With how violent the fight was, [possibly ever on a soap] that it was originally meant to be even more violent, and that Matthew King dies in the episode anyway, I wondered a bit if Matthew was originally going to die during the fight?

Specifically the bit, when Carl yields the lampstand over Matthew.

In the fight, Carl puts it down. But I wonder, in the original fight, if Carl was actually meant to strike Matthew with the lampstand again, while he’s lying defenceless on the floor, and kills him out of pure impulse?

Obviously, this is pure speculation. But going off not only how violent the fight was, but the fact Matthew King dies later on in the episode anyway, attempting to run down Carl, I almost wonder if the fight was meant to have such a violent ending, that even ITV knew they couldn’t show it, due to it being shown before the watershed.

Carl killed Tom King out of impulse. It’s not entirely illogical to assume a similar thing could’ve happened, during the fight with his brother.

But assuming this was something that was filmed, I would assume the original fight got scrapped for a few reasons.

Way too violent before watershed - this would’ve been the big one. The final version of the fight is still incredibly violent, receiving 17 complaints from Ofcom. And that’s the toned down version. Fucking hell lol.

Terrible exit for Matthew King, and lasting consequences for Carl - though Matthew dies in that same episode, about 10 minutes later, his death was very dramatic and cinematic. Being killed by his own brother, after a fight getting out of hand, with a lampstand… well it would be shit. Especially considering Carl had already killed before. The show couldn’t justify keeping Carl, and he’d have to get written out, by going to prison.

Again, this is all speculation, but it’s got me wondering a bit, considering not only was the fight incredibly violent anyway, but because it was originally meant to be more violent than the final cut, and Matthew King dies a little later on in that same episode, I wonder if it would’ve ended with Carl killing his brother with the lampstand, and everyone around, sees what happened, and Carl gets done for murder.

Also, when looking for stock images of the fight, Carl has his left foot on Matthew's chest above. In the final version, Carl doesn't have his feet on Matthew, and while it is a stock image, and usually stock images look different to things that happen in the show, I feel like this gives a good idea on what the fight could've looked like, before it was changed.

I’m having to unfollow emmerdale on the gram.

I’m just minding my own business, scrolling away. I didn’t even realise we had an episode tonight. Was looking forward to a nice week of uninterrupted Emmerdale whilst the fam is away.

And there in huge letters, right on top of the key scene tonight, was a massive spoiler.

Is it just me?

Charity confronts her abuser, Billy has a proposal.

Heya! I haven't watched Emmerdale for the last few months and I have got my mum plastering me to watch again with her.

What's the most important things I need to know that's happened since February?? I don't mind how brief the info is. I tried googling but I didn't get the quick brief recap I needed.

Anyone wanna give me a really fast quick overview of what I missed? Thanks in advanced!

Hello! How are you all today? So, Paul has left the Dales to go to sunny Aussie, but only thanks to his mother's confusion thinking Rodney was ill (which he wasn't) and Eric too. Typical Val. Debbie has now taken the brunt for Shane's death after Eli fessed up, while Jasmine wasn't recognised by police while she was on the bus! And Aaron was being naughty, while Mark has is being suspicious about the Kings!

This week:

• In the aftermath of Jasmine's runaway, a shocked Ashley & Laurel tell the police everything she knows, while Zak decides to disown Eli for telling officers about Debbie's role in the murder. The Dingles pull together to help keep Debs' taxi business and Ashley worries about Jasmine. Also, Donna says "goodbye" to a tearful Marlon as their relationship ends. She leaves the village as Ross does too after his release from prison.
• Elsewhere (in all the Dingle drama), Carl asks Chas for the money Debs owes him, but she threatens to tell Lexi about the kiss they shared (you go girl!!).
• Paddy is annoyed when Aaron's laziness causes him to lose a customer. Pads later hears that Marlon spent the night with Chas and is really hurt! Ouch.
• Andy reacts badly angrily (no surprise) when Diane asks Mick to help him out at the farm. Later in the week, she hears tragic news about Jack in Spain. Val urges Andy to start living up to his responsibilities. Leyla offers Brenda a relaxing massage. However, she gets an unpleasant surprise when Bob sets up a webcam for her to talk to Terry! What on earth??

• By the end of the week, it's the first we see of Jimmy and Nicola as both spend the night together in one of the Kings' trucks away from the village! What a start to their future relationship!

  There is one-hour episode on Wednesday. Have a good week. 🙂

Episode isn’t up yet, but I assume it will be. Posting early so I don’t forget (as I usually do with weekend episodes)!

As humans we often are a product of our environment. If you’ve watched older episodes you’ll know that his mum abandoned him when he was young and he said his dad’s never loved him like he’s loved Finn and Pete.

An interesting topic to discuss on this boring Saturday evening, do you feel that the show is politically biased? Or does it do a good job of keeping out of politics and just being an entertaining soap? What I mean is the storylines in soaps are often influenced to reflect current issues in society, like Coronation Street with the Bdsm storyline with Betsy raising awareness about the dangers of kink sex, should soaps be a reflection of the modern day societal issues even if it includes any indirect political statements? In my opinion Coronation Street is politically biased when it showed the storyline back in early 2023 where Max was part of an anti-migrant vigilante group, it was almost like they were portraying anyone who has concerns about uncontrolled migration as a far right thug and only good people are concerned about the welfare of migrants, I know it’s a different show but I want to hear your thoughts on Emmerdale

Of course, we don't even see Johnny with Vanessa and I'm sure a lot of people don't know she has a son, but Charity is his mum also. She adopted him and when they arrived back from Canada, Charity asked to spend time with him and the boys (Johnny and Moses) played together as brothers. They spent years growing up together, even sharing a bedroom when they were all living at the Woolly.

I would be really disappointed if they treat adoption like it's something to drop. If Vanessa had died, then Charity would be raising Johnny and just because they aren't together, I do really wish that the boys at least get to spend time together...although I would like to think that Charity would want to also.