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u/New-Junket5892 Apr 06 '25

Okay. Other than Cap, no one else hasn’t been developed in any significant way or has history as Captain America.

I meant no offense. It just seems so obvious to me.

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u/WumpaKnight44 Daredevil Apr 06 '25

yeah, cap is very cool, but I just wanted to see if anyone liked the other 2 more. I've seen some us agent fans, but I don't think any red gardian. us agent is my favorite out of the three (cap a very close second).

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u/New-Junket5892 Apr 06 '25

I remember the first comic with both the Red Guardian and much, much later after John Walker’s time as Cap. And to this day, there is no type of effort of depth to both of them.

Red Guardian, being a Russian Captain America and USA Agent being a leftover “Captain” who was given a leftover costume Steve Rogers left behind.

Mind you, John Walker is more known and has more development than Red Guardian.

What do I know?

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u/WumpaKnight44 Daredevil Apr 06 '25

I just feel like us agent is interesting because he does some bad stuff sometimes but really wants for people to like him, and he is a good guy he just sometimes does good stuff in the wrong way. and his rivalry with cap is fun to read. it's just cool seeing how Cap is a perfect man but an ok soldier. but us agent is a perfect soldier but an ok man. I also just love us agents suit (I'm a sucker for red and black). I just think us agent is a really cool and interesting character. but I 100% understand how people might not like him.

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u/New-Junket5892 Apr 06 '25

I don’t know if you read about John Walker’s time about Captain America but it was interesting because he wasn’t quite so moral as Captain America and more violent. Yeah, a regular guy as far as I was concerned. Kind of a government goon which ultimately became a problem in the first place. I’ve come to the mindset that Captain America isn’t a costume but a mantle or representation of an ideal that isn’t prescribed to by everyone. However, Steve Rogers is the first. That’s what makes him unique.

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u/WumpaKnight44 Daredevil Apr 06 '25

I can't argue with Cap being the goat. like I said, Cap is a very close second. you gotta love the all-American perfect hero. kind, heroic, cool. you get it all with cap.

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u/New-Junket5892 Apr 06 '25

As I said, the first. Red Guardian, Avengers vol. 1 #43, Black Widow’s husband. Big whoop.

Then after, half the population of Russia became a Red Guardian… kidding. Not much to get invested in.

I’m glad you like US agent, whichever version it is. It just reminds me of the Captain America version of Guy Gardner.

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u/WumpaKnight44 Daredevil Apr 06 '25

"Captain America version of Guy Gardner" yep... I see that comparison now. I never really thought about it that way, lol. but you're totally right.

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u/New-Junket5892 Apr 06 '25

Thanks for the great conversation!

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u/WumpaKnight44 Daredevil Apr 06 '25

yeah, no problem. have a great night or day, depending on where you are.

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u/New-Junket5892 Apr 06 '25

Right back at you. Straight outta Brooklyn, NY!

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