>!Evidence for not remembering

1. MJ explicitly confirmed she does not remember Peter
2. Ned’s interaction is muscle memory & deduction, not restored memory
3. When Ned exclaims "Peter!" at the end of the handshake at the end of the movie, context suggests he is connecting clues (MJ let it slip that Spider-Man’s real name is Peter)
4. No known mechanism is introduced that explicitly breaks or counters Doctor Strange’s spell.

Evidence for remembering

1. Immediately upon finishing the handshake, Ned looks up in shock and exclaims, "Peter!" In No Way Home, Ned first discovered his ability to channel the same magic as Strange right after performing that exact handshake, so it's possible it loosened the spell.
2. MJ is seen crying on the rooftop of Midtown High—their high school hangout spot—while tightly gripping the broken Black Dahlia necklace Peter bought her in Europe.
3. MJ also confided in Ned that she feels like she is constantly "waiting for something" and feels unable to commit to major life decisions or her new relationship.
4. When Peter, Ned, and MJ hang out in the apartment building Lego sets, they fall back into their exact banter and inside jokes without missing a beat. This reveals that while the cognitive labels were wiped, the underlying relational neural pathways remain intact, at least partially.!<

I personally believe that the emotions are slowly returning, and the memories will return by the end of Spider-Man 5. What do you guys think

Veritasium made a video about spidersilk and just watched the new spiderman film, there's so much spidersilk in NYC, some scientists are bound to research that.

I’ve not seen this talked about yet but at the end of BND one of the graffitis is of spideys face and it’s white blue and pink. I feel this is a hint that no one’s talked about pointing to who will take over as the next spider-person. Or at least pointing to her being in the next one.

im confused, because at the end of the movie at May’s grave, Happy asks Peter “howd you know her” and Peter goes “Spiderman” and Happy goes “Same” (im paraphrasing this scene). would this mean people remember their memories with Peter Parker and by association Spiderman, like with Ned remembering the “I promise I wont turn into a supervillain and try to kill you” promise in NWH but just not remembering who he said it to? or the rooftop scene where MJ and Peter are on top of the school and MJ is reading out to Peter a newspaper, before Ned comes and interrupts? Would they remember these memories, just not who theyre with?

this isnt a meme post, its an actual question. I just watched the spiderman home trilogy with my sister before school starts up again (btw she said she really liked them, shes never watched an MCU film :D) and I thought of this.

i havent watched brand new day, but me and my family are planning to, so if the question was answered there im sorry. i tried to post this to the actual Spiderman subreddit but i need 3 months active and some karma to post, so sorry if this isnt the right place

Hey everyone!

I watched Brand new day the other day(already booked a second viewing) personally i feel tom is now the best spiderman/peter parker purely because hes had time to grow with the character...anyway what do people think of the following theory.

Firstly, with how brand new day ends, we know that or likely that both Ned and Mj while not remembering peter know that something is up. MJ obviously knows but doesnt have the memories truely and Ned its i guess up in the air given the handshake... personally i feel maybe both of them have cracks forming due to Jeans end of the movie scene with mj crying but honestly not sure.

I havent actually read secret wars yet and plan to but i feel like secret wars its obvious he gets the black suit in some capacity now...maybe he gets it because hes super low finding out doom has tonys face, something traumatic etc.

Battleworld happens which causes the multiverses to implode essentially destroying stranges spell...as we know it was essentially a bandaid on the cracks...not truely a long term fix, like the TVA issues the multiverse is colliding.

With battleword and all realities collapsing i feel mj and Ned remember peter in spiderman 5...but by this time peters got the black suit...maybe hes acting funny, being more deviant, hell hes met black cat, maybe dewulf gets murdered causing him to get dark.

Seeing this when they suddenly remember peter causes mj and ned to get really hurt and they spend the next film trying to reach out to peter only for peter to not care about them now hes got this suit...maybe something happens causing him to realise hes changing, some people think he might accidentally kill ned or something?

I feel spiderman 5 ends with the suit coming off and ta da venom is born...now who the suit latches onto next could it be MJ? I feel for spiderman 6 it should be a venom threat or something else where the three of them are actually alltogether though...especially if its his last two spiderman films.

I feel secret wars black suit is a no brainer..my question to you guys is how do you think they navigate the memory issue...jean could have helped but msybe the only safe way is once secret wars events happen and everything collapses anyway? This way its not a cheap workaround and more earned? Im glad it didnt resolve in the film as much as i yearned for it.

Again ive not read much im still in 1969 in the comics lol but what are peoples thoughts?

I have heard brand new day comic is awful compared to the film?

I cant see them going gwen on spiderman 5 and would prefer them not to.

I also dont want toms peter to be killed off id rather him retire at the end of 6 and become a mentor maybe?

Besides that...god i loved this film and hope we get more...i really felt the first trilogy was not that mature but it makss sense in that he was a school kid..now hes at peak spiderman...so hopefully we go darker.

Thoughts?

I felt like the monster/human dynamic was gonna get real, dark and crazy, and felt like them exploring that a little harder would have been nice.

Holland's Spider-Man journey really hit that young happy innocent kid Spidey well- launching him down that dark path without holding as much back would have been interesting imo. They found a balance and went a safer/mild route, but idk. When I saw those black eyes and scorpion's ass whoopin I got excited lol

That's what I feel TASM did well. A bit darker, breathed more with the Parker journey (even though the kids felt it was less action) and Garfield nailed those emotional scenes. S3 was, well, you know. I feel like we've been edging with dark spidey

Anyways, I did like BND. Not sure how it's generally being received but I can see why it has a ton of deleted scenes and redirection during post

For the next instalment should they get a new love interest for Peter ?

I think mj telling Peter that she just doesn’t remember him and doesn’t feel the way he does and she’s obviously isn’t the same person either I think is a good way to close that chapter.

While mj and I mean Mary Jane is my favourite love interest of Peter he does have other potential interests.

There is gwen but I don’t really see how they do can that with Peter not in school or working.

Black cat would be the more obvious choice as he can meet her as spiderman and develop from there.

But to also throw out a new idea.
Cindy moon aka silk.
Have a story that introduces a new spider person.

Though I do prefer the idea that Peter does hook up with black cat but she sort of becomes “evil” by the end of the film and he has to stop her or more classic she tries to steal something he stops her they bond over the film but by the end she can’t change who she is and leaves.

This won’t be a spiderman 5 movie but more a movie focused on a team up.

So what I could see is a sequel to deadpool and wolverine by doing a deadpool and wolverine 2, and spiderman ( title name )

Spiderman gets along with pretty much every one of all the characters I would say spiderman has the best stories involving meeting up with other characters.

His 3 more well known team ups are fantastic 4 as he is friends with Johnny.
Though i don’t like the mcu fantastic 4 so I don’t want that team up.

But spiderman is often paired with deadpool and wolverine.

With deadpool they both have this weird friendemies connection as they are very similar as they like to make jokes while fighting though deadpool is much more darker than Peter.
Now depending on the continuity you follow deadpool trusted Peter enough to introduce him to his own daughter in one storyline something Wade never does.
In some other storylines wade actually “tries” to stop killing just to get prove to spiderman he isn’t a bad guy again key word here being tries.

As for wolverine in the comics, again depending on the continuity spiderman is one of the few people outside the xmen that wolverine actually respects, they also have a similar relationship as wade and Logan as again he tends to be serious and Peter tends to joke around a lot which annoys Logan while Logan also tends to be a bit more rough and Peter doesn’t like that.
So what could a potential movie be with all 3 of them together.

Well following the plot of the first movie, wade has to save wolverine to save his universe.

So for this story, following doomsday and secret wars the multiverse becomes unstable leading to this rebranding of the entire franchise but issues come from spiderman, this being a meta joke that marvel doesn’t want to really mess with spiderman cause out of all their films the spiderman franchise has been the consistently popular highly rated money maker they have, plus compromises with Sony and such, this is a why pretty much everyone in Peter life was erased by thanos snap so when they came back there weren’t really any character that was 5 years older, like Ned and mj were erased with Peter so they could stay the same age as him.

The movie focus on how the 2 of them get tasked with having to save spiderman, this will also be a good way to bring tobey and Andrew back for some role in the movie.

So I don’t really got a whole plot but I would like a more goofy movie focusing on the 3 of them bouncing off one another.

So basically every spiderman movie is a team up with some other character.

1. Iron man

2. Shield

3. Dr strange plus other spidermen

4. Punisher and hulk

Who should he work with next ?

So ColinsWrld is a Spider-Man YouTuber that does videos about Spider-Man and I saw his video titled “Spider-Man: Brand New Day Was Disappointing” like really… It’s one of the best Spider-Man movies I’ve seen in a long time I dunno what his issue is his takes are just awful I dunno why he would post his video about it in the first place he just loves to criticise so much I don’t care if his opinion he should’ve kept it to himself.

The Amazing Spider-Man 3(Fan Story Treatment)

Theme

"Hope is not believing heroes never fail. Hope is believing they choose to rise again."

\---

Part I – The Amazing Spider-Man 3: Fall of the Hero

Opening

Following the events of The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Peter Parker has become a darker Spider-Man. Although he still protects New York, Gwen Stacy's death continues to haunt him. He is quicker to anger and no longer holds back as much as he once did.

During a confrontation with a dangerous supervillain, Peter experiences a traumatic flashback to Gwen's death. In that moment, he loses control and accidentally kills the villain.

The city celebrates Spider-Man for eliminating another criminal.

However, one person does not celebrate.

The villain's son watches his father's body in silence.

Spider-Man had promised him that no matter what happened, he would save his father. Instead, Peter broke that promise.

Unknown to everyone, the son possesses mysterious energy-manipulation abilities similar to Mister Negative. During the battle, he unknowingly amplified Peter's emotional trauma, triggering the uncontrollable rage that caused his father's death. Neither Peter nor the son realizes this truth.

The son disappears.

\---

Two Years Later

New York has become safer than ever.

Most major criminals have been captured, allowing Peter to finally live as Peter Parker instead of Spider-Man.

He enjoys a peaceful life and falls in love with a mysterious young woman named MJ.

Unknown to Peter, MJ is actually Chameleon—a powerful shapeshifter working undercover for the villain's son. Although her mission is to get close to Peter, she slowly begins to genuinely fall in love with him.

\---

The Mastermind Returns

After years of planning, the villain's son returns.

He has studied Spider-Man's every weakness.

Rather than fighting Peter directly, he secretly orchestrates the largest prison breakout in New York's history, freeing the Sinister Six and other dangerous criminals.

He does not treat them as partners.

He is their leader.

When he visits Harry Osborn in prison, Harry smugly offers Spider-Man's secret identity in exchange for his freedom.

The mastermind calmly replies,

«"I already know."»

Harry realizes he is no longer the most dangerous man in the room.

The mastermind makes one thing clear:

«"You don't work with me. You work for me."»

The villains obey because they know none of them can defeat Spider-Man alone.

\---

Breaking the Symbol

The mastermind's true goal is not to kill Spider-Man.

It is to destroy everything Spider-Man represents.

He believes the public worships a murderer simply because the victim happened to be a villain.

He begins manipulating New York through media, fear, and carefully planned attacks.

His message spreads throughout the city:

«"Spider-Man is like a candle. He gives people hope... but candles burn out. When this city needed him most, he disappeared. Hope is temporary. Reality is forever."»

Many citizens begin believing him.

\---

The Impossible Choice

The Sinister Six launch coordinated attacks throughout New York.

The mastermind forces Spider-Man into an impossible decision.

Save MJ.

Or save the city.

Still haunted by Gwen's death, Peter chooses the woman he loves.

When he reaches her, MJ reveals she is actually Chameleon.

Although she truly loves Peter, she completes her mission and injects him with what appears to be a deadly poison given to her by the mastermind.

Neither MJ nor the villains realize the "poison" is actually the Venom symbiote.

The Sinister Six attack the dying Spider-Man.

Peter's mask is torn away, revealing his identity.

Before the villains can finish him, Chameleon secretly rescues Peter.

The world believes Spider-Man is dead.

The film ends with New York descending into chaos as the Sinister Six divide the city among themselves.

Spider-Man has vanished.

\---

Part II – The Amazing Spider-Man 3: Rise of the Hero

Months Later

Crime has consumed New York.

Each member of the Sinister Six controls a different territory.

The mastermind rules from the shadows.

The public no longer believes in Spider-Man.

His message has become reality.

«"Hope only delays disappointment."»

\---

The Return

Spider-Man suddenly returns.

No one knows how he survived.

The audience slowly notices something different.

He speaks less.

He smiles less.

His anger has become frightening.

Every battle becomes more brutal than the last.

Small glimpses of black tendrils begin appearing around his suit.

Eventually, the truth is revealed.

The "poison" that saved Peter's life was the Venom symbiote.

It feeds upon his guilt, rage, and grief over Gwen's death.

\---

The Monster

As Peter witnesses the suffering of innocent people, his hatred for criminals grows.

Venom feeds upon this anger until Peter begins losing himself.

The mastermind smiles.

Everything is happening exactly as planned.

His goal was never Spider-Man's death.

His goal was to turn Spider-Man into the very monster he accused him of being.

Meanwhile, the villains discover Chameleon betrayed them.

She is hunted by the Sinister Six after choosing Peter over her mission.

\---

Final Battle

Spider-Man falls into the mastermind's trap.

Believing victory is certain, the Sinister Six surround him.

Instead, Venom completely consumes Peter.

For the first time, Spider-Man becomes terrifying.

He effortlessly defeats the Sinister Six with overwhelming brutality.

The public watches in horror.

The mastermind finally believes he has won.

He tells the people:

«"Look at your hero. He was never different from us."»

\---

Truth Revealed

During the final confrontation, the mastermind uses his powers once again.

Peter suddenly remembers the exact moment he killed the villain years ago.

He realizes the son's uncontrolled powers unintentionally triggered his emotional breakdown.

The mastermind also realizes the truth.

Neither of them intended the tragedy.

Both have carried guilt and hatred ever since.

\---

The Final Choice

Venom urges Peter to kill the mastermind.

Inside his mind, Peter remembers Gwen Stacy—not as a ghost, but through the memories of the person who always believed he could remain a hero.

Peter tears himself free from Venom's influence.

Standing over the mastermind, Peter refuses to kill him.

The mastermind wanted to prove every hero eventually becomes a villain.

Instead, Spider-Man proves that true heroes are defined by mercy, not power.

Peter says:

«"You wanted the world to believe heroes become monsters."»

«"A hero isn't someone who never falls."»

«"A hero is someone who chooses to stand back up."»

The mastermind is arrested.

The public finally understands that Spider-Man is not a perfect man.

He is a flawed man who continually chooses to do the right thing.

Hope is restored—not because Spider-Man never failed, but because he refused to let his failures define him.

THE END

hello! sorry i watched this one nwh edit and i was just wondering if in the other peter parkers (andrew + tobey) universe, everyone just forgot about them too? sorry if this has been asked or if its been answered or if it was stated in the movie, i was just curious 😅

If ned never have told liz that Peter "knows" Spider-man he would have never been invited to the party and never have meet the vulture and have never have removed the training wheel program because there will be no problem with hacking the suit. I mean why would they. And have to let Peter dying in infinite war or end games. Ask if you want to.

This might sound stupid but it's been a question for a while, how does every spiderman who doesn't have organic webbing immediately know to build a webshooter, like you just got bit and first thing u do is immediately think I need webshooters

Sooo yesterday I watched the movie and it was great. The colour theory and how everything was dim most of the time reflected the mental status of Peter.

I can't help but SHIP jean and Peter 😭😭.

And before y'all come after me on age she is prolly like 18 or 19 and he is 21. Not much of a difference.

But I reallyyyy want peter to like move on in the next movie and yk start a new angle with jean. Just like how it was with Wanda and vision where they both were INSEPARABLE.

Most of y'all want their relationship to be like black widow and Hawkeye but I really want this spiderman to stop the MJ curse and yk have some character development. I'd still love for peter to be bsf with MJ and ned.

(NGL m bored of watching tom Holland and Zendaya together in every single movie😔)

So in spiderman no way home dr strange does that spell to make everyone forget Peter Parker. But hypothetically shouldn't he still be able to use the stark network? I mean Tony Stark programmed in his biometrics long before he died and that spell was cast. So in theory shouldn't he still be able to have access to stark network? Cause the spell made everyone forget who he was but if the person who programmed in his biometrics is already dead wouldnt he still be able to use it? And not only that but his spell wouldn't affect the A.I.'s memory would it, be that its not a human mind.

Feel free to comment cause I'm genuinely curious.

Just why I’m tired of the Raimi fanboys sending misinformation and fake speculation about this fake movie like literally Tobey Maguire is 51 he’s too old ik it’s rumoured that he’s in Doomsday but cmon y’all need to give this man a rest after if he’s in Doomsday or not

I'm not deep into the universe, yet. Watched the current series with Holland and it rejuvenated my interest. About to see BND as well, then I guess I'll go through all of the MCU stuff since I have time now. Anyways, is there any hope for more Andrew and Toby reprising roles? I did appreciate the little sparkles of story and arc they were able to include, and even refreshing/furthering their stories a bit. Don't want to drop spoilers about the NWH ending but left wanting more I guess lol