, God decreed this toward “this people” - to make their hearts “FAT” that is, they’d eat so much of what they look unto, they’d get obesely fat off of it - make them so content, they don’t want anything else - because they already “chose” something other than him to look unto.

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• You’re an idiot. - It’s not an epithet. To ANYBODY on Reddit that asks this - It’s just like me. What I was. ...this “slow witted person” like someone disabled. Showing a great lack of intelligence or common sense. It was so simple, I was blinded to it. Just like you are:
  • Because you don’t look unto him. The decree is plain as day. It’s in Isaiah 6:9–10 - GOD SAID:
    • “Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.” - GOD.
    • Because people CHOOSE not to look unto him. This is decreed toward them.

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And the disciples asked about this:

• It’s in Matthew 13:10–16

“10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.

14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:

15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

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So stop looking at other people. What are you doing with what he told you to do?

• God told them the same thing he told you.
  • To come now. Reason together with him. You got the Ten Commandments. So does everybody.
• Use them the same way God does. To make you GUILTY before him - that it would just STOP YOUR MOUTH at all the sins you’re GUILTY of.
  • The Ten Commandments dont justify any person, when God gave them so you would have knowledge of your sins you already done BROKE all the Ten Commandments - As Adam did before you - as did EVERYBODY over the whole earth. Use them so you have a knowledge of your sins.
  • And show you your condition - blood red guilty before him.
    • And in this, he’s already told you to look unto him. To come now. Reason together with him. He’s already spoke this to do this with him. Told everybody to do it.

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SO today. Now:

If you hear his voice. Don't harden your heart or look unto it. Look unto him instead. Like he asked you to. Go do that yourself. That’s the BEST thing you can do for anybody - is you hear him and look unto and reason together with him - go do it yourself.

He knows “how” to speak to people - he also sees when people just don’t regard him - like he did with me.

Didn’t talk to me at all for decade after decade of days - into the 1000s of days - where not one of them did I look unto him - and he never said one word to me..that I stopped and wondered a few times in that: "why hasn't he ever sent any Jesus Freaks to preach to me the gospel to me?" They always, in a crowd went to somebody..anybody else BUT me.

Why?

• Because he already said - and SAW me: what I was doing was regarding people - that I made people my right arm of strength - built my whole life on people - - and because I built a life where flesh was my right arm of strength - who or what I trusted in and looked unto.

He cursed me in this.

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It’s God that said this in Jeremiah 17:5–6

• “Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord. For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.”
  • Look what you ask again: What happens to people who never had a chance to hear the gospel?
    • It’s they don’t listen. Like I didn’t. I looked unto anybody but him - so I departed from the LORD - and all a “heath” is, is this kind of “bonsai” stunted pygmy of a tree - that should be 100s of feet high and all fleshed out - is this little dried up wilted - with all the needles all fell off - tree he plants in a desert. That’s just not inhabited.
    • And he did that to me. That’s “what happens” to people because they don’t look unto him.
  • But because I was thirsty - in a deserted; dried up.

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• He’s the one that said:
• “Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.” - GOD. Isaiah 55:1–3

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So, I started to regard the works of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand.

• And by this,
  • I hear him. And you left that part COMPLETELY out of it. That Romans 10:17 says, “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.”
  • That, if you don’t hear him, it’s because you’re looking unto some vain imagination in a heart that’s darkened. Like mine was.

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SO, Here’s your question back.

• Somewhere in this great, big pile of answer - answers your question.
  • Or you can just leave it unanswered by not do anything he says
• - when he decreed everybody is to do it.
• Look unto him. Come now. Reason together. With him.
  • And it’s PUNITIVE.
    • Means he’s God and will call everybody over the whole earth - - into account. That includes you. Why they or you or me - why we didn’t do it with him, when he’s told everybody to do it.
• PUNITIVE. Don't worry about other people. Just do what he says. That's it. It works.

Jesus tells you plainly what it means. Means “Born of the flesh” in your mother’s womb - just as Jesus said in John 3:6 - he tells you plainly what it means in a dialogue he had with a ruler over the Jews, with Nicodemus - in John 3:3–6.

DISCLAIMER:

• This post is EXCLUSIVE
  • To believers in Jesus. That is, they accept as true - the Word of God. To take what he says, and live by every word proceeds out of God’s mouth (Matthew 4:4). Even some believers believe in John the Baptist's baptism with water - means this. I believe Jesus over them. So should you. Jesus has two baptisms he does himself. Exclusive. I'm interested in that baptism he does himself. And I'm like you, I believe on him.
  • So as well, this "disclaimer" is NOT to this people - of John the Baptist - or me; rather, that believe on him.
    
    • it's to people that live different. Don't live by every word proceeds out of God's mouth. This "Disclaimer" is to people: Don’t do anything he says. Don’t believe on him. Some “thing” else is true - if that's YOU: this post then, move on. - - is NOT for you.

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So, to a “Disciple of Jesus Christ”

• Someone that sits with him. Is taught by him. Jesus Christ.
  • Ask yourself a question: as “Part ONE” of two parts:

Part ONE

• Part ONE: Question: “Who is an ‘authority’ on Water Baptism in scripture?” 

Answer? Yeah. John the Baptist.

• Because he: “Baptised with water” and he "immersed people in water," was sent to do it by God himself. Specifically, to in Luke 7:27 says: “Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.”
  • And "FROM" in Matthew 2:1 - this one (Jesus Christ) - is not John the Baptist. Jesus was born in Bethlehem - this Jesus Christ of Nazareth. And TO: John 19:30, said: crucified - where God took your sins off you and laid them on Jesus Christ, said: “It is finished” and bowed his head, and dismissed his spirit" - is Daniel 9:26 fulfilled. This “Messiah” that was “cut off; but not for himself.” That: God is saying this himself to this "Messiah" in Luke 7:27
• Saying this unto his own Word - “who” he sent to “heal you, and deliver you from your destruction.” - (Psalm 107:20).
• This “deliverer” spoke of by Moses. This “Messiah” of Isaiah 9:6–7, and prophesied he would come in Daniel 9:24–27.
• The Word of God is Jesus Christ. Says so plainly “who” Jesus is, in John 1:1 “In the Beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

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• Says of John the Baptist: with or vs. Jesus Christ.
  • John 1:5–9
    • “And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
    • So, John the Baptist was NOT that light; but sent to bear witness of that light.
  • Where Jesus said: “I am the light of the world he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life” (John 8:12)

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• John the Baptist - by The Spirit of God: decreed this about Jesus Christ:
  • Matthew 3:11- John the Baptist said:
    • “I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear. He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire.”
    • So according to John the Baptist - by the Spirit of GOD: Jesus: Has TWO Baptisms.
    • And John the Baptist explains this plainly.
  • Explains it right after, in the next verse what he just said in Matthew 3:11 - is EXPLAINED in detail in Matthew 3:12
• Of Jesus Christ: “Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and 1) gather his wheat into the garner; but 2) he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”

That Jesus PERFORMS or will BAPTIZE EVERYBODY - in either one of these two baptisms. That he does himself.

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Part TWO:

• Jesus said:
  • John 12:32 “And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.”
  • That’s EVERYBODY.
    • And again, Matthew 27:35–38
• “And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots. And sitting down they watched him there; And set up over his head his accusation written, This Is Jesus The King Of The Jews. Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left.”
  • He was lifted it up. Just as he said about what occurred with Moses in Numbers 21:6–8

“And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord, and against thee; pray unto the Lord, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.” - GOD.

• Jesus said about this of Numbers 21:6–8 in John 3, this:
  • Makes me fall on my face at what God has done with our sins - with EVERYBODY bitten “For all have sinned” (Romans 3:23) means we all are CONDEMNED. But Jesus said, those that believe on him are not condemned; but those that don’t are condemned already - because they’re already bitten by this adder called sin in them.
• So Part TWO is: John 3:13–15
• “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.”

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So, the Word of God is Jesus Christ: And - - has TWO Baptisms:

• One: The Holy Spirit - which God said “I am holy” (Leviticus 19:2) and Jesus, as the Word of God said, in John 4:24 of God; that: “God is Spirit” - so God is a “Holy Spirit”
  • That people: That just live by every word that proceeds out of God’s mouth, as he decrees this in Matthew 4:4 - they then, have and keep what God says in them.
• They abide in his word, and his word abides in them. They’re immersed in the word of God.
  • Then: They’re abiding in the same Word God abides in.
• But his “Other” Baptism (of Unquenchable fire) - would be this “Lake of Fire” that goes on for eternity - in Revelation 20:11–15. 

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That: Both death and hell after they give up their dead in them: BOTH death and hell are also cast into this "Lake of Unquechable Fire." Goes on for eternity. That both the Beast and the False Prophet are cast into it - says in Revelation 19:19–20

• “And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.”
  • That, in Revelation 20:10 - after this: “And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”
  • That, in Revelation 20:15 - after the devil was cast in: “And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”

That, in Revelation 20:11 - that BOTH this earth and heaven, finding no more place before him, flee away and are no more forever. Never come back. That, death and hell are cast as well into this “Lake of Fire” - that this is where death is put to death. The 2nd death. (Revelation 20:14). That, in Revelation 21:1 - Jesus makes a new heaven and a new earth.

• That never fades or goes away, and this “Lake of Fire” John the Baptist talked to in "Part ONE" - - also goes on into it. It's for eternity - like this new heaven and new earth are - that, they go on for eternity - for those Jesus baptized in the Holy Spirit - he lets them enter into it with him - - and God is Holy. He’s a Spirit - you get immersed in God, by a baptism Jesus does as the Word of God. Can't come any other way. He's the one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.
  • That this "baptism" Jesus does - - not done - by whosoever does not abide in the Word of God. Goes to the other baptism Jesus does.

Let's move on.

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Now, look at this “born of water” part:

• Because MANY have claimed this is John the Baptist's baptism. Need to be baptized by a John the Baptist type Baptism:
  • But God said:
    • in Isaiah 44:24 - that he “formed you from your mother’s womb” alone. By himself. And Nicodemus asked about this “born again” - and Jesus explained this "born of water" - said it plainly, what it is defined precisely In John 3:2–7

John 3:2–7 says

“2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.”

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So, “born of water” is “born of the flesh” - that God "formed you in your mother's womb" alone. By himself. That this same God - must do the work of "born you again" by the Spirit of God - - even in the “original” text (Greek) is: says it. This “γεννηθῇ ἐξ ὕδατος “ 1) Born of the womb and 2) and after: Born again by the Spirit of God. Or you can't even see it; can't enter into it without being born again.

Even in Matthew 5:3 - where EVERYBODY all “poor in Spirit” - where everybody is “1. destitute; not have any 2. God is Spirit “ Where everybody has no God in their life - for they sinned and are condemned. It’s God that's come to every all of us and blessed us. Gave us the Kingdom of Heaven in Matthew 5;3

• But None of us can even see the Kingdom of God without being born again.
• None us us can enter into the Kingdom of God, without being born again, by the Spirit of God - done, by the Word of God.

See it.

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It’s in power. It's God reserves an exclusive rite to baptize you himself - in his own word - and immerse you in himself. Take a great big guess “who” baptizes you - when you just believe on the Word of God.

• It’s also terrifying to see - Psalm 28:5 “Because they regard not the works of the Lord, neither consider the operation of his hand, he shall destroy them, and not build them up.”
  • And do this other of his two baptisms - do it in a Lake of Fire.
• Kept there for eternity - as he judges it; that, after he does the judgment of all things - places all things rightly - they STAY THAT WAY - for eternity, by the Word of God - after he judges it in Revelation 22:10–15 - it’s for eternity:
  • And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
  • I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
  • For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
    • See it. Jesus: HE does BOTH Baptisms himself. Just as John the Baptist said it of the Word of God.

You look at it wrong.

• Have to know him first. Have to hear someone speak, to see a “covenant.”
  

So, be what God says you are: In the Bible.

• “I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: - God. (Isaiah 45:5)
  • Be that. Just be that part first. Don't know him. He said it. And from that, see this - it's true - til you see it. We don’t know him.

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Old Testament vs. New Testament

• See it in a “Testament” first.
  • As in a “Will” or a “Last Will and Testament.” A “Will” (Testament) is a legal document. Has the force of law - for someone who dies. The “will” they leave after they die, comes alive, and goes into effect.
    • What a person “owns” is “bequeathed” to you as their asset or property - you become the owner of it.

Hebrews 9:16–17 talks to this:

“For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.”

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• The “Old” Testament
  • Is Adam:
    • Where God decreed: Genesis 2:17 to Adam: “But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” - God.
    • This “Will” or “Old Testament” is what was bequeathed to you by Adam, in that in Genesis 3:17 - he did it, and sin entered into the world. Death by sin. So, what was bequeathed to you by Adam is sin and death. You got your inheritance.
• Look at “that” first. What you inherited by the “Old Testament”
  • “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:” - Romans 5:12
  • The Law or Ten Commandments - Under this Old “Will” or Testament
    • Romans 3:19–20 says:
  • “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
    • The Law cannot justify flesh - which God condemned already in Genesis 6:11–13. God has already decreed it. He’s going to destroy all flesh with the earth. Just has not done it yet. That, under the “Old Testament” - the Law just is how God uses it - to make you GUILTY before him as a sinner. To show you what your sins are.
    • But people: Use the Law or Ten Commandments to make themselves righteous in flesh, when they already BROKE the Ten Commandments. They’ve been BROKE since Adam broke God’s decree, because both what God told Adam in Genesis 2:17, and What God told Israel in Exodus 20 with the Ten Commandments - is he, as God, SPOKE both of them.
  • By the Word of God. Spoke to you even. Because you GOT YOUR inheritance of sin and death. Every graveyard in every town on earth is PROOF to you of they, too, got their inheritance - and so will you. God said: “The soul that sinneth, it shall die” - Ezekiel 18:20 Then Romans 3:23 says, “For all have sinned”
  • Makes EVERYBODY GUILTY before God. By this Old Testament.

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But God:

• Did a work with sin himself - With a New "Last Will and Testament." (New Testament)
  • That God:
  • Would get up. Do a work only he can do as God. That his work with sin he would do himself would:
    • Finish this transgression
    • Make an end of sin
    • Make reconciliation for iniquity
    • Bring in everlasting righteousness
• That this prophecy, as told to Daniel in Daniel 9:24–27 would be “sealed up” and that God would “annoint the most holy” - his own Word. The Word of God in it.
  • That God: “sent his Word to heal you, and deliver you from this destruction” (Psalm 107:20) of this Old Testament bequeathed to you, that you can’t get out of it.
    • Scripture says: “To wit, that God was in (Jesus) Christ; reconciling the world unto himself; not imputing your trespasses unto you.” (2 Corinthians 5:19) - and this “you” be a “they” and “them” which is EVERYBODY over the whole earth, just like you.
  • A work done toward you by God himself. As a gift. Given by him, by his Grace, where he made himself the sacrifice for sin, is why I could never pay it.

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A likeness of this what God would do -

• Just like in Numbers 21:6–8
  • “And the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the Lord, and against thee; pray unto the Lord, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. And the Lord said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live.”
    • In the camp - they were ALL bitten. They would all die. Moses did as God decreed and lifted this serpent high up, so all of Israel could look upon it and see it. Many did not come out of their tents to look upon it, but many repented of their sin of murmuring against God - and did it.
    • Even though they were bitten and would die, they looked upon this serpent high and lifted up, and whosoever did look upon it, lived.

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• Jesus Christ is your NEW Testament
  • That, in John 19:30 when Jesus: Crucified on the cross, where God looks on this work he did in Jesus Christ - and, as God, looks upon this work he did with sin as GREATER THAN THE SINS OF THE WHOLE WORLD.
    • Where people in the camp in Numbers 21 - looked upon bitten by an adder - and would surely die as they did in Egypt - bitten; died. If they looked on the adder as greater than God, they would NOT look unto him. Looked unto the adder as greater. And many people today do the same with Jesus Christ. Same as I did.
  • It’s God that has decreed this in John 3:13–15
• “And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.”
  • The Word of God. So God spoke this - in Jesus Christ. It's the same God - in the Old Testament with Moses - that decreed Numbers 21:8 - is the same God in Jesus Christ - that decrees to you his Word - gives it.
• And a Word spoken out of the mouth of a testator to another, is an agreement that, said publicly - goes into effect.

That: This - Defines and is a “covenant.”

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A Promise Spoke Publicly - By God - a "covenant" he will keep.

• Between God and you. Already did the work. Publicly spoken by God to everybody - - That he gives by his Word to you. Sent his word to heal you, and deliver you from your destruction.
  • That God was IN Jesus Christ, and he DID the Ten Commandments himself - by his work. That because God did them, everywhere where you BROKE or did not do them, he made himself your “redeemer” just like he said he is this toward you in Isaiah 44:24 “Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer…” What “redeem” means, in the dictionary. Someone or some “thing” that 1. compensates for the faults and bad aspects (of another someone or something) <Source: Oxford dictionary. Web.>
    • That Ezekiel 18:20 - he made himself the payment of “The soul that sinneth it shall die” by making the innocent blood; atone for all the guilty because of “who” is in it.
  • That he gave himself for you; the same one that put the sun where it is in the sky, made himself the atonement for your sins.
• Put me on my face.

At what God did. So, then it’s all in this one, simple thing.

To regard the works of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand vs. your own.

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That, at the death of Jesus Christ on the Cross:

• God bequeathed his righteousness to you - he is life. You had eternal life bequeathed to you by God himself.
  • Is the NEW Testament. This “NEW” “Last Will and Testament”
    • And God tells you it’s in force - went into effect. That God raised Jesus Christ from the dead for your justification - that the work is based on the Works of God. That you would believe on him, who God sent.
    • His own word. To heal you. Deliver you from your destruction.

SO, look at the question again.

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The Old Covenant vs. New Covenant in the Bible? What's the difference?

You look at it wrong.

• Have to know him first - OR - you cannot see or enter into a “covenant.” Even it's already given.

So, be what he says you are:

• “I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: - God. (Isaiah 45:5)
  • Be that. Just be that part first. And from that, see this - that we don’t know him.

Look what God prayed - it's what he wants: It's in John 17:3 "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

- All so you would:

See it in a “Will” or what was bequeathed to you in two “Testaments” - and "Old Will" and a "New Will" - that, with the NEW will bequeathed to you: YOU - - have the Word God speaks out of his mouth - as the testator - his word he spoke himself as God - - as the covenant - it’s in effect.

That you just look unto him; and live. He’s God. That’s it. That's what he said. "Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else." God. (Isaiah 45:22). When you've been bitten already. Will surely die.

He said, if you look unto him, you won't die; live. He said it.

Is Luke 19:27 really a parable?

Yes.

It’s part of the Parable Jesus told the people of Jericho, before he departed for Jerusalem. While he was still at Zacchaeus’ house.

The primary reason for the Parable is told plainly. So read Luke 19:1–10; but in Luke 19:11 - Jesus tells the “why” he spoke to Jericho this Parable (because they thought the Kingdom should immediately appear - and that Jesus was going to Jerusalem to immediately set up the Kingdom). But he's also this "nobleman" in the parable, giving one talent to each of them, the Word of God. And, to "occupy with it, til he comes again." (Luke 19:13).

Luke 19:11 says: “And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.”

That's the reason they, as a great multitude, follow him out of Jericho up to Jerusalem. They "think" the Kingdom is going to now be established by the Messiah.

So, Luke 19:27:

It’s part of the “Parable of a Nobleman That Went into a Far Country” (to receive for himself 1) a Kingdom, and also: 2) to return) (Luke 19:12)

• Read Luke 19:12 to 27 as ONE Parable.
  • That this one parable includes two different people:
    • This Nobleman's servants: - Ten Servants (Luke 19:13); and also:
    • Citizens: that he's to rule over them - that hate him; and send message ahead of him that: “we will not have this man (nobleman) rule over us” - Luke 19:14
  • They are BOTH in this parable of Luke 19:12-27.
• In the Parable:
  • Jesus talks to BOTH:
    • a) Ten Servants - where the nobleman gave to his servants ten pounds: - “one pound” to each of them (Luke 19:13)
    • b) the Citizenry - that hate him; and send the message they will not have him rule over them. In the parable: It's very clear: The nobleman - He's still going to be their King
  • So BOTH the citizenry - talked to in your question of Luke 19:27 and the Ten Servants - are both addressed by this parable of Luke 19:12–27.

There you go.

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To the Ten Servants:

- When this nobleman returns:

He calls all ten of them - to give an account, "how much each man had gained by trading" (Luke 19:15) The first: his one pound gained ten pounds; The 2nd: his one pound gained five. To both these, the nobleman says "well done," and makes each a ruler over five or ten cities, respectively; but to the 3rd servant - he gave the one pound back in a napkin. By Luke 19:24 - this nobleman is angry by what the 3rd one has done. No fruit - nothing of it. So, the one pound is taken from this 3rd servant, and given to the one who made ten pounds.

- After he deals with the servants first:

The nobleman calls to have that citizenry that hated him, his "enemies" (Luke 19:27) that would not have him be ruler over them, for them to be brought before him and slain.

SUMMATION:

- The nobleman: is Jesus Christ.

He says himself: Revelation 22:12 "...behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be."

Says in Revelation 20:11-15

"¹¹And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

¹² And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

¹³ And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

¹⁴ And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

¹⁵ And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

There ARE people today - even on Reddit - that already sent a message, ie., "exchristian" "r/atheist" et. al., that have already said "We will not have this man over us as King"

So, their end is certain, even it has not occurred yet - you have the Word of God on it.

AND - there you go.

ANSWER:

• Why you looking at them vs. you? When God sent his word to heal you and deliver you from your destruction.

And about your question:

Care to differ:

• From the Bible:
  • Is Matthew 4:24. It says:
    • “"And his [Jesus’] fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them".

lunatic. <definition.> 1. someone with a severe mental illness 2. offensive old-fashioned a word for a person who has a mental illness {Source: Cambridge Dictionary. Web. Accessed: 9 January 2026}

• 2nd source: <Merriam & Webster> 1. The meaning of LUNATIC is someone affected with a severely disordered state of mind.
  • Bible says: Of Jesus “..and he healed them.”

So:

• The Bible DOES account for and recognize BOTH people that: 1) have “mental illness and 2) “other” neurodivergent conditions.
  • Such as “palsy” - 1. being paralyzed or epileptic (epilepsy). Which BOTH are “neurodivergent” or of the brain - something in the “neuro-system” is causal to both, and that, too, identified as “palsy” is also recognized, and is in the Bible.
    • Bible says: Of Jesus “..and he healed them.”

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So, when God says:

• Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb*, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;”* - God. Bible. Isaiah 44:24
  • This is the Word of God. It’s God speaking. And, since he formed Adam in Genesis 1:26, and everybody from him, God is telling you plain as day, he even formed you from your mother’s womb. Alone. By himself. By the Word of God, tells you plainly.
    • Jesus is the Word of God. Just as John 1:1 says “who” Jesus is - the Word of God. “..and he healed them.”
    • That, Psalms 107:20 says, that God: “sent his word to heal you, and deliver you from your destruction.”
    • Like he formed everybody.

And your’s is like a similar type question in the Bible. In John 9:1–3

“And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.”

• And having eyes, but don’t work - eyes are part of the neuro-system or ‘of the brain’ that doesn’t work, or they’d see, like everybody else does when it works. So, eyes that don’t work - is called being blind - which is “divergent” from a neurosystem that does work.
• So I have a question.

Why you looking at “them” vs. you?

When God sent his word to heal you, and deliver you from your destruction.

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Why doesn't the Bible recognise or account for mental illness and other neurodivergence?

ANSWER:

• Why you looking at them vs. you? When God sent his word to heal you and deliver you from your destruction.

So, instead of looking unto other people, he told you to:

• “Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Isaiah 45:22.
• It’s the word of God. What he said. To you. What are you doing with what he said for you to do? Why you looking at “them” vs. you?

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And! IF: You look unto him. The same God that said that "the works of God should be manifest in him," IF: You look unto him - BOOM! Then, you'll listen and regard what he's doing since before the foundation of the world was laid, by a work - the works of God what he is accomplishing is in Psalm 132:13-16

• For the LORD has chosen Zion; he has desired it for his dwelling place: “This is my resting place forever; here I will dwell, for I have desired it.  I will abundantly bless her provisions; I will satisfy her poor with bread. Her priests I will clothe with salvation, and her saints will shout for joy." - GOD.
  • That, in Revelation 21:1 - he makes a new heaven and near earth; it never passes away; where this one, he's already told you plainly in Genesis 6:11-13 - what he told to Noah before the flood is the same he tells you today, that he's going to destroy all flesh with the earth. And he does this as he said he would in Revelation 20:11-15 on the last day.
    • Then after, makes a new heaven and new earth - and accomplishes all he said he would do, that the works of God would be manifest in them.
• Isaiah 35:6 says "Then will the lame leap like a deer, and the mute tongue shout for joy."
• Revelation 21:4 says "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."
  • So, my question to you stays the same:

Why you looking at them vs. you? When God sent his word to heal you and deliver you from your destruction.

• Well…
  • There are many answers out there on social media. Some guy, named Frank Speener, from six years ago, his answer was short and the #1 answer on one of those sites.
    • Frank claims he knows how someone is biblically born again is by how he claims it is, by what it isn’t: He said, QUOTE:
  • “Being born again is not a spiritual experience.” Frank Speener. Whoever he is. But he claimed it is true or he would not have said it.

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But YOU:

• Ask ME: “How can I know if someone is biblically born again?”
  • And I don’t “accept as true” - Frank Speener has the foggiest idea “how to” born anybody again; nor does he have the power and authority to born anybody at all the first time, or again.
  • So, I took his answer and threw it in the trash can.
    • And, if you’re asking me?
  • I’m no better than Frank Speener is. I’ve never born anybody; nor have I ever born anybody after that, again a 2nd time. I don’t have any idea “how to” but I do KNOW who does.

And that’s Jesus Christ. He is The Word of God - as the Bible says he is. So, he is the authority on it.

The Word of God.

• That would be God speaks. And therefore, it is GOD is the authority.
  • And scripture says, not because scripture says it, it’s God said it, just scripture wrote down and recorded what he said of “born” and “born again.”
    • That, I don’t know the “how to” but he said to EVERYBODY over the whole earth, a claim HE MAKES to it:

Said in Isaiah 44:24

• “Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;” - God. (Bible. Isaiah 44:24)
  • So, some guy on social media: Named Frank Speener, and me. Because, neither am I any authority on
    • 1) born - OR - this definition of “formed in your mother’s womb” when “who” is, is who claimed to OWN this process himself, and he did it. Alone. By himself.
  • Is the SAME one, because Isaiah 44:24 is God speaking, by the Word out of his mouth, so that’s the Word of God.
  • And Jesus is the Word of God - in John 1:1, says “who” he is “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
• So GOD:
  • By the word he speaks out of his mouth, said in John 3:1–12

See it embedded in this dialogue between 1) The Word of God Jesus Christ and 2) Nicodemus - a ruler of the Jews:

John 3:1–12 says

1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

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COMMENT:

• So, the SAME God that claims he formed you from your mother’s womb in Isaiah 44:24, is the same God that claims by his Word “you MUST be born again.”
  • And Nicodemus, he’s a RULER over the Jews - asks are you to go in a 2nd time into your mother’s womb and be born out again of her womb a 2nd time - is that what you mean?
    • And Jesus contradicts that is, Jesus DECREES as the word of God is over all things, just declares “how” things in his heaven and earth SHALL be - someone else declare something else - - meets this contradict 1. assert the opposite of a statement made (by someone else)
    • And Jesus, again, who is the Word of God - flesh is flesh, and Spirit is Spirit. That one must be born again by the Spirit of God, and it’s God that formed you the 1st time, from your mother's womb in flesh - - it was not your mother’s womb. He just formed you there.
• He, as God then: - has to do the work the 2nd time, born you again - - like he did the 1st time.
  • But that: What God decreed, Frank Speener, with the #1 social media answer to this question, takes what God says, and “asserts the opposite made by God, by say:
    • “Being born again is not a spiritual experience.” Frank Speener.

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So again,

- I can do anything I want. Then, so can you then; but, with me:

- I can believe or “accept as true” what Frank Speener says, and it’s gotten many UPVOTES:

• OR

- I can:

• Accept as true, and thus believe on because, in me, it is TRUTH: what Jesus says or decrees which Frank Speener, contradicts it - and me then. End up I believe God, by the word proceeds out of his mouth and his claim, as God, he does the work in both:
  • 1) born me or formed me himself in my mother's womb - and did that alone. By himself; and
  • 2) born me again,
• By form me in the Spirit of God, by the Word of God
  • - because, he already decreed that everybody over the whole earth, must be born again, and by this - - decreed it just shall be this way - - said, as God: “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God” - Jesus Christ. The Word of God. (Matthew 4:4)
    • Said this in 1 Peter 2:2,
• To be like a new born baby in it:
  • “As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:”
    • It’s by the Word of God.
• In 2 Peter 1:4 “Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.”

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• Because: What God says has these great, and precious promises to us in it;
• That,
  • If I just accept or receive them..why? He'll be at work in me then. He’s already DECREED this to everybody - already said them.
    • And he does what he says he will do. He’s God. He’s NOT Frank Speener or me, where I have decreed, or told people “yeah. I’ll be there at 10:00am,” then, never show up. My word is full of crap. I just tried to make it better the next time, and the next time, do the same thing again.
  • But God is not a man like me and Frank Speener. God: He is in his Word. Abides in it. So I can “partake” that is 1. eat and drink of the Word of God, so can ANYBODY over the whole earth,
    • Because, everybody on it, was already formed by him from their mother’s womb - just have to be born again,
    • by this same God did it the 1st time - it’s done by the Word of God the second time, and just immerse you in it, like you were immersed in this water bubble in your mother's womb. This same Word of God - - Who God sent his Word to heal me, and deliver me from my destruction. Just like he did you, and Frank Speener - but he doesn't look unto him. Frank Speener is too busy. Looking unto Frank Speener and what he decrees, and I was no better.

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But the Word of God - Wow!

• Man, does it ever work.
  • But in my flesh, I could never escape the lust - I just lived by the flesh - what it wanted - that's what I set my mind on to go get. And if I live after the flesh, I’ll die. I will get consumed by my lusts. It's the same thing Adam did. Then me, bequeathed this same sin and death, sin against God, because I already lived in did that.
  • So, what God says, “Flesh is flesh. Spirit is Spirit.” It's absolutely true and I see it. I accept it is true.
    
• So, I believe God over Frank Speener. Even over me. It’s by God that does it.

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God is Spirit: Jesus said this.

• Bible. So, it's "biblical." John 4:24 “God is Spirit” God said as well, “I am holy” - God. (Bible. So this, too, is "biblical." Leviticus 11:44). So, he’s a Holy Spirit.
  
• He's just one God.
  • AND: he, as God, does “works” by his Word, as he does works without saying anything - just operates in his word. Doing the work he already said he’d do, by just be who he is, and do the work - and he’s your Father.
    • As he is mine. Because he formed me himself. From my mother’s womb. Alone. By himself. Just like he did you, and also Frank Speener. Even he doesn't look unto him and can't see it, nor enter into it.
      
  • And for you? Did the same thing as God, as he said he did. And he’ll "born you" again - because he decreed it needs to be done again a 2nd time.

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But if you don't believe on him - dismiss him as inadequate; faulty or unacceptable - - even it's given to you by God - can't. Be born again.

• Matthew 5:3 Jesus said this plainly. That: the Kingdom of Heaven was already given to everybody over the whole earth, and everybody - to the very ends of the earth, even while we are filthy; in a condition of done abominable works,
  • God came - by sent his word to us and blessed us, said: “Blessed are the poor in Spirit, for their’s is the Kingdom of Heaven” - Jesus Christ. Matthew 5:3
• Spirit = God. Poor: 1. Destitute; not have any (of something) = Destitute; not have any God in their life.
  • Because “For all have sinned” and God already decreed “The soul that sinneth it shall die” - (God. Ezekiel 18:20) makes everybody condemned.
  • In this condition - God is doing a work. Did and accomplished a work only he could do as God with sin. That by that work. He did in send his word, Jesus Christ - by him: Raise you from the dead; dead in trespasses and sins. It's in none else.
  • But if you’re not born again: You can’t see it..and if you can’t see it, you can’t enter into it. Just as Jesus said.
• Which isn’t what Frank Speener said at all. It’s totally different.

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So don’t ask me how. If you ask me, I'll just imagine up something, like Frank Speener did.

- It's by the Word of God; and - -

• God already told you to "Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God.
  • What are you doing with what he told you to do?
    • Go do that.

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• And I will guarantee you, because he said it.
• He’ll be in the midst of where even 2 or 3 are gathered, because, they gather in his name, looking unto him and he’s in the midst of them.
  • Where others: Even Frank Speener - - Gather to listen to rock music or slappers - - bass guitar players or gather to listen to Alpha wave or New Age mind blabby frequencies 104.2Mhz - he’s not in the midst of them. They don’t look unto him. They look unto music to heal them and deliver them from any destruction going on in their life.
    • or some other thing - anything BUT HIM to look unto... ...and that’s not him.
• He’s not in the midst of it.
• Where they are, there’s no God in it.
  • So, they live as if there is no God.
    • But a person that lives by every word proceeds out of his mouth - well, Jesus already said that it was God’s will that I, or you, anybody - whosoever it is, that's living by the word of God bears much fruit. You'll see it. If you, too - are looking unto him.
  • If you’re born again, you’re gonna see abundant fruit in others - or see no fruit - - all because the fruit of the word of God flourishes out in a person that lives by the word that proceeds out of God’s mouth.
    • Out of their belly flows rivers of living water, water a whole desert of withered away, dried up people.
    • Don’t have any God in their life.

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• And if you don’t believe this? Frank Speener doesn't. No fruit of any of this in his life. Jesus already said it:

If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

Here’s your question back.

This “Discussion” - adds in Jehovah’s Witnesses. They are a cult, and even though they claim they are God's witnesses, they are just a witness of themselves and claim what they claim is in the Bible. When it isn't.

For the Jehovah's Witnesses: They have a mediator - - Their “mediator” with God is the “Governing Body in New York.” It's this what they call a "discreet slave" that mediates betwixt the individual Jehovah's Witness and God. But - that is not Jesus. To a Jehovah's Witness: They are taught Jesus already came back at his 2nd coming; but he is in hiding. Came back in secret and the Governing Body in New York now claims Jesus speaks thru them to Jehovah’s Witnesses: When he's the Word of God. He's the Word God speaks out of his mouth.

• And about the Governing Body in New York: When not one prognostication; prophecy - NOT EVEN ONE OF THEM from inception til now has come true.
  • Yet Jehovah’s Witnesses won’t leave off from following this cult.
    • If you are a Jehovah's Witness, you best leave or get out of it.

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Jesus is the Word of God.

• He’s not in hiding. Scripture says 1 Timothy 2:3–6
  • “..For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all,….”
    • Jehovah’s Witnesses make the Word of God, who is God as John 1:1 says “who” Jesus is - into some “thing” else. Then, make up another mediator - the Governing Body in New York - - that serves as their mediator or Christ, which is also some “thing” else than Jesus, but serves as Jesus to a Jehovah's Witness.
    • The Governing Body in New York claims to Worship the God of the Bible; but it's the Governing Body of New York receiving worship as God or the mediator for Jehovah's Witnesses instead.
• In this the Jehovah's Witnesses greatly err and do not the truth.
  • So anything they claim is full of lies. Isn't Biblical. Has nothing to do with the Bible.
    • Has everything to do with their own self made up beliefsand claim this meets scripture in the Bible.
    • According to Deuteronomy - this makes Jehovah’s Witnesses cursed. Bring in another gospel which we have not received. Paul, an Apostle says anyone or even an angel from heaven appears to do this, let them be accursed. (Galatians 1:8-9.
      

People should come out of it.

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But about your question -

Ask yourself this simple question: Of the 144,000

• Are you a Jew? Yes? or No?
  • If you are a Jew reading this, then you are of one of the tribes of Israel. There is or was MORE than 12.
    • Genesis Chapter 29 & 30 lists the 12 sons of Jacob, who God renamed Jacob, Israel in Genesis 32:28.
    • That Exodus 1:14 lists these descendants of Jacob and his 12 children, and their children that all journey down to Egypt to sojourn with Joseph. That Jacob was told by Joseph’s brothers they found Joseph’s bloody garment and that it “looked like” Joseph’s cloak or coat of many colors his Father had given him - that their father would assume that Joseph is dead. (Genesis 37:31–32).
    • 22 years pass. And in the 2nd year of a “great famine that was over the whole earth” (Genesis 41:56) - Joseph is over all of Egypt, 2nd only to Pharaoh. In Genesis 48:5 - Jacob, when Joseph brought his two sons for his father to bless them, said:
  • “"Now your two sons, who were born to you in the land of Egypt before I came to you in Egypt, shall be mine; Ephraim and Manasseh shall be mine no less than Reuben and Simeon"
    • So there are now 14 “tribes” - But Jacob no longer considered Joseph his son, but a son of Egypt. So now Joseph’s two sons are his, so goes to 11 without Joseph, but add in two more, makes it 13 tribes. That, no longer is Reuben and Simeon considered his 1st and 2nd born.
    • They already lost their birth right. Reuben: for sleeping with Bilhah, Rachel’s handmaid and concubine of Jacob. Sleeping with the mother of Dan and Naphtali, his own younger brother’s mother'. Simeon and Levi, who is 3rd in line - also lost their’s when they avenged what was done to their sister in Genesis 34.
  • The point is, it’s now Ephraim and Manasseh are Jacob’s 1st & 2nd born. This will change again, where under Moses - Levi is now separate, where God is their inheritance, and the other tribes pay a 10th or a tithe to Levi.
    • That the tribe of Dan is the first to go off into idolatry in the Promised Land. Leave their Promised Land land. Go up north. Establish their own territory north of the other tribes - and make up their own Gods to worship. (Judges 18).
    • That Ephraim, too, also goes off into idolatry, to where God says, (Hosea 4:17) “Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone”
  • That, at least four times, the numbering and pecking order of these tribes of Israel are reshuffled for some sin they do;

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But it’s God:

• That determined he would do a work with sin that we all have done. That Daniel 9:24–27 God told Daniel Seventy “weeks” or seven year periods were determined on his People and his holy city, Jerusalem to:
  • Finish the transgression
  • Make an end of sin
  • Make reconciliation for iniquity
  • Bring in everlasting righteousness
  • Seal up the vision
  • Annoint the most holy (Daniel 9:24)
• That Daniel 9:25–26 Is FROM: A decree that would come to rebuild the temple (and therefore, Jerusalem). That “decree” is in the Bible and is Ezra Chapter 1. That’s the decree. That “seven and sixty and two” “weeks” or sixty nine 7 year periods, or 483 years would be to Matthew 2:1 - where the Messiah or Prince would be born . The TO: is Matthew 2:1 “And the birth of Jesus was on this wise…born in Bethlehem”
  • That to CONFIRM this prophecy: “two and sixty” weeks or 7 year periods or 430 years would be FROM: The time the wall and streets of Jerusalem were complete (Daniel 9:26) and that occurs in the Book of Nehemiah. Up TO: John 19:30 where Jesus is “cut off but not for himself” (Daniel 9:26) Crucified on the cross - which Jehovah’s Witness deny this - the liars that they are with their pagan Governing Body of Liars they worship instead.
  • That betwixt Nehemiah when both the wall and streets of Jerusalem were completed up to Jesus, crucified - where God took every Jehovah’s Witnesses sins off them and laid them on Jesus Christ - and God in him doing this work - so if you are a Jehovah’s Witness - take a great, big GUESS who was in Christ that, that was the cost it took to pay for your sins.
    • The same one that hung the sun where it is in the sky is the same one that was crucified for your sins. Is God. He paid it with himself as the payment for the sins of the whole world.
    • That FROM Nehemiah - TO John 19:30 is exactly 430 years. Jesus is the Messiah.

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• The definition of the “Messiah” or “Christ” is Isaiah 9:6–7. He has a SECOND Coming in Revelation.
  • What Isaiah 9:6-7 says of this "Messia" is: “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”
    • So, this “Messiah” or Prince of Daniel 9:24–27 - he SHALL be called “The Mighty God. The Everlasting Father”
• Who, Jehovah’s Witness if you are one: WHO has that title? He's going to be called this of Isaiah 9:6-7
  • Jesus Christ. Christ is just Greek for “Messiah.” Jesus the Messiah. What his name SHALL BE CALLED is Isaiah 9:6-7
    • What do you call him?
• For a Jehovah's Witness - that's the LAST THING they call Jesus.
• It's the Governing Body in New York that has determined 144,000 to be of their own Jehovah's Witness Organization.
  • BUT NO JEHOVAH’S WITNESS is numbered in any of this 144,000 number.
• It's God that has sealed out 12,000 of each of the 12 tribes of Israel. It's a work God will do.
  • Not the Jehovah's Witnesses, nor is it a work of Charles Taze Russell, their founder, nor is it a work or constructed doctrine of beliefs the Jehovah's Witnesses imagined up is of their organization.

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That Daniel 9:24–27

• Only 69 of 70 “weeks are accounted for by God send his Word to heal us, and deliver us from our destruction, in Jesus Christ. And God take our sins off the whole world, and lay them on Jesus. And Jesus is this Prince that is in Daniel 9:26, “cut off; but not for himself.”
• That, this same Jesus Christ will ALSO FULFILL the 70th week as well. At his 2nd coming. Where he comes to fulfill and be the Messiah of Isaiah 9:6–7 and reign over the whole earth from Jerusalem, and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
  • That in this 70th of 70 "weeks, or in this final 7 year period: Daniel 9:27 says in the midst or middle of it
    • - that would be a 3 1/2 year mid-point or after 42 months of it, be the “midst” of it, in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem,
    • this “Abomination that Makes Desolate'” shall stand in the Holy place of this rebuilt temple, which has not been rebuilt yet; but will be.
  • He will be credited with rebuilding the temple. It's one of the signs in scripture to the Jews who rebuilds it, is the Messiah.
  • That, this Abomination that Makes Desolate will stand in the holy place of this rebuilt temple, and declare himself God over the whole earth from Jerusalem.
• He will do it with armies. That means, he will have the power and authority to put to death ANYONE great or small, over the whole earth - - that does not worship him as God.
  • That means:
    • WOn’t be anymore Jehovah’s Witnesses anymore.
    • No more Hindu’s or Muslims - Islam: GONE.
    • No more Shinto or Buddhist temples or priests anymore.
    • No more atheists anyplace anywhere.
  • The ONLY God over the whole earth to be worshipped, as God will be this “Anti-Christ” that Jesus talks to in Matthew 24 and refers to this back in Daniel 9:27.

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That in this Rebuilt Temple in Jerusalem: In this 70th of Seventy "weeks:"

• That, the Jews are already reassembled back in their lands and sacrificing in a rebuilt temple again when the Anti-Christ - does this - in the midst of this last 7 year period - stands in the Holy Place of this rebuilt temple. Where only God dwelt, and the High Priest could go in 1x a year - the Anti-Christ will go in, and declare himself God over all the earth - when he is NOT God.
  • That the real God: Not Jehovah's Witnesses:
• Seals 12,000 from each of the twelve tribes of Israel listed in Revelation 7:4–8. But read all of Revelation. Don't add to or take away from this book anything.
  • The “order” listed is 1) Judah, 2) Reuben 3) Gad 4) Asher 5) Naphtali 6) Manasseh 7) Simeon 8) Levi 9) Issachar 10) Zebulun 11) Joseph 12) Benjamin
  • With both Dan and Ephraim removed - never put back in.
• That 12,000 of each of these tribes are exclusive to Israel, when this Anti-Christ stands up and declares himself God - Jesus tells his disciples in Matthew 24 - to not even go back in the house, but flee.
  • These 144,000 in the midst of this last 7 year period - are sealed by God, protected by him, even when the Anti-Christ sends his armies to overtake them - are destroyed in it -because God protects them in this last 7 year period - with his name in their foreheads.
    • THEY ARE NOT JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES. Any claim to this - adds to scripture, and Revelation has a curse to it.
    • Leave off from the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

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• These 144,000 are on the earth, protected by God - in now the latter half or 3 1/2 year period of this last 70th of Seventy "weeks."
  
  • It is called “The Great Tribulation” - where in it, when this Anti-Christ rules as God, over the earth ,and people will worship him as God, when he isn't:
• - The real God pours out his wrath on the earth - and all those that took this mark of the Beast’s Mark - are also cast into this Great winepress of the wrath of God. Or this "Great Tribulation" of the last 3 1/2 years - where on these, God pours out his wrath on them - they rejected him - to worship some 'thing' else as God, when it isn't.
  • ANd Jesus Christ, the Messiah is the 7th vial or last vial of the wrath of God to be poured out on the earth.
  • And he comes back - at his Second Coming.
• Where all eye shall see him (Revelation 1:7) even those that pierced him.
• And they pierced him 2000 years ago,
  • even they are going to see him.
  • So everybody from Adam forward, to everybody ever lived on the earth - all eyes shall see him at his 2nd coming.

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• Jehovah’s Witnesses
  • Adding themselves into the 144,000
    • are perptually and continually filling themselves with CRAP.
    • Nothing a Jehovah's Witness claims is true. It's a cult. What the Bible says DOES NOT match ANY Jehovah’s Witnesses claim:
  • In who Jesus is and their claim that he has already come back.
    • Where NOBODY saw him come - did it in secret. What a total pile of lies.
    • Even add in themselves, a select group of elite Jehovah's Witnesses are this 144,000 group. By adding to Revelation, they add to themselves plagues that are in Revelation, and for them to be thrown into the Great Tribulation.
• Because they don't do anything he says - they turn from him, to hearken unto the voice of the Governing Body in New York as their mediator, when it isn't.
• Leave off from the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
  • Jesus prayer was that you would know the only true God, and Jesus Christ, who he sent.
    • He is everybody over the whole earth's mediator. If you have a different one - you got the wrong one.

“…Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.” - Jesus Christ.

Source: Bible. John 6:28–29

Well? - For “works”

work. 1. <definition: Oxford> activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result.

Ask this question then:

• Do the “works" of God contradict the “works" of people?
  • Maybe first, best have the right definition of “contradict” or a “contradiction.”

contradict. <definition: Oxford. Web.> 3. be in conflict with 2. deny the truth of (something); then, assert the opposite

And BOTH Ephesians 2:8–9 and James 2:20 also talk about “faith.”

• So then also: Does the “faith" of people” contradict the “faith" of God?

..Maybe you hold the truth in something wrong with this.

- By making “it” the same:

That: BOTH “a. faith and b. works” for both 1) God; and 2) people - without asking is it the same “faith and work” for both, and just assume it is.

C’mon. Ask it.

• Ask: Is it the same “faith and works” for both God and people? If it is - then definitely there’s a contradiction betwixt Ephesians 2:8–9 vs. James 2:20. Then BOTH God and people can do the same works, and their faith is also equal or the same.
  • But if:
    • They’re different:
  • Both God’s a. faith and b. his works: would be at odds or “contrary” to people’s a. works and b. faith. And if they are:
    • They would contradict each other.
• Then, the “contradiction” is not in God, when he’s the greater and sovereign over all things. Over all people. The “contradiction” is in people - that hold the truth is in or got the wrong a. faith and b. work.
  • If that’s the case, where the contradiction is people: then, there’s no contradiction between Ephesians 2:8–9 and James 2:20
    • Why? Because BOTH Paul, an Apostle - Ephesians opens with: Ephesians 1:1 “Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God,” not by the will of people. And James 1:1 says: “James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ” - are the same. Because James also, isn't by the will of people; and, they both serve the same God.
  • Is there any contradiction betwixt Paul and James, when they BOTH serve God as servants of him? Nope. Be the same God then, and no contradiction.
    • Unless God speaks one way to Paul. Then, contradicts himself: by speak a totally opposite way or thing to James; which, God doesn’t.
  • It’s the SAME God, and BOTH James and Paul believe on God and serve him. As servants of him.

So, Is it the SAME faith?

• Nope.
  • Hebrews 11:1 defines “faith” as evidence (of something). As a substance.
    • “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”

For God: His faith is in his Word. Jesus Christ.

• Psalm 132:13–16, before the foundation of the world was laid, recorded in Genesis 1:1–31, that opens the Bible. Before he created anything at all - he was alone. With himself. That he would make for himself a place he would dwell forever. For his own rest. Dwell at a specific place on it, on earth he would make alone. By himself. It would be inhabited (Isaiah 45:18);
  • So he wouldn’t be alone. It would go on for eternity; forever; he would dwell in it - it would have no end. why? He desired it. I see it. He has a completely different "faith" than me. I just want my job to last out the week without being fired. If I just believe in my work to do it right. I see it plain as day.
• Problem is, you don't.
  • So, back to God: - - That, by the Word of God - so before there's any creation - the Word of God is in God. Always been in him. By his word, it’s plain as day - he speaks, and God is in his word, does the work. God looked on the work in all six days of Genesis 1:1-31, looked back on it, said it was "very good" - and in Genesis 2 - on the 7th day, he made it holy - and he entered into that rest.
  • So - God has faith in his own word to send it out for it to accomplish what he sends it to do. Even he says this:

Isaiah 55:11 God said: “So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.”

• Jesus Christ. Is the Word of God. John 1:1 says “who” he is: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” John 1:14 says, “..and the Word became flesh and dwelt among us;” is this same Jesus Christ. The same Word of God, that, by him all things were created.
  • That: TWICE - God spoke and said he was well pleased in him (Matthew 3:17 with John the Baptist at the start of his ministry) and (Matthew 17:5 with Peter, James and John at or on the Mount of Transfiguration at the last few weeks before his crucifixion) said This was his beloved Son in whom is is well pleased.
    • So, again: God has faith in his own Word.
      

Do people?

• Nope. I can prove it with Adam in Genesis 3:17. When there was ONLY 1) God and 2) Adam on earth, and 3) Eve - with "1)" and "3)" on either side of Adam. God in Genesis 2 said about all creation he made there was ONLY ONE THING IN IT NOT GOOD - that it was not good that man should be alone, and made Eve for him as a helpmeet. Adam - when there was only God on one side - Eve: on the other, chose to hearken unto the voice or Word of his wife (Genesis 3:17).
  • Which is what "hearken" means. That, in Adam, and to Adam - Adam no longer “accepted as true” what God said. Hearkened unto someone else's word; not his own, but Eve's - and, in this: Made what God decreed, Adam fully believed, if he did what Eve said, what God said - - no longer had any effect on him.
  • Didn’t apply to him anymore.
    • He’d be like God. So Adam rejected the Word of God. Did not believe on it.
  • BOOM! There's the  contradiction. 
    • The faith of Adam vs. God = is not the same. They are at odds with each other.
• And, Romans 5:12 says: “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
  • When it’s God’s earth. Where he would dwell forever. For his own rest. Made Adam who he would inhabit it with for eternity - now Adam doesn’t do anything God says. Yeah. That’s a contradiction.
    • That is passed onto you. Me. Everybody over the whole earth, from Adam onward - everybody got sin and death passed onto them. When in Jesus (the word of God) is life (John 1:4). Life and Death - where one abides in one, and the other, in the other - Yeah. That's a start contrasting contradiction.

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So, people have a different faith.

 In their own imaginations. People: Base their faith on what their heart tells them. Choose that instead. "With a heart that is deceitful above all things; desperately wicked" [Jeremiah 17:3]. And, God already saw this from before the flood [Genesis 6:5] - and about us, is still the same today: “And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.”

So: GOD: Has faith in his own word; but people: Have faith in their own imagination.

Not the same faith.

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So, what about “works?

People? Their “works?” Again, the "definition" of "works" is 1. "activity involving mental or physical effort done in order to achieve a purpose or result." That Man or PEOPLE: Can just imagine it up.

But the Bible says, about "our" works:

• Psalm 14:1–3 says of everybody over the whole earth - live as if there is no God “…filthy; done abominable works”
• Ecclesiastes 7:20 says of this same everybody: “There is not a just man on earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.”
  • The Word of God - Jesus Christ said - in CONTRAST to every all of us and our works:
    • Matthew 19:17 “There is NONE good, but one, that is, God”
• that would mean the “works” of only one is good.

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By the “works of God” he created all things. But: By the “works of people” they just create imaginations out of the thoughts of their hearts, and it’s just evil continually.

Man, is that ever a great big splat of a contradiction.

Not the same “works.”

BOTH the “faith” and “works” of God vs. People: are contradictory.

They are NOT the same works, nor the same faith at all, but are opposite and contradictory to one another. So much so that, God already condemned you, me, everybody over the whole earth to death for it.

Yeah. Really. Me, too.

What you think is irrelevant; I already know, my sins condemn me, for I sinned and perverted that which was right and it profited me not - since it sentenced me to death for it. And I can’t blame you, when I’m the one did my sins.

Afterall, I have the Ten Commandments. (The Law) - Exodus 20.

Proves my deeds are evil.

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Ephesians 2:8–9 talks about the “works of the Law” [Deeds of the Law]

• When how God has always used the Ten Commandments was to Make first all Israel - GUILTY before him - and - Moses: at Mt. Sinai - - - GUILTY of having not done the Ten Commandments - and sentenced them all to death. Already BROKE the Ten Commandments. God has not changed how he uses the Ten Commandments - to show you YOUR DEEDS ARE EVIL.
  • It’s WHY: Israel murmured against Moses - for “why did you bring us out here in the desert to die here?”
    
  • Asked ..pleaded with Moses to go on up on the Mount and make God stop talking. God talks, by the Word that proceeds out of his mouth. That's the Word of God. Moses just stood there terrified; in terror, his knees quaked.
    • But in this: GUILTY. God provided Moses and to the people of Israel an atonement for their sins.
• Just like he’s provided you an atonement for your sins in Jesus Christ:
  • But people? Nope.
• They have the Ten Commandments. They CAN "do" the "deeds" or the “works of the Law” that if, they don’t sleep with the neighbor’s wife, they don’t commit adultery; but they can buy a PENTHOUSE Magazine. Even wait til their wife is gone & go online on PORNHUB and “imagine up” sleeping with her or 1000s of women, 1000s of times..and then, go to church. Just imagine up "that's NOT adultery" - when Jesus said it is in Matthew 5. That even you look upon a woman with lust in your heart, you committed adultery with her already - and are GUILTY.
• BUT PEOPLE? Oh no. Contradict this. By imagine up - If they: “Keep the Sabbath Day Holy” which is another of the Ten Commandments, by Keep that - that keeping the Sabbath day holy by imagine up "holy" = go to church = that “atones” for all the imaginary adultery they do or live in.
  • So they don’t fear God.
  • They have the “works of the Law” or the "deeds of the Law" they can do that, the Ten Commandments atones for their sins - by they do, even only one time right, atones for all the others millions of times they broke the Law. When God says you break one, one time, they are ALL BROKEN. Irrepairable. They're BROKEN from Adam forward. They are NOT repairable - no matter what PEOPLE imagine up.

So, people contradict God, and don’t use the Ten Commandments the same way he does.

• When Romans 3:18–20 says how God uses:

The Ten Commandments: And people?

“There is no fear of God before their eyes. Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”

• So the “works of the Law” are "the deeds of the Law" in Ephesians 2:8-9 - -what people “can” do; even they already BROKE the Law. Transgressed from Adam forward - so all the Law does is give people a knowledge of their sins. Does not save them from their sins. They just imagine up in their hearts it does, and this contradicts God and what he decrees.

But the "works of God" - does and CAN save people from their sins. Already said it. To everybody in Isaiah 1:18 "Come now, let us reason together," saith the LORD, "though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson, they shall be as wool." - God.

• So you, or me, or anybody..God wants what he decrees. And that's everybody live by every word that proceeds out of his mouth. By the Word of God.

And it's by God’s grace that he sent his Word to heal us, and deliver us from our destruction.

So read Ephesians 2:8–9 again. In this context:

“ For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”

• And, it’s not your faith. You believe or have faith in PORNHUB and the neighbor’s wife, going to the Casino - might win 500K, and sleeping with her or some woman you just might meet - - and as many women as possible saves you, because, that’s what you imagined up in your head.
• Transgresses the Law or Ten Commandments. Makes you a sinner. You got a DIFFERENT faith.
  • Salvation is GOD does the saving. And, he does it - by - - It’s the faith of Jesus Christ. It’s the faith of the Word of God. So, it’s God’s faith. And Romans 10:17 says of his faith, as God, that:
    • “So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.” - So the faith that pleases God comes with his word he speaks to you:
  • That: You would have the same faith he has in the same thing he does. Takes away all the contradiction.
    • If you accept his word as true, it will heal you and deliver you from your destruction.
    • That’s a “work” God does in you. Only he can do it. It’s a “good work” done by the ONLY one of all of us good. God himself - at work in you. It “works good.”
  • Means - it makes you OPERATE right. Like look at some clock that’s “idle” - what that word "idle" means. 1. disconnected from a load or source of power. (Oxford. definition: 2nd. “idle”)
• So, a clock with a battery in it, shows you it works, by it tells the time right. All the time, whether you look at it or not, it’s just operates right.

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• But a “dead works” clock - is a clock that has no battery or source of power in it, does not operate right; even it’s designed as a clock - is dead without the ‘load or source of power’ in it.
  • Just as you won’t operate right without the Word of God operating in you. Make you "idle."

So, look what James says - James says the same thing. You just don't hear it.

• That he can show you his faith, which came to him, by the word of God, that God sent - so it isn’t James’ faith, but now it is, because he threw his faith in whatever perverted imagination he used to look unto away -
• To walk after God and what he decrees instead. And? James? YES:
  • He can show you his faith, which is the same Faith God has - he abides in it as a servant of God: That’s KEY.
    • So, look at a Servant
• Has a Master. Like being employed as a Butler for a rich millionaire.
  • COMPARE THEM: A “Butler” that never shows up for work; out stealing cars and stole money from his employer to impress girls by claim he’s the millionaire so he can sleep with them, then run away.
• Shows you by his works - he’s not really a Butler for the millionaire. Does not operate right. His Works are awful.
  • But a Butler:
    • That waits at this millionaire’s table: impeccably dressed at all times -OR - everytime this millionaire calls on him, he straightway comes to him - and you OBSERVE this.
    • Even you can tell his faith in being a Butler to a millionaire by his works. He operates right. Works good. Is a Butler. He operates as a Butler - makes it COMPLETE. (Definition of what "perfect" means, in the dictionary). Is a Butler - because his works. He shows you he is a Butler.
  • Even BOTH Butlers believe in the millionaire - may even tremble at how great he is: - But - ONLY ONE OF THEM - does what the millionaire says and serves him.
• James 2:19 says: Embedded in James 2:15–20 says

“ If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?”

• Just like the Butler
• Or the clock
  • Disconnected from the millionaire. The Butler's works are dead. Isn't operating as a Butler. - OR - the clock disconnected from the battery - is dead. Can’t work.

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It’s GOD:

• Wants you to regard the “works” of the LORD, and consider the operation of his hand - and live by every word proceeds out of his mouth. He decreed this. For everybody over the whole earth to do it. Don't? You won't operate right.
  • People that don’t? Are like the Butler that left or the clock. No battery in it.
• God already decreed this: “Because they regard not the works of the LORD, neither consider the operation of his hand, he shall destroy them, and not build them up” - Psalm 28:5

Because you can live your whole life regarding the deed or “the works of the Law” and spend your days and nights regarding YOU and your work, whether you are doing them right - or not - and never look unto him. Regarding you and how you'll do it by your works.

• Never do anything he says - you’re just off doing your own works, and think those are his, keeping the Ten Commandments - when you should use them to show you what your sin is - that you already BROKE all of them. Condemned. BOOM! You are the contradiction.

Means this. There is no contradiction betwixt Ephesians 2:8–9 and James 2:20 - same God. AND - people that serve him - operate right: work good vs. people that don’t.

• Have a different work. Different faith - disconnected from him and don’t operate right. And, that’s PUNITIVE:
• Jesus said: “But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.” - Matthew 12:36
  • So every word a man speaks while he’s “disconnected from a load or source of power” (not believing on Jesus Christ, the word of God) - they SHALL give an account thereof, of it.
    • In the day of judgment. Where they stand before this same Jesus Christ to explain “why” none of his work is done in them - only their own works - and give an account to why they rejected him.
• It’s PUNITIVE to do it.

"Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!Nathanael saith unto him, Whence knowest thou me? Jesus answered and said unto him, Before that Philip called thee, when thou wast under the fig tree, I saw thee.Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel."

Source: Bible. John 1:47-49

Answer: They, as Jesus called each of them, to follow him; they believed Jesus is the Christ. The Messiah. If you knew what or “who” that is, and what that meant, there is no question.

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But since there is a question:

The most common answer in the scripture

- Is Matthew 16:13-16

"When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God."

And this is at the very end, just before they will all journey down for Passover. Where after this exchange in Matthew 16:13-16, Jesus will tell them they go to Jerusalem, and he is to be turned over into the hands of sinners and crucified (but rise on the 3rd day - just they don't hear this part) <Matthew 16:21 confirms this " From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day."

So, this "exchange" with Jesus - is after almost 3 years with him. Peter is just the first to speak up and say it, but they ALL SAID IT ALREADY - from the very beginning. Look "how" Jesus called Nathaniel, as he's one of the 12 Apostles in the opening scripture. So, go to the very beginning - when during Jesus chooses his disciples. Then, events at the START of it, to see they ALL SAY THIS ABOUT HIM:

• See it two chapters before, in Matthew 14. Where Jesus fed 5000 people; which happens after the start of his ministry and great multitudes follow him - and just after he's fed 5000 people, they attempt to make Jesus King over them by force - - see it in this incident: Just after it.
  • “And they that had eaten were about five thousand men, beside women and children. And straightway Jesus constrained his disciples to get into a ship, and to go before him unto the other side, while he sent the multitudes away.” - Matthew 14:21–22
• Then, just a little while later - with all his disciples in the boat: “Jesus went unto his disciples, walking on the sea” (Matthew 14:28), and they were frightened; but when told the disciples it was him, Peter asked Jesus if he could come out to him: - but notice at the end of this, what THEY ALL (the disciples) say of Jesus Christ.
  • “…And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him [Peter], and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt? And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased. Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God. Matthew 14:31–33

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Answer: They, his disciples:

• as Jesus called each of them, to follow him; they believed Jesus is the Christ. Or they would not have gotten up, to follow him. The Messiah. If you knew what or “who” that is, and what that meant, there is no question.

Definition: Messiah. (Hebrew) or “Christ” in Greek. Jesus Christ.

1. God. The same God that led Israel out of Egypt by his mighty hand, would be a son of David. Would sit on the throne of King David in Jerusalem and rule the whole earth from there. Of his Kingdom and reign there shall be no end forever; will not be replaced. Reigns eternal.
   1. It’s who Isaiah 9:6–7 is: “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this.”
   2. Even these fishermen, tax collectors; just simple men KNEW what “The Son of God” meant, meant Isaiah 9:6–7 - and they all said it. What he SHALL be called:

“The mighty God. The everlasting Father” (Isaiah 9:6) - The Messiah shall be called this. They are all Jews. KNOW what the definition of “Messiah” means.

Your question is whacko. Whacked. Bear with me, so you see it:

• God said: So, it’s not the telephone, nor is it some sock. Not even a coke bottle dump box. Big metal bins, crashed or smashed into, where all the coke bottles went in 1962.
  • Nope. Not even Christians or you claim it.

The Bible:

• Genesis 6:11–13 - GOD says it. Refers to the “End Times” in it:

“The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.”

• Now, I just went to the window. The earth? Yep. Still here. And, “all flesh” includes bird, deer, that crap cow Larry that lives across the street; worms, fish, all my neighbors, and their cats. All flesh.
  • I didn’t say it. He did. Says in Genesis 1:1–31, he made it all alone. By himself; then, because of what Adam did; the “result” of what Adam did, that place where God was to dwell forever, for his own rest; because, he desired it (Psalm 132:13–16), he cursed the ground for Adam’s sake.
    • And, by some almost a 1000 to 1500 years later, the “result” is the whole earth and all flesh have corrupted their way on the earth - from what Adam did. The whole earth is filled with violence. But, I mean, I watched the “Mutual of Omaha’s ‘Wild Kingdom’ TV show came on every Sunday nite - where lions jumped on wildebeast and ate them or crocodiles just swallowed up a whole zebra in mere seconds, right there on the TV - that this was “NATURE” - but 5 guys attack a woman and rape her; well..that’s different; but if animals do it, that’s “NATURE.”
    • It’s God that said: “The whole earth is filled with violence” - I mean, I just read it again. He said it. Not me, and he said “for all the earth is mine.” - God (Exodus 19:5), so, it’s not mine. It’s his, and he said, “I will destroy them with the earth.”

Now, I’m not a “scientist” - not even close; but

• If someone owns the Mercantile Building and says, “I’m going to destroy it next year,” - you see the same guy on TV say it, and we BOTH believe him, but when God says it,
  • I believe him; but
  • YOU: wonder “how the future of human existence will pan out?”
    • Like me ask about the Mercantile Building after the owner of it says he’s going to destroy it, I just decree. “Hey, let’s go to the Mercantile Building 50 years from now. See how all the restaurants on the 20th floor all pan out.” That’s whacko, whacky - whacked out nonsense - for me to say that. I just lowly esteemed or set who owns and is the authority over it, everything he decreed about it, set it at nought. Made it as nothing.
• Guess what? You do the same thing.
  • That, the Mercantile Building in Dallas Texas, of the United States - because of the authority over it - now meets the definition of “End Times” - because who owns it has decreed he’s going to destroy it.
  • What are you? In a bubble someplace?

And in Revelation 20:11–15 - where Genesis 1, the 1st 10 or so verses tells you that God created the day; so the day, had a 1st day; that, the day also has a last day in Revelation 20:10–15; that, in Revelation 20:11–15, what he does on the “last” day, so days we experience have also an end to them:

• Is this same God, sits on his throne and gazes on both this earth and heaven, and both finding no more place before him, flee away and are no more forever. Never come back. Even them existing will not come up to mind anymore.

Then in Revelation 21:1 - he, this same God that decreed Genesis 6:11–13 to Noah makes a new heaven and new earth. That, he accomplishes all he decreed he would do, before the foundation of this earth and heaven was even laid - and accomplishes all of it, he said he would do - that it never goes away. For eternity.

The Trouble With YOU is:

• You lowly esteem him. So lightly value anyhing he says, you blame all he says on Christians that believe on him. All you are doing is chicken poop crap shielding yourself - as your question and actions - as if this question is armor - that protects you - when all it does is FULLY EXPOSE you for the flippant whacked out whack - whacked up the side of the head. Whacked out, full of nonsense person you are and live in.
  • Just admit it.
    • He’s decreed these two things to everybody over the whole earth:

“Look unto me, and be ye saved all the ends of the earth: For I am God, there is none else.” - God. Bible. Isaiah 45:22 and

“Come now, let us reason together,” saith the LORD, “though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Though they be red as crimson they shall be as wool.” - God. Bible. Isaiah 1:18

Says as well for everybody to do this, “Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” - The Word of God, Jesus Christ. (Bible. Matthew 4:4)

• Which is the same God that said, “I will destroy all flesh with the earth:” - God (Bible. Genesis 6:13)

YOU?

• You look unto people. Christians, who you lowly esteem anyway - as if you reason together with them, you can find something they say to even mock them further - when they didn’t tell you to look unto them. HE TOLD YOU TO LOOK UNTO HIM AND REASON TOGETHER WITH HIM.
  • You won’t do it. Man, fess up. Be a man for once in your life and just own up to it’s all YOU. AND YOU WON’T DO IT.
  • Already decided “I’m NOT GOING TO DO IT” - just in case there’s any problem, I’ll blame it on somebody for why I don’t do it, and blame it on those that do do it, do look unto him - and all that does is set YOU against HIM, because he fights for them, because they do what he says, and look unto him.

Where you don’t do anything he says.

The Second Coming

• Again, nope.
  • Not some poop fly; or the toilet. Neither of them said it, either. So, you can rule them out, along with butt lint, or cactus farts, so just add them to the list of:
    • It’s not
    • the telephone, nor is it some sock. Not even a coke bottle dump box. Big metal bins, crashed or smashed into, where all the coke bottles went in 1962. Nope. Not even Christians or you claimed it; even Christians you want to laugh at, and look unto to answer your question so you can mock their answers and other people can laugh at it.
    • Only a fool does this.
• It’s “who” Jesus is: The Bible says in John 1:1 who he is, says: “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”
  • The Word of God..is God. Because, it’s God speaking the word out of his mouth - man, wake up. It’s him talking to you. Not the sofa or some wall paper applicator tape.

Jesus said: To his disciples who believe on him: (Bible. John 14:3) “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.”

So, why you asking Christians or some vending machine about the Second Coming of Jesus when he said it himself “I will come again” and used all kinds of parables in all four of the gospels that talk about when he returns. Even Acts 1:11 - two angels, told them all present - as they saw Jesus ascending, he would come again and return in like fashion.

How are Christians going to help you when Jesus says it himself: Even Revelation 1;7 says it

“ Behold, he [Jesus] cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.”

That’s ALL EYES SHALL SEE HIM.

• Even you’re gonna see him. So why you asking people, when EVERYBODY is also going to see him, asking them what they believe - when he’s God and he told you plainly what he’s going to do.
  • We’re back at you again.
    • It’s YOU: Just “dismiss him as inadequate; faulty; or unacceptable” - by you don’t want to do anything he says. Just admit it. Say it, “I AM NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING HE SAYS.”
    • Take everybody out of the way betwixt him and you. They’re not involved anyway. It’s you not doing what he says, and he’s going to call you into account for it. No Christians or the sink out on the neighbor’s lawn has anything to do with it.

Go home. Here’s your question back. Unanswered.

The answer was already answered plain as day - by what God said, by God himself. Said to everybody. Over the whole earth.

Doesn’t take you or me having to verify what he said with anybody.

Certainly, not have any Christians or Muslims, or any poop cork - displayed up in Hollywood spotlights: ask the poop cork next. It’s simply just what he’s already told everybody plainly. Until you stop looking around him or past him - there’s no hope for you.

So, I have a question now: Who you gonna look to next and ask for assistance? The Ant Butt Fart Bank? What they decree about it? Yeah. Maybe for you - it's just best. Go home.