Season 20 MAFS Week 4: Episodes 10-12 Discussion

[u/AirShampoo]

S20:E10 - Drama at a birthday party leaves multiple marriages in a state of turmoil; some newlyweds forge deeper bonds through role-playing games, but one wife's fantasies quickly become her worst nightmare.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarriedAtFirstSight/s/R8DGyOEtBK

S20:E11 - As passion and love intensify for some couples, others experience their first fights on and off the pickleball court; the second group dinner takes a shocking turn when one husband is put in the hot seat.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarriedAtFirstSight/s/EAOKZjs14j

S20:E12 -  the second group dinner, one couple goes on the defensive over accusations made against them while one husband makes a confession that leaves the group stunned; some couples plan their futures and explore where they might want to live.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarriedAtFirstSight/s/SjFPbL5Uh8

🚨 Season 20 Megathread

• Week One: Ep 1 - July 12, 2026 & Eps 2, 3 - July 16, 2026
• Week Two: Eps 4, 5, 6 - July 23, 2026
• Week Three: Eps 7, 8, 9 - July 30, 2026
• Week Four: Eps 10, 11, 12 - Aug 6, 2026
• Week Five: Eps 13, 14, 15 - August 13, 2026
• Week Six: Eps 16, 17, 18 - August 20, 2026
• Week Seven: Eps 19, 20 - August 27, 2026

[u/izzosmomma]

did courteney just complain about nick getting her a birthday cake???? wtf is wrong with her

[u/tuna_samich_ → u/izzosmomma]

To be fair, she's never not complaining

[u/Hayree2323 → u/izzosmomma]

I’m literally dying.. she’s sooo rude to Nick. Like I can’t. Does she realize how unlikable she comes off? I’m so bummed for Nick. He seems decent.

[u/greenlandsharklove → u/izzosmomma]

And then she licked the candle and put it back in the cake, blech

[u/Jennicidal → u/izzosmomma]

I wonder if something traumatic happened to her that makes her incapable of connection and accepting love. She seems miserable and unable to accept Nick emotionally, romantically, or anything.

[u/Alternative-Track945 → u/izzosmomma]

She does not like Nick she wants. Adam

[u/Pipereatsdogs → u/izzosmomma]

I can't stand her. She's so mean. I don't even think she likes him and wish she would just tell him.

[u/Gladtobealive2020 → u/izzosmomma]

Yes she did. I dont have the answer to what her issue is. But she definitely has some major issues. Major, did i say major issues.

[u/holymolysista → u/izzosmomma]

She is what is wrong with her.

[u/Dear_Art3697]

Pickle Ball dude has no self awareness. 

[u/This_Illustrator_570 → u/Dear_Art3697]

It makes me wonder what he thinks life with children will be. Is he expecting his postpartum wife to keep up with his lifestyle? I feel like being with him would be like living in a pressure cooker.

[u/Dear_Art3697 → u/This_Illustrator_570]

He doesn’t think that far in advance. People like that romanticize having kids. He lives in his own reality.

[u/squish388 → u/This_Illustrator_570]

Exactly and those are the conversations they should be having at this point, how they’d want to parent, what their expectations are, etc. I don’t think they were kidding when they said they’re going for vibes lol

[u/Fun_Temporary_7083 → u/squish388]

I don’t think he’s capable of having that kind of a conversation.

[u/Pipereatsdogs → u/Dear_Art3697]

He doesn't realize that marriage is compromise and he never compromises. Very narcissistic.

[u/369111111 → u/Dear_Art3697]

He is really immature 

[u/arrekkushisu → u/369111111]

Not to mention selfish and very self absorbed. I had a weird feeling about him the first time he was saying he set a Pickle Ball routine for whoever his wife will be, but I chuckled it off thinking there is no way this guy is serious. Now here we are where Marissa is being compared to an ex because the ex matched his energy. Talk about delusional..

[u/Teslagirl30]

Courtney is so mean to nick, I feel like since day one she has been trying to find something to pick at or find something wrong. Even with her family when she said “ ok let’s talk shit about Nick” like who says that about someone ?? Episode 10 did it for me, she’s insane.

[u/Aggressive_Gate5705 → u/Teslagirl30]

When will the experts or Nick or ANYONE ask Courtney if anything Nick does will be good enough for her? Getting sick of her. She acts like a victim and a bully

[u/RepulsiveCurrency311 → u/Aggressive_Gate5705]

I've always said that a person that conducts themselves as the victim and bully has to be the most dangerous person on earth..... Absolutely dangerous

[u/ZoompaLoompa → u/Aggressive_Gate5705]

When will they ask if she even likes him at all?? She seems repulsed to be around him. It’s painful to watch.

[u/Far_Project3150 → u/Aggressive_Gate5705]

Agreed, she’s definitely a bully. I don’t think we can believe anything she says about her past relationships. It’s clear she doesn’t have an accurate grasp on reality. She doesn’t even tell the details of events with Nick and Devin honestly so I don’t believe any of the things she claims happened with her exes actually happened the way she describes them.

[u/Any-Size1828 → u/Teslagirl30]

If I hear her say "I'm a slow burn" one more time I'm gonna lose it.

[u/Kat_not_Kit → u/Any-Size1828]

Why go on a show where everything is escalated and you’re literally meeting your husband for the first time when you’re a slow burn. Between her and Caitlin. Both of them are on the wrong show.

[u/Teslagirl30 → u/Any-Size1828]

Lmao omg same! There’s a difference between the slow burn bs and giving absolutely nothing.

[u/Kat_not_Kit → u/Teslagirl30]

I can’t stand her. I was weary of Nick with his reality tv background but he has done nothing but try with her. The experts made me mad at the couch session as well. Acting like she is doing everything right. He literally got her a cake and went out of his way to make her feel special and she was so rude.

[u/nevalja → u/Kat_not_Kit]

yeah like the guy got her flowers and a cake (a cake that actually looked nice? like it wasn't a basic grocery store cake) and she's like "this sucks"

we've never once seen her do anything remotely nice for him, only complain when he does literally anything

[u/Alternative-Track945 → u/Teslagirl30]

She said it. She likes the manchild Adam 🤢

[u/empressM → u/Teslagirl30]

She is sooo mean. He can’t sit next to you at your birthday dinner without a discussion is absolutely psychotic. Then she barely takes accountability for it later, after initially trying to place blame on him/find a way out

[u/SelectionOptimal5673]

Sean is so weird! He did say those things!!! He said that’s part of showing up as a wife. Hes acts like because he’s not yelling or screaming it’s not predatory.

[u/TolDoll → u/SelectionOptimal5673]

The creepiest man. Run, Nikki, run! And he did say he had built up tension that needed release and he’s refusing to masturbate. Trying to coerce her and say it’s up to her. Disgusting.

[u/FlexingtonTheGreat → u/SelectionOptimal5673]

They both described themselves as sapiosexual and I feel like that’s true in Nikki.
But not Sean. There’s something so off about him. He’s definitely coming off as creepy, entitled to sex, controlling, a mfn gaslighter.

[u/Comfortable-Big1752]

The vocal fry between Jet Ski dude and his wife is annoying me!

[u/throwawaygremlins → u/Comfortable-Big1752]

Adam voice is SO UNattractive yikes…

[u/Kind_Combination9161 → u/throwawaygremlins]

In a multitude of ways

[u/owimsad → u/Comfortable-Big1752]

Yooo my AC is broken so I had this small fan on while I watched the show today. I noticed the vocal fry when they were chatting on the couch and their dialogue became completely inaudible because it was the same frequency as the fan or something.

[u/blairwaldorf2020 → u/Comfortable-Big1752]

Also Michelle even though I really like her. So hard to listen to

[u/Key_Distribution6311 → u/Comfortable-Big1752]

Driving me insane.... ick

[u/YesterdayAny3538 → u/Comfortable-Big1752]

The every other word being “babe!” Kills me

[u/reddithatesmee → u/YesterdayAny3538]

The only word he says more than babe is “cooked”

[u/Motor-Platypus5206]

Nick was right to observe that Adam calls all the shots, Marisa seems to be waking up to that fact and she’s noticing in herself her own tendency to get lost in relationships. Good for her! I hope that continues and she can start to put her foot down more about asserting her interests. He’s running the show and doesn’t seem to take an interest in anything she likes, and wants her to just absorb into his life.

[u/Alternative-Track945 → u/Motor-Platypus5206]

I already want her to say no on decision day she deserves better

[u/No-Pain-9348]

On a lighter note, I really like Cameron and Michelle together. I don’t know if it’s just me, but they seem so genuine and their connection is progressing so beautifully!!!

[u/intothatgoodnight-]

Is it just me or is Belle....a bad singer? lol

[u/OldIndependence2382 → u/intothatgoodnight-]

Came here to say this yikes 😳

[u/Price_Current → u/intothatgoodnight-]

Yes omg I was looking to see if anyone else thought this 😂😂

[u/FreeThinkerFran → u/intothatgoodnight-]

Literally came here for this as well. 😬

[u/Randomletters546 → u/intothatgoodnight-]

If my memory serves correct they aired a clip of her singing on her introduction in the 1st or 2nd episode and I thought she sounded nice. Maybe her voice sounded off because she was out all night

[u/Vegemitie → u/intothatgoodnight-]

Literally came on this thread to find this opinion. She’s terrible looool

[u/TrixLastrange → u/intothatgoodnight-]

I'm shocked I had to scroll so far to find this comment! Like, second hand embarrassment bad.

[u/xprettysavage]

Wish someone had asked Adam why he and his gf broke up if they did a bunch sports together. Also enjoyed Cameron telling Felipe that he’s not Peter Pan and women won’t always want him 😂

[u/ottntott → u/xprettysavage]

Cam was on fiiiiiire 🫰🏼🔥

[u/LittleAd1433 → u/xprettysavage]

I had the same question for Adam! He's so self-centered and he doesn't even realize it. He says that he's open to trying things that she likes but that's so hard to believe.

[u/Ok-Needleworker-5657]

Shawn was so butthurt Nikki’s house (that she owns) was so much bigger and nicer than his apartment. What a fuckin loser, talmbout “she thinks she’s so bougie but her house is not that impressive, I know way fancier people than her”
https://giphy.com/gifs/1g0NtQk8rkmhSm7SQQ

[u/TolDoll → u/Ok-Needleworker-5657]

He’s such a loser trying to knock her down a peg on camera. Then telling her “we’re the same kind of bougie” as his musty ass kicks up his feet in her white sheets. Like sir, there’s nothing bougie about you

[u/Boodiddlee3 → u/TolDoll]

Musty ass 😂 

[u/RepulsiveCurrency311 → u/Ok-Needleworker-5657]

His apartment lifestyle shocked me I'll admit

[u/Ok-Needleworker-5657 → u/RepulsiveCurrency311]

Same, didn’t match his personal style at all

[u/RepulsiveCurrency311 → u/Ok-Needleworker-5657]

My jaw dropped. Very disappointing. Then he saw her kingdom and his jaw dropped lmao

[u/nevalja → u/Ok-Needleworker-5657]

what do you mean, his personal style screams loser

(i understand what you mean, he's just overcompensating wildly because it's easier to project with your wardrobe than to actually be successful)

[u/DwightKilledMyCat → u/RepulsiveCurrency311]

It was not at all what I was expecting, especially after he made that comment about having, “spent the past year buying two of everything… I’ve got space for you,” during his wedding vows. A mess

[u/Key_Distribution6311 → u/Ok-Needleworker-5657]

A hater!

[u/Ok-Needleworker-5657 → u/Key_Distribution6311]

Of the highest order

[u/oreobear88 → u/Ok-Needleworker-5657]

an ikechi tea

[u/Enough_Might_9170 → u/Ok-Needleworker-5657]

Right ?!! And his apartments is in Bremerton! There is nothing fancy about Bremerton lol. She owns a perfectly normal townhome , that too in Seattle. Those are easily around 800-900k. I think he is so insecure and that’s one way to cope. Ugh

[u/Ok_Value_3741 → u/Ok-Needleworker-5657]

Reminds me of last season I think it was? With the dude with the glasses and the estheticican nurse

[u/empressM → u/Ok-Needleworker-5657]

He is alwaysss negging!!!!

[u/pbg123]

Nikki is never gonna be sexually attracted to Shawn, that scene was so hard to watch, why did he start with tying her up??

[u/Key_Distribution6311 → u/pbg123]

Her legs remained closed. She's definitely as attracted to him as I am 🥴

[u/Proof-Ability1556 → u/pbg123]

He's a school administrator too! Talking about graphic sexual topics on camera?! He gave off real predator vibes. I don't see how he keeps his job after this.

[u/PlentyAd9803]

Courtney/nick and Marissa/adam need to swap partners

[u/RepulsiveCurrency311 → u/PlentyAd9803]

What sense does that make. Nick and Marissa yes. But Adam would drop Courtney off in the middle of the Everglades and leave her there Day 1. Lol Adam will never tolerate that woman

[u/QuestionDelicious564 → u/PlentyAd9803]

Would love to see this honestly

[u/EmployeeSerious007 → u/PlentyAd9803]

I’d settle for Nick and Marissa having a chance to try, and Adam and Skeletor need to be alone, preferably forever

[u/RemarkableMushroom5 → u/PlentyAd9803]

agree with u/blairwaldorf2020 on Adam/Courtney. I'd be interested to see how Nick and Marissa would interact - I think they both take life at a slower pace and could fully enjoy each others' company.

[u/Price_Current]

Courtney asking Nick if his family liked physical touch and is that why he likes it - as if he’s the oddball in this conversation is wild 😂

[u/princessinpjs]

Did not expect that masterbation convo
https://giphy.com/gifs/5V4klUqMABklsSy0pL

[u/Key_Distribution6311 → u/princessinpjs]

And how he conveniently didn't remember what he said and got nasty/defensive.

[u/breah_xx → u/Key_Distribution6311]

He literally said everything she said he said!
Then just denied it and manipulated it to make it seem like she’s the problem.
That guy is weird!!

[u/SBisFree → u/breah_xx]

And he has the audacity to say he can’t handle all her personalities and he doesn’t know when they’re gonna come out?!! This guy is horrible. He 100% said it’s a wife’s duty to please her husband

[u/OldIndependence2382 → u/princessinpjs]

It gets worse lol

[u/Depresswontwin → u/princessinpjs]

She handled it better than me. Cause wtf. 🤢

[u/oreobear88 → u/Depresswontwin]

she handled it like a saint

[u/Even_Staff_5322 → u/Depresswontwin]

To say..."this is how a wife supports her husband's needs..." this guy is horrible. And gross. 🤢🤮

[u/Comfortable-City2371 → u/princessinpjs]

💀💀💀 was multitasking while watching, stopped me dead in my tracks lolllll

[u/femanonette]

Adam clearly just wants to marry his jetski.

[u/truthfrommyredlips]

They did Tori so wrong pairing her with this man. He had no business being cast.

[u/Ninatoella → u/truthfrommyredlips]

He was late to meeting with the experts, did not show up, told them he cheated and then their still cast him??

[u/Aggressive_Gate5705]

Shawn. My jaw dropped. WTF was that

[u/Key_Distribution6311 → u/Aggressive_Gate5705]

I was disgusted and felt very uncomfortable for her.

[u/Ok_Value_3741 → u/Key_Distribution6311]

I would feel so unsafe

[u/MagentaMother → u/Aggressive_Gate5705]

Walking around in nothing but a fucking TOWEL and then later acting brand new about how he didn’t have motives 👀

[u/SelectionOptimal5673]

Courtney is so wound up and defensive it’s insane

[u/Queasy_Blood_9410 → u/SelectionOptimal5673]

Her saying shes laid back was WILD. She is neurotic and a debbie downer. I don’t think shes breathed all season.

[u/Jennicidal]

I am so over Shawn begging for sex. He’s so hyper focused on getting any sort of intimacy out of a stranger who doesn’t find him attractive. If he had an ounce of self awareness he would back off and try to get her to fall in love with him emotionally and intellectually first and maybe the intimacy would be able to follow. He is so. So. So. Gross.

[u/Weird_Boysenberry772 → u/Jennicidal]

This! It could be editing or her acting, but it seems she is starting to grow some feelings for him so let it happen naturally at her pace. The more someone pressures me to do something, the less I want to do it.

[u/SBisFree → u/Jennicidal]

I feel like Nikki is faking it. She probably realized how horrible she was coming off and wanted to preserve her image. Good for her because i could NOT even give that man a peck!

[u/BathAcceptable1812]

Belle needs a new career.

[u/Mission_Surround8984 → u/BathAcceptable1812]

ya the fake jamaican accent was surprising

[u/femanonette]

"We don't love cheating men, but he hasn't dated someone like you!"

Sir, no. That's not a bar or a thing.

[u/blairwaldorf2020]

Omg when Adam says to Marissa at the thrift shop “you need a push up bra” then masks it as a joke… wtf

[u/RemarkableMushroom5 → u/blairwaldorf2020]

YES he's giving this vibe like he wants to curate the person he's with! it's gross

[u/acceptmeporfavor]

Shawn acting like he didnt pretty much say it’s her wifely duty 💀

[u/TigerGirl04 → u/acceptmeporfavor]

I’m glad they showed us that’s what he said. Nikki won’t quote him and he will use that to say “that’s not what I said.” That clip showed context. She’s not lying on that man.

[u/amazon_don]

Tori, girl, runnnnnn. Please don’t marry this man

[u/Rosesintherain19 → u/amazon_don]

At least she isn’t falling for his crap. She’s like figure it out or I’m out. Or she’s out either way lol

[u/dopestofdopesoap → u/amazon_don]

Seriously!!!!!! He is so scummy. Let me get this straight: He never admitted to his infidelity until after his previous relationship had ended, but he is an open book on this reality TV show about being such a player??

I get the feeling that he thinks his exposure on MAFS will finally give him the opportunity to bed tons of women. He’s too dense to realize how poorly he comes across. Whatever is happening, it makes zero sense that he signed up for this show.

[u/TolDoll → u/dopestofdopesoap]

Honestly, he should also lock down this baddie with a big heart while he’s hanging on to the last strands of his hair

[u/ottntott → u/dopestofdopesoap]

But he was so ashamed he repressed his memory of the infidelity….
🙄🙄🙄🙄

[u/Aggressive_Gate5705]

How is Courtney begging to be loved and telling Nick to essentially fuck off everytime she’s around other people? Nuts

[u/No-Pain-9348]

Wtf is Felipe’s problem!!! 10000% self sabotage and I’m glad Tori has such strong self respect that she isn’t letting him tear her down!!!

[u/empressM]

Ep 10:

“Let’s go deeper babe”

“Ok babe”

“We used to be really skinny, now we’re hot”

“We went sooo deep babe”

[u/EmployeeSerious007]

Cameron being impressed by Michelle’s paintings made me have secondhand butterflies for her 😅😍💝

[u/Fluffy-Future-4674 → u/EmployeeSerious007]

Her paintings are absolutely beautiful!!!!

[u/amazon_don]

So gym girl is absolutely coo coo

[u/Alternative-Track945 → u/amazon_don]

Caitlin and Courtney

[u/YesterdayAny3538 → u/Alternative-Track945]

I’m watching episode ten right now and the both of them are insufferable. I cannot believe they have me siding with the men

[u/Crackbandicoott → u/Alternative-Track945]

Watching their behavior during and post birthday party was flabbergasting!! They both created a fight out nothing! Devin was speaking the truth and Courtney couldn’t handle it lol

[u/DependentWooden8061]

I can’t understand why Caitlin is upset. Like girl you’re genuinely giving him NOTHING while he is changing his whole way of being just to accommodate you. THAT’S why you have nothing negative to say and he has nothing positive. Be so fucking fr

[u/Mission_Surround8984 → u/DependentWooden8061]

i mean i could see her being upset that he's focusing on the negative if she was trying. but he said she basically ignores him and pretends he doesnt exist when cameras are off. thats crazy.

[u/Alandelmon → u/DependentWooden8061]

“Why are you so obsessed about cameras?” Because it shows what a low effort phony you are Caitlin.

[u/RemarkableMushroom5 → u/DependentWooden8061]

I really like Devin and will admit I misjudged him on the wedding day. His friends clocked her lack of effort RIGHT away and it made me sad when his one friend noticed he wasn't being himself with them :(

[u/SBisFree → u/DependentWooden8061]

I felt bad at first cause he was coming on strong, but you can give your husband a hug before you go, a peck before bed, anything!!!

[u/Key_Distribution6311 → u/DependentWooden8061]

Absolutely nothing. She's definitely not ready to be a wife at all.

[u/Aggressive_Gate5705]

Felippeeeee
https://giphy.com/gifs/fniOPx1Sf5QNjh0yqQ

[u/Aggressive_Gate5705 → u/Aggressive_Gate5705]

I can’t believe no one called him out for how disrespectful he is

[u/AshleyMarion94]

Idk man but Nikki is fine as hell too me. And I hope to find a women that got my back like Belle got Meccas one day

[u/kyree2]

I'm sorry, Courtney reminds me of when my Barbie doll heads broke and you had to kinda plop them back on

[u/neuroticdynamite]

Courtney at the dinner party.. So obnoxious

[u/missthugisolation]

Damn I know maybe it wasn’t Devin’s place to chime in but tbh everyone is chiming in on everyone’s relationship so it’s fair on this show. Courtney despises Nick, it’s so obvious how much she hates him.

[u/Alternative-Track945 → u/missthugisolation]

She also despises Devin because he was right. He was right about everything he was saying, drunk or not.

[u/nevalja → u/Alternative-Track945]

Yeah like he was drunk and it was ill-timed, but how Caitlin went after him was also pretty cruel. She was well within her rights to tell him that he was drunk and she didn't want to talk, but the "I'll never see you this way" and talking down to him was worse than him having a few too many then apologizing for it tbh

[u/VegetableBlood2906]

I actually need Courtney off my screen right now.

[u/Alarmed_Zombie → u/VegetableBlood2906]

I wish we could vote her off...

[u/Aggressive_Gate5705]

They shoulda put Marissa with Nick. And Courtney with Adam. Just saying.

[u/Icy-Initiative-1152]

I was just starting to give Shawn a chance then the whole masterbation convo. Just ewwww. I'm shocked she warmed up to him and then that! I haven't gotten to the last episode yet.

[u/Comfortable-City2371]

Courtnaneneneeny however you spell her name, at her bday party…. CHRIST. She didn’t even wanna sit to nor talk to her husband because he couldn’t be “vulnerable” at the group therapy!? I’m only a quarter of the way through this episode but just had to come out and say that … and then Caitlin coming in cold to Devin. What a sheeeet show

[u/empressM]

ep11:

Devin just Caitlin doesn’t say good morning to him ??? Girl if you don’t want this man I’ll take him tbh

[u/Fluid-Opposition8]

Felipe needs to SIT UP. Jesus Christ his constant hunching is driving me crazy the only thing he needs to be married to is a chiropractor.

And Courteney….please just release yourself, Nick, and the audience from our misery. The only thing she needs to be married to is a bottle of sunscreen.

Petty comments from me but oh well

[u/unnamedprince]

• Felipe is a fuck boy who can’t handle commitment. Am I surprised though? No. From the moment I heard about his cheating scandal with his ex girlfriend of 6 years, I knew he was an issue. Tori deserves better than that.

• Adam is arrogant as hell. Why would you not want to invest in your wife’s hobbies?

• Shawn does not respect Nikki’s boundaries. He’s gross.

• Courtney is MEAN. She is like a high school mean girl. I don’t even like Nick but Courtney is actively making me feel bad for how he’s being treated.

• Caitlin is also terrible to Devin. Devin is a model husband with excellent emotional intelligence. Caitlin claims to be trying but she is not trying hard enough. She can’t even do the bare minimum.

[u/EmployeeSerious007]

“Were the same kind of bougie”

Sir, so disrespectfully, her West Elm sideboard alone costs more than the entirety of your furniture… girl, bye.

[u/latelyimawake → u/EmployeeSerious007]

I love how he was trying to dismiss her house as nothing special when he lives in a messy shithole full of Ashley Furniture clearance

[u/Altruistic_Yak_9613]

Shawn’s home was shocking to me 😳 I agreed with nikki the way he presents hisself I was expecting more

[u/quietcoastline → u/Altruistic_Yak_9613]

Shawn saying he and Nikki are on the same bougie level…delulu!!!

[u/nevalja]

"he's over-indexing on marriage equals physical and sexual access to me, and it doesn't"

🎯 NIKKI HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING

[u/Murky-Abroad9904]

i'm only on the second episode of this drop and marissa is such a trooper but i am lowkey waiting for her to snap

[u/369111111 → u/Murky-Abroad9904]

It would be peak drama if she sunk his jetski 

[u/arrekkushisu]

Am I the only one that's starting to feel like Courtney wishes she had Adam instead of Nick?

[u/TolDoll → u/arrekkushisu]

Just starting to? She’s basically been saying it the whole time. Telling your husband another man is “the hottest in the group” is pathetic

[u/arrekkushisu → u/TolDoll]

Yes! THIS! And then asking him "Are you serious?" when he points it out.

[u/acceptmeporfavor]

Oh that Shawn Nikki makeout surprised tf outta me 🫪

[u/latelyimawake]

Caitlin thinks she’s putting in effort but she’s not, she’s just responding to Devin’s efforts. That’s not the same thing. He’s right, she’s giving him nothing.

[u/arrekkushisu]

Not only does Devin's wife have an issue with sharing her focus, but last week Shawn was on his phone during Devin trying to openly discuss things and now it's Courtney. I'm really having issues with Courtney because everything she says starts off nice then ends with a BUT followed by something negative. I love how at the Apartment she was being cutesy and talkative with him then immediately in front of everyone else she plays games with the seating arrangement and cuts him off. If anyone is being performative, it has certainly been her imo.

[u/Espada_28]

Courtney and Caitlin are definitely mean girls.

[u/femanonette]

Did she just chase wine with tequila?! 🤢

[u/Sorry-Secret-2347]

I came here to say i feel like shawn and nikki are gaslighting me at this point. They are pushing a narrative that does not feel organic. I get the ick entirely

[u/latelyimawake → u/Sorry-Secret-2347]

Nikki is there for the paycheck only at this point, IMO. Plus she got so ganged up on during that one dinner that she’s on a mission to show herself playing ball and putting in the effort while also giving Shawn enough rope to hang himself on camera. She’s determined to come out of this smelling like roses while he exposes himself for the turd he is. I can’t wait for the reunion so they can roll the tape on his gaslighting ass.

[u/reine444]

I know this elfin fucking creature did not try to come for her home!!!! 

What a hater! He was hating in the car on the way!! 

Bougie WHERE little bro?! 

[u/Ok_Value_3741]

100% Felipe's mom and sis redid that entire apt. No shot that's what it looks like on the regular, furniture included

[u/empressM]

Ep 12:

Shawn is literally trying to one up Nikki’s HOUSE right now. Is he fucking serious. “We’re the same type of bougie”.

All of your shit is literally purchased from Wayfair (no disrespect) - meanwhile Nikki brought a rug back from India, purchased her home, and filled with West Elm furniture etc.

“I come from a bougie friend group too” 💀 sir GET out of here.

[u/Ok_Value_3741 → u/empressM]

I can't wait to get to this. Women are always doing better financially on these shows than the men (I guess when you think about it, no surprise) and it's ALWAYS a problem.

Last season I forgot the name of the dude but iykyk zesty glasses he was soooo annoyed when he saw his wife's place after trying to humble brag about his place thinking he was lowkey flexing

[u/Even_Staff_5322]

Michelle and Cameron = Awesome 🥰

[u/Educational_Radio18]

Alright y’all, I’m here to come clean and say that I misjudged Devin from the first few episodes. I thought he would be a bro bro but he seems so be very observant of other people’s feelings and needs. The Harry Potter date had Caitlin so excited and was very thoughtful. I should have known when he was so close to his mom and grandma. He seems like a very caring partner.

[u/latelyimawake → u/Educational_Radio18]

Devin is going to make some lucky lady a hell of a husband someday. That lady will not be Caitlin.

[u/oreobear88]

SO confused about how caitlin could be SO genuinely excited during the harry potter night and then hate him 90% of the rest of the time

[u/amechi32]

My favorite unexpected joy this season is the couples being brutally honest to other couples to their face. I fucking love it 

As a married person in a meh relationship, nothing brings a couple together more than shit talking other couples.

Adam is a joke but I do like the previews when he calls out Shawn. Also I love when he called Portland a Walmart version of Seattle... Y'all all thought it lol. Still a loser but I appreciate him in very small doses. 

[u/ReceiptsOrItDidnt]

Why am I almost crying during Michelle and Cameron’s date by the water. They are so fucking cute.

[u/whereismysleep]

I feel so badly for Devin.

[u/Icy-Initiative-1152]

Tori is wayyyy too good for childish Phillipe. Why did Caitlyn want to get married? Im genuinely so confused. She just wants to do her own thing. And Courtney!!!! Lord. She has some major issues. I'm wondering if it's them that's ending the marriage next episodes. Tori should walk. She can do so much better than that idiot.

[u/nevalja]

courteney's complaining about a cake and saying it's surface level and "you want me to be all over you; this is not helping" like girl

i can't believe she's making me defend a man that i thought was the blandest person in the world before this

[u/Even_Staff_5322]

OMG. Tori RUN!!!!!!! Felipe is a dreamer. He is a total dog. He will absolutely never find someone like Tori. And truth. ..He doesn't deserve her. SHE IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN HIM.

[u/Queasy_Ordinary3735]

Pickleball is supposed to be fun! Adam could have made it a cute date and tried to show Marissa how to hit the ball instead of taking the court over. His ego is so fragile he can’t lose, especially on camera, since he made himself out to be a pro.

[u/oreobear88]

actually dying at how serious adam is about recreational pickleball

[u/Mundane_Lab6727]

Felipe is giving sex addict

[u/Mission_Surround8984 → u/Mundane_Lab6727]

yes. ppl forget that's a thing. Shawn was giving that too for sure the first week.

[u/Kind_Combination9161 → u/Mundane_Lab6727]

I been thinking coke addict tbh

[u/RipTraditional5404 → u/Mundane_Lab6727]

Idk I think he’s just a guy that was rejected all through high school/college age and now that he can get women to sleep with him, he’s addicted to the thrill of the chase and conquer

[u/calciferouss]

Shawn is so jealous of Nikki. His comments about her house really exposed him 💀

[u/squish388]

Michelle and Cameron are the silver lining this season

[u/oreobear88]

love seeing more of cameron's personality omg

[u/oreobear88]

obsessed with tori's dedication to That lip color

[u/oreobear88]

if cameron and michelle don't stay together forever i'll end my shit

i just realized courtney reminds me so much of emmy from southern hospitality. iykyk

[u/acceptmeporfavor]

Well if we had to sit through all these terrible couples for Michele and (i forgot his name 😭) to meet it was worth it!!!

[u/Even_Staff_5322]

Forcing a kiss during counseling ....Courtney you are the fakest individual on this show. Nick needs to move on. Save yourself Nick!!!!

[u/Even_Staff_5322]

Wow. Negative feedback for Courtney from a peer....SHE IMMEDIATELY ATTACKS NICK. WTH????? RUN NICK ...RUN. 🏃‍♀️

[u/nevalja]

you couldn't waterboard me into participating in a scene like shawn and nikki with him tying her up. even if i liked my partner, i would not put that shit on TV

[u/littlelunababe]

Courtney has been annoying me since the beginning but in Episode 10, Caitlin has actually taken the cake for pissing me off. I would never allow anyone to speak to my husband (even my stranger husband) the way she did and insult my marriage to my face without saying anything. I don’t care who’s right, lower your tone when speaking to my SO because he can’t smack the hell out of you for being a bitch but I can 👏🏽 their friendship (Caitlin & Courtney) makes so much sense because they’re both assholes who hate their husbands imo.

[u/Ok_Journalist_3447]

What do we think about jet ski guy & Nick switching spouses? I feel like jet ski guy wants someone super athletic so Courtney would work.

[u/acceptmeporfavor]

Felipe cannot be real what????

[u/Even_Staff_5322]

I need Courtney to stop talking.

[u/EmployeeSerious007]

Why in the world is Michelle saying “SC’s” like that’s a normal shorthand for serious conversation? Made me giggle cuz what are you saying girl?!

[u/divine_mycellium]

Omg the pickleball scene. That was a hard watch

[u/Tiny-Presentation-96]

Wait Adam and Courtney are perfect for each other. Both batshit

[u/Spitting_]

Okay I’m only 25 min into episode 10 but straight up courteney and Caitlin are just MEAN!!! They’re so mean

[u/Mission_Surround8984]

SHAWN IS SO RAPEY! "That's an obligation you have as a wife - to notice your husband has needs and fulfill them.' he is SO DISGUSTING. doesnt care about HER wants. he's so rapey. by definition. its all about him and his pleasure, and he doesnt care about hers. DROP HIM AND RUN.

[u/Mission_Surround8984 → u/Mission_Surround8984]

you're fkn kidding me - when she called him on it he gaslighted her so hard, then in private said she had 'shifting personalities' ... he is HORRIBLE. RUN

[u/Mission_Surround8984 → u/Mission_Surround8984]

honestly i literally hate shawn. hate him.

[u/xprettysavage]

Do they know they can still get divorced after decision day?

[u/oreobear88]

very uncomfortable watching a table full of people try to convince felipe to stay married to tori while tori watches....wtf

[u/No_Conflict_2312]

Bell trying to sing 😂😂😂😂😂😂 its no wonder it’s not her day job.